The 2024 Subaru BRZ tS is the BEST BRZ | Track Test 

I agree. There is aftermarket if you want more power.

both toyota and subaru have advanced 4wd turbocharged machines, lets keep the brz/86 simple, NA and RWD.

Anthony, You are not alone. Most people who have driven a BRZ appreciate the advantage of lightweight for handling. Adding a turbo would change the nature of the car. Adding more power would likely require a taller engine which would mess up the center of gravity. A more powerful and heavier car would be far less fun to drive on real roads. It might win more stop light drag races and be better for top speed at a track but it would be less fun.

@@Andrew-zs5tc yup, 6.1 0-60 is plenty quick for having a good time on backroads, and you don't even have to commit felonies to access the cars limits.

​@@anthonydietmeier65246.1 is fast for a 4 cylinder that's impressive! V8s use to do 0-60 in 6 seconds come on people 😂

To be frank, I would rather see these cars live and commuter ones get replaced by EVs.

You misspelled “Hair stylist”.

My 2014 Fiesta ST with a stage two Cobb Tune and sticky Michelin Pilot Sport tires, I can hang with all the cars you just mentioned. The Fiesta Flash

@@Chewygsxr and your point is?

@@ruturaj47 he bought the wrong car.

A true Legend!

Ha, "carnival barker style!" I grew up watching Motorweek on PBS every week as a kid. It was one of my favorite shows. What I've come to realize, especially in comparison to the new crop of "CarTubers" is that MW is no longer must-see TV for me.

How fun is it to drive? How’s gas? Premium only? How slowly or fast does it burn. What’s the costs like for repairs and oil? It’s my dream car

@@szn1580If you live near fun roads (or do track or auto-x), it is amazing to drive. Just enough power from a responsive 7400 rpm NA engine paired with a lightweight, balanced chassis and RWD/LSD. As a former track instructor, it's the kind of chassis I'd recommend to students to grow and develop skills on - it offers the tools to teach you everything you need to know about driving fast and finding the limits. Gas is premium only. My average gas mileage is poor (high teens), but my driving is probably not representative. I've seen other owners baby their BRZ/GR86's and get 26-28 mpg. I do my own maintenance so I don't know dealer costs, but all the basic maintenance is easy other than spark plugs (also not hard, just more involved than on typical I4 engines due to flat-4 design). Oil is normal synthetic 0w20. Would recommend 5w30 for any serious driving (0.5q overfill if you track). If you have a good mechanic who works on Japanese cars, maintenance should be pretty cheap. Overall it's one of my favorite cars. Of cars I've owned and/or tracked, I'd put the 2nd gen BRZ in my top 5 (along with the s2000, e46m3, 987.2 Boxster S and 986 Boxster S).

@@szn1580cheap to own. I’m getting 26mpg mixed right now. Oil change costs $40 if you do it yourself. Filters on rock auto are cheap. If you keep the car stock they’re inexpensive to own.

@@dillon_r_hansenhow fun are they

@@szn1580 that’s just a silly question haha. RWD, LSD, lightweight, manual gearbox is fun everytime.

Testers keep complaining about the earth moving while driving the new tS.

Is the 2.5L in the Crosstrek Wilderness not the same? Or like a relative to that engine?

They have an FB25 I believe. And this motor needs to make it's way in the impreza rs. With a 6 speed ​@@wsgut123

Second this.

Nope. The solution is to K-swap it. 😂

900brz seems to have fixed it on his car.

Nope they absolutely haven’t

900BRZ released the video of solution, and it's bigger oil pan.

Put down the pipe.

? You’re not into drivers cars?

There is no STI anymore, meaning there’s no STI sales…which shows you have no idea what you’re even talking about.

The old gt86 had Coyote V8 swaps. If someone really wants to they can probably fit a V8 in a GR86

If you switch to Toyota - 2.5L is the choice

Yeah, I think the brakes and suspension package alone make this a worthwhile upgrade. I don't think you could do those things on your own for the premium they are charging.

@@ragweedmakesmesneezesupposedly there will be a conversion package available at dealers for the brakes, but can’t imagine it will be cheap if it does happen.

@@ragweedmakesmesneezewouldn’t make any difference to me. I’ve driven this thing all over the country, including on the tail of the dragon, Cherohala Skyway, Iron mountain road and the mountain roads around Yellowstone, not once did could I unsettle the car no matter how hard I pushed it. Now if I were to track the car, I’m sure it would be a whole different ball game.

And they’re crap. Hyundai had monobloc Brembos on the Genesis coupe 15 years ago. I had an STi at the time and I was floored at how much better brake feel in my buddy’s Genesis was. I’d rather get a lightly used BRZ and put some real track-worthy Stoptechs and adjustable Ohlins on it.

@@EUC-lid Genesis is junk

@@allentoyokawa9068 Yet, better brakes than anything Subaru has ever released. Weird.

It's Z. 😉

They only ship about one per county in the US per year and they are sold before they show up at the dealership.

I would buy factory parts for suspension, if it blows then it gets ohlins.

No boot and or storage space and a very cramped interior ruled the MX5 out for me.

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I've asked the same question to just about every automaker on the planet. Still waiting for answers.

Factor in the inflation, then it's cheaper.

im not gonna hold i think you may see one soon

wrong

Very much true actually. By the base model, AP racing brakes, quality coilovers, lighter wheels and some Bride or Recaro seats. That setup would gap the TS by huge margins around a circuit.

@@RedC63AMG I'm personally partial to OMP seats, pedal covers and steering wheels. They have been proven in rallying and other motorsports for decades.

“Just buy a more expensive car bro “ lmao I love the supras tho. You own one?

Just get both. And an additional Z4/Miata combo for top down motoring.

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If it made more power it would explode, this is subaru we are talking about lmao

Which RWD sports car adds a higher performance version and it's only a $2600 difference??? 😂 these new RU-vid carguys aren't very bright

⁠@@ftr911drvrso make it $4k more. Those broke RU-vid guys aren’t very bright.

None of you have ever been on a track. No auto x racing or road racing. It’s easy to see.

It really would be a winner with a turbo Toyota 4 pot. I don't want that boxer 🗑️

and? That is cheap and worth every penny

@@allentoyokawa9068 troll

@@allentoyokawa9068 not really no specially with an engine that cant take right turns unless u just buy it to pose and rice it out this cars have been the biggest disappointment with us actual track goers i almost Bought one luckily went the miata route

Don't care.

Have you driven one? If not I agree there are a lot of better options if you only look at spec sheets. Honda and Acura don’t sell a lightweight low center of gravity sports coupe.

Hilarious considering the Civic Si & Type R are both turbocharged. And front wheel drive. And the Type R is $10k more than the BRZ. EDIT: Oops the Integra and TLX are turbo too. Which non-turbo did you have in mind?

Where can you buy a brand new Honda na 4 lol

Ouch

Get winter tires and you will be fine until you don’t have enough ground clearance.

Buy WRX. Its turbocharged too for that extra power.

I 2nd the snow tires comment. I live in central Iowa and had no issues driving it in the winter. Ws90s FTW!

you're such a homer

So if you raced this car, you would be doing over 99mph in the 1/4, or go as fast around any turns, or be as balanced and fun to drive?

@@MegaEdge777 its not about racing, its about Subaru’s refusal to add power to the BRZ. The BRZ is better driver’s car by a long shot so if Honda could drop an existing high horsepower motor in a family sedan , why won’t Subaru do the same for its coupe where it would be way more useful and appreciated?

​@@2011joser - the horsepower in the BRZ is fine as-is.

​@@2011joserNot every car has to be optimized for stoplight drag races on big four lane roads in hick towns that go past the Walmart and the Applebee's.

This car is a joint venture with Toyota, if the BRZ gets more power the same engine goes in the GT86 which would take sales away from the Celica. That's business, if you want more power you pay more and get the next car up.

This is a sports car, not a straight line performance car.