@theredline fiat has really dropped the ball communicating their lease deals to local dealers. I recently reserved the new "Inspired by Beauty" rose gold trim via the Fiat USA website, which also advertised $7500 credit when leasing via Stellantis. However, after meeting the local dealer this past week, they knew nothing about the new trims or lease deals, and quoted lease at over $600/month WITH TRADE. Which is insane. Local dealers are flying blind, and Fiat U.S. sales and leases are going to suffer again as a result.
Style is subjective, but in my opinion the 500 has always stood out. Unfortunately the price/performance/range combo they've put together sounds like it'll be a really tough sell. If GM sticks with the original Bolt's value proposition with the next gen Bolt the 500e is toast.
After putting a deposit down for a pre-order of the new rose gold trim, a local dealer recently quoted me over 600/mo for lease. Fiat USA has not been giving local dealers updated info on lease deals, even though their official website advertises a huge credit through Stellantis. So, how in the world am I (or anybody) suppose to feel comfortable putting a deposit down on an already-overpriced car when dealerships don't have accurate finance numbers yet? Asinine marketing and pricing from Fiat, really dropped the ball, even for those of us who love them (previous 500 Pop and Abarth owner).
I say this as a long time Fiat fan, having owned both a 500 Pop and Abarth: pricing on these new 500e's are borderline offensive. I never thought I'd wish for Fiat to fail, but if this is their marketing strategy, they deserve to. And it makes me sad to write that, since I was genuinely excited for these before they announced pricing.
that’s stellantis for ya. you can buy a $50k jeep compass and my dads 22 gcl overland was $62k new (already expensive) and if you build and price the exact same vehicle in the 24 model year it’s nearly $70k it’s insane what they’re doing to their car prices
come si puo augurare il fallimento di una azienda non pensi alle famiglie dei lavoratori impara a rispettare il lavoro di altri, puoi non essere d accordo ma nessuno ti sta obbligando a comprare questa auto , quindi cresci e non essera infantile
@maurizio9703 you completely missed the point. It's not the job of consumers to accept a good or service that is overpriced and poorly marketed. Even if they're a fan of the brand or company (which I am). It's the job of consumers to let a company know their marketing and pricing is insane in a given segment. Which Fiat USA's is. "Wishing them to fail" is in reference to the U.S. specifically, as they're positioning this release terribly, and clearly not listening to or learning from feedback in this market from consumers who WANT the new 500e.
I have 2015 Fiat500e. It’s such a fun car. It’s perfect commuting car. It’s with me for last 9 years. Zero maintenance , no break down , still on original breaks in 9 years.but it’s weird they don’t have heated seat. My 9 year old 500e has heated seats.
Investment for NA market is minimal for them. This car has been on sale in Europe for a few years and is a best seller. I heard they only launched the 500e here as there will be a gap between the outgoing Mini Electric and the J01 in 2027. The people who are getting a 500e arent cross shopping a Model 3 or Similar
It’s such a cute car, and great for a teens first car (driving test car), easy to park, short commutes or live in a small town. For me I would pay no more then 20k for it
So it gained nothing when changing to EV only. Its power to weight is worse , it gained no space inside because it got bigger not because its an EV.. Got more expensive, less range snd now you have to charge it instead of 3 minutes at a gas station. Nice
Yeah, now it’s just a fun, zippy, nearly zero maintenance city car 😡 For someone in the city, this makes perfect sense. Yeah the range isn’t huge, but I don’t think the buyers of previous 500’s were going on lots of road trips in them 🥴 Also, most people don’t even know how to check their oil, let alone keep up on regular maintenance, so having a vehicle that really doesn’t need any maintenance is a huge plus 🤷🏻♂️
@@gratigo1 Charging infrastructure in the city? Run errands, drive to the charging station, wait b/c fast charging is not recommended too often, then drive home and try to parallel park somewhere near your apartment. Or, take a Lyft.
$35,000 and not even a drivers power seat? Hard plastic door cards? It’s going to be a hard sell against a model 3 that’s now the same price. Stellantis is out of their mind.
My ONLY let down, is honestly the range. I owned a 2015 500e and the car was super good for us, but holy the ev range was quite bad if you desperately needed to do a longer commute. Wish it was at 200 miles But i also hope the 149 miles is more true, because the old one had 89 miles but often fell short
Thumbs up on your thorough reviews as always 👍💙. Thumbs down and falling short on this vehicle in every. single. aspect; to say the least. There is nothing to sway consumers towards this purchase despite identity, will be sad to see Fiat's cheeky little personality exit US streets. However, design, Fiat 🤌
We had an ICE 500 and found it to be a pretty fun car around town. We would be a candidate for this but the pricing is silly. Just look at those door panels - it should be a 25K car.
Man, evs are just super expensive. I feel like the government should make a tax credit for smaller evs. They are actually better for the environment then these huge 3 ton ev monster suvs.
Yes i am agree 34 is f toooooo much no more 20k for electric golf car, actually this two seat car , can not be use in winter , cheep plastic , kids car.
Cute car for nearly $600/month lease or $37k purchase for the Inspired by Music model with JBL sound. Agree with others this is priced to appeal to no one but wealthy looking for an attention grabbing toy for LA or Miami after which it will be sold used for $15k in a year. Hyundai/Kia, GM offer better options with BMW/Mini soon. Wish Fiat luck with this one.
32000 nice car got old 500 2017 for $15000 manual transmission one 40+ around town see bigger now. That would work around town for kids to school and work. And my wife she can drive work just 10 miles so just changing at home.
Good review as always, but from my personal opinion, I would still consider buying a combustible engine for example either a rogue or the new Nissan kicks come on let’s face it , less than five minutes gets you a full tank of of gas and you can get 300 miles out of the vehicle. That is the convenience! There’s too many negatives with the EV trade-off . Sorry! 🤷♂️
Excuse me, affordable, inexpensive car? This should be priced at $20K max. I paid $34K for a car that offers superior performance and numerous features. At its current price, this model is unlikely to succeed unless the cost is brought down to around $20K or less. What was this guy thinking? I owned the previous generation gasoline 500, which was reasonably priced at under $14,000. This new generation feels more like a luxury toy for the wealthy rather than an affordable option for urban workers. It's disappointing because I love the styling and would definitely consider buying one if it were priced appropriately.
I feel bad for the dealers especially the ones that are detached and don't have any brand other than Fiat. Hopefully some more models come to the US cause an overpriced little electric car that is going to live or die by lease deals is not going to cut it. The Fiat lineup with the X, L, 124 and the regular 500 were not awful but in typical Stellantis fashion they did next to nothing to update these models and just let them die on the vine.
Is it possible for Fiat to do anything correct for the U.S. market. City cars with a short EV range does nothing for most Americans who travel all over long distances for work and other things. The next issue is a small car for 34k will not sell. You have to price these cars a lot cheaper in price. This car is only worth 25k fully loaded
I think you should knock off the frunk schtick. The "million dollar question about EVs" is not the frunk - there are much more important questions about any EV.
0-60 in like 9 secs.... god dam whats the fun of having a electric small car if its soo meh. meh on power, meh on speed, meh on range, meh on features. like good god their like 5-10 years too late