The $450 "Mac mini' You Wish Apple Sold

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The $800 Apple Mac mini is a bit underwhelming, but this hackintosh isn't!
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i5 Intel NUC (NUC8i5BEK) - geni.us/Sqbfyp
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G.Skill 8GB DDR4 RAM PC4-19200 - geni.us/KN2q
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Upgrade to Samsung 970 Evo - geni.us/zZdZCDr
BenQ 4K HDR FreeSync Monitor - geni.us/D3b9d0F
Das 4 Ultimate Keyboard - geni.us/HbOIALU
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Here at Snazzy Labs, we found the Apple Mac Mini 2018 pretty disappointing. The CPU had poor thermal paste application, experienced thermal throttling, and was pretty bad value with just 128GB of storage. For less than $500, we built a hackintosh using an 8th gen Intel NUC. It's smaller, faster, cooler, and cheaper than the Mac mini and it runs macOS Mojave like a champ. What more could you ask for?
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@robertsteel3563 5 лет назад

Announcer: The New Mac mini has 8GB memory, 3.6GHz quad core- Concerned Audience Member: i3? Announcer: and 128GB SSD Normal Audience Member: *coughs* Concerned Audience Member: BOO >:( Announcer: and it starts at $799 Normal Audience Member: *Claps*

@snazzy 5 лет назад

Thank you for providing closed captioning.

@robertsteel3563 5 лет назад

@@snazzy your welcome xD

@johntamch 5 лет назад

is this real or edited by Quinn? heard no such things in all other yt videos.

@jordansean18 5 лет назад

Haha, had to go check the other recording of the keynote. Great diagetic audio dubbing ^_^

@robertsteel3563 5 лет назад

@@jordansean18 thanx (i thought the person coughing would like his dialogue to be in the cc too xD

@falcongunner33 5 лет назад

"the downside is a pretty major power brick" Xbox One: "hold my beer"

@snazzy 5 лет назад

I tried to pick one up once and I stress-fractured my spine.

@azimalif266 5 лет назад

@@snazzy then you need to exercise more.😀

@justincowgill8875 5 лет назад

@Azim Alif He can’t exercise until he recovers from fracturing his spine.

@meloD30 5 лет назад

@@justincowgill8875 He just needs to hang in a makeshift sling thingy for a bit, then he'll be fit enough to rescue Gotham.

@SpicyMcMeatballs 5 лет назад

😂😂😂😂

@TechnoTrend0 5 лет назад

who did the "booo" in the crowd im crying lmfao

@skateozzy 5 лет назад

TechnoTrend he edited it in.

@colby_ybloc 5 лет назад

Kali Southpaw that was Steve Jobs lol

@alittlehair3056 5 лет назад

@Yukki64_ 4 года назад

Everyone did

@diegoamorim7924 4 года назад

TechnoTrend unfortunately that didn’t actually happen

@WednesdayMan 5 лет назад

"and has a headphone jack" I'll take your entire stock!

@fisheyebrick1670 5 лет назад

I see what you did there

@jamesgames5698 5 лет назад

@@fisheyebrick1670 .

@rwhoosh1122 5 лет назад

TheKHfan358over3d The Mac mini ale has one

@memoryfoam2285 5 лет назад

FlexPods

@abcdabcd-yd7ps 4 года назад

Put usb converter Jack and microphone

@skirwan78 5 лет назад

That is one of the funniest "booooos" I've ever heard. It's like there was a Cow masquerading as a developer/journalist

@robertidonotsharemyfullnam496 5 лет назад

Mac mini used to be a Mac for 500 Bucks.. thats what it still should be. Thats how apple should increase OS market-share.

@christopherjames9843 5 лет назад

Apple isn't interested in "market share". They are interested in margins.

@colby_ybloc 5 лет назад

Value of money was also significantly higher back then. Prices haven't changed much when you factor that in

@pabslondon 4 года назад

@@christopherjames9843 They are more interested in selling £1400 phones that cost £400 to make

@MarcosElMalo2 4 года назад

pabslondon Its almost as if you wrote the same thing he did, but in such a way as to appear to be disagreement. The spirit of RU-vid is with you.

@SchwertKruemel 4 года назад

@@pabslondon at least they treat their $1400 phone like a $1400 phone and dont stop the update support within 1 or 2 years

@stevesmacfix 5 лет назад

I consider myself a Mac fan, especially the older stuff, and I just wanted to let you know, I do appreciate your series. I don’t see many people still doing these types of videos. You gotta be a die hard to appreciate this stuff and man, it’s pretty cool to watch.

@dylanc2806 5 лет назад

lmao that guy in the background "i3..????"

@bryckkk 5 лет назад

"Boooo"

@literallyme9740 4 года назад

Dylan C he sounds like Cr1TiKaL

@Conceptcreator 5 лет назад

man that intro haha

@quentondaniels8536 5 лет назад

Been waiting on this build... very nice! 👍🏻

@bigcheesepuff1 5 лет назад

yea awesome - great little media center machine, but I would have preferred a video on the Hades Canyon with top end SSD & faster memory, - that would be more comparable to a 6 core mini cost wise, - I think the mini would stand a better chance then?

@NonsensicalSpudz 5 лет назад

thing is with the power brick, it doesn't matter, because its not a laptop, its a permanent situation, it is where you leave it

@joaovitorsilvagohl682 5 лет назад

and if it breaks you can buy another or have one for transport

@NonsensicalSpudz 5 лет назад

@CharmingHomer I'd agree, except it uses a generic power lead. same as you'd find on an xbox and ps4 for example

@NonsensicalSpudz 5 лет назад

@@AlfaRomeoQ whats that got to do with the mac mini?

@volundrfrey896 4 года назад

As long as the cable between the brick and the device is long enough to get it to a good place to hide it.

@austinalmanza7394 5 лет назад

PLEASE make a video on how to install the software lol

@justjadethings9630 4 года назад

He'll probably get taken down for it. Not unlike Nintendo, Apple also has ninjas

@KentoNishi 5 лет назад

When a $450 build is smaller and better than the original :D

@YasinHasan 5 лет назад

thats apple for u

@VolkerHett 5 лет назад

Just one problem, you have to have a Mac to get Mac OS :D

@paulgeorge3535 5 лет назад

@@VolkerHett ummm... no, you don't

@YasinHasan 5 лет назад

@@VolkerHett not really ... u can create virtual machine running macOS inside windows

@Malc180s 5 лет назад

@@paulgeorge3535 Well it's illegal otherwise.

@sgclef 4 года назад

I’m trying so hard to figure out why ANYONE would dislike any of your videos. You always have wonderful, witty, insightful and accurate information presented in a lighthearted way that is inviting for noobs and gritty enough for pros. Haters gonna hate I guess. I love your channel. Love it.

@AnwarGatto 5 лет назад

Apple: this is the best small computer that can run Mac Snazzy: hold my beer

@zach3714 5 лет назад

Did you know that Austin Evans copied your video for Adsense money because he saw the success of this video? ePiC...

@TexasCat99 5 лет назад

Even in the old Amiga days, running Mac emulator (actual Mac OS) was faster than a real Mac.

@mickeyd9369 4 года назад

Wow, you're old. Do you remember the MacOS-compatibles? (I'm old too) PowerComputing regularly beat the pants off of Apple with the same hardware. So much so they bought the company, brain trust included.

@ethanturner2354 5 лет назад

Who would like a step-by-step guide on how to build this computer?!

@alanhill5337 5 лет назад

yes please! where to get?

@agustineaustin7855 5 лет назад

I wanna know dis too

@QuickQuips 5 лет назад

1. Get nuc 2. Open nuc 3. Add ram and m2 4. Close nuc 5. Plug in nuc The install of Mac should be on tonymacx86 forums.

@DamienDae 5 лет назад

@@QuickQuips Building the NUC is actually the easy part. I decided to buy the same NUC to turn it into a Hackintosh. I am not quite there yet: it's not as easy as Quinn tells us in the video; it's a steep learning curve for me.

@allantinker6838 5 лет назад

@@DamienDae Im guessing you figured it out, but I did a vanilla install. I dont recommend. However, you can go to hackintosh zone and get their mojave installer. It will work, but you will be missing a few kexts, like the audio.. But if you run it through a dock, or some sort of USB adaptor, the driver for it will drive audio and graphics. Just make sure it has a mac driver available.

@popfugl 5 лет назад

Why is this not called the MacNUCcet??

@vdochev 5 лет назад

Because it's NUClear!

@squaller9254 5 лет назад

Nucintosh

@patrickobaldo883 5 лет назад

iNUC

@tomf3150 5 лет назад

MacNu(c/k)er ?

@scheffman 5 лет назад

MACadamiaNUK

@LoganT547 5 лет назад

I have a 2011 Mac Mini and it honestly works really well! I don't need the latest and greatest.

@shophet125 4 года назад

2:32 the other advantage is when the power supply finally fails you just replace it without having to disassemble the pc to get to it.

@jamescarter3196 4 года назад

I gotta admit, I've been on laptops and an un-upgradeable Mac Mini for years now and I'm looking at towers again for reasons like what you're saying.

@jpdemer5 4 года назад

Power supplies are always failing - but I've never seen a brick fail. Is a puzzlement.

@RLfilmz 5 лет назад

I was considering a mac mini to be my plex server, and here you are telling me I can do it with a NUC. Guess we're adding another hackintosh to the family!

@mirankamal5431 5 лет назад

you just saved me 352$, I was planning to buy the mac mini just for the OS

@Seatux 5 лет назад

The older 2012 is plenty fine and way more upgradeable than the new one. Makes it easy to make Hackintoshes off from.

@zwerker 5 лет назад

Yep, the OS is the only thing Apple has going for it... but boy is it sweet. Been hooked ever since 1995.

@karanvora2674 5 лет назад

Buy the hades canyon nuv if you want better gpu performance without buying an external gpu

@BoyarsMedia 5 лет назад

Karan Vora great advise! I just wish there was a socketed cpu with Iris because I really like the Mini STX platform

@jonathanhatting2157 5 лет назад

Zwerker Been hooked since 2014. Never going back.

@SkyhawksAu 4 года назад

Would love to see an updated video on a newer gen NUC build.

@shaunbowen 5 лет назад

Great video. I would like to have seen another option for the same price as the Mac Mini, to see what kind of improvement you could get.

@RatedRGameGuy 5 лет назад

3:12 “That’s what he said” lmao

@allend12354 5 лет назад

Oh Quinn... you make my Mac mini feel so good.

@TheSkytherMod 5 лет назад

Mac micro ;)

@mistercapitale 4 года назад

Hello, I just watched this video and was wondering if we could get a update to this video? This is fascinating.

@JonnyInfinite 5 лет назад

When they announced a new Mac Mini, I imagined something along the lines of Apple TV size. Your build is much more what they should have gone with, and it should have been $599.

@yoisus9004 4 года назад

Great video! But it would’ve been nice if there was an extra m.2 slot to dual boot Windows. (Or maybe add a compatible wifi card)

@tryitout-701 4 года назад

nuc7i7dhne this model has the option for a second m2

@nu1113 5 лет назад

This is impressive! But what build would you reccomend now, the hack mini with the streacom case or this one? I think price-to-performance ratio of the processor is better on the streacom build, but the nuc provides such an easy and cutting-edge experience! I will think aubout it a bit more and than probably build one of them for myself. Thank you so much, your videos are always so helpful!

@Mcstikman 5 лет назад

I literally built this same nuc last week, same i5 model( got it for 299 during B&H BF sale) , same single 8gb G. Skill ram but I got a 250gb hp ex 900 for 39.99 on Newegg!!!. I absolutely love it ☺️

@DavidBakhash 5 лет назад

THANK YOU for not pronouncing "asterisk" as "astrix!!!" Literally the first RU-vidr I've seen do that lol

@WarhavenSC 5 лет назад

You ax, and you shall receive!

@topkek7003 5 лет назад

Nerd Musk im so mad

@MarcosElMalo2 4 года назад

It was his ass to risk.

@IntoTheOrdinary 5 лет назад

I thoroughly enjoyed this video. First time I came across something from your channel. Hopelessly banging my head against a ceiling when it comes to form factors, performance and Apple. Love the ecosystem, hate the hardware. Where's my Mac Micro i9 128Gb power brick, Apple?! Anyway; great video - thanks!

@Jack-ng3wr 5 лет назад

When apple released the new Mac Mini, I was impressed because at least they used a desktop CPU

@ericsuh620 5 лет назад

True for the most part but not exactly. The B series CPU is kind of in between sort. For example 8700B is 65W rather than 95W

@azimalif266 5 лет назад

Which thermal throttles like crazy. So what's the point?

@ericsuh620 5 лет назад

@@azimalif266 I wasn't giving opinions just stating facts.

@robertp457 5 лет назад

Eric Suh the 8700 is a 65w part, too, which is what it should be compared to and not the 95w overclockable 8700K

@robertp457 5 лет назад

Eric Suh no actually you weren’t stating facts.

@someguynamedrob581 5 лет назад

Putting together an iNUC has been super simple since the 6th gen Skylake processors. I recently put together a Skull Canyon iNUC with 16GB of RAM, and dual SSDs for less than the entry level Mac Mini (thank you Black Friday), and I also get a hyper-threaded i7 quad core on top of Iris Pro graphics. Throw in some tuning in the BIOS, and it's a performance monster.

@anchorbait6662 5 лет назад

That was a smooth advertisement transition at the end. Nicely done haha

@snazzy 5 лет назад

Anchor Bait Thanks!

@allantinker6838 5 лет назад

Hey look, my setup. I did a vanilla install though. I guess I should have done a bit more research, maybe the audio jack would work and I wouldn't randomly crash. Im sure Im missing some kexts in there.. But I also run it through a Dell docking station for my monitors, so it pushes HDMI sound through Dells drivers. Now if only I could get xCode to work.. One thing to mention though, is that you will hear the fan. Its whiny. So headphones or constant background noise is recommended..

@Thecatboi 5 лет назад

Would love to see a keynote where the audience react like that.

@christopherjames9843 5 лет назад

I know Mac users love OSX and all the applications that come along with that but if you don't need the Apple ecosystem and all the commercial apps there are so many great Linux distros that are a joy to use.

@JDW- 5 лет назад

I absolutely love your videos like this showing how to make a better Mac than Apple AND at a lower price too. Keep the great content coming, Snazzy!

@WarriorsPhoto 5 лет назад

Quinn, you're always finding ways to embarrass Apple's hardware. And, I personally like it. Keep these kinds of videos coming.

@BonBaisers 5 лет назад

@alysdexia It's a hackintosh, no need for Windows Pro. Anyway, MacOS Windows equivalent is not Windows Pro witch only includes some enterprise level services like domain join, group policy and bitlocker. Windows Home can be easly found for $50.

@anonanon4320 5 лет назад

Apple needs more severe beating and spanking.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

alysdexia Interesting point. $199 for the hardware?

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

Xavier Breath When did this happen? I was planning to buy a Vega 56 for the old rig.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

Xavier Breath I haven’t gone to Catalina due to this. I wait on mission critical machines till the Turd update but this OS version is becoming nothing butt crap on the floor. ;)

@nithitpiriyasathit6161 5 лет назад

This Intel NUC is my dream! I search about it for days. 8th CPU with Iris GPU !!! upgradable~ PERFECT! And... It can run MacOS 🔥😍

@fivesquaredyt2521 5 лет назад

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@nithitpiriyasathit6161 5 лет назад

FiveSquaredYT 25 Thanks for all ! 😍😎

@mpaudiobox-royaltyfreemusicfor 5 лет назад

Whats your nuc build? Im Planning to get one..

@higgit161 5 лет назад

I just completed a build, it took a while dont let the easy peasy attitude of the video fool ya, it took about 8 hours in total, I beefed up the parts I got the Intel NUC8i7BEH, Samsung 970 EVO, and 32GB of DDR4 Ram, everything works except for the wi-fi, which is not really a problem becasue my main server is Linux and its hard wired too, so I have a router in the room.

@markeggert9045 5 лет назад

@@higgit161 I built one too but the NUC8i5BEH1 hardware using the "vanilla" method. Wifi/BT not working because the intel chips aren't supported by apple, but that's ok. Everything else is working very well except for sleep. I put it to sleep and it immediately wakes back up. Did you get the sleep to work on your build?

@thedevincrutcher 5 лет назад

I am a huge fan of the NUC. Intel support for it is fantastic and it's perfect for a small apartment. We run one in the office and virtualize two OS on it for various services. This thing is a tiny beast.

@jesseblanchard9609 5 лет назад

I’d like to see what you could do with the whole budget on a NUC

@unstoppableExodia 5 лет назад

This channel is like a chilled, non abrasive version of Linus tech tips

@nomadben 5 лет назад

Nice video Quinn. I was looking forward to this one. Yet again, as a surprise to no one, you have obliterated Apple's own hardware for way less money. Nice!

@Seatux 5 лет назад

That single CPU score could be closer if Quinn just bought a pair of 4gb sticks of RAM tho.Or just get a pair of 8s, because memory capacity doesn't matter too much?

@curt8806 5 лет назад

Except his headphones are definitely very good fakes and not real. lmao

@philsburydoboy 5 лет назад

@@curt8806 I would be more inclined to believe they are third shift headphones. Often a Chinese fabricator assembling products for a foreign company will produce more than was ordered and sell it to Chinese distributors for a fraction of the price. Generally China protects this by not honoring the Chinese patent system when the defendant is Chinese.

@curt8806 5 лет назад

@@philsburydoboy I would never buy from a chinese vendor for something I know are faked all the time. Headphones are so often faked.The fakes are very very very good. Unless it's a computer you're buying from a chinese store it is likely faked.

@philsburydoboy 5 лет назад

@@curt8806 I'm not telling you to buy them. I'm just trying to make you aware of real goods that often seem fake because they were sold illegally. That happens a lot more than you seem to think.

@taotuhao5969 5 лет назад

No one will believe this. But I was very, very, very lucky and found a Dell Precision 3630 with top of the line 2019 specs for $200 at a Pawn shop. This is a $3000 computer. I don't know how this happened. But its not stolen, I was able to register under my name without issue. I had to tell someone, who understood, how significant my luck is with finding my new beast. Finally, it came with a nice monitor, keyboard and mouse too!

@bmhigginbotham 4 года назад

We'll start seeing Apple TVs being repurposed as Mac Minis later this year.

@joesasser4421 5 лет назад

These hack-n-toshes look pretty cool. I switched to Mac in 2008, and it took quite a while to outgrow the 1st 28” iMac. But we’ll be moving to Philippines in a year or so, and I’m thinking it might be worth it to head over to Shenzhen, and get an über powerful one built to handle video editing, photography, and recording. Thanks for the inspiration, and you have a new subscriber.

@m4dcat1990 5 лет назад

You know, once you switch to dual channel memory, you might wanna do the iGPU benches again! You might see a severe bump in speed!

@mm-hl7gh 5 лет назад

so much for "finalcut is only so fast because the apple hardware and software are SOOO efficient together" i sold my macbook pro to get a thinkpad x280 and couldnt be happier... but the idea of creating to a hackintosch now becomes very appealing... based on a good pc.. since i own finalcut

@lotli83 5 лет назад

I LOVE this DIY Mac shit 😍😍😍

@trssho91 5 лет назад

A NUC has been great a choice for a hackintosh build for several generations. I still use an old i3 ivy bridge NUC from 2013. It still works fine with its 8gb ddr3 ram and a 128gb msata ssd. My old NUC actually has a replaceable WiFi/BT card so my internal WiFi and Bluetooth work fine (including airdrop). It’s on par with a 2011 mini performance wise. I’m still running High Sierra, but plan to upgrade to Mojave soon.

@rajamobil2752 5 лет назад

Me watching this vid Me : MOOM can i borrow 500$

@Bretonium 5 лет назад

taxes :(

@JohnArmwood 5 лет назад

Wpw, I had some Stax earphones in the early 1990s. Back then I was a high-end fanatic with Sound Labs Ultimate IIs sing ended triode amps an Oracle Delphi 4 etc. You put a smile on my face.

@Rowsdow3r 5 лет назад

Yeah. I'm gonna hold on to my 2012 Mac Mini until it becomes completely unuseable. 800 Mac Minis with bad specs.I almost think they're joking.

@patience__8051 5 лет назад

Heck I'd better buy 10 crapintoshes from him than 1 Mac Mini from Apple. More worth it

@m0rkvarg 4 года назад

I‘m using an Intel NUC8i7BEH for 6 months every day at work in office. Best desicion ever. Windows 10 is running in Parallels Desktop like a charm.

@swishdagger3506 5 лет назад

Pls have another Nutcracker video with Samsung Evo drive, 16GB and new thermal paste on proc and compare it again to the new mac mini. 🙏😀👌

@MrHasie 5 лет назад

I remember seeing this sponsored ad and made a mental note of it. Couldn’t remember the name, so I started going backwards on your videos. Hopefully this works for what I intend to use it for. Thanks.

@NendoNow 5 лет назад

If possible, could you do a step by step guide on how to install osx onto the NUC. I saw the install guide, but that looked way more difficult than I thought it would be.

@TheEstampe 5 лет назад

I completed mine (although I still have an issue with ethernet but that should not be too hard to solve.) Check Morgonaut on RU-vid to get a basic idea on to install MacOS on a hackintosh. Tonymacx86 has some install and component guides, there are great resources on Reddit too. Bear in mind the components you choose have to be compatible. I struggled for a week because it turned out the SSD I had chosen was not compatible. If you dedicate enough time, you should manage rapidly.

@TheEstampe 5 лет назад

I now have everything working as expected including ethernet and sound. Just no BlueTooth or WIFI just as mentioned in the video.

@losangeleschessfortress6753 4 года назад

TheEstampe how is it holding up now? I plan to get the same setup aha

@charlesm.1638 5 лет назад

Great video, I didn't want to spend the money on a MacMini that is going to underperform. Are you going to test the build with dual channel RAM and see if performance improves?

@ShadowPhantomGamer 5 лет назад

I always watch your videos without socks.

@snazzy 5 лет назад

I’d never have it any other way.

@rehmanarshad1848 5 лет назад

Because this video is so good it knocks your socks off ...

@yeshalla2676 5 лет назад

lol same

@enshk79 5 лет назад

I’m going to make my first hackintosh and first custom computer ever because of you. Thanks for the fantastic videos!!!

@tipoomaster 5 лет назад

I'm curious why Apple opted to use the T2 for encoding when the Quicksync results here not just matching it but slightly better.

@freejulianassange3143 5 лет назад

lol, because that's not what it's really there for.

@tipoomaster 5 лет назад

@@freejulianassange3143 It's not the only reason it's there. But why would they even bring it up if it's only matching Quicksync at best.

@jjinnyc75 3 года назад

2018: The $800 Mac mini is a bit underwhelming. 2020: The $700 Mac mini blows both of these out the water lol

@iangc12345678 5 лет назад

Its Freakin Nucs! BUT is it CANUCKS?!?!?!

@snazzy 5 лет назад

NO DOUBT A 'BOUT IT, EH?!

@AsianFlex 4 года назад

I believe my first hackintosh was actually my laptop. It didn’t seem like anybody had done it on my model of laptop but I got it to work. The sound needed an external driver. The WiFi I couldn’t get working. Keyboard when plugged in it would work. I don’t know about the track circle. The camera also worked out of the box “it was a Lenovo thinkpad e530 base model but with an i5”

@lgude 5 лет назад

Point well made, that NUC is an attractive build, but I wouldn’t do It myself right now because I am coming off a Haswell based Hackintosh build I did in response to the 2014 Mac mini. It still works and I can live with the sound being flakey, but managing a Hackentosh ends up being a nuisance I don’t want in my life. So I got the i5 2018 Mini with 16 gigs and a TB SSD. It cost way too much but I’m glad Apple made it. I'm promoting the Hackentosh to a Linux machine and since I use Openshot for video editing I have the luxury of seeing if the Mac or Linux version works best. So far I have seen no sign of throttling on the i5 in the Mini but I will install some monitoring software. So far the Mini seems to have SSD speed better than any I have seen before. If I didn’t have my old tower I’d go right out an buy this NUC for my Linux machine. Really clear helpful video.

@UrbanWoodAlliance 5 лет назад

Ditto, having built and maintained a couple of Hackintoshes in the past I am willing to pay a significant premium to avoid the ongoing hassle. That said, the NUC build is pretty darned attractive, and Apple is approaching - or may have passed the point - where the premium they charge amounts to price gouging. My 4 year old $2750 MacBook Pro is giving me problems now and may require a new motherboard $$$! Not something I expected. Unless things change, I will be looking to reduce my reliance on their products in the future. As it is, I have replaced my iPad with an Android tablet, and have used Android phones for years now, and am quite happy with them. Weaning myself off the Macs will be harder, but is something I am preparing for.

@blazingdan 5 лет назад

The thing is, it depends on the consumer. Most Mac owners don't want to build their own, don't want to deal with the wifi issues, don't want only one Thunderbolt port (and one that doesn't really work well), and don't want to deal with hackintosh upgrading and maintenance. They just want it to work. Also, most---especially those considering the cheapest Mac Mini to begin with--are not doing heavy video editing, gaming, etc. Not that I was happy with the specs after waiting six years for a reboot. 🙂 But for the people it was intended for, who already don't mind paying the premium Apple prices, it more than gets the job done. Add the $300 i7 and use those Thunderbolt ports well and it's actually pretty solid. Good stuff though! No one (who knows anything) ever said you couldn't get equal or better hardware for less than Apple store it. You've shown that well enough. Cheers!

@Celcius1 5 лет назад

Oh thank you, I have been dreading purchasing a Mac Mini as I need it to use Logic, now I can afford to get Logic without donating money to apples failed hardware.

@fortunes4videos 5 лет назад

The internal graphics of the NUC will boost very clearly in comparison to the Mac Mini - if you upgrade to dual channel. The Iris (Pro) Graphics get even more benefit from dual channel than the normal Intel HD Graphics do. So the NUC will "afterburn" the Mac Mini in heavy graphic load programs using dual channel RAM.

@bstithler7442 5 лет назад

look how easy it was to open the NUC case and upgrade. that's what the peoples want

@christopherjames9843 5 лет назад

This!

@MainAvel 5 лет назад

And that's precisely what Apple doesn't want "the peoples" to do.

@anthonyornelas9921 5 лет назад

GREAT video again! You always make "Snazzy" videos! I was excited to see this build. I would LOVE to see how close to "perfect" you could get an Intel NUC NUC8i7HVK running. With the integrated graphics, it could be the ultimate Mac Mini!

@jollyfu7251 5 лет назад

Most inportant things is the NUC's GPU much stronger than Mac mini（including all the type）

@NexXxus86 4 года назад

Yea, we're comparing UHD 630 vs Iris Plus 655 here, I've compared benchmarks and I was shocked what the Iris Plus is actually capable of.

@5urg3x 5 лет назад

Wow, an ad showcase at the end of your video that is actually useful and also comes with a cool story. Love that you got those headphones safely and cheaply! Killer.

@snazzy 5 лет назад

Nick K Cheers, man! Thanks!

@AlexMobaraki 5 лет назад

Any thoughts on how it would handle running digital audio work stations? Logic pro x specifically?

@samandrew8158 5 лет назад

Don't do it, you will have problems. Buy a Mac if you need to run Logic Pro X. Seriously, I was an audio engineer for my first "career" and work in IT now. Just save yourself tons of time and headache and buy a legit Mac. You've been warned!!

@AlexMobaraki 5 лет назад

Cheers for the heads-up@@samandrew8158. Are you speaking from personal experience? If so, what sort of issues did you have to deal with? I've got a 2011 macbook pro 15" at the moment that's just about holding up under the strain... Upgrade will be in the next year or so no doubt and the savings on a hackintosh are just too good to ignore... No harm in a little research aye. I know the builds can vary in compatibility massively.

@scooter825 5 лет назад

Thank you for this! I was tempted but I need my DAWs to run flawlessly. Guess I'll get the new legit mini and surgeon more ram into it.

@KegelLicht 5 лет назад

Logic works fine here, even better than on my MBP @@samandrew8158

@invyspirit 5 лет назад

I'm not sure how I got you in my subscriptions list. But hey, it's been your third video in a row which I really enjoyed! Great work, keep it up! Thank you :)

@FranktheTank319 5 лет назад

I don't have any interest in owning any Apple products, so why am I even here? I guess it's just because you make interesting videos.

@eubankles 5 лет назад

Love the privacy app. Very helpful for "trial memberships" that require a credit card. Create a burner so you don't get burned!!

@joshua4302 5 лет назад

Wait. Did somebody really screamed “boo” during the announcements? Did you see his face?

@snazzy 5 лет назад

Joshua lol no I dubbed over that.

@randomguy3505 5 лет назад

@@snazzy Dude that was so well edited I even checked the real keynote. But unfortunately the real audience are clapping sheeps.

@joshua4302 5 лет назад

Snazzy Labs man I knew it! It sounded weird. But his reaction makes it look real again. But now when I listen to it again I can hear your voice. I feel stupid now. Thank you

@razorseal 5 лет назад

@@randomguy3505 I was about to check too! LOL

@DarrenD777 5 лет назад

@@snazzy F'n BRILLIANT! ROFL! I mean, I'm an iOS guy now (never was a huge fan of sooo many versions of Windblows - v7 was my only fav) but, still, Apple is in need of some good changes. THANK YOU for doing this vid, and now I go to watch the Mac Pro version.

@actuallyokay6155 5 лет назад

This is a great video. I always love to see the hackintosh community thriving. I built my first on a Pentium 4 system, using the Kallaway firmware with OSX 10.6 Been looking for a more practical bit of hardware, rather than a compatible-parted tower. This could just be the iMac killer I've been looking for, 4k monitor separate of course 😉

@lenn55 5 лет назад

I'm glad to see Apple's stock taking a beating. Just show's that Cook is no Steve Jobs' and his only concern is making money by charging loyal Apple buyers outrageous prices!

@Danny-gs7rv 5 лет назад

Yep. Cook made the huge mistake of putting all of his "apples" into the iPhone and ignore what made Apple a great company, the Mac. Sure hope the board gets rid of him next year and Phil Shiller also. Phil should have been gone after the MacPro disaster.

@samuelwhite3173 5 лет назад

@@Danny-gs7rv Apple is a great company for the subject of ridicule. I laugh everytime they release a new product.

@crimsun7186 5 лет назад

Because of course, Steve Jobs was a saint that never did anything questionable over his life as Apple's CEO. Will people start praising Cook as well once he dies too?

@phillytee9106 5 лет назад

Apple Mac Mini £799 Intel Nuck build about £500 (dunno why but Ram and SSD's cost slightly more in the UK), so basically Apple are taking another £300 off you to have the Apple logo on the top, you're actually getting more storage in the Nuck if you get a 256 GB SSD, twice as much as the Mac Mini's dismal 128 GB base model SSD (why so little Apple WHY!?) and the Intel chipset is basically the same, no T2 chip and only 1 Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C but you get more USB 3 ports on the Nuck. Only downside is the WI-FI, interesting alternative though, good work!

@amok00 5 лет назад

I think i’m gonna build this just to try MacOS haha

@KarmaSangheili 5 лет назад

Takes a teeny while to learn the new/different shortcuts, etc; that said, it's lovely once you get used to it.

@samandrew8158 5 лет назад

As someone who has built several Hackintosh machines: it's not _really_ the same.

@lostcosmos3245 5 лет назад

This video was highly informative, both for the mac build and privacy! thanks!

@dhrumil_108 5 лет назад

By saying 800$ apple said... give us your money.

@Angultra 5 лет назад

Finally someone that compares the size. The Mac Mini is huge while the NUC is like an Android Box.

@tlchmedia 5 лет назад

And it starts at *JUST* 799$.

@TEENYcharma 5 лет назад

TechTalk yeah... like a normal computer should be

@vvs.jeremy 5 лет назад

Intel NUCs are used a lot for digital signage deployments so it’s an appropriate comparison considering the Apple website states that the Mac Mini is built for digital signage as well.

@harenthiran 4 года назад

You people are building awesome models from cube. I'm still spinning the cube and wondered how 3d software workes

@SappyJupiter37 4 года назад

the guy at the beginning: *i3????.....boooooo*

@Sawell123 5 лет назад

excellent job on this one! i really do consider buying/building this hackintosh

@gcsalzer 5 лет назад

Why Apple can't just make something like this blows my mind.

@patience__8051 5 лет назад

70% design 28% marketing 2% hardware Apple's budget since the first iPhone.

@MSPaintDaily 5 лет назад

@@patience__8051 never heard something so true in my life

@tdrewman 5 лет назад

@@patience__8051 That sounds about right..

@onehappynegro 5 лет назад

why not at least sell the macos. been with windows since 1994 but often linux in between. i just want the os not the fancy design. windows 10 tends to force upgrades, nothing innovative that i want or need.

@johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

alysdexia That other thread had you going increasingly mad with odd semantics debating someone else. Anyway, Louis R has me convinced Apple is getting too power hungry with their hardware lockdowns and repair processes. Their app store policies also include some abuse of power. But at least they have not gone down the extreme spying path of Google and Microsoft.

@AlexanderL1911 5 лет назад

NUC throttles because of the long period PowerLimit (default 30W), after short Turbo Boost PowerLimit time (default 64sec on 50W) is over. It could be changed in Windows easily with Intel XTU or ThrottleStop, but in MacOS it's harder to do (no free apps that can do this things as far as i know). So it's possible to raise NUC's long period performance to CPU's theoretical maximum of 3.6GHz for all 4 cores.

@mrbill2380 5 лет назад

@Snazzy Labs would you share your bootloader config? I bought this NUC8 with 16GB and 250GB EVO based on this video and I cannot figure out the "simple" guides at the links. Spent over 16 hours building USB and reading forums... I'm about to give up. I've think I'm fairly good at following instructions, but I must be missing something because I can't get Phase 2 to allow me begin OS install without it crashing. Any help would be appreciated.

@DynamicCash 5 лет назад

Add me on discord: mjessup #4446

@sgilder06 5 лет назад

The video does seem a bit misleading on how "simple" it is to get this working.

@SteffVanhaverbeke 5 лет назад

Any luck so far?

@agustineaustin7855 5 лет назад

I got the nuc i7 and samsung 970 evo 500 gb and g skill ddr4 8gb and would love to know about this too

@VigneshMarthandan 5 лет назад

Did you solve your problem?i am thinking of duplicating this setup

@joeylawell3590 4 года назад

man am i glad you out that “lower is better” on some of those slides 😂

@dmitrymatora442 5 лет назад

Why didn’t you use model that doesn’t have WiFi soldered, like NUC8i5BEH???

@MitchyTheKid4095 5 лет назад

Because it has the same WiFi soldered down too. The H versions only difference is it supports 2.5" drives as well. The motherboard is the exact same as the K version.

@dmitrymatora442 5 лет назад

Hmm. For some awkward reason I was sure it is wifi swappable. Thanks for highlighting that it's not, I've almost bought one. I guess I'll have to stick with NUC7i5DNHE, which does allow WiFi swapping and has NVME support (no TB3 unfortunately)

@indiekiduk 5 лет назад

Also lose twice fast graphics Iris Plus Graphics 655 vs HD 620

@lightchild 5 лет назад

indiekiduk which one has the faster graphic ?

@huntersmith3034 5 лет назад

@@dmitrymatora442 You can get WIFI/BT working on the NUC8i5BEH, but it will cost you the pciE slot, because you would need to install a supported broadcom chip using an pciE adaptor.

@guitmz 5 лет назад

Just ordered this NUC, thanks for tje benchmark. Should work just fine for music production

@guitmz 5 лет назад

And it does, macos install was one of the easiest I ever did :)

@theorangeguyna6762 5 лет назад

Thanks for the very informative and detailed comparison. I just failed trying to build a new NUC8i5BEH. Brand new, with certified memory (Corsair 16GB memory) and 500GB samsung EVO. The thing was unstable running Windows 10 with all latest patches and drivers installed. 4 BSODs while doing nothing in the course of 4hrs. Of course, all testing it passed flying colors, memtest x86, prime95, etc. Apple should not be proud of touting specs of entry level systems when in fact they are sub-par