The 150-Watt 64-Core CPU - AMD Epyc Siena 8534P Review

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AMD and Intel are battling for a new server space, and it's not with mind-melting performance. Today, we're taking a look at AMD's performance-per-watt entry thanks to Supermicro, loaded with an AMD Epyc 8534P 64-Core CPU that draws just 150W. High Core Count, Super-efficient CPUs are on the way, but at what cost?
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@mdd1963 8 месяцев назад

This server looks adequate to assume the role of backup DHCP server for my home's 6 devices ! :)

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

I mean, isn't that the goal of homelabbing?

@annebokma4637 8 месяцев назад

Drink more beer, your devices will double in number 😂

@chriswright8074 8 месяцев назад

You need more devices

@SurfSailKayak 8 месяцев назад

@@annebokma4637 Forget water cooling, is anyone beer cooling yet?

@annebokma4637 8 месяцев назад

@@SurfSailKayak I don't do water... Not even for cooling... It might contaminate my whiskey so why take the risk

@i_Kruti 8 месяцев назад

I genuinely love that video when you cover a topic about servers...!!

@ghomerhust 8 месяцев назад

not very often that we get "new" tech on here! this is pretty sweet! saw the post in discord and hopped right on here

@rankenfile 8 месяцев назад

Watched for the server. Stayed for the brew! Happy Thanksgiving 😃

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

The beer gets em everytime

@ThinkAboutVic 8 месяцев назад

Found this channel thanks to recommended videos and I'm so glad I did, the vibes are beautiful, not to mention the review itself (although a lot of the homelab stuff goes over my head)

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! I appreciate it!

@nadtz 8 месяцев назад

Crazy that these rival Sapphire Rapids N at lower power draw and that you can pack as much as you can in that 1U. I'd love one of those for home use in a few years.

@TMS5100 6 месяцев назад

Incredibly powerful Epyc motherboards and CPUs are available 2nd hand on ebay for unbelievable prices now. Epyc hardware depreciates like a rock.

@erci78t77 8 месяцев назад

*drools* Man, I really love what they did with those PCIe lanes. If it were something I felt monetarily comfortable putting in my lab, I'd be ecstatic with a baby 8 core or toddler 16 core one of those in a 2U form factor for fan noise and graphics card sized slot reasons. Alas, I'll be waiting a while.

@mysterium364 8 месяцев назад

It's great to see this channel gaining popularity. 1/3 million subscribers is no small thing!

@chromerims 8 месяцев назад

Undeniably superb video 👍 AMD 8004 Siena line up, too cool 😎. That 8534P is stunning (whereas its $4950 price means around $300 for every 4 cores). SuperMicro has configured an amazing platform. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends. P.s. Had me wondering about the sound. Most likely not different from other 1Us . . . i.e. not comfortable to sit next to.

@svendolufsen849 8 месяцев назад

The suit !! I love this sm❤ thanks dude

@wargamingrefugee9065 8 месяцев назад

Here's a thumbs-up just for the in house commercial; had me laughing out loud. :-)

@cj_zak1681 8 месяцев назад

I think Jeff's ads have been world class lately. He seems to have tons of comedic talent, kinda underused in his content in my opinion. I only say that cos I want to see more of it! 🤣

@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 8 месяцев назад

It’s just neat to see how much the video progressed by the level of beer in your glass

@andrerohrbach3566 8 месяцев назад

Hey, Nice Video. Would be nice to know what the power usage is when running proxmox and just a few VMs, so that the CPU is mostly in a low utilization Szenario (~5-10%). Thx and have a damn good day 🎉

@PCFixer 8 месяцев назад

Love your arcade console, sir! R-Type for the WIN!

@mrmotomoto 8 месяцев назад

I hope to one day have something similar as a nas using only u.2/3 drives. But using the 16 core variant

@JeroenvandenBerg82 8 месяцев назад

Great review. Would have loved to have this unit a few months ago for a failover location setup. This would be great in a home-lab (in a few years, when prices have dropped) Is the overall power usage 151W during full load for the entire system?! Is that at 110V or 230V?

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

151W was package power, measured through HWiNFO. From the wall was around 235-265W total draw on 110V.

@dangingerich2559 8 месяцев назад

I would absolutely love to see half a rack of these in a hypervisor cluster.

@jongmassey 8 месяцев назад

What's the rear IO on that SM box like?

@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse 8 месяцев назад

I wonder if that thing would make a good Veeam repository server. Then again, my company demands we buy big brand... I don't think HP will come out with these anytime soon. Is there an on-board RAID controller or does this assume software RAID?

@elikirkwood4580 8 месяцев назад

Once these become cheap I am 100% putting an 8 or 16 core one of these in my main server. I really don't need a ton of power, an r7 4750ge is more than enough right now but the pcie these have is super nice

@1xXNimrodXx1 3 месяца назад

By that time AM5 R7 options will be the more reasonable choice.

@Galileocrafter Месяц назад

@@1xXNimrodXx1Not enough PCIe lanes.

@pongisan3658 8 месяцев назад

Deschutes Jubelale is my favourite winter ale.

@pkt1213 8 месяцев назад

13:40 Maybe a look at intergated epyc as home lab options?

@alexej7790 8 месяцев назад

Machins on 3647 socket are becoming much cheaper now days. Maybe look at what is available and find gold system to buy to homelab?

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

They're definitely on my radar. Kind of waiting for 2nd Gen scalable chips to become more affordable.

@AlexanderWeurding 8 месяцев назад

"Shut Up And Take My Money!"

@MD2389 8 месяцев назад

That'd make for a hell of a PLEX server, with plenty of room for VM's!

@TheExard3k 8 месяцев назад

I'm just waiting for the boards to hit retail....already planned a 24-core home server. Just the damn board is missing

@bruhzooka 8 месяцев назад

Doh! I had been calling un Vulter.

@jerrywatson1958 8 месяцев назад

I wish someone would do a review the 24C Threadripper. It has the speed I would be looking for OTB. I would use it for a Media Server. Plus the price is more affordable.

@ndperson1 8 месяцев назад

Think people would like to, but just weren't sampled it to try and push people to the higher ones which ironically can be worse for some things

@stizandelasage 3 месяца назад

The computer is my favorite thing no criminal record or devastating wound on my body

@shephusted2714 8 месяцев назад

what is a multi hundred gig fw? i contend it does not exist

@praecorloth 8 месяцев назад

You said "Genoa," but my ears heard "Jenova," followed by a death knell.

@Zenefor 8 месяцев назад

thats roughly 2.5w per core/2thread.

@greenprotag 8 месяцев назад

NICE!

@greenprotag 8 месяцев назад

Now... can I get it in 4U... and someone to buy my kidney...

@AlexanderWeurding 8 месяцев назад

3k? you can miss them both ;) @@greenprotag

@greenprotag 8 месяцев назад

Only 3k? I didn't know the market was so poor for black market organs. That's small personal loan territory.

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

It's always been buyer's market

@movax20h 3 месяца назад

Nice. I think Tyan Transport CX GC73A-B8046 is even nicer system, with a bit nicer board design, but still not easily available in most parts of the world (there are two places in US where one can order, but prices are not that great, and even more expensive than EPYC 9004 systems). But Supermicro also has probably a bit better BMC software, has more reasonable (smaller) PSUs, shorter and lighter. Both are interesting tho. There is also Gigabyte R143-E32 (rev. AAH1), but it is gimped because it has only 4 NVMe drive bays, rest is SATA (or SAS in -EG2 variant), which I think is very very silly. There is also ASRockRACK preparing things, there are some mobos already finalizing (marked "preliminary" on their side, as of April 2024), but not whole servers yet, or mobos for 1U systems. I wish there was a bit more Siena 1U servers available, from guys like 2CRSi maybe (which otherwise make very nice systems).

@BobHannent 8 месяцев назад

The thing that bothers me about AMD Epyc is the lack of a competitor to Intel QAT in crypto/SSL acceleration. Probably they're depending on users to buy a smart NIC but that's an additional overhead in the comparisons.

@crazykkid2000 7 месяцев назад

They have had 200w 64 cores for a while since gen 2

@arthurswart4436 8 месяцев назад

That is an amazing machine. I find it hard to get my head around the mere 860W PSU. With three pcie 4.0 16x slots of at least 75W each, ten SAS drives doing about 25W each, a 150W CPU with about the same Wattage allocated to cooling, RAM at about 5W a stick and a flock of fans throughout the server, those 860W must be gone in no time. Are both PSU's in use with the server scaling into safe mode when one of them fails? Or have those components become at least thrice as power efficient in the last 20 years? I may just miss something, old timer alert...

@morosis82 8 месяцев назад

Most people will be using SSD rather than spinning rust these days which uses a lot less power think 5-7W at full blast per disk. Of course that's something more like 2200MB/s rather than 250MB/s and hundreds of thousands of IOPS per disk.

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

PCIe 4 NVMe in enterprise can hit 7500 MB/s. Gen5 can do 14 GB/s!

@milo8425 7 месяцев назад

Oh dang only 6 channel, trying to figure out a good LLM build

@FlaxTheSeedOne 8 месяцев назад

Makes a pretty good ceph node. Grab a bunch and cluster NVME storage

@LtdJorge 8 месяцев назад

I want to do that with AMD Rome from Ebay, but I have yet to find a case with 2.5" bays that are not SAS (I want NVMe in there) and a reasonable price.

@FlaxTheSeedOne 8 месяцев назад

@@LtdJorge Yea you are probably not gonna find that anytime soon or for cheap. But on some cases you can swap the backplain for an NVMe capable one

@RocktCityTim 8 месяцев назад

Love your dive into this, but - ugh - it's ber-GAMM-oh. It's a city in Italy (as are all of the Epyc names).

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

While I appreciate genuine corrections, regional names are always appropriated. I didn't pronounce Bergamo as Italians would, but nor do I refer to Italy as Italia, or Germany as Deutschland.

@RocktCityTim 8 месяцев назад

@@CraftComputing Well, I would think that you would have the courtesy to pronounce them in the same way that the manufacturer pronounces them, but hey, it's your channel.

@henderstech 8 месяцев назад

I want one :(

@ronnietruman7296 8 месяцев назад

What’s the point of benchmarking against a 2 version old chip? The silicone is different, the power envelope is different… really can’t make any conclusions about performance aside from the specific comparison. What buyer would be comparing between a new Epyc chip or a soon to be decommissioned chip?

@CraftComputing 8 месяцев назад

Point me to the warehouse of Epyc Genoa and Sapphire Rapids CPUs and I'd be happy to test them.

@nadtz 8 месяцев назад

Someone looking to replace Rome hardware on a 'budget'. It's obviously not meant to be apples to apples but it shows what these chips can do compared to a platform a lot of people are probably familiar with and there is also the consideration that it's probably the best he had on hand to compare with.

@ThinkAboutVic 8 месяцев назад

You're expecting a (relatively) small channel to test against the bleeding edge.

@andrevilaca6469 7 месяцев назад

If AMD and Intel are making custom chips for lower power usage instead of brute forcing the customers to eat what they serve, means that ARM is putting up a fight