The 26 Acre Maker Shop Part 2: K&T and Cincinnati Milling Machines

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The second part of the video here will share the use of Lance's Cincinnati Milling machine. Since he bought it he's never put it to the test so we'll get it fired up and do some milling to see how it performs. We also reveal another horizontal milling machine he recently bought, a K&T plain No. 4 horizontal mill. This is a machine that I have expressed interest in buying from Lance. We'll wire it up and test it out to see how it works.
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2 года назад

Beautiful farm you have! My farm, along with the family's sits at 7248 ft above sea level in the beautiful state of Jalisco, Mexico. Tequila County! We're cattle ranchers and beekeepers!

@highkicker11 2 года назад

just love how the universal mill looks going backwards till you slow it down. such a nice shutter effect.

@tedmiles2110 10 месяцев назад

You have to love those K & T mills; whatever model they are! TM long time listener

@BobOBob 2 года назад

In case that K&T lacks a parking attachment, there's a series of YT videos out there somewhere . . . I learned a lot from those, and got hooked on that guy's channel.

@zakksrage 2 года назад

Turnwright machine works is the number one stop for machining knowledge

@pauljoseph8338 2 года назад

Been watching your videos for years, Adam. Before you were working at Motion, and waaay before you met Abbie. You were very serious back then. So good to see you happy and content with the life you’ve created for yourself. Hard work pays off. Congrats.

@millomweb 2 года назад

Maybe life wasn't so good for him back then ?

@crocketteerden6240 2 года назад

I worked at K&T renewment division for years and worked on many of these beauties. Real work horses. Nice fid.

@nothing2loud 2 года назад

Fun to watch you two guys together, seems like guys get along great and like the same things.

@philipallard8026 2 года назад

Thank you Lance for sharing your shop and farm. Abom, you need one of those mills.

@Sumphuka 2 года назад

Hey Adam. Just wanted to say I love your channel and vids. I wish I'd have known more about this stuff as a kid when I was choosing my path at school. Would love to get involved in the industry, but suppose I have to live it vicariously through channels like yours now. Thanks a lot fella.

@mattWallJsy 2 года назад

Those K&T machines are fantastic. It will look much better in your shop, than Lance's though. 😎👌🏼

@kensherwin4544 2 года назад

Better in a shop than in a fence row.

@jamesbarisitz4794 2 года назад

After a good scrub and rinse this has real value if everything isn't too worn or sloppy. Nice visit to a great fellows farm/shop. ✌

@SteveSummers 2 года назад

Nice machine 😁👍. I love those old K&T mills. They are about as industrial as they get. They also have a look that is hard to beat.

@jamesdonndelinger1522 2 года назад

Grab it! The 4H is essentially a 3K with a #4 table. For your work it is a far better machine than the S Series - no comparison as far as serious milling is concerned - a 50% overload is no problem! Jim Donndelinger, K&T retired.

@millomweb 2 года назад

No spindle reverse switch ? Really ??

@kentuckytrapper780 2 года назад

@@millomweb mine has a pull button for reverse, model k 2 universal.

@skmetal7 2 года назад

it would be great in the new shop!

@millomweb 2 года назад

@@kentuckytrapper780 Is that a mechanical reverse ? I've a feeling I've seen that control - like a T handle to get a finger either side of the shaft you pull ?

@littlejackalo5326 2 года назад

@@truthbetold2914 you still here whining? You are so jealous that he doesn't have to punch a time card.

@larrysmurthwaite773 2 года назад

Ok, I got fooled! I seriously thought this was your new property and I had somehow missed the building going up. I’m old.

@thomaschandler8036 2 года назад

Good videos, thanks Lance for letting us see your shop and farm. I know y'all enjoyed Abbie and Adam's visit. We all did.

@stanwooddave9758 2 года назад

Watch them doggo's run after the food. Such fun. Thanks for sharing. Big thank you to Lance.

@Bones6987 2 года назад

Excellent video Saw that same type machinery in a stamping plant I worked in for 18 years Ran a cutter like that making Press Brake dies and shoes for punch press Definitely some great times Thanks for the videos

@grahamstretch6863 2 года назад

I used to run a vertical mill version of the Milwaukee mill in a little factory on the Isle of Wight England, that thing was a beast and I loved running it! It was date stamped 1940, we believe it came over on lend lease during WWII!

@tomasjosefvela1 2 года назад

what great friends you both have! Thanks for sharing all the creativity and friendship. It's good to see positivity in the current climate.

@jeffreypeters8446 2 года назад

Feeding the cows was great! What a way to end the 2 part series!

@ricko5123 2 года назад

I love that you have the power on your Y on that K&T. I wish my K&T2d had that built into it, and I heard there is another one of us K&T2d owners out there that actually have that...Don't wait to long for picking it up, Adam... Good thing you know Lance so he holds it for you...Njoy them machines guys... Ricko

@olddawgdreaming5715 2 года назад

Always a good time with friends, thanks for sharing with us. Fred.

@rodneykiemele4721 2 года назад

Those were two great videos, Thank You very much, Adam and Lance.

@carlwhite8225 2 года назад

That was a great video series, thanks Adam.

@bulletproofpepper2 2 года назад

Yep all my brother-in-laws love for me to visit too! Get stuff fixed all worked out. Thanks for sharing!

@MoraFermi 2 года назад

Gotta love that reverse spin cutter on the Cincinnati, eating that metal all backwards!

@tomahoks 2 года назад

Seems like it but it ain’t.

@toms.3977 2 года назад

That was a good video. Like comfort food for the soul. Thanks, Adam.

@lynxpardinus2352 7 месяцев назад

Beautiful machine ! Hello desde cordoba (Andalucia ,España)

@geraldharvill4699 2 года назад

I know nothing about these machines. I always been amazed when you flip switches to Unknown machines. And the beast spring to life.

@sinisatrlin840 2 года назад

Great machine. I purchased TOS FN25 on internet auction 15 years ago with not working feeds, same thing happened to that guy, he was running it backwards and could not engage feeds. He got angry and threw it i auction right away without thinking. Now i have mint condition milling machine with vertical head, slotting head, stiff and universal table for 1500Euros, full price with shipping from central Germany. Best deal i ever had, it is so quiet that everyone is amazed, when i retire it is going with me to my home garage.

@BCHonea 2 года назад

You should start a 26 acre machining school bro, I would love nothing more than to have a teacher like you

@Abom79 2 года назад

Lance and I have toyed around with the idea of possibly having some small private classes.

@scottvolage1752 2 года назад

Have a good weekend Adam. =)

@charliemclaughlin1042 2 года назад

Was a great video man I miss machining 👍

@explorationuk6737 2 года назад

I just can't wait to see you bring this machine back to Adam spec ..we all know youl do a more than perfect job of it ..you see by far one of the more meticulous gents I watch...it's dream viewing buddy it really is ... Peace n love from Cumbria UK 🇬🇧 ❤

@millomweb 2 года назад

Some years ago (back half of the 1990s) when newsgroups were a thing in the Internet, I got to know a few names from some of the groups. One year, I went on holiday to south coast of France - cheap coach trip. I'd taken my fold-up Brompton bike. Got off the coach - and there was another guy with a Brompton. Turned out that I knew him from the Internet ! So of course one day in the week we went on a bike ride together. Odd how things like that turn out. We've just watched a video of people enjoying machines in Florida - and I'm in Millom, where are you ?

@explorationuk6737 2 года назад

@@millomweb over in barrow buddy

@millomweb 2 года назад

@@explorationuk6737 6 miles away - as the chips fly ! Can you recommend any metal fabricators there - I need some metal gates making & installing - I need quotes. I e-mailed St Andrews engineering - got no response ! Have you been in B.L. Gilbert - machine tools supplies ? I've not but my dad must have - back when the phone code was 0229 !

@ÁREAJ27 2 года назад

Fantástico o vídeo gosto de ver o trabalho desses profissionais!!! Abraço a todos!!!

@tomahoks 2 года назад

Cool mill.

@johnkoury1116 2 года назад

I love Florida!! I went to USF and I am planning on moving back from PA to Tampa to start a welding and machine shop for restoring old Porsches, Ferraris and Lambos..and a bunch of other stuff including fabricating all sorts of stuff.

@xenonram 2 года назад

I went to USF too. Never hear of anyone talking about it.

@robertbailey947 2 года назад

I just noticed Lance's sweatshirts. Salem State University is about 5 miles from my house. :-)

@paulpipitone8357 2 года назад

Cant Waite for Adam to get his new property finished

@wdhewson 2 года назад

Never thought I'd see a stampede on Abom's channel !!

@robc3056 2 года назад

so so good to see it not scrapped..

@diabloed80 2 года назад

My brain melts trying to watch that cutter spinning the opposite way as the shaft! 😂

@o0ThunderGod0o 2 года назад

The great thing about the big, older horizontal mills is that they are plentiful and inexpensive. I used my old Cincinnati no.2 as a small horizontal boring mill.

@peterparsons3297 2 года назад

thats nice, all thats needed is a vertical head. i love the old equipment all seem to be better made than the modern stuff

@millomweb 2 года назад

Did the K&T not have a vertical head ? I know t wasn't on it but maybe Lance has it stashed somewhere.

@millomweb 2 года назад

It sounds really good :)

@matthewperlman3356 2 года назад

That K&T looks like a real beast! if it's not worn out you should go for it if you can.

@ricko5123 2 года назад

Lance you will Love your ProtoTrak and get real use to it quick. My knee mills were manual and also the Bridgeport 3 axis EZTRACKs with the full blown large color monitors and the joy wand. Of course they are full manual, 2 axis and 3 axis for Z at the quill. Manual input, G code and or Mastercam. Njoy this K&T Adam for the shop...

@paulpipitone8357 2 года назад

Love lances land so beautiful

@jonathangriffin1120 2 года назад

Steve Summers has a similar K&T, a shop[ I worked at fifty years ago had two of them, well past their prime, one had been converted to a vertical mill using an Elliott vertical head, the head was driven by a motor mounted on top of the machine via a duplex chain and sprockets and a Ford Transit gearbox.

@kevinberry4949 2 года назад

You know that mill should be going home with you

@tonydunfordtd 2 года назад

I love to see happy families God bless you all

@tomahoks 2 года назад

Macallan IS good stuff. True.

@bennyfactor 2 года назад

That K&T is a real beutiful art deco design. Obviously you know way more about whether it'd be useful to you and whether you really need it or not, but just on aesthetics alone I'd recommend it! Would fit right in with the Pacemaker.

@killerdoxen 2 года назад

Seeing the thumbnail, I honestly thought this was a Red Green video!

@timk854 2 года назад

Now that’s some good living right there

@danlabonty9720 2 года назад

The old k&t are tanks. They come up for sale around hear pretty often. But that maybe cause I'm 30 min north of Milwaukee WI.

@ragnarironspear1791 2 года назад

WOW I started on one of those as an apprentice

@t.d.mich.7064 2 года назад

Those old KT Horizontal are great for slabbing blocks and squaring edges of plates.

@davidfloyd9413 2 года назад

Seen you and the Ma'am in Mississippi the other weekend

@stevenslater2669 2 года назад

File this episode under “Life is Good!”

@ormmeford2204 2 года назад

Love the good Scotch!

@Rovinman 2 года назад

There's a lot of rust to remove, but it it looks feasible then go for it. The restoration Vlogs will be REALLY interesting and informative !

@jdmccorful 2 года назад

Not far off about blinking and its gone. Thanks for the look.

@brandonvarney7258 2 года назад

Good to see he upgraded the DPM 3 TRAK mill from A.G.E.3 to the KMX Control. That's to clean of a machine to leave old control on it. Once you play with that you will have to have 1 in your new shop!

@lancebaltzley4770 2 года назад

I just did a little R&M on it, so happy with the KMX. Its an amazing mill and in exceptional condition now.... Thanks for watching

@brandonvarney7258 2 года назад

Not sure if they Calibrated it when they installed control? Let me know I can walk you though it. It's real easy. Also did they leave scales or sensors for dual feed back or you just running off servo encoders? I would have interest in those parts if you aren't using dual feedback encoders.

@lancebaltzley4770 2 года назад

@@brandonvarney7258 Yes they did do a calibration, I did the Z calibration (long story). I kept the scales as well....

@brandonvarney7258 2 года назад

@@lancebaltzley4770 Good call on keeping scales. It should be now problem getting each axis to Calibrate within .0002 " If anything would go wrong you can easily toogle them off in Service Code 304 for X or 305 for Y Axis. Hopefully all the rubber lines going to ball screws are good. If so that machine will last the rest of your life. Really glad to see you upgraded!!

@kenboswell8012 2 года назад

Brilliant

@user-kf9ib8ic6q 2 года назад

Класс !!!! Россия смотрит ! Мира добра и удачи !!!

@rexmundi8154 2 года назад

Prototraks are great machines. Mine with the 1996 era control still runs great.

@ThomasLips 2 года назад

I like Lance's last comment, "easier than having family" I've always said you can choose your friends but your family is inflicted upon you.

@michaelkoch2109 2 года назад

A good friend is worth more than all the gold in the world!

@highkicker11 2 года назад

friends become the family you chose and collected, family become the people you knew or visit from time to time

@michaelkoch2109 2 года назад

@@highkicker11 Yes. You can look at it that way, too.

@michaelkoch2109 2 года назад

A very nice place to live!

@brentdavis4867 2 года назад

SSU for the win when I attended, it was Salem State College just next door to my city

@flagman619 2 года назад

I still run an old K and T about twice a month

@tinker5349 2 года назад

Hi nice machine

@Mr229357 2 года назад

You should try some Laphroaig whisky. Good video 😊👍🏻👍🏻

@leonardoa.espinozasoto9771 8 месяцев назад

grate grate i am k and trecker 2 model h nro. 3 and 1 205 SA universal . saludos de santiago de chile

@planetwisconsin9901 2 года назад

I like how it says Milwaukee on the side! 😊

@garymallard4699 2 года назад

The forklift was a Master Craft which is a line of tools sold at Canadian Tire in Canada 🤣

@JamesP_TheShedShop 2 года назад

Talk about moving some metal. Wow

@PeteBrubaker 2 года назад

Man I would love to hang out with you and Lance sometime. I'd even offer my help scraping that surface grinder in when he does it. Just to learn how he figures out what needs to be scraped. I'll help with the labor!

@raymurphy9749 2 года назад

45 years of age and live in Britain where we have fields of cows every where and I've never seen them run once. Almost began to believe they couldn't. 😂

@millomweb 2 года назад

We used to have. Dairy industry is dying.

@arfonjones7188 2 года назад

You don't want dairy cows running, it don't do them any good. Heifers and steers run all the time.

@vicentenovaes9107 2 года назад

muito bom muito obrigado abom 79 abraços ................

@kentuckytrapper780 2 года назад

My k&t is a model k universal made 1944, runs great need to find the over arm attachment for horizontal.

@taunter22nil58 2 года назад

Dope

@bcbloc02 2 года назад

#4 is a handy size for a small mIll. :-)

@millomweb 2 года назад

It doesn't look like it's been drop-tested either ;)

@salsyou 2 года назад

those two blocks of wood on the weight of the fork lift kept her from tipping ;)

@mikehoare6093 2 года назад

oh man, cincinnatis are the super awesome !

@sawz5 2 года назад

the optical illusions always amaze me. you can see the shaft turning clock wise and the cutter looks to be turning counter clock wise. can you climb cut with a horizontal?

@georgespangler1517 2 года назад

Great machine if there's no table wear,,, l have a small simple Sheldon horizontal mill,, love it,, give me a horizontal over vertical mill for my needs.

@tonythompson9049 2 года назад

Get it adam an put in the new shop

@bryceklemm8670 2 года назад

Getting here early 😁

@TheJohndeere466 2 года назад

I have a horizontal cicinnati like that one and mine also has the attachment for milling helical parts. I got it from a forging shop. They used it to make all their own helical endmills for cutting their forging dies.

@millomweb 2 года назад

I think the Cincinnati are better than K&T - just ! What do you say ?

@TheJohndeere466 2 года назад

@@millomweb I like the Cincinnati machines better except for the rapid traverse clutch. It seems that the clutch on the kts always worked better

@millomweb 2 года назад

@@TheJohndeere466 Interesting. Are they both 'gradual' clutches - so you can regulate the rapid speed ? What little's been shown on YT, the rapids have been pretty much on/off. Mine is definitely variable - the lever needs a good pull to get the knee raising !

@TheJohndeere466 2 года назад

@@millomweb Its my experience where the kt takes very little pressure on the rapid handle to make it work. The cincinnati takes much more.

@millomweb 2 года назад

@@TheJohndeere466 Could that lead to the K&Ts being a bit uncontrollable ? I.e. don't slow down as you ease the pressure off - risking running into things ? On mine (Dufour, type 61) the rapids lever disengages the feed drive via a dog clutch and then gives a very sensitive progressive speed increase the more pull on the lever. When the rapids are running, it's easy to speed up or slow down the rapid feed.

@HJA03406 2 года назад

Thats where friends are for. Keith knows everything. LOL But still the question.... is he buying it????

@armandhammer9617 2 года назад

It's a shame most of our manufacturing is overseas, there won't be any old mills or machinery laying around in 20 yrs

@ferrofil 2 года назад

Funny how that optical illusion keeps showing it going the wrong way!

@WilliamTMusil 2 года назад

Hiya Adam

@georgespangler1517 2 года назад

Crazy,,,my first thought was would it slide with motor spinning backwards,,,lol ,

@earleclemans4836 2 года назад

Keep the cinci and send kt down the road

@collar1022 2 года назад

Salem State University?! That's my home town!

@erneststorch9844 2 года назад

I sharpen cutting tools for a living. One customer has 4x4 plane milling cutters I have sharpened. Two or three times I am sure they were run backwards. It really burns them up when they do that. I have warned them of it . People need to understand the cutters can be put on the arbor backwards and will burn them up. It's a lot harder for me to sharpen a burned up cutter. I even etched an arrow on the cutter showing the proper direction. You can tell it's been the wrong way by the burr pushed toward and over the cutting edge.

@samrobinson3949 2 года назад

Hey Adam! I've been a subscriber for years and love your videos, i went into a machine shop to look at a damaged door and watching those guys mill large parts from copper gave me anxiety. I'd be so worried about making a mistake.

@tombeauchamp806 2 года назад

I was a CNC machinist after being a manual machinist for a while... Copper was always a pucker job when using a new machine or just in general lol

@samrobinson3949 2 года назад

I'm glad to see I'm not alone

@mpetersen6 2 года назад

K&T vs Cinncy's? As long as the machine hasn't been abused can't go wrong either way IMO. Had a spindle housing once that the rear bearing bore was messed up. Used a K&T horizontal as a horizontal boring bar to open the bore up for sleeving as our DeVlieg and G&L were tied up with other jobs. Sometimes yo just have to get creative.