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The 2024 F1 Belgian Grand Prix WINNERS & LOSERS 

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@LawVS
@LawVS Месяц назад
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@Alberthoward3right9up
@Alberthoward3right9up Месяц назад
Loved the live the other day. Especially the bit where you admitted being a wierdo. Was doing a timing belt and water pump on my car on my front lawn while listening. As a fellow wierdo who also admits it freely I was cheering you on laughing my ass off and looking like an idiot, to all those walking past. Not that I care.
@Kermit-The-Smaug
@Kermit-The-Smaug Месяц назад
If Oscars jack man did hold his ground, was knocked out of the way and the backup jack man had to step in, Oscar’s pit would have been 8-10 seconds. That jack man saved his race. Hope Oscar gets him a great apology gift.
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude Месяц назад
Apology is probably not the right word
@Azmania3000
@Azmania3000 Месяц назад
In footy, we aussies call that a bump. Here's a concrete pill mate 😂
@Kermit-The-Smaug
@Kermit-The-Smaug Месяц назад
@@RockSolitude it’s more of a combination gift, sorry for almost running you over, thank you for standing your ground gift
@Kuromori-v9z
@Kuromori-v9z Месяц назад
You mean if he didn't hold his ground?
@rtyler1869
@rtyler1869 Месяц назад
@@Azmania3000and that bump applies to all codes played down under
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe Месяц назад
If Lando doesn't figure out how to have a good first lap, he'll lose P2 in the WDC to Oscar by COTA
@SanchezS1998
@SanchezS1998 Месяц назад
If Lando loses 2nd in the WDC to Oscar, I doubt he’ll ever cede positions again.
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe Месяц назад
@SanchezS1998 he might be forced to. If (and it's a big if) Oscar can get closer to Max in points, McLaren would be stupid to not favour Piastri with strategies. The only reason why Lando is the number 1 driver is because of rankings, so if Oscar ends up higher, Lando has no bargaining power
@kokohanahana
@kokohanahana Месяц назад
kinda ironic that oscar is like on the other side of the spectrum when it comes to starts compared to lando
@Azmania3000
@Azmania3000 Месяц назад
I'm Australian, and a McLaren fan from the 90s. I hope Lando digs deep here, and this lapse into adversity makes him stronger. Seeing my local boy up is a thing, but watching Lando slide on lap 1 gives me vertigo. Let's see the summer break inject a bit of fire into his injectors
@motelghost477
@motelghost477 Месяц назад
@@SanchezS1998 Ceding position in Hungary won't be the reason why Lando loses 2nd.
@thrillathakilla
@thrillathakilla Месяц назад
Lewis has come full circle. He won the 2008 Belgian GP and was disqualified for his pass on Kimi, now he's re-interited it again
@wingsofheartproblems6400
@wingsofheartproblems6400 Месяц назад
Interesting fact you got there
@D4C_LoveTrain1
@D4C_LoveTrain1 Месяц назад
didn't he just get a 20s penalty? he was demoted to 3rd.
@charles-davidberube1174
@charles-davidberube1174 Месяц назад
@@D4C_LoveTrain1Lewis?
@yt_Ajay_
@yt_Ajay_ Месяц назад
He did. He finished 3rd in the end.
@charles-davidberube1174
@charles-davidberube1174 Месяц назад
@@yt_Ajay_ who?
@nickofzo
@nickofzo Месяц назад
Stroll moaning about the lack of topspeed.. while having the highest top speed.
@mattt525
@mattt525 Месяц назад
That is criminally bad lmao. Stroll is an ass I'm not sorry
@flak3720
@flak3720 Месяц назад
Was coming straight to the comments to see if anybody else was thinking the same thing.
@MahBones
@MahBones Месяц назад
Felt pretty sorry for George, makes the call, comes good, doesn't choke and everything looks pretty glorious. Must have been a pretty crippling gut punch.
@kevindwelle1625
@kevindwelle1625 Месяц назад
Honestly! George wasn't even in contention for the Win! Even Toto and Mercedes knew George would be compromised at the end of that race...
@wambugumassive
@wambugumassive Месяц назад
I don't. If he wanted to take a risk, he must be willing to accept the consequences of the gamble.
@RehanX44
@RehanX44 Месяц назад
took the risk paid the price i felt sorry for hamilton too who earned it
@Moray2023
@Moray2023 Месяц назад
​@@kevindwelle1625 so you are basically saying Mercedes intentionally sabotaged Russell again?
@CarimboHanky
@CarimboHanky Месяц назад
toto's reaction (lack off) was a telltale he knew something was wrong.
@darksider4736
@darksider4736 Месяц назад
My boy Oscar gonna be an ABSOLUTE MENACE on the second half of the season
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 Месяц назад
Oscar is going to be a WDC soon, my dear. Mark my words.
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 Месяц назад
​@@freyalove3831I just wrote down your comment in a notebook and marked it.
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 Месяц назад
@@daarom3472 I wish we could save our replies in RU-vid.
@robwhitmore3040
@robwhitmore3040 Месяц назад
@@freyalove3831 I really hope it's as soon as next year because 2026 regs might shake things up too much and I haven't got a lot of faith in McLaren to still be quick then
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 Месяц назад
@@robwhitmore3040 McLaren seems to get it together, 2026 is a different animal. With Piastri and Lando as a driver you have a chance your team wins. Whereas Ferrari carry with these terrible strategists, we are not going anywhere.
@florenceyared1797
@florenceyared1797 Месяц назад
a Note about Charles' top speed: this has nothing to do with set up, he was the only driver to never have DRS down the Kemmel straight while every other driver did at some point on low fuel in the race (he had DRS on HAM in some of the first few laps on the SF straight but because the Ferrari was very slow in La Source, he couldn't get DRS coming out of it). But still goes to show how strong his performance was that he was able to defend with no DRS with a slower car!!
@alexandergomez3574
@alexandergomez3574 Месяц назад
Insane that some people are calling George the cheater here. This is obviously on Mercedes. What do people think? George snuck into the garage in the middle of the night and started ripping chunks off his car? Lmao.
@Parker--
@Parker-- Месяц назад
It’s Delulu fans. What do you expect? For them to touch grass? 🤣 Legit though I promise they sent George death threats before he was DQ’d. #Blessed
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 Месяц назад
I think it's a very plausible story tbf. George is known to have a carbon craving and may have simply eaten part of his car. Then again the weight is measured including the driver so he'll have to have shed the carbon somehow.
@alexandergomez3574
@alexandergomez3574 Месяц назад
@@bniceuk8207 Alright, then by that logic, Lewis cheated in Austin 2023. Idiot.
@davidengelbrecht777
@davidengelbrecht777 Месяц назад
He's in on the plot
@camf7522
@camf7522 Месяц назад
4:10 Oscar has cracked the F1 tyre code.
@LawVS
@LawVS Месяц назад
No one is safe.
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 Месяц назад
​@@LawVSyou are in a simulation
@NeXMaX
@NeXMaX Месяц назад
DSQ aside, the fact that Mercedes was even fighting for a win on a weekend where they looked nowhere in the leadup to Sunday was a genuine surprise. They might be in for a good second half. Just don't lose more wins to technical breaches...
@RehanX44
@RehanX44 Месяц назад
they will keep losing as long as they let their driver orchestrate his own strategy out of nowhere they had no data whatsoever because they didn't run old setup on this track wo it was a real shot in the dark by russell
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 Месяц назад
​@@RehanX44 Merc'n own data said that Russel was going to get 5th at best, so why not try something wacky?
@clansome
@clansome Месяц назад
@@Appletank8 The reason that Merc's data pointed to fifth (I think third was probably more realistic tbh if he hadn't pushed the car so much), is due the lack of info on the effect of the resurfacing of part of the track. Full credit to him for throwing the dice but I believed he didn't lift and coast enough and had excessive tyre wear. My hindsight thought is that he should have let Lewis past whilst Piastri was still significantly behind and slipstreamed and used his DRS, as I said on another post "done a Songapore". Would have used less fuel too.
@GloomGaiGar
@GloomGaiGar Месяц назад
Merc never really show their hand in FP anyway
@kalashnidoge
@kalashnidoge Месяц назад
Piastri is getting too powerful. The Jack Man only felt 10% of his power and was nearly blown off his feet
@Steve46567
@Steve46567 Месяц назад
Oscar is like a rough diamond right now, has raw speed and some insane wheel to wheel racing talent. Needs a lot of polishing though. The last few races should be a wake up call for Norris as Oscar is closing in rapidly for that P2 spot in the championship.
@DaveOz-mx5oh
@DaveOz-mx5oh Месяц назад
Can see young Oscar's confidence growing in every race now, he's gonna be a weapon in 2025
@singular9
@singular9 Месяц назад
Piastri is gonna make norris look like an amateur soon.
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus Месяц назад
Oscar is pretty much equal with Max on around 114 points for the last 7 races and equal with Lewis on 80 points over the last 4 races. I think he can win the world championship this year but he will need to win 6 of the last 10 races. If McLaren doesn't continue to stuff up his pitt strategy you never know.
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 Месяц назад
Oscar is a cold headed and has the right stuff to be a WDC. I have seen this way before racing F1.
@wellbi
@wellbi Месяц назад
The overtake on Charles was "Oscar in a nutshell!". What a driver.
@jamaltahir6332
@jamaltahir6332 Месяц назад
Watching the entirety of the LawVs livestream yesterday made my day. You need to do more of them! I would genuinely watch those over the F1 post race show PS: thank you for staying in that toasty attic for an hour uninterrupted
@TyphoonUK
@TyphoonUK Месяц назад
In 1 day we get: Russel win and DSQ, Law livestream, 74.6K subscribers, Law Video and CARLOS TO WILLIAMS?!?!
@tobrinajolly3714
@tobrinajolly3714 Месяц назад
Holy heck I hadn’t heard that yet. Thanks!!
@Rimmy45
@Rimmy45 Месяц назад
and soon Logan to Mercedes
@rfldss89
@rfldss89 Месяц назад
All the strategies proposed by pirelli involved two stops. Anyone claiming this was an attempt by mercedes at sabotaging lewis in favour of george is a lunatic. George was the one to propose the one stop strategy anyways, if lewis felt his tires were healthy enough to risk a one-stopper, he should have insisted on it.
@x340x
@x340x Месяц назад
no one was claiming that, its only in his head
@rawallen9715
@rawallen9715 Месяц назад
@@x340xTeamLH was
@GloomGaiGar
@GloomGaiGar Месяц назад
@@rawallen9715 yeah but TeamLH are lizard people
@Parker--
@Parker-- Месяц назад
Nobody sane person believes Mercedes tried to sabotage Lewis’ race with bad strategy in favor of Russell. Only a completely delulusional boneheaded, egotistical narcissist/sycophant would believe that. So yeah Lewis and his glazers believe that.
@local321
@local321 Месяц назад
He did insist on it. He told his team multiple times his tires were fine.
@bomayevideos6537
@bomayevideos6537 Месяц назад
The slow down lap excuse makes little sense when you consider that others have done the 1 stop and weren't underweight at the end. Mercedes also tried to hide the issue by leaving fuel in the tank. Why would they do that?
@parkerj1232
@parkerj1232 Месяц назад
They're sneaky Krauts. Nothing ever changes. Lol
@sumandark8600
@sumandark8600 Месяц назад
It's crazy that tyres are included with the weighing of the cars The cars should be weighed without anything that changes in mass throughout the race: fuel, tyres, water, seats (since they weigh different amounts based on the driver as the seat + driver needs to weigh a minimum amount)
@shikharsingh2965
@shikharsingh2965 Месяц назад
Lewis was mad because he said that he wanted a one stop, as per the team meeting, and then Merc didn't even tell Lewis that George was taking the One stop, it should have been a choice for him because he really felt that he had tires, and he was not falling off, so it feels like a genuine thing. I don't understand the George hate but I really feel that Merc shot themselves in the foot, because they actually didn't expect George to have tires till the end. A real disconnect between the drivers and the pitwall, in my opinion.
@russ99a
@russ99a Месяц назад
Here’s the thing about this, their plan was always for Lewis to get P1 that’s why they pitted him, to get ahead of Leclerc. When George wanted to go one-stop, they worked out all the possibilities and thought the tires were going to fall off, but he had a shot at podium rather than p5 which is where he would have ended up. It’s George’s driving that made P1 possible and whatever they messed up to make his car 4lbs underweight.
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 Месяц назад
Yeah it was basically similar to the Mclaren situation last race except Merc did it accidentally. I don't hate George but it would definitely be easy to see why Lewis would not be happy with that situation if he'd requested to do the one stop before and was the quicker driver all weekend.
@charles-davidberube1174
@charles-davidberube1174 Месяц назад
⁠@@russ99ai agree but it proves the 1 stop was better. That means Mercedes should have told russel to let Lewis by as it was a bad strategy call to put Lewis on 2 stops. Lewis was the winner of the race through his qualifying and race pace.
@RehanX44
@RehanX44 Месяц назад
@@russ99ageorge driving didn't make p1 possible he should have been told to let hamilton through because hamilton was 8 tenths faster than him but as soon as he caught him he lost all the time in sector 2 because of russell's tire wake so it was not fair from the team, hamilton had to make sure piastri/leclerc/perez are kept behind the whole race, russell didn't do that if hamilton was p3 where he started then perez or leclerc would have rather gone onto one stop and made it work just like russell, hamilton made it possible for even russell to stay ahead of everyone else
@muntublackson4757
@muntublackson4757 Месяц назад
@@russ99a​​⁠​⁠he was leading he ce prioritised as the lead driver
@-syn9
@-syn9 Месяц назад
It seems weird that the tyres are included in the weight in a way
@photodave219
@photodave219 Месяц назад
This right here. The FIA should put their own specific measurement tires on the cars when they’re weighed.
@Dishanta_Goswami
@Dishanta_Goswami Месяц назад
A minute of silence for George
@nestorlarez336
@nestorlarez336 Месяц назад
Russell said to stewards "Weigh a minute" 🤣
@boltthybird8345
@boltthybird8345 Месяц назад
They did "accidently" leave 1.8 kg of extra fuel in the tank for the weighing and was subsequently drained after discovered by the stewards. They might have done the calculations wrong but they definitely knew they were underweight. I don't think they were underweight on purpose since all cars get weighted at the end.
@runfonkey
@runfonkey Месяц назад
Oscar Piastri is OP!! He’s the most exciting driver on the grid right now!!
@motelghost477
@motelghost477 Месяц назад
Lando fans, come back in 12 months and tell me that Lando is McLaren's number one driver.
@Moray2023
@Moray2023 Месяц назад
It's such a shame how the last few races have gone for George. George has been a decent chunk better across this season than lewis, but the team mates point battle has swung from a 26 point advantage to a 34 point disadvantage in 3 races. All 3 factors being a mercedes issue / miscalculation.
@Anna-gm6zy
@Anna-gm6zy Месяц назад
He has been very unlucky
@j.s3300
@j.s3300 Месяц назад
@@Anna-gm6zyAustria exists
@Anna-gm6zy
@Anna-gm6zy Месяц назад
@@j.s3300 yes?
@Jay-nk6dm
@Jay-nk6dm Месяц назад
True, he would be closer but Lewis would still hold the lead all things considered, especially if you play the what if game with Lewis DNF in Australia (yes Russell DNF but that was driver error)
@Moray2023
@Moray2023 Месяц назад
@@Jay-nk6dm an Alonso driver error however. Not a Russell one.
@flamingburritto
@flamingburritto Месяц назад
What makes me hesitant in feeling happy for Lewis is seeing how TeamLH reacted when George got the well deserved win. George showed an absolute masterclass in tyre management. And yet LITERALLY ALL the comments on posts by Merc on insta, fb, etc. ALL of them were vile, disgusting and toxic. Everytime I get impressed by Hamilton and I start to like him for his ability and racecraft, his Fandom just absolutely ruins it for me. I mean some of the things these people were saying I wouldn't say to my enemies. And they were saying those things about lewis' teammate. That's no way to act.
@meirl5700
@meirl5700 Месяц назад
TeamLH will not be able to cope when Ferrari strategy happens next year.
@OmegaGamingNetwork
@OmegaGamingNetwork Месяц назад
His fandom is like that because he is like that. He is a toxic activist and surprise surprise he attracts toxic activist fans.
@NeXMaX
@NeXMaX Месяц назад
TeamLH gives me an aneurysm. And I'm a Mercedes fan.
@daveruda
@daveruda Месяц назад
It wasnt a masterclass. He simply took at gamble, stayed out and anyone could have done it since the tyres did not degrade much at all. If u take a gamble you might win or loose but its not really on merit. He did nothing the entire race other than roll the dice since he had nothing to loose. But this time it lost him everything. Its just how gambles work
@andrehoward5130
@andrehoward5130 Месяц назад
Yea but you liking someone shouldn't be determined by the reaction of others.......
@jeditrooperteamjtt1484
@jeditrooperteamjtt1484 Месяц назад
6:34 the reason Leclercs Top speed was so because he was never in DRS range of anyone during the race, every time he got passed he fell a second behind
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 Месяц назад
Leclerc didn't put a fight with Hamilton, let Hamilton pass by it like nothing. Leclerc is not made to drive in F1.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 Месяц назад
I'm really happy about the words you spent on Ocon's situations, the guy is ridiculously underrated and over-hated, like, the dude will never get any credit no matter how right he is and how well he performs. I personally like his ruthless and no nonsense attitude of just trying to assert himself as much as he can both on track and in a team, while remaining more than fair most of the time. He is tough as nails but contrarily to what many people says, has mostly great race-craft.
@BlokeOnaBike45
@BlokeOnaBike45 Месяц назад
I don't think the overall hate is justifiable, however his decision making leaves something to be required of. He makes a lot of risky defensive maneuvers that have proven to be badly miscalculated time and time again and can ruin any potentially decent result he and/or his teammate could achieve. In my opinion this criticism is well deserved.
@Juants-sl6qe
@Juants-sl6qe Месяц назад
He does not remain "more than fair" most of the time. With every teammate he has had some type of unnecesary feud, coupled with some pretty dodgy race manouvers. He Is always more agressive with his teammates than he is with other drivers. As much as he has racecraft, he is a liability for every team and is chronically incapable of maximizing the team's chances at scoring points.
@desshinnick9365
@desshinnick9365 Месяц назад
Ocon rocks! I'm excited to see him at Haas.
@user-lo2nd6ux1b
@user-lo2nd6ux1b Месяц назад
I’m bothered by the fact that George was not in contention for driver of the day. Guy made the right call, drove beautifully, and was holding the lead and actually won. But nope let’s give it to Hamilton instead who didn’t do anything outstanding.
@Anna-gm6zy
@Anna-gm6zy Месяц назад
I don’t think he’s gotten driver of the day since he went to Mercedes. He didn’t even get it in Brazil 2022. People just don’t like him for some reason.
@scotturbanski740
@scotturbanski740 Месяц назад
I'm going to guess that people assumed that George was going to slip back into 3rd or 4th and that's why they didn't vote for him. I think Driver of the Day closes right at the conclusion of the race so it's not like people can vote after they saw the whole race.
@salim_abid_
@salim_abid_ Месяц назад
It’s hard to put him into contention without knowing the true extent the 1.5kg played into the race result. Maybe that 1.5kg made a bigger difference than you think, Maybe it didn’t but we don’t know.
@user-lo2nd6ux1b
@user-lo2nd6ux1b Месяц назад
@@scotturbanski740 the voting was still open when he was leading with 5 laps to go. From P7 to P1 in a one stop and people still voted for the guy who didn’t do anything impressive.
@user-lo2nd6ux1b
@user-lo2nd6ux1b Месяц назад
@@salim_abid_ bruh the voting is during the race not after 😂😂
@kwizzledizzle4513
@kwizzledizzle4513 Месяц назад
I'd call this a win for Max. Pole with almost 0.6 gap. Ended up in 4th in front of his direct rival Lando despite a 10 place grid penalty....🤷‍♂️
@fmondeo
@fmondeo 22 дня назад
Pretty much everyone (I was expecting Norris to win) anticipated that Max would blow by everyone else and get the lead by lap 20 or something, even though he never said he was in a position to do that himself
@TheXIIIking
@TheXIIIking Месяц назад
I feel for Checo. In the opening laps, he had power issues which I don't believe were ever fully resolved, he was also pitted a bit earlier than expected for his second stop. Given the body language of Checo and Max after the race. I think we already know that they've raced their last race together.
@arkangelarkangel1302
@arkangelarkangel1302 Месяц назад
It wasn't really tragic. .. it proved to me Piastri is on the hunt, and he's the driver with the highest upside coming into racing, and racing in Asia and the Americas, he's getting the most cheers here. 🎉
@martinavery3979
@martinavery3979 Месяц назад
George wasn't a loser, Mercedes was
@alanflynn1812
@alanflynn1812 Месяц назад
Charles low top speed was mostly due to him not getting DRS in the Kimmel straight at any time during the race!
@abel6846
@abel6846 Месяц назад
George didn’t cheat, nor does anyone remotely reasonable thinks that. His car failed to meet the post race requirements. That’s frustrating, but he will have gotten a confidence boost and confirmation that his judgement to go for a 1 stop was correct. In the long run, that is still a win.
@freyalove3831
@freyalove3831 Месяц назад
Not George. But Mercedes cheated.Even Toto knew something is up ( he was not smiling as usual when two Mercedes cars in the podium)
@abel6846
@abel6846 Месяц назад
@@freyalove3831 Merc didn’t cheat. They just hadn’t taken a 1 stopper into account. The longer stint meant less rubber on the tires at the end of the race (times 4), so someone probably told Toto they might be on the edge, hence the long face. Also, they couldn’t pick up rubber in the in lap, as per usual. 1.5 kilograms or, for our imperial friends, a little over 3 pounds is easily picked up by driving through the marbles. Failing a weigh in doesn’t automatically mean you’ve cheated, cheating implies intend and since the 1 stopper was George’s call, Merc aren’t to blame.
@ninjaa003
@ninjaa003 Месяц назад
As a McLaren fan, they did still botch the strategy, and not just by not trying a 1 stop. They didn't go for any undercuts with either driver, despite going onto hards after every stop. Also, I wouldn't say that Oscar has definitely solved his tire degradation problems, because one of the strengths of the McLaren car right now seems to be how it treats the tires (in most circumstances, but maybe not all). Lando definitely needs to get his starts sorted out though, as it's starting to get embarrassing for him.
@markjackson2652
@markjackson2652 Месяц назад
Toto knew. George wasn’t cheating but watch the end of the race again. Toto knew it was coming. Also they never expected George to be on the pod but Lewis was expected which is why Lewis’s car was good and George’s wasn’t
@cam3002
@cam3002 Месяц назад
As far as George and Mercedes goes, an obvious mistake but can understand how this could happen. As a club racer in the US, we roll over the scales after every race. Always a challenge to get it 100% correct so always error of the higher side by a few pounds. I find it easy to image that the one stop strategy coupled with SPA's quick exit post checkered flag (no cool down lap) played a major role. But then again, this is F1 and Mercedes should have not made such a simple and easy to avoid mistake.
@desshinnick9365
@desshinnick9365 Месяц назад
The mistake was they didn't plan on one stop.
@-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-
@-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.- Месяц назад
Thank you for condemning the completely uncalled for attacks on George and Mercedes. I’m a Mercedes fan so I love to see both drivers do well and was initially sad Hamilton was leaving. But after these past three years I’ll be glad to see teamLH leave to Ferrari. Like you said though I do feel bad for Charles, the Tifosi vs TeamLH will be brutal. Don’t think they’ll put up with it as much as Mercedes and Russell fans have.
@nickofzo
@nickofzo Месяц назад
Sainz officially signs with Williams
@macrossMX
@macrossMX Месяц назад
You mean Carlos officially Sainz with Williams. Then that means Logan is set to move to Indy with Prema. Wish Logan the best of luck on the 2nd half on a strong conclusion to his seaaon.
@hilm6245
@hilm6245 Месяц назад
Saw the notification, instantly clicked. This weekend was too spicy
@9108nedrfr
@9108nedrfr Месяц назад
As a Max fan I am quite relieved that Mercedes did well - either George or Lewis winning is not a bad thing at all. Also, I am quite relieved that there is a bit of a break now. These weekends have been a lot of fun to follow, but almost every race has been filled with controversy since Austria. :)
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 Месяц назад
Sorry but I don't buy the pickup thing being the reason the car was underweight. Alonso also did the one stop and his car wasn't underweight. If the margins were that fine I'm pretty sure a lot of other drivers would have got DQed too
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Месяц назад
Not all cars are weighed. It is random. Usually about 20% of the field. Hamilton's car checked after Russel's underweight. Driver's weight is part of car weight. Maybe Russell was sweating too much with Hamilton on his rear diffuser.
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Месяц назад
Drivers usually lose a couple of kgs during a race. Mercedes should have allowed for all variables. They know the regs, sign a statement saying they comply that is why no appeal. They stuffed up.
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 Месяц назад
@@AJames-jr8kw actually that's where you are wrong. ALL CARS are weighed after a race, same as all drivers are weighed.
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Месяц назад
@@kityhawk2000 Thanks for the correction. I was under a false impression after reading an article by an authoritative source on the internet about F1 post race scrutineering procedures. Incorrect info on the internet..who would have thought? On checking the published report from last years Austin GP. All finishing cars were weighed (17). The 3 non finishes were not. The other checks , and there were many, were more random. Easy checks were all cars while the more complicated checks less cars. The planks were measure just on 4. The podium finishes plus Charles (6th.). So thanks for putting me straight on that.
@jan.lotvall
@jan.lotvall Месяц назад
But I agree with you @LawVS, Piastri IS A FUTURE GOAT🐐
@D4C_LoveTrain1
@D4C_LoveTrain1 Месяц назад
very impressive seeing Piastri improve race after race. He really is showing why Mclaren snapped him up.
@elleonken7599
@elleonken7599 Месяц назад
Max saying he may not win another race this year, sounds like Hamilton complaining about his tires.
@michaelthomas2865
@michaelthomas2865 Месяц назад
Why are people talking about Russell's 1-Stop strategy - Russell got DISQUALIFIED; so talking about him is irrelevant.
@mattt525
@mattt525 Месяц назад
My heart breaks for Checo it does. I love him. I worry about seeing Danny in that car and Danny having the EXACT same problems as Checo. Potentially a problem with the car? Idk?
@doomfunk
@doomfunk Месяц назад
Seeing that speed trap graph and remembering Lance screaming about the bad straight line speed...
@spider_venom2377
@spider_venom2377 Месяц назад
Carlos Sainz just announced he is joining Williams from 2025 onwards
@sandraisaksson7853
@sandraisaksson7853 Месяц назад
As soon as Hamilton is doing bad you hear his fans saying "aaaah they're sabotaging him on purpose!", when this happened to George it's not sabotage, they blame him for sheeting. Blows my mind how the brains of these people work. People who think that George cheated don't know how F1 works.
@danieljardim5245
@danieljardim5245 Месяц назад
Thats TeamLH cult, they are quite lunatic. In their heads, if GR does better, there is no other option but sabotage against LH.
@qefa070
@qefa070 Месяц назад
@sandraisaksson7853 No one talking cheating, but sneaky move from Russell knowing his teammate was winning the race. That doesn't help Mercedes as a whole!!! He shouldn't had fought Hamilton when he got to him... I feel really sorry for George but that's life. We all pay the consequences of our actions
@danieljardim5245
@danieljardim5245 Месяц назад
@@qefa070 what was George's sneaky move? And you say he shouldnt have fought Hamilton? My friend, they are all competitive F1 drivers, they wont simply allow another to pass by unless the teams orders it, and the team allowed them to fight (as long as they didnt put each other at risk, which they didnt)
@Parker--
@Parker-- Месяц назад
@@qefa070”A 1-2 doesn’t help Mercedes as a whole.” Peak DeLulu d-rider logic. Sorry softshell, he didn’t fight Hamilton. He didn’t have to; Hamilton just straight up isn’t as good as his teammate on 230km old tires.🤗
@Parker--
@Parker-- Месяц назад
@@danieljardim5245he didn’t even fight him to begin with; he passed him while he was pitting and Hamilton didn’t know how to pass even though George put up minimal defense.
@OmegaGamingNetwork
@OmegaGamingNetwork Месяц назад
Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel I really do. But given his performance the past season and a half vs Yuki's performance on average..If he gets the 2nd RB seat over Yuki that will be a nearly unforgivable tragedy. RB have absolutely done Yuki dirty and I hope he finds a team willing to buy his contract out before 25. Yuki has more than at least earned a shot at driving on the main team and half a season is more than a reasonable try.
@danrandan16
@danrandan16 Месяц назад
tbf i do think this years red bull is very similar to the brawn gp - dominant at the start then fades away
@user-qx4bp5rf3n
@user-qx4bp5rf3n Месяц назад
Perez to Audi would be a great marketing drive.
@jonlamontagne
@jonlamontagne Месяц назад
From what I heard if George pit it was for net position 5th if he attempted the one stop it was a net position of 5th or better. I do think it was a spur of the moment thing but Merc has ALWAYS done the same strategy for both cars when going for a win. I think that is why Lewis was so upset with the team as it looked like they pulled one over on him and gave the win to George. In the end he got the win but I think after he reviews the data and if what Merc was saying was truthful he will be able to understand. Not that he will be happy but will not feel so betrayed.
@Cecil97
@Cecil97 Месяц назад
dont know why some Lewis fans act like Jos for Max, slightest thing that doesn't go their way and its sabotage and unfair.
@andrehoward5130
@andrehoward5130 Месяц назад
Fair enough..... but if lewis said he wanted the one stop before the race and was denied then comes Russell and suggested it during the race and got it they may have grounds for it I guess.
@Cecil97
@Cecil97 Месяц назад
@@andrehoward5130 right so its either the strategist makes the call based on the data they have or they spell the whole picture of the field to Hamilton and have him pick but then people will complain that they are overwhelming him with info. I wonder when F1 will have HMD for the drivers so the radio isn't jammed up with time gaps and other peoples tires, they can just get a wide picture with a quick glance.
@andrehoward5130
@andrehoward5130 Месяц назад
@@Cecil97 yea can only hope.
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 Месяц назад
Not quite sure why you guys immediately call out fans for the team screwing up. Don't remember seeing this last week with Oscar and Lando fans and that was a very similar situation. Mercedes basically did what Mclaren did except they did it accidentally. That's the long and short of it. As for hating on Lewis fans or George fans or Lando fans or Oscar fans I think you are all as dumb as each other but it's pretty easy to see why any driver would not have been happy if they had been in Lewis position similar to how its easy to see why Oscar and Lando weren't happy last race.
@Rindiculousfun
@Rindiculousfun Месяц назад
George Russell drove the race of his life and got it stolen away from him. Even a day later I feel so bad for him and such a great race is completely marred and unsatisfying. Hamilton drove an excellent drive though and was one of the three drivers who all deserved the win. Both Merc drivers drove out of their mind this race. Those two and Piastri were just in a league of their own. Also, when I saw 'box, box' for Piastri, watching at home I audibly said, "Nooooo" because it really felt like the one stop could work just looking at how little deg in lap times they had to that point. Oscar had even recently just set the fastest lap of the race despite others just pitting.
@Dayne-Lua
@Dayne-Lua Месяц назад
I think the F1 gods want to punished George Russell for Perez not performing well recently which could explain Russell all bad luck in the last 3 races.
@harry4454
@harry4454 Месяц назад
Leclerc was so slow because he’s the only one who never had drs the whole race
@slainehalouze7775
@slainehalouze7775 Месяц назад
I wish you would have realised the Ocon situation before and not just follow other british media's claims. Especially about Viry-Châtillon and Enstone's responsibilities in the poor car. The garbox mount issues for example. These are mounted by the Enstone guys, not the engine suppliers. The engine, as seen as Spa for example, is not as slow as it's rumoured to. The thing it most lacks is reliability.
@Jw1212Jw
@Jw1212Jw Месяц назад
Sainz to Williams😭
@tychopolak4961
@tychopolak4961 Месяц назад
Bro, Verstappen should be in the Winners, he went from p11 to p4
@racing1000
@racing1000 Месяц назад
Stroll complaining about speed on the straights when he went fastest through the speed trap 💀
@dvs9019
@dvs9019 Месяц назад
Would have been hard for Piastri to get past the two Mercedes. Clean air being king, the dirty air effect and the effective DRS train would have hampered his efforts. Lewis was taking 7 tenths out of George and still couldn't get past
@ghostofakina3138
@ghostofakina3138 Месяц назад
I feel like I live in your attic and you just come up to passionately talk about F1 every so often 😂 I loved the livestream yesterday too!
@TeddyBongo-zf1ih
@TeddyBongo-zf1ih Месяц назад
George broke the rules. Consequences. This has happened to Lewis, Charles and other racers in the past; where were the excuses then? Let's roll with it. Thems the brakes, and there should be no whining. It's about the rules! Piastri and Ricardo are aces!
@Poorschedriver
@Poorschedriver Месяц назад
George was 100% in the winners here; it's mercedes that's the loser. George had the foresight to brave the 1 stop, he drove a smart race and then managed to hold off Lewis Hamilton for over 4 laps with far fresher tires. How can he be a loser? My jaw was on the groud, it was a world-class drive. I'm truly gutted for the end result, he earned every bit of that win.
@qefa070
@qefa070 Месяц назад
So Mercedes allowed Hamilton and Russell to race when they knew Russell had almost six plus seconds on Hamilton... No Matter what you say, Hamilton was by far the best driver and faster on the conventional strategy. Russell gambled his way to first knowing it was against his teammate and he lost. So congratulations to Russell for his bold move but at the end it was LH race not his. Feel free to disagree with me!!!
@Jem1381
@Jem1381 Месяц назад
not Stroll complaining about top speed and getting the highest top speed
@Marbeary
@Marbeary Месяц назад
What is with Mclaren drivers overshooting their pits??
@photodave219
@photodave219 Месяц назад
Lewis lost a win a Spa due to a penalty, he inherited this one from a DQ. Balances out in the world of Karma… Great drives by both George & Lewis.
@ohdearabier8280
@ohdearabier8280 Месяц назад
Despite obviously being devastated for George (He's one of my favourite drivers) a genuine question and pinch for thought here. Why does the FIA weigh cars with tires on? I mean that makes little, to no sense to me. Because that is not really the weight of the car when it's racing. Picking up the marbles on the cooldown lap is essentially something that the teams do to prevent from being caught 'cheating'. But that happens like every single Grand Prix and every single team is doing it. Despite this it's also bound to be inconsistent at times imo. Maybe some tires pick up fewer marbles than others for some reason. Why don't they just take off the tires and weigh the actual car?
@tristanskipworth4377
@tristanskipworth4377 Месяц назад
I hope Lando gets some time to grieve and recoup and come back and smash a 1-2 for McLaren at the Dutch GP
@zgrb
@zgrb Месяц назад
Still seems strange that they exclude some consumables, like fuel, in the final weigh in, but include others like tires. Surely the “weight reduction” of the tires does more harm than good?
@sethhill5689
@sethhill5689 Месяц назад
I have to wonder if RB has adjusted the car to Daniel's liking as of Canada, possibly to save him from being let go, at the expense of Yuki (because he has the contract extension).
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Месяц назад
No, Daniel has actually helped Yuki. Through his experience he was able to give VCarb (according to team boss) valuable setup feedback which Yuki could not. Ironically Yuki was able to make better use of this earlier.
@BruceKarrde
@BruceKarrde Месяц назад
I am not at all a fan of George - I've often called out his whiney and nagging behaviour on the radio. Or just even his entitlement to race victories since joining Mercedes. However, this was so sad to see! We only get treated a few times a year when the driver changes the strategy on the spot and gets a victory. Your explanation of having changed parts sounds possible. But ... correct me if I'm wrong: They weighed the car after the race and then discovered there was some fuel still in there. Only after that fuel was also extracted, the car was too light. If this is true, Mercedes should be investigated for tampering with evidence. This is why parc ferme exists and why drivers aren't allowed to touch other cars. As for Perez - he needs to go. He's been a good driver, a good defender, and played an absolute critical role in some races. However, we cannot deny how bad his other races were. In 2022 he was angry at Max for not helping him at Interlagos - but that was his own fault for underperforming to the point that Hamilton got 2nd. In 2023 he even barely made 2nd place! His crashes also play a part here. He had 4 crashes this year already.
@DB-a-Boeing-Dr
@DB-a-Boeing-Dr Месяц назад
Had a awesome weekend hanging out with the VCARB and Rodin boys and girls. Caught up with Liam over a few coffees and I must say he was the most positive I have seen him in a while and he has picked up some new sponsors as well. The Danny Ric side of the garage had a completely different vibe to it and this was even before a wheel was turned on track so I think decisions had been made before the weekend. No matter what happens it seems Danny Ric has a seat next year.
@sujjo
@sujjo Месяц назад
To add to your point about Oscar's tyre management skills, it's time for Mclaren to be ruthless and uncompromising and as I see it, only Oscar seems to have got the memo for that! After the summer break, I see a realaxed Oscar Piastri having a surge of good form and results. I think Ricciardo is gonna take the Red Bull seat after Mexico. Perez would likely decline to drive the VCARB so Lawson will get that seat.
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude Месяц назад
The mistake is listening to Lewis fans in the first place and not actively dismissing what they say. The second mistake is giving credence to anything Lewis says when he's not happy with the result after the race. He moans and runs his mouth at his team like he's a schoolgirl. None of what Lewis said was correct. He reminds me of Lando in a lot of ways when it comes to strategy, except Lando is honest and does not needlessly cast aspersions against his team.
@jennstewart3003
@jennstewart3003 Месяц назад
My thoughts: Gutted for George. I think about the Oscar and tire management actually might still be an issue because he's doing well when there's multiple stop races.
@jandres0402
@jandres0402 Месяц назад
And also his surprise when he learned George pulled that one-pit stop strat tells us that Oscar admits he cannot pull it off and probably I wouldnt say McLaren was being conservative. But in the case of Norris, they could've probably considered it. I am an OP fan but thought MCL strat team couldve helped Lando witha one pit stop strat.
@sethhill5689
@sethhill5689 Месяц назад
Considering all the penalties that you can get over pit crew safety, I'm surprised that there is no penalty for what Oscar did.
@metooidiot
@metooidiot Месяц назад
CARLOS JUST SIGNED WITH WILLIAMS LAW THIS IS NOT A DRILL
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 Месяц назад
Man, play the pit strategy, run a nearly perfect race, only to get DQ'd, thats brutal!
@gbrodriguez2279
@gbrodriguez2279 Месяц назад
I doubt it's a shootout, rather than an opportunity to get photos of the drivers in the cars and uniforms. It's more believable that the decision is made rather than a actual shootout for the RBR seat.
@landiahillfarm6590
@landiahillfarm6590 Месяц назад
WHAAAAA...??? DQ for George??? Thats a real nut cruncher, he drove a BRILLIANT race. I do appreciate how in Mercedes each half of the garage gets to call it's own shots and yesterday's race was a pure example of why that is the way it should be. Poor data on Friday, nada on Saturday so now it's up to the DRIVERS to make the call. And George made the right call, I dont care what anyone says. As for McLaren, Oscar is THE new "iceman". He showed a little vulnerability last week when Lando was baiting him to catch up [as well he should] but post race adbitted he made it harder for the team than he should. Total class, this kid, I hope he sticks around F1 for a long time.
@octavio.santos
@octavio.santos Месяц назад
George was a winner. His was a world champion's race. And I'm still waiting for mister "The next Alain Prost" to win his first race on merit.
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas Месяц назад
I'm dont agree the RB is not the best car anymore. If Perez can put it anywhere near pole then that's a damn good car.
@desshinnick9365
@desshinnick9365 Месяц назад
Your source on Daniel and what we observe is that he seemed overly cheerful. Has Horner had a little word in his ear? Which means he gets a VCARB spot and Liam gets parked for the rest of the year. Horner's decisions seem to be I will do the opposite of what Marko wants. Which means Lawson could be out and Hadjar in for next year. Horner really needs to be removed from the team.
@HammerHeart3229
@HammerHeart3229 Месяц назад
I'm genuinely gutted for Russell. He's shown in the past that he's pretty good at taking the strategy into his hands and making it work for him, he did that in spades at Spa and he didn't choke under the pressure when defending from Hamilton. I don't understand the people claiming George was cheating though when it was a Mercedes cock-up! It's not like George decided himself to run his car under weight while twirling a fake moustache! Is it just me too or did Toto Wolff not look particularly happy after the chequered flag? I thought he would have been a bit more animated that both his cars crossed the line 1-2, his reaction seemed a bit odd to me.
@marco_1909
@marco_1909 Месяц назад
Am surprised people are still shocked with the toxicity online. IMHO, Admittedly Lewis fans are the most toxic on line, Max fans is second but they are mostly dumb or just children(Add Lando's here).Lec is third but its undercover becaude he isnt at the front.Just wait till next year when the lewis and lec go head on. You'll see what toxicity is.
@InfiniteSuccessAcademy
@InfiniteSuccessAcademy Месяц назад
Let's face it - Mercedes screwed it up (read - cheated!). When they weighed George's car it was right on the minimum weight. When Mercedes was asked if they drained the fuel, they said yes, the tank is empty. Upon checking the fuel tank the scrutineers found there was still 2.8 liters of fuel still in the tank. Once the 2.8 liters were drained out, the car was under weight. I feel for George, but this has happened before, most recently with Vettel and Ricciardo. The team is always at fault. The drivers just drive, there's no fuel gauge in the car. Mercedes should be fined severely for cheating, and Toto severely reprimanded. What's up with Toto lately? Is he losing it, or just to focused on trying to sign Max or Antonelli?
@BasicBodThor
@BasicBodThor Месяц назад
What I don't understand is: If the tire wear was such that it accounted for 1.5kg of weight discrepancy (so let's assume the tires actually lost more than 1.5kg of weight assuming the team would have had a bit of a buffer to the weight limit), how did George then have the grip to keep Lewis from passing for 2-3 laps when Lewis was like 0.7 seconds a lap faster to that point? Were the hard tires just goated that day? Even if you want to say George's care was lighter the whole race (not from tire wear) the fact remains that Lewis was way faster then him, until he caught up
@stuffilike4498
@stuffilike4498 Месяц назад
I think the story will be the GR garage lost track of all the changes they were making to car specification (wings/floors/bodywork etc) and an error of 1 to 2 kg crept in to the calculations. GR and LH had different set up, GR was quick in S1+3 so he could out run DRS. LH was quick in S2 but you can't overtake there.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter Месяц назад
Russell was underfuelled for quali in Hungary and had a mysterious water leakage problem in his home GP on Silverstone, and then the car too light, so that is 2 races in a row that Mercedes messes up his race. And then it's Hamilton who experienced nothing like that was talking about sabotage? I don't see how this will boost Hamilton's confidence. He knows he has still never beaten Russell to a win in the past 2.5 years, he knows Russel had the best of, he knows he failed to pass Russell allthough he had 4 long laps and almost a second more pace, he knows Russell again took the initiative while he is not good at that all, he knows he was free to race Russell, a favour done by the team basically, and squandered it. Yes, technically it is a win but he knows he was beaten by his teammate again like the whole year, it's not a confidence booster.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 Месяц назад
Hamilton has showcased tremendous race-craft more often than not since 2022 and clearly has showcased being the more consistent and better Mercedes driver. Russell has spiky inputs that shows in the races, particularly when he is under pressure.
@charles-davidberube1174
@charles-davidberube1174 Месяц назад
A lot of misinformation in your comment. Lewis made a joke of russel last year. Lewis was on a testing path in 2022 but still caught up to russel at the end. Russel does out qualify Lewis more often but to a trade-in of less race pace than Lewis. Lewis was faster than George all weekend and it was a commun statement between all drivers that passing this weekend was almost impossible because the dirty air was very high. In the end, we found out George had a huge advantage by being underweight, giving extra pace and less stress on tires. Don’t get me wrong, russel is a very good driver and pushes himself to extreme limits but sometimes going too far. Lewis is more consistent and it gives him better results and less incidents.
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 Месяц назад
Lewis overtook George in Silverstone for the win before George suffered a water problem. And in Hungary George still could have put in a good first lap but didn't. Lewis first lap was still quicker than George's. George didn't get a chance for another run but he was still slower in the first run. As for Spa George was the slower driver all weekend he only got ahead due a hail mary strategy that even his own team didn't think would pay off otherwise they'd have put Lewis on it too.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter Месяц назад
@@kityhawk2000 No, Hamilton was slightly quicker in specific track conditions early in the race, whether Russell was already suffering from the leak or not was not clear. Mercedes didn't give him the chance to fight back so we don't know who would have been faster over the whole race. No, Russell was the faster driver throughout Spa practice just like most of the season, just not in the slightly wet conditions of quali. Russell was screwed in Hungary, drivers do more runs for a reason. Russell was not put on a one stop strategy, he pitted early like it was a two stop strategy, than he changed the strategy because of his tyre feedback and that left him with a huge job to do, which he did. Still Hamilton had the best strategy because he was allowed to attack Russell and had four long Spa laps and an alsmot 1 second pace advantage to do so, but he failed.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter Месяц назад
@@charles-davidberube1174 Never in history so much nonsensen had to be made up for a great driver. When Russell was first and the idiotic Hamilton is testing things wasn't made up yet he was mister consistency because the British hanged on to the Hamilton is superfast myth. Then they started focussion on points because Russell had some costly mistakes and had a race ruined by Hamilton crashing into him. And now he's simply faster again Hamilton is the consistent one? He's not, over the past 2.5 years he has made more errors and blunders than Russell, despite Russell making passing moves instead of wating for DRS.
@tamstutz921
@tamstutz921 Месяц назад
Sainz signs with Williams for '25 and beyond. New video coming??
@JayQ2k
@JayQ2k Месяц назад
In the losers column: The race itself. EDIT: Checo's last race....That aged well.
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Месяц назад
So Checo stays at RedBull for rest of '24. I guess the "photo shoot" b/w DR and Liam on Wednesday is to sort out next year. My speculation is 1) Current RedBull tricky to drive, both Checo and Max complained so no garantee Daniel would do any better so keep Checo in seat for moment and keep his Mexican sponsors happy. 2) Benchmark DR and Liam in same car at same time. Regardless keep Daniel in VCarb until end of '24. He was probably the bait for Visa's millions. If Liam shows he has the goods, promise him the 2nd VCarb seat for '25. 3) Last 10 races in '24 effectively becomes an audition for the 2nd RedBull seat between DR and Checo. One will lose. On current form DR may have the edge but this season has proved nothing is certain. Anything is possible.
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw Месяц назад
4) Max goes to Mercedes and RedBull needs DR and Checo. Though maybe Bottas if Checo slump continues.
@EleanorBlythe
@EleanorBlythe Месяц назад
There was definitely something else, because none of the drivers could go round and collect marbles and no one else was underweight that bad. Possible from the changes made to his car on Friday??
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus Месяц назад
As soon as they pitted piastri for a two stop I knew it would be tough for him to win but he nearly won anyway if not for a long pittstop and Charles holding him up. I think McLaren might have cost oscar another win by being conservative and worrying about redbull. He was ahead of Russell by around 6 seconds when they pitted oscar so I don't think Russell was running him down.
@kjusticeg1
@kjusticeg1 Месяц назад
Somebody's getting to get fired for missing a couple of screws on George's car. 😂
@Arnaud58
@Arnaud58 Месяц назад
@19:01All the tyre crap is just a smoke-screen, a diversion of attention. And with you, it worked... I just feel sorry for GR. It's just all on the team. Worse still. The car was weighed at least 4 times. The first time the car was exactly on the weight limit of 798 kg... What a strange coincident...👴🤨 After, as the rules are, the fuel was removed(2,8 Liter) the car was 1,5 kg too light. Am I the only one that finds this at the very least a bit sketchy, strange or suspicious from the team... 👴🧐 Did you see the reaction of TW when GR crossed the line... He was not a happy camper, at all!👴❌
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