The 2014 QB Class... 7 years later 

I felt the same way with Drew brees, Ben rolithsberger ,Philip rivers and Aaron rodgers

That's funny, I have same impression, too. Can't explain it, other than there is some kind of child-like sense about them, that stands out in the NFL?

@@BobBob-eb4io thats interesting. Because I’m just 18 so Ive only ever really known those guys you mention as veterans, having started watching football around 2010 when those guys were basically the same age that Carr and Clowney would be now

Time flies by man

Same. I think my snapshot of football in general is around 2006-2007, so I still envision guys like Casey Hampton & Marvin Harrison still being around while Alex Smith and Reggie Bush were the new kids

Reminds me of how Matt Flynn turned one silly 6 TD game into tens of millions of dollars and never played meaningful football again. But good for him for winning the business end of the NFL. Nothing wrong with that.

@@johnchedsey1306 yep, perfectly put! Sometimes these people arent playing to be hall of famers, but rather to just make money, because its basically their job.

@@johnchedsey1306 oh hi Kevin kolb here

@N_JAMES yea, but then some realized after a few years or even less that they want to chase a ring or legacy

@@johnchedsey1306 he was a great backup his whole career tho

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Bc the NFL is ran off politricks

Hoyer had shown his ceiling already

Brian Hoyer? Really? I mean, I’m a Pats fan, so I’ve only ever seen him as an adequate backup, but do you really thing Hoyer was likely to play well for a full season?

Plus, the Browns wound up with Mayfield about two years later, so it’s not that huge a mistake lol Edit: Well this aged like milk

Yup. I'm hoping Carr pushes real fucking hard to get Davante for a reunion in the off season. Davante would be a perfect replacement for Ruggs

hell yea. but there was another WR. Jalen Sanders. had 12 TD's his sophmore year and he decided to transfer to Oklahoma. It would've been great with Carr, Adams and Saunders. dude was QUICK

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@@TonyGarciaxProdigy1994 Forgot Isaiah Burse, Josh Harper, and Aaron Peck. Those guys also made it to the NFL/CFL. Camp/ practice squad guys, but most CFB players don't even make it that far. When you consider that, its an insane amount of talent to be carrying on a G5 team.

Living 40 min away from Fresno I got the chance to see Carr play in college. My brothers went to Fresno State so they would take me.

If he was in the right situation, they’d be making it deep into the playoffs every year. An example is Tom Brady on every team he’s been on

He’s either an mvp candidate or shooting himself in the foot constantly, and it’s usually shooting himself in the foot

With Carr, who do you replace him with that will definitely be an improvement? He's above average but not great. That said, if they get the right coach and a couple more pieces around him in 2022, watch out.

The raiders defense still need to fully step it up. They are slowly getting there but the secondary is still pretty horrendous. Raiders can’t rely on Carr every game to make a comeback win or after giving away the lead bc the D couldn’t stop the opp offense. Tbh Carr prob has more haters in their own fan base than any other player. If Garoppolo can make it to the SB then Carr can make it too if he had a top 10 defense (49ers had a top 5 defense that year)

Though he does make some bone headed plays, the team tries to hard to be built like The Chiefs, he needs a possession receiver away from Waller

young kids who hated Coughlins demand for punctuality, Coughlin too old to understand the lax nature of younger guys. and an owner who is too quick to try and people please that ends up in everything going away.

@@boomznbladez405 definitely seems like it was fault all around - coughlin needed to let go more like he did on his championship runs but the young kids really needed to get serious.

Only way you fall apart that fast is through mismanagement.

Leonard Fournette was the secret, you build an offense around him and you Win in the playoffs

@@voiceofreason2674 yeah lenny is basically a cheat code. He's the most pissed off dude in the clutch. He's not great when he doesn't need to be clutch. But his clutchness when needed is as high as tom brady's which says alot

Watch his bussin with the boys. Manzel is a super sad story of a kid who just wanted to enjoy playing football and hanging out with people and he got into drinking because he dind't love football the way his dad wanted him to, and he was told that if he didn't play his family would disown him. He didn't even want to go to the NFL because football wasn't fun for him anymore. He just wanted to hang out with people and have fun. Now him and Mike Stud fund people who make things for parties and what not. Dudes living his best life since he gave up football.

@@michag4337 Manziel didn't give up football he was qb in the Fan controlled league last season, I'm not sure if the league is coming back this season but yeah

Ryan Leaf went to prison and Ruggs killed someone..dont have to be intelligent, which you arent, to clearly see there is a big difference between those two and Manziel and Russell

I love a morbid and dark sense of humor but ruggs is more tragic than the other 2 idiots. All be it under his own dumb choices

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Baaaa baaaaa 🐐

It’s been like 8 years since Florida States undefeated run. One of my favorite teams all time. Where did time go?

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Damn it seems like longer

@@Terror832 I played little league ball with Sean maguire QB and OL chad Mavety. And Ryan Izzo TE went to school at our in town rival!

Seems like just yesterday everybody was doing the money sign back in highschool fastforeward and I’m about to b 26…… man how time flies

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Sad but true. Live in Oakland now and I'm still surprised how many Raiders caps I see. Personally, if I was a fan of the team and they moved I would be pissed. My dad was originally a Dodgers fan when they were in NYC and burned his cap when they moved. Think that's an appropriate reaction lol

Bolt Up !!! ⚡⚡⚡

@@drstupid4366 shut up

Yea its like people have delusion or collective amnesia

We also know a few of them will probably be great

Well some will be stars, many will be solid contributors. Sure there are some busts, but of 32 first rounders, I’d say that 24 or so will at least make noticeable contributions on their rookie deals.

@@justinlokere yeah, of course. 24 sounds like way too many contributors. It obviously depends on the round so you definitely could be right. It'd be really hard to measure contributions (I think?) so we obviously couldn't get a true answer. I'd love to see someone break down the whole first round of one draft like 20 years ago and do like a 5 minute summary on that player. That'd be interesting. I don't know about you but sometimes I wiki previous drafts and go into rabbit holes to see how players did lol

@@justinlokere yeah there are definitely solid players. but quarterbacks tend to be very disappointing in general, especially the rookies.

As a Bucs fan, I'm so glad that he went before Evans.

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I’ll never get over the fact Khalil Mack went to Buffalo and I was screaming for my bills to get him and we drafted a glass bowl in Sammy Watkins 😑

I am grateful. I remember the talk “Manziel is the reason Evans is getting drafted so high”

How the hell did Florida even miss on him staying in Florida how tf he ends up in buffalo smh they failed on that one

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make that happen kto

Pat Mahomes draft right?

@@JOEL-mm7th nah Allen, Baker, Lamar, Rosen, and Darnold

@@dox8148 oh ok ..I only started watching the NFL at SB whatever when 49ers played KC

@@JOEL-mm7th he was drafted the year before

2016, he was an elite QB, MVP Race. Broke his leg week 16 and raiders season was over, Raiders would for sure beaten the Texans in the playoffs with Carr.

Teddy B is still the best from this class...

@@pacojuanrico7083 34-24

At their best, Teddy and Jimmy G have been better than Carr The thing is, Teddy’s potential was permanently limited by that injury and Garoppolo gets injured every year Derek Carr, outside of that massive leg injury back in 2016, has been healthy *AND* productive

Definitely agree. That knee injury forever changed the way Teddy B is able to play, you tell even now he’s hesitant to run

@@warlordofbritannia at their best teddy and jimmy g have been better then carr??.. lol I’m not really sure about that in my opinion. teddy was mediocre before his knee injury and still is mediocre. Jimmy g is below average to an average starter. Carr was an MVP candidate and was getting close to the elite category early on in his career.

Feleipe Franks n Ian Book r some others I would like to see on how they’re gna pan out

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Jones is doing pretty good

Lawrence has bust written all over his face ........He looks like a transvestite on his Subway commercial lol

@@drstupid4366 LOL 🤣

And the fans saying he sucks and put Mariota in

@@billrusso6422 only the fake fans, Derek Carr is a great QB despite what people say

Ah rashard mendenhall that brings back bad memories

Darren McFragile, as Raider fans called him.

RBs aren’t as sexy to make videos on as QBs. I hope he does though. Lol. KTO is always putting out great stuff.

Rashaed Mendenhall is a writer now for The Rocks show "Ballers"!

I thought McFadden was 07

😂

I remember though how much hype Johnny Manziel had and he was projected to be the 1 pick in that year’s draft

@@jakebuchsbaum3348 Manziel was the first ever Freshman to win a Heisman. The hype the dude had in college was insane from the getgo. Just kept letting that go to his head.

The Browns didn't get to 1-31 by making good draft decisions

I mean the report was technically wrong so that's a little less embarrassing for not listening to it.

i sure hope not - chiefs fan

sorry but the raider destiny is to always crash and burn mid season

@@themurricane8711 yep…. Just took a dub against the cowgirls tho

I don't think that's going to happen. Destiny says the Raiders are going through there mid season collapse despite the win against the Cowboys. Not a Cowboys fan but Mike McCarthy sucks at Head Coach.

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Bridgewater would have, and still is, an Alex Smith type of QB. Good, but not amazing.

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@@football42241 look at his 2016 preseason he could’ve been amazing

@@yayhay1 It's preseason bro lmao delusional

@@calebvelez2057 nah but he looked so good if he played half as good he would’ve been amazing

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Fun fact: if Derek Carr hits a 100+ passer rating, he would be only the 4th quarterback in NFL history to have 3 consecutive seasons above 100+, after Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning. Derek Carr had a monster 2020. His defense was trash though and he constantly had to bail them out. He lead the team on a game winning drive vs KC and TWO game winning drives vs Miami only for his defense to choke it away.

With the right team, Teddy could play like Ryan Tannehill. Good enough to be a competitive team, but not good enough to be their best player. Give him an elite running back, and some good possession receivers. He'll thrive

With the right team, Teddy could play like Ryan Tannehill. Good enough to be a competitive team, but not good enough to be their best player. Give him an elite running back, and some good possession receivers. He'll thrive

Teddy hasn't looked good this year especially against the Raiders when he threw like 3 ints

Little could you have known that the Broncos would trade the farm and give all the money to a QB in a serious decline

Yes he is a UCF legend he got inducted into the UCF Hall Of Fame this year and I’m a UCF fan

I think that his inconsistency is what's keeping him from getting another chance. If he could manage a game with those weapons consistently, he'd probably be doing way better

@@sportsnstuff5557 he inconsistently put up better numbers than Bridgewater did while he was protecting the ball lol. Bortles is no Brady but in the grand scheme of "mistake prone QBs" he is nowhere near the bottom of that category.

@@dtice69 naw. Maybe for 1 season.

@@sportsnstuff5557 he really needed to sit under a starter before getting his chance. We see it way too often, a QB who's not NFL ready yet getting thrown into a situation and never capitalizing on their potential.

Without a doubt

What team?

@@Thriftyknight Texans

You should be more upset that the Texans didn’t take Donald #1 overall

@@shaunoneil4705 i am, but it would have been strange to take him first. We shoulda traded back and taken him

Yep. I remember thinking exactly that during his 2nd ever career start against the Jets. Horribly painful game, but I thought Carr looked legit behind a terrible team.

he's not able to transcend a horribly run team. good qb, but will never end up in canton.

That might be. Maybe because so many teams were hurting for QBs, a lot of the old guard were retiring (or hadn't been that good in the first place).

@@eugenedenbrook322 there was definitely a gap. Almost none of those guys are reputable starters anymore, its either new younguns or old men. Like the best starter from that era right now is...either Russell Wilson or Ryan Tannehill lol

I dunno....Wilson, Luck and Griffen did okay as rookie, I guess.

@@johnchedsey1306 They did, absolutely. But other than Luck, Cam, Russ, and RG3's rookie year, most QBs of that era either didn't work out real well, or took a long time to develop (like Tannehill). These QBs are coming out of school more ready for the pro game, which is one reason why teams will move off a guy if he isn't showing the growth in year 1, or from year 1 to year 2.

Cam would've developed faster if they gave him o lineman and receivera

He leads the league in pass yards

You are both right. Carr is a passing yardage leader, because the O-line is horrible -- there's barely a running game to speak of, forcing Carr to throw the ball more.

Garoppolo threw 27 TDs and went to a Super Bowl. Bridgewater threw 28 TDs combined as a 2 year starter before injury

@@jamesonbolen9058 A fair point, but you're just looking at stats in a vacuum. Bridgewater (and Carr even more so) had a significantly worse supporting cast. If you replaced Jimmy with me or any random off the street, that 9ers team could've won 10-12 games.

The most inconsistent qb of all time

@@Cooz. that’s what happens when a team changes head coaches and/or offensive coordinators every off season. NO CONSISTENCY

Cleveland is so bad at developing QBs that Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady might be busts if they went there. Carr dodged a bullet twice.

If Derek Carr went to Cleveland he'd have been worse than Blake bottles

Am a cle fan and im convinced it wouldnt have mattered who we took in baker draft. Allen and lamar prob woulda sucked in cle and darnold and rosen sucked either way

@@calvinware7957 idk man, as a raiders fan, the raiders were a dumpster fire the first 2 years with carr at the helm, for doing as well as he did goes to prove how much of a baller he is

@@lonewanderer1017 in saying this more as an indictment of Cleveland than Derek Carr.

Facts, I diss on Jimmy G at every chance I get, but at the end of the day I love the man, and did he even help us this postseason, no. Hope he has a bounce back wherever he gets traded

I think the repeated injuries stunted his development. And yet he is still pretty decent.

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F brady

he gets so much undeserved hate, kirk cousins too

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As a 49ers fan, I’ve learned Jimmy G performs best with NO EXPECTATIONS! So for the rest of the year, I’m turning off my Niner Brain and going to enjoy whatever happens. Aside from the fact his week in and week out performances are random as hell!

@Skeptic Paranormal He probably would not get drafted higher than round 4-5. So it’s pretty hard to be a bust if you’re drafted in late rounds.

Lmao yall have Vince Young who is an even bigger bust..but i guess a lack of intelligence couldn’t allow that to resonate with you

@@eazye619 Vince Young was a bust but at least he did make a pro bowl

at least we have Myles Garrett, Von Miller, and Mike Evans. who do yall have? earl thomas and….? justin tucker ig??