02:00 🤔 Long-recoil system 308 rifle by Olympus Arms - Promises lighter recoil but physics doesn't work that way. 03:02 💸 Expensive pocket pistols - Small, featureless, and overpriced firearms with questionable utility. 03:49 🎸 Guitar case gun case - A guitar case that looks like a Pelican case, raising questions about its concealment effectiveness. 04:58 🔫 Shotgun upper for AR10 - 12-gauge upper for an AR10, turning it into an expensive and unconventional shotgun. 05:31 🛡 Crusader-themed rifle - Critique on the use of Christian imagery in firearms, especially Crusader-themed designs. 07:00 🚔 Militarized police gear - Criticism of the abundance of police and militarized-themed products at Shot Show, highlighting societal implications. 07:34 🚙 All-terrain vehicle - A peculiar and impractical vehicle design that garnered unnecessary attention. 09:05 🔥 Under-barrel flamethrower - Exothermic's under-barrel flamethrower raises safety concerns and questions about practicality. 10:50 🔄 Manufacturing trends - Critique on the industry's constant push for new products to appeal to consumers, urging caution and practicality.
That guitar case just looks like a normal guitar case to me. That's the one thing Deve got really wrong. People are very serious about their instruments, as they often cost WAY more than the average gun and they are much more fragile. It's not the 1900s anymore. Nobody is using those old Desperado cases, lol.
@@psn64sat63 I agree, a BUNCH of the musicians I know would 100% put their guitars in that case, because airlines DESTROY them if they aren't in something solid.
Number 1 is especially amusing since most well-known Long-recoil firearms, also have a reputation for having punishing/excessive recoil. Such as the Browning Auto-5 shotgun, Chauchat MG, and Remington Model 8. Literally, one of the top complaints for ALL of these weapons, is that the recoil is sharp, harsh, and unpleasant.
The Seecamp .32 is a classic gun! They were the only good tiny gun of their kind back in the 80's, were reliable with Winchester Silvertips, and unobtanium. Their business model is supplying them to folks who wanted one back then and couldn't get it, long before there were other options. If I were a gun collector, I'd get one, but as you say, impractical for modern use with many alternatives.
NO!!! You have it to brutalize black and brown people. Who is this guy? He sounds like a commi who likes guns? He's almost as bad as the yankee martial.
The car: absolutely! The mini guns..NO! Your hit to miss ratio would be atrocious and a complete waste of ammo and money- The way that car rides you would need a digitally stabalized mount to keep you from missing your target 85 times after hitting a small bump. AR-15 with green laser / NV scope would be far more effective- unless you're fighting off a wall of 5000 charging hogs- mini gun is useless.
Also great for dealing with enhanced threats like dogs with bees in their mouths* (so that when they bark they shoot bees at you). * Simpsons reference. This is not an endorsement of dog-bee hybrids. That would be completely ridiculous and impractical. Bee-gators make much more sense as a ranged+tank|stealth+swarm min-max build for base defense.
Not one for paying like 500$+ for movie quality props like that. But 11/10 would buy a ZF-1 if I saw one at a good price to put on a shelf. Gary Oldman CRUSHED that role.
Why do these exist? For the same reason companies constantly reinvent detergent, shaving supplies, vacuum cleaners... you know, crap we've figured out decades ago
You would need friends to invite you to sit at the fire. This dude has probably one other little whiney fake intellectual basement dweller friend, and neither ventures into the scary wilderness...
Only people with friends get invited to sit by the fire. Other than the 80 year old grandma he lives with, this woke super intellectual has no friends.
Yeah, this dude definitely drives a Prius with a pink fuzzy steering wheel cover and a Joe Biden 2024 sticker on the back! Everything about this guy screams limp!
In the music world, instrument cases that look like that are a lot more common than you might realize. I wouldnt' flinch if I saw that case backstage, I used to have a black plastic acoustic guitar case that looks functionally similar, and a lot of orchestral string players use pelican-like cases for their instruments.
I have seen the pelican style cases used for instruments before. unless they are black or fake leather brown I have always been suspicious about what exactly is inside, because I sold so many of the gun cases meant to look like something else.
They sell guitar shaped foam inserts for pelican cases. Traveling musicians often use them. My old roommate was in a band and his guitar player used one when they went on tour in Europe (they were a smaller band, so no roadies, private jets, private bus etc)
My only disagreement in two parts: 1) shotguns have always been cool 2) I think the renewed interest in shotguns has to do in part with anxiety over national gun control
Lever action not ideal for prone shooting, the classics are great historical pieces, but I am even more averse to a new one than a bolt action for the very reason the latter supplanted the former in US military use.
@@HopeisAnger I guarantee you he is not pro liberty. No one with his politics is. They all think exactly alike, have an identical set of political views and are unbearable to be around.
I have the guitar case. I live near a community center and a school. Seeing a guitar case shape from a moderate distance by all the traffic doesn't call out "that house has a shitload of guns" As we say, your threat model is not my threat model. ❤
@pauldunecat -bingo on "your threat model is not my threat model." I live on a boat and in a community of other boaters who live in their boats which is practically half Canadians in the winter months in Florida and most of the others are from the Northern liberal states. A moisture-proof pelican case for guitars would not even turn a head unless the folks who saw you with it invited you over to jam with them and wondered why you didn't know how to play. They might just ask you where you got it because they wanted one too in order to better protect their own guitars from the salty moisture.
I was thinking the same thing. You aren't hiding it from the people at the range or a cop that pulls you over. You just don't want casual observers noticing what you put in your vehicle when you go hunting or to the range.
@@jmr Depending on the vehicle I see it in, I might consider a guitar a better stealing opportunity than a gun. If I were a repeat felon, at a minimum there are no "possession of musical instruments" enhancements
I have a keltec that was gifted to me in .32 acp....and it's the perfect pocket gun! Nobody wants to get hit with any bullet and it is still very lethal
@@vfonte218 I carry the P32 as well. I put a stiffer recoil spring in it and run Underwood +P that has Lehigh's extreem defense copper shaped bullets. Meet's FBI penetration with a self defense round. The stiffer spring isn't necessarily for the +P round but it makes the pistol a lot more controllable overall.
not sure how you got from triple-minigun-atv to racially motivated violence. if you were talking about water cannons or teargas launchers I could see it, but that thing?
@@Robert-cd5zr it's pretty fucking hard to recognize that in myself, but dev really seems to think that people are out to get others instead of just doing their best according to their understanding of reality. Like sure that thin blue line shit is cringe af and law enforcement often does a ton of harm, but that doesn't mean there aren't genuinely good cops out there giving their all to serve their communities.
I’ll chime into this conversation as well. Dev certainly has some hate towards christians. I’m sure he’s seen something bad in his past from some christians, but here’s another example of lumping all of a group together. I’m a christian, and while I don’t like his opinion, he’s free to share his view, same as I. It won’t make me dislike him, just realize we all have a few dumbass ideas in our heads
He's annoying. Yeah great way to grow your channel bud. Put down Christians call anything blue line and trump cringe and throw in a dash of war is racially motivated. Like white people are the oppressors. Shitty people are of all races and you don't need to look far to find plenty of black and brown people who are just as bad or worse than some politician. I'm all for companies putting out crazy stuff like that. Obviously it's impractical for anything other than pest control because everyone is left open to getting shot . But who cares because it's literally just for fun and wow factor
Only on RU-vid can you watch a guy perched in the sitting room of a 1980s retirement home, try to convince people he is qualified to critique styles and trends.
So... specifically with the Seecamp 32 and 380, they started making them in the early 80's, long before the Keltec as a brand existed, or Ruger decided to copy Keltec's homework. By all accounts, they're really well built, and it's a small company, which accounts for the price. Apparently, they still sell enough of them that the company can survive just selling those two models.
@@mattmarzula right now I have a truck that needs a new engine which is a big chunk of money going out right now. I have a nice Sig Sauer P938 9mm that is filling my pocket keeping me safe in the meantime
This has been a good laugh, listening to someone take himself too seriously. Some things are just fanciful rich people’s toys, not built for the masses. Maybe if anyone was taught self control and money management anymore, you wouldn’t have to say it out loud
@@baneofbanesI can understand why you’d say that. But I’m in a position where every penny matters. We drive a small car. I sold my hunting tool to replace my broken carry tool, and went with 9mm just to be able to afford to practice a bit. I’m no affluent man, but I don’t bite the hand that feeds me either. I don’t go about telling customers of my employer to downsize their vision, or chide them for having something special created for themselves, their family, or their employees. I revel in the craftsmanship of my trade, and love to build and fix what I can’t afford for my family. Excess and oddities power so many people’s paychecks, and so many RU-vid channels. You may not like that I don’t want to control how other people spend their money, but I’m also not going to be wanting to control how you spend your money either
@@davidelzinga9757 yah I really don’t care. No one here is wanting to control how people want to spend their money either. You seem to mistake the fact that he calls them dumb purchases with him saying no one should be able to buy them. But hey if you’re only capable of arguing with your strawmen than there’s really no point for me to continue with this.
@@baneofbanesyou provided no argument, only insult based on assumption. One man’s “waste of money” is another man’s bread and butter, or entertainment. I’m not going to pretend to be intellectual, I’m just going to laugh about people getting their feathers ruffled about things they don’t want or can’t have. If I wanted to waste money, I’d buy items from Amazon
@@davidelzinga9757 buddy you’re way to offended over this. If you’re any to waste your money no one’s saying you can’t. Doesn’t change the fact that a lot of these are a dumb waste of money. No need to be an asshole about it.
"Impulse" is change in momentum with a time-component. Stretching the recoil impulse out over more time _ABSOLUTELY_ changes how the rifle feels to the shooter, just like having "crumple-zones" in a car makes the difference in a survivable accident versus a fatal accident.... and yet the same total mass at the same original velocited was brought to the same stand-still. _CLEARLY_ increasing the time-component of stopping makes a difference. And for context, I was an EMT for a while. A car crash actually has three collisions: 1 - Car hits tree/concrete-barrier/other car 2 - Person inside of car hits inside of car 3 - Person's internal organs hit inside of person. The third impact is what kills. Reducing that effect by spreading the exact same amount of force over a greater period of time is a live-saver. That doesn't mean that a 308 with a reciprocating barrel recoils less, but it means that the same force is spread over more time... and that makes a difference. "That's not how physics works!" The word "sophomore" is a portmanteau of two words "sophos", which means wisdom (like the word philo-SOPHY) ... and "moros", which means fool, like "moron". Sophomore is literally a "wise-fool" -- it's when a person knows enough to argue, but not enough to be right. That's what this conversation about recoil is. Here's a longer example to help make this make sense: if you have a heavy bank-vault door, the force required to close it remains the same, because the mass of the door is a constant. You can close it with just a couple of fingers if you push it over several seconds... but if you hauled off and punched the shit out of it, you'd break your hand... _and it STILL wouldn't close._ The difference between the two forces on the door is that one is stretched over more time, and so it's much easier on your anatomy.... hence a protracted recoil-cycle on a 308.
It's a .308 though, which doesn't kick that hard to begin with. And in an AR-10 that means the bolt already has a big spring with a heavy buffer slowing the recoil impulse down over a long distance. Reciprocating barrels make sense for something like .50 BMG, 14.5mm, or 20mm, where you're shoulder-firing something typically meant to be fired from a crew-served gun.
@@1steelcobra I think that is really cool though, like from a mechanical standpoint that they were even able to get a system like that so compact in the first place. I'd love to disassemble one, but it will probably be a while until forgotten weapons gets their hands on it. :(
I'll throw my 2 cents on the shot gun upper. The big appeal is that if you put in on a fresh AR10 lower with no stock it falls into the non-shotgun category (because the federal statute regarding shotguns includes the term stock) and is therefore just a 'firearm' limited only by the 26in OAL requirement, not the 18in barrel one. So you could build that upper into say, a 12-14in barreled 26.5in OAL 12ga firearm. People were doing this with factory fresh Model 500 and 870 receivers a while back, and I've also seen variations of this done with the existing .410 shotgun uppers.
“ … used to oppress black and brown people .. “ “ … funds that can be used to house the homeless and for schools … “ Who wrote the script for the asinine video - Moms Demand Action???
Yea he’s swallowed the leftist talking points hook line and sinker. “Utilize my tax dollars to brutalize black and brown people” lol. He’s quite the snowflake.
Larry Seacamp has been making those little pocket pistols since the early 90's. in the 1970's Larry used to do double action conversions on Colt 1911 series 70 pistols. Colt bought his process and developed the ill fated Colt Double Eagle.
Did you really go to Shot Show, one of the largest gun shows in the USA, believing most of the shit there was marketed to your specific demographic, Mr. Deviant?
Those arent riot shields, theyre ballistic shields. And the dumb amount of mounted guns on that thing looks like its just showing off more mounting options for a vehicle we've already had in inventory for a long while. And yeah it's gonna draw attention, it's ridiculous. Some people can find things funny for being ridiculous and outlandish instead of being a buzzkill about everything
Re: recoil, I think the natural definition of recoil is the maximum force experienced by the shooter. Thus, by spreading out the total momentum transfer over a greater period of time you can reduce the recoil.
Right. You won't decrease the impulse (force over time = change in momentum), but you can decrease the peak force by spreading it out over a longer time. Whether that rifle does that effectively I have no idea.
@ 1:44 you're completely wrong about the long-recoil. Go ask anyone who shot a Barrett vs any of the gas-operated .50 BMG semi-auto's how their shoulder is doing. In a perfect world with no friction, your "physics" would be correct, but with friction and spring tension, the longer impulse does provide a softer recoil through spreading out the same recoil force over a longer period of time.
Even without friction the smooth-brained moron is still wrong. Only an idiot would think adding the weight of a massive barrel to the recoiling assembly would yield the same felt recoil. This design has been proven in a plethora of different long gun models. This dude has no business even being at SHOT Show.
Yes and time allows force to be absorbed slowly. 100 mph baseball has equivalent energy to a .22 lr ( about 90 ft lbs) getting hit with one hurts, the other can kill. But his beard and his big words make him smart and us dumb.
@vtxrecruiter I love Guntuber tardfiles. I'd have swallowed granpappies recoiless rifle by now, but thankfully, I get to sit on the edge of grannies couch for the next episode of "I'm a closet juggernaut."
"Don't let this industry convince you, you _have_ to get new things all the time" Words to live by, and it applies to more than just the firearms industry (*cough*electronics*cough*)
It applies the the entirety of late-stage capitalism. Businesses need to manufacture demand to keep squeezing money out of their customers in their obsessive, insane quest for infinite growth
The vehicle one looks similar to the ones we are buying for airborne and recon units. All the guns are to get people to take pictures with it, the real one's big might have a 240 on the passenger side
Yup, usually it has 240s. and it's showing off the different mounting points. Don't have to use all three at once. But because of his world view he thinks local sherriffs are going to run around with it set up like that hunting down minorities (or the Army will be doing that looking for innocent civilians to kill)
Physics does work like that! Take the shocks off your car and see what happens? The car weighs the same but you might say there's more "felt recoil" being transferred to the driver. The spring in the long recoil action is taking energy and transferring it forward moving the whole barrel and bolt instead of just bolt and carrier. Also some of the energy will be turned into heat energy in the springs themselves. I'm not crazy about this negative format but I bet it out performs your positive video though, and really 500ish bucks is not that crazy for a seecamp pistol. That's like 3 trips to the grocery store for a small family these days.
Re: recoil impulse. It's called "impulse" for a reason. I mean, they didn't exactly use correct term for relevant time-derivative of position, but one can understand what it's about.
Long recoil if properly setup up (doesn't slam into rifle when reciprocating rearward) than the felt recoil can be reduced... look at the Barret .50cal semi's. It definitely has a different feel.
@@ryanpeck3377 exactly, lots of the energy is stored in the springs and move away from the shooters the action cycles. He's right you can't get rid of energy but you can redirect it, store or convert it.
There's a second group buying whatever gets hyped: newbies. Whether young or just coming around from either being antigun or just ambivalent, newbies are absolute suckers for hype. I sure was.
those expensive little 32 and 380's are seecamps and stainless polished is much nicer but u have to own one to appreciate them, in the 80's it was 2 yr waiting list and they were selling for upwards of $2000, these days u can find used pieces for 350
I was at SHOT range day, the olympus arms owner or CEO or whatever was doing an interview with someone else. I overheard them asking almost 7k i think for the rifle platform. Yeah, i dont know why they havent been bankrupt yet But why on Earth are you going to a military industrial complex trade show and then getting mad that the show is catered to war and police
On the guitar case, they've been making them for years, we actually use these on stage a lot during tours, ours generally hold 2 rifles and 2 pistols. Blends in with the other gear on stage. Some artists insist on them in the current climate. I see them a lot more in smaller to medium settings where you dont have good security or a good way to get to a safe spot from the stage. Part of our "run fight hide" plan
To the ‘nth degree. I thought I knew the deepest extents of Dunning Kruger, until this video. I’ve now learned how little I know about how little a man can know.
Yep. He proves the effect is true.... "Derp I are imtelluhgemt, and I has good opinyuns, and if you disagree, you iz a hillbilly. My Hillbilly self makes a serious living wage teaching extremely complex, new technology, gas turbine engines, I was a college professor, and I don't even attempt to sound as "brilliant" as this genius.
@@vtxrecruiter Yeah, when he said "unhoused" and "fem-presenting-person," it was obvious to me that his father never told him he was proud of him, and his mother never hugged him.
@@JCG105 You're not wrong. The typical authoritarian wannabe, dissolving language into meaningless contrarian drivel and forcing it onto people, then using it as a weapon to force social change to what they want regardless of anyone elses opinion. I generally don't tell anyone I was born male, I'm one of the few actual gender dysphoric decepticons, not just some perv or cross dresser who has hijacked the *illness* for woke points. It's not a lifestyle choice to be made, it's a coping mechanism for an illness that woke society refuses to acknowledge or treat - and now tries forcing onto kids and people with identity issues. All the while removing agency from actual people who have had to transition in order to cope with their illness. It's literally being used as a control method to force these identitarian politics onto people - mostly by stuck up little authoritarians just waiting to slip into some Hugo Boss - who have to satiate their needs for power in a way they feel can't be challenged. If someone called me "fem-presenting" they would get slapped in the face for outing me in front of people without my consent. It's saying "This is a male pretending to be a female and as such you are ordered to treat them as female even though I just told you they were a male and you didn't even know until I said anything." I hate it and do not associate with the rainbow mafia or their unscrupulous cohorts. Seriously I only watch this guy because it's entertaining seeing a grown man have childlike glee over defeating simple security mechanisms that many teenage criminals can show you how to do in exchange for smokes. Sorry for wall of text, it's the hormones 😂
This video got me contemplating things. How in the hell does a gun guy not know what a Seecamp is? Also, the Crusader build was sick, Deus Vult. Lastly, any man that doesn't see why a flamethrower attached to a rifle is cool most likely gets style advice from the 97 year old woman who decorated that room.
Lmao, that Crusader rifle was one of the dumbest AR-15s I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to even post that trash on 4chan, which is already trash enough.
The guitar case doesn't seem that bad, I'm a guitarist and have actual guitar cases that look like pelican cases, they are made for touring/shipping your guitar. A person with a military/firearms background probably thinks "Pelican case! That's clearly a gun" But I don't think the average person would.
You may not see this but it uas to be said. Its really a breath of fresh air to see someone who is interested in firearms etc to not be an ultra hard this blue line super patriot youre awesome dude. Keep it up
your posture the entire video made me think you were doing the "cool dad" thing where you joke around before you get on to me for my bad grades or something
As I read through the comments critiquing this video, my faith in humanity has been restored. I am glad I am not the only one thinking he was recoding this from a retirement home from 1970.
The "Industry hype" you mentioned is spot on--geez, it's just crap your kids will have to haul off. Your advice to 'get good with what you have' is also on target. I saw the SimX visoplastic/non-Neutonion fluid self-defense rounds, that looked interesting. Can you find out more about those ?
I'm a gunsmith that specializes in box fed competition shotguns and have hands on experience with that particular AR-10 shotgun upper. I really like the concept of a gas operated AR-10 style box fed shotgun. This one is poorly built and never made it through a full magazine with any of the variety of mags and ammo that were tried. In addition, there were clear machining errors when it was disassembled and it felt very much like a prototype rather than a retail product.
Too bad you can’t find the good ole Russian made Sega 12. I use to have one and it was damn reliable. No modifications, no upgrades. Haven’t seen one in quite a while out here on the left coast.
Number one stupid thing at SHOT show drum roll please. ATF booth. They are not a partner to the firearm industry. They serve as much a purpose there as the roofing booth at a local gun show.
Lol I thought that it funny that he mentioned the "guitar case." It's obvious that this clown has never even seen a guitar. SKB and Pelican have been making hard shell guitar cases for years.
Many musicians use pelican cases for travel. You can fit a guitar plus cords, strings and pedals in it. Companies make precut foam for that. Also pelican cases are used for photography/video equipment probably more guns.
FYI some of the worst cities spend the most money per student. Another guy that thinks a few more dollars will solve bad test scores and homelessness. It all comes down to mental health and IQ, buddy.
For when liberals try and excuse that with systemic racism and similar nonsense, you can point out the amount of money Norway spends per student and the resulting test scores compared to the other Nordic countries, especially Finland.
My response to item #1 = In the modified car/hotrod world there is a saying for this circle of consumerism "Spending money you don't have, on parts you don't need, to impress people you don't know."
I think the comparison to the fashion industry is a good one. Manufactured trends to make people feel discontent to the point they have to buy the next new thing.
I saw a guy with a guitar gun case at the range last month. It's a nice case really and he said he's taken it lots of places and no one even blinks. Maybe not that bad of an idea after all. There's also a video of a photographer that keeps his $$ tripod in a rifle case and gets harnessed all the time by cops.
Carrying your guns in a guitar case is one thing, but if that's your plan, I think Deviant is right: just buy a guitar case and monkey with the inside. (I'm sure somebody makes one with hard enough sides and a sturdy enough lock hasp, if that's a concern: guitars can be expensive, after all.) The problem there is, THAT case just looks like a gun case shaped like a guitar.
@@trioptimum9027 Actually it only "looks like a gun case" because you're seeing it up close and you already know what it is. I guarantee you if you walk down the street or through a mall with that 99+% of the people will assume it contains a guitar with just a casual glance and will then completely ignore it.
I agree fully with 'practice with what you've got, you probably can't outshoot your gear'. I've been focusing on getting the most I can out of one rifle and one pistol, doing dynamic challenges, and keeping it as minimalist as practical and I'm having a great time. I have a fixed 4x hunting scope I paid near to nothing for and it has done everything I've asked it to. At this point I try to ask myself "does this fill a need or specific deficiency; if no, will I have as much fun with it as it costs?" Don't even need to go to matches, you can just set up some steel poppers and a VTAC barrier and get a kettlebell and learn to shoot while you're sweaty, tired, and at a weird angle. As an aside I've got a friend who has one of those crusader lowers and the thing has absolutely horrible quality, stuff keeps going wrong with that rifle and it's all lower related.
These days, when I find myself chatting with someone who self-identifies as a "patriot" or a "Christian", I have a good idea what I'm dealing with here. Crosses and starznstrypes shit is super cringe. And asking "what's it for" at SHOT won't make you any friends. :)
5:56 noticed a typo, that should clearly read 'When your bumpstock gets declared a machine gun on presidential orders' Also as a Batfan the thin blue line batarang made me cringe so hard. Yeah the guy who started fighting crime in his town because every cop but one was crooked would TOTALLY back the blue...
I’m surprised you didn’t hammer the idiotic ‘2011’ manufacturers and the idiotic idiots who stumble after them, lapping up their circa 1900 tech, no matter the price. I was midway through a nap during another ‘Best of Shot Show’ hour plus long video, when I awoke to an interviewer going over the two releases for 2024. The manufacturer escapes me, because I think somewhere in the recesses of my mind, my brain triggered itself into survival mode. I had to rewind thrice, when the presenter didn’t bat an eye at the $6,000.00 MSRP. For a 9mm 1911 carry gun. Not race gun, not super special sauce gun, but a ‘2011’ carry gun. Oh, but it did include an optic, as it had no iron sights. They were extra… Nice to find your channel. No jokes on your living room decor. It looks like every living room in Northeast Ohio when I lived there. I’ll surf back and check for the video. Thanks for the review.
@@Atlas3OO By god, I am. Thank you for clearing that up. I hope Atlas sells a zillion of them, because I am a capitalist after all. If however, I lived to be a trillion and spent nearly $7k on a tricked out show pony to carry around, I’d check myself into a looney bin. Beauty and beholder and all notwithstanding.
Yep everything is ridiculous, you can fucking own a 2000 pound bison. A fucking bison in your living room ! A tank with fur and horns! But if you get a ferret your going to fucking prison ! Shit is insane.!
I'm someone likes the Seecamp but to be completely honest the pocket .32 gold standard to me is the P32. 10oz including 6+1 rounds of .32? Love mine, never a reason not to carry it.
Pretty hard to find P-32's lately. Check around online -they are all "out of stock." Gun shops don't have them new or used around here. You might get lucky at a pawn shop if someone hasn't beaten you to it already. They are very popular here in Florida now that permitless carry is all the rage.
5 years ago everyone called me a fudd because I like lever guns. Had a Marlin growing up and now own several Henry models. I just think they’re neat and it scratches my cowboy itch. Now a bunch of companies decided to slap MLOK and paracord on the things and suddenly they’re the new hotness that every tactiboo MUST HAVE and my lever action is more tactical than your lever action and blah blah fucking blah. Buy what you like. Don’t just buy what the meta tells you to buy.
I have repurposed my Savior guitar case for my competition throwing axes when I travel. The three layers of foam keep everything safe and secure. But Yes. Upon initial viewing everyone immediately thinks of the Desperado gun case.
Your #9 pistol you hate is a great pocket pistol that is of better quality and reliability than the ones you compared it to. That’s why it exists. People like firearms that are very concealable and reliable unlike an lcp which is not.
A Seecamp, the gun that could only use 32 ACP ammo of a specific length, more reliable than a Ruger LCP? Okay, now you're just making shit up because you like Seecamp.
I'm sure you already know this, but as far as the Seecamps go, back i the 80's, they were kind of like a Holy Grail of deep concealment back up gun, very high quality and not easy to find and expensive when you did. There are a lot of much better choices out there now, but if you really wanted one then and could never afford it on any of the rare occasions you found one, getting one now could just scratch that itch that nothing else could.
can we also start teaching women that carrying off-body is a TERRIBLE idea? like, right up there with gas station sushi and invading Russia in the winter. just stop promoting it with these bags.
Plus the earlier comment hoping that a company isn't christian, I'm afraid he might just hate white people or something, not to bear false witness. Very, very disappointing.
