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The 3 best ways to treat trauma and PTSD 

Doctor Ali Mattu
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@drali
@drali Год назад
Treating trauma doesn't mean you need to relive it. It does me you need to feel empowered, safe, and get a new perspective.
@IolcanPK
@IolcanPK Год назад
How come you recommend treating trauma without some type of exposure? What evidence do you base this on? (I'm asking in a non-confrontational way)
@hiscientia6536
@hiscientia6536 Год назад
Hi Dr. Ali Mattu. Is it possible to have ocd after going through a trauma? I lost my mom 13 years back due to cancer and since then I believe i have ocd… in anything and everything i do for my kids especially cooking - that if i touch the food it may get my kids or family sick. However, if i do any for rest of the world including myself, i am totally alright…!! I still have all memories of my mom’s suffering, the hospital back then, other patients, etc.. so so fresh in my mind. Only while cooking especially, i go into this ocdmode. I do get into ocd mode sometimes when i am picking clothes for my kids, or doing grocery too. Any suggestions on what steps should i be taking to live my life normally… i love cooking.. and feeding healthy to my family but i am very very tired of my ocd.. feels like so many years now.
@ademrax01
@ademrax01 Год назад
Your wisdom is pretty cool dude
@bradfisher407
@bradfisher407 Год назад
I want to get better from PTSD. What channel is this sir? I want to subscribe.
@71degrees
@71degrees Год назад
Is trauma simply having something taken from you?🤔 i haven't taken a very deep dive into this subject yet
@briangriffin8262
@briangriffin8262 10 месяцев назад
It’s so hard to open up let alone try to forget it. There’s been days where I think about suicide all day and look at someone and smile and say I’m fine but really I wanna cry and want to be held.
@ibo1137
@ibo1137 8 месяцев назад
Hey man, i think you should reach out for help.
@ThyNguyen-md1ob
@ThyNguyen-md1ob Год назад
Ahhh this explains to me why sometimes when I entered a good relationship, it felt like trauma treatment. It encourages safety. That's what it is. Thank you for your message.
@skydivingcomrade1648
@skydivingcomrade1648 7 месяцев назад
Taking trauma from a first-person perspective and turning it into a third-person perspective. You no longer relive the trauma, but from a safe perspective are getting to see the details as though it is nothing more than a TV show that you get to dissect and understand better. Getting from the first person to the third person is where most of the work is at.
@cccccccccccc242
@cccccccccccc242 Год назад
This is so true!! I feel that for number one, I not only got this from therapy but college as well. Going to college has made me feel seen and heard. I'm a high school drop-out on my way to getting my masters because of so🎉
@codacreator6162
@codacreator6162 9 месяцев назад
Hope you’re doing GREAT! I got my master’s a few years ago (GED recipient). Take pride in the accomplishment, but don’t expect it to validate you. That’s the mistake I made and it cost me. Big.
@cfhillen
@cfhillen 8 месяцев назад
You are awesome. I am going through treatment for grief trauma now, and what you say makes so much sense to me. Thank you.
@tinaperez7393
@tinaperez7393 Год назад
Notes: - A BIG MYTH ABOUT TRAUMA TREATMENT: that you have to relive it in order to get over it. That's NOT how it works. The best / most effective treatments for PTSD and trauma do 3 things: 1) They EMPOWER you. People who've experienced trauma feel like choices were and have been taken away from them. Good / effective trauma treatment RESPECTS individuals, GIVES THEM CHOICES, and AFFIRMS who they are. 2) They ENCOURAGE SAFETY / MAKE YOU FEEL SAFE. They make you feel safe in the room. They teach people ways to regain a sense of control over your emotions and life. And they discuss how community might make you feel more or less safe. 3) They GIVE YOU A NEW / USEFUL / HELPFUL / ACTIONABLE PERSPECTIVE. Good trauma treatment helps you understand who you were, who you are, who you want to be, and how to get there.
@bradfisher407
@bradfisher407 Год назад
Where do I get this help Tina?
@lexxwippel
@lexxwippel Год назад
🫶
@teryv1259
@teryv1259 Год назад
Bruh these are not notes but subtitles xd
@tinaperez7393
@tinaperez7393 Год назад
@@teryv1259 I didn't say they weren't. I was trying to describe the type of comment it was (a note type thing VERSUS an opinion or experience comment). Writing down exactly what he said was helpful for me. If my writing down what he said isn't helpful for you, then just disregard. Besides, "notes" are just a summary of key points of anything anyway and this being a short video, that would make sense that the notes are easily just be the text of what he said. Also, doing that was mainly for me - it's a lot easier and FASTER for me to revisit / review / re - access and actually remember the message by glancing at what I wrote here (as a screenshot or saved in some other way - Google notes or something) - where the message is verbatim - than by rewatching the video, even if it is a short one. It's an important / valuable message to me and the is helpful for ME, "Bruh". 🤨 What are you doing trolling comments on mental health videos anyway? That's a rhetorical question - I don't want or need an answer.
@teryv1259
@teryv1259 Год назад
@@tinaperez7393 I'm sorry if this offended you in any way. Didn't really mean to. I'm in a really dark cave myself and the comment reflected my inner confusion and obsessiveness I guess. Thank you for sharing your point of view, I think it kind of broadened my perception right now.
@elizabethpettigrew4382
@elizabethpettigrew4382 Год назад
I think I’ve fallen in love with your channel 😢❤ thank you.
@janan1105
@janan1105 Год назад
You're the best therapist ive ever had. Thank you so much for thes short videos ❤ appreciate you
@Ydce1891
@Ydce1891 Год назад
I wish I had a trauma therapist with this approach. Emdr really helped me but was one of the most brutal times of my life. The trauma therapist didn’t even explain the process or how difficult it could be. I have a health problem that is really affected negatively by physical or emotional stress, which I informed them off. They didn’t worn me or tell me what to expect or how to deal with feeling such horrible emotions that I never felt before. It felt very wrong like let’s do this intense work and then see ya next week with no support, coping tools or talk therapy
@Inadace
@Inadace 2 месяца назад
that sounds terrible I'm so sorry!
@TheKaraqi4
@TheKaraqi4 6 дней назад
That sounds unprofessional. Like they have only 5 mins for their patients. No wonder people avoid seeking out for help.
@stefanie_again
@stefanie_again 2 месяца назад
Yes! Thank you for saying what I have been saying for years!!!
@caramelcheezit6978
@caramelcheezit6978 Год назад
I was watching videos of people who visibly can be themselves and gas friends that truly cared about them. I recently cane to know my own trauma and how constant it was in every facet of my life. It's actually kind of hard to write this rn ngl haha to get the words out. But I'm realizing I never knew it's actually good and normal to feel the way these tips describe. I feel like crying and when I've opened up to people they often brush things off idk. It hurts .. ah ha My bf and friends I met thru him live far away from me now and they actually saw me for me and my trauma. Idk why I get brushed off otherwise at times it's actually quite triggering to even know how much people underestimate it at times
@anniesoernym
@anniesoernym Год назад
Thank you for this perspective!
@drali
@drali Год назад
Thanks for your kind comment!
@Privatenospying
@Privatenospying 9 месяцев назад
Communities make me feel unsafe every time. The hurt people always pick out the hurt and hurt them more.
@kaizen_5091
@kaizen_5091 Год назад
I love these short clips by Doctor Ali Mattu. So invaluable.
@Notbothered1
@Notbothered1 8 месяцев назад
Im writing a book its definitely been hard but necessary to my own healing journey. ✨️ we all heal differently
@stopwlkingslow
@stopwlkingslow 2 месяца назад
Throwing that three towards the cam scared me
@amysinger2201
@amysinger2201 Год назад
I feel like some popular manualized trauma treatments are exactly in opposition to these ideas, such as EMDR.
@drali
@drali Год назад
There are some fantastic trauma treatment manuals out there AND at the same time there’s a lot of training that goes into being a true trauma informed therapist. Trauma can present in a lot of different ways and if you don’t know what to look for you can easily mistake it for something else.
@EnchantingWings1
@EnchantingWings1 Год назад
I've found that EMDR has been all three got me. My therapist allows me to choose what thought and memory we focus on, and what I want the healthy new thought to be. My therapist helps me to understand who I was, am, and who I want to be, and I feel safe in the room. I can tell you, Prolonged Exposure Therapy absolutely did the opposite of all three. It was horrible from the start and I didn't continue with it. I think that it all depends on the therapist you have and what kind of therapeutic relationship you have with them.
@theflittingbutterfly
@theflittingbutterfly Год назад
​@@draliPlease share where we can find these manuals and what it means and takes to be a true trauma informed therapist
@jclyntoledo
@jclyntoledo 8 месяцев назад
​@@EnchantingWings1maybe EMDR was helpful for you play EMDR has the higher success rate when you're just working with PTSD and complex PTSD is a lot different. Also EMDR is notorious for making your symptoms significantly worse in the beginning as well as it being really hard for complex PTSD people to pinpoint specific memories since these are traumas that were consistently repeated. The more you know 🌈
@whysoupset9286
@whysoupset9286 10 месяцев назад
Trauma and paranoia gets over with time it stays there all the time u just gotta carry on and try living with it i feel like all this treatments just teach you the way to look at it and handle it
@IolcanPK
@IolcanPK Год назад
Yeah, I'm not sure we get to gloss over the exposure element of trauma healing that easily... The principles you mentioned I consider sine qua non for treating trauma, but I'm just not sure that the exposure element of treatment (whichever form it takes) is unnecessary. Though it can vary by person, so I guess some people who end up needing trauma therapy could perhaps get better without exposure.
@deborahkohler1119
@deborahkohler1119 Год назад
Exposition is essential , There Are countless studies Supporting that
@BeautifullyBlessed7
@BeautifullyBlessed7 Год назад
@@deborahkohler1119agreed
@denisesiddon7241
@denisesiddon7241 Год назад
I was told i was never good enough by everyone and believed it. Made me look out for myself. Didn't want to be like that. Just want to be normal Learning slowly to trust other's again
@Raine_without_the_v
@Raine_without_the_v 11 месяцев назад
My own tip: think about it until you feel more comfortable with it
@rec1015
@rec1015 Год назад
OMG!!!! Finally someone who really understands what heck is going on with M.H. And NO I REFUSE TO follow the Veterans department of Health imposed, mandatory, treatment for PTSD and other MH diagnosis, which to relieved over and over the same event that mess me up, permanently, 43 years ago. One of the few MH good hearthed and caring Doctors that I encountered at the VA, was force to resin from her job of 16 years because she will allow her patients to choose which treatment the fell more comfortable with.
@GhostieDuck-star
@GhostieDuck-star Год назад
I’ve gotten trauma when I was 5 and relived with losing my mom and I’m all alone
@MayDayBayy
@MayDayBayy 9 месяцев назад
Ptsd trauma i have from the car accidents It built me confident it after 2 years of relearning Car accident impact my life i lost - lost memories - loud noise scares me - after 2 years i learned to accept it Easy and done and ptsd kinda died down slowly after accepting it without medication its just how u want it to control u
@victoriacortina7715
@victoriacortina7715 Год назад
Love this. Thank you!!
@drali
@drali Год назад
You are so welcome!
@Adam-do8ny
@Adam-do8ny Год назад
in regards to trauma treatment involving knowing who you were - how does this relate to C-PTSD, where a sense of self isn't developed when the trauma starts early in life and traumatic events happen persistently
@muirgirl
@muirgirl 11 месяцев назад
FYI PTSD and cPTSD survivors sometimes NEED to tell someone and be heard and forcing this safe room thing on them is incredibly violating and harmful. Therapists need to be flexible and open minded as they tailor individual treatments.
@sciencepowerpoints
@sciencepowerpoints 11 месяцев назад
Sorry from my personal experience. the only way to get back your 'soul piece' is to re live the trauma. Its literally taking part back of your soul which was is stuck in time by the trauma. You DO have to relive it.
@jclyntoledo
@jclyntoledo 8 месяцев назад
Not necessarily since that could retraumatize the person and set you back. You could delve deep in some parts but that's only once you are comfortable with a trained therapist that understands trauma and one that has already given you the tools to use in case that happens. Also reliving it means to go so deep into the memory and not talk about it on a shallow level.
@Austin612Realtor
@Austin612Realtor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks doc 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️
@PanBoy-s9c
@PanBoy-s9c 9 месяцев назад
I JUST WANT TO SAY IT FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS PTSD IN THE COMMENTS I DON'T I MAY NOT KNOW YOU BUT I'M SURE MANY OF US ARE HERE FOR A REASON CUZ WE'RE ALL CONNECTED SENDING ALL OF YOU GUYS LOVE AND LIGHT AND POSITIVITY TO YOUR LIVES KEEP GOING YOU GUYS ARE ALL STRONG AND YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF HOW YOU'VE BEEN BATTLING AND FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE❤❤❤❤❤🥺🥺🥺🥺❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Directory1
@Directory1 Год назад
I like this alot
@drali
@drali Год назад
Glad you do!
@Trees123-w3i
@Trees123-w3i Год назад
Literally RU-vid suggested a clip right before this that said the complete opposite of this. This is so sad that that other kind of information is available on line. Especially with treatment models finally being updated after well earned decades of study
@saiyan147
@saiyan147 Год назад
I'm so traumatized after a car accident
@stillnotstill
@stillnotstill 9 месяцев назад
Which is why I'm still not getting anywhere in dealing with my trauma - it's consistently ongoing. Fun times. :(
@katrinafinka3503
@katrinafinka3503 Год назад
I am reliving this everyday 😅😅😅
@jennahumphrey1
@jennahumphrey1 Год назад
Cool, thoughts on the book Trauma and Recovery? She says “giving testimony” is important, to process what happened.
@localnugget
@localnugget Год назад
Can you provide some resources where I can look into the techniques that you described ?
@BlueHeron654
@BlueHeron654 Год назад
Client centered treatment. Narrative therapy. staying within the window of tolerance.
@localnugget
@localnugget Год назад
@@BlueHeron654 thanks, I’m in grad school for counseling and I’m interested in the alternative methods from this video
@BlueHeron654
@BlueHeron654 Год назад
@@localnugget Great. I wish you the best in your studies.
@drali
@drali Год назад
Check out some of the resources in my description.
@localnugget
@localnugget Год назад
@@drali thank you !
@jessebelanger9753
@jessebelanger9753 Год назад
I love you man!
@brazilgrl571
@brazilgrl571 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, but not all modalities work for everyone. Regardless of who, what, how, it’s a very individual process. What would you say, in your opinion, is the best method to deal with triggers?
@betinansi201
@betinansi201 9 месяцев назад
How about childhood trauma which continues to adulthood and the cycle keeps repeating itself ?
@Mushroom321-
@Mushroom321- 9 месяцев назад
👏👏👏👏 great video!!!!
@pippacarron1861
@pippacarron1861 9 месяцев назад
I wish someone would tell my famliy this.
@YoumnaDiriRieder
@YoumnaDiriRieder 11 месяцев назад
I just want my suffering to end. That’s all I want. I want my suffering to end
@tinasmith9784
@tinasmith9784 Год назад
This sounds ideal
@sakurangel3
@sakurangel3 Год назад
People did the total contrary on me, that's why I never healed from it.
@mcjs8640
@mcjs8640 Год назад
I need further EMDR. Can't afford it. Am completely and utterly alone.
@JohannesNielsen
@JohannesNielsen Год назад
Safety is a sense not a feeling. I refer you to Sylvan Tompkins "Affect states " re-constellation of the trauma which results in a less than resourceful state is what your alluding to
@MaraTheBrave
@MaraTheBrave Месяц назад
Where? Where can I go to get this help? I’m asking for several thousands of friends.
@SD-hs2pk
@SD-hs2pk Год назад
Sounds like cooping instead of healing but good to know
@Harthe-z8z
@Harthe-z8z 7 месяцев назад
Where can I find you? I stopped therapy because that's exactly what they were doing and it made me worse
@janepate
@janepate 6 месяцев назад
What therapy?
@janepate
@janepate 6 месяцев назад
I could remember during the time of my grandma she had similar problem but got a good advice from my colleague who introduced me to a traditional therapist who deals on natural products.
@janepate
@janepate 6 месяцев назад
Is known as Charlesmyco.
@janepate
@janepate 6 месяцев назад
On instagram.
@lilabukvic4216
@lilabukvic4216 8 месяцев назад
Can I be completely free from ptsd in this lifeteam or I only can try to regulate symptom? Thank you.😢
@janepate
@janepate 8 месяцев назад
You can darling...my grandma lived with it for 32years and with the aid iur my specialist she's free from it(PTSD). It was possibly done with some natural supplements, i will give you a link to follow up.
@janepate
@janepate 8 месяцев назад
Yes you can darling. Get across to charliuasca 🌴👁️
@janepate
@janepate 8 месяцев назад
He's on instagram.
@Jennifr1966
@Jennifr1966 10 месяцев назад
HOW do I control my emotions? I don't know how anymore.
@jimsmith5687
@jimsmith5687 Год назад
I have tried EMDR and I don't know how effective it was at treatment for PTSD problems.
@dib_noice
@dib_noice 4 месяца назад
Dang imagine if I had to relive getting kidnapped
@angelicacroitoru4946
@angelicacroitoru4946 9 месяцев назад
Why then all say look inside you? When I do that I see caos and trauma and I cannot get over It now, just like I couln't in my youth
@Numbers_cool
@Numbers_cool 9 месяцев назад
When I was 6 my mother got on a dating website. (my dad and mom were divorced) and because I was 6 and had no one to babysit sit me. my mother brought me with to meet him. She didn't like how he acted in public so she tried to leave. He kept telling her to stay and when she didn't listen. He beat both of us and I constantly flinch now. My mom got back together with my dad when I was 13. He was raised with physical punishment so he did It to me. I constantly compared him to the man. it did not help just made it worse so I'm all for this
@OldSchoolL4D-zb2kt
@OldSchoolL4D-zb2kt Час назад
How could i make you my therapist?
@volkerd714
@volkerd714 6 месяцев назад
You can’t make someone feel safe. You can only invite it through nervous system (ventral vagal) safety and (this is crucial for relational trauma) via the manner in which you engage in relationship WITH someone - as an attentive, intersubjective, collaborative, transparent conversation. I think the best trauma treatment restores power to the client centrally by being lateral, not top down. Attenuate power imbalance. This should NOT be confused with less responsibility. Less power over is more AWARENESS of the way power exists structurally in therapy, a far INCREASED sense and acceptance of responsibility.
@jacobdaMcplayer
@jacobdaMcplayer 8 месяцев назад
Can you please make a video to treat me I was traumatized because I saw a video where there was a fire and yeah... I don't wanna talk about it 😢
@janetrowe186
@janetrowe186 Год назад
My flight fight response stuck
@janghardy
@janghardy Год назад
I have to stay away from my trigger.. I use to be strong …help
@soniczforever5470
@soniczforever5470 11 месяцев назад
I have just locked my door
@Melosnation
@Melosnation 9 месяцев назад
People: “relive ur trauma” Me who and trauma from mum leaving her for 1-2 yrs: 👁️👄👁️
@Em-im1yz
@Em-im1yz 11 месяцев назад
Im not going to relive mine. Bad enough first time round.
@asiarockwell9714
@asiarockwell9714 Год назад
ive learned today that i am depressed,have trauma and has active suicide thoughts.
@brunowario5169
@brunowario5169 Год назад
Can u have ptsd after a betrayal? My ex of 4 years was having an affair and despite leaving her and starting a new happy life I still get dreams about my past the good and bad. Is this ptsd?
@karinaportillo4556
@karinaportillo4556 Год назад
Trauma is a risk during trauma, vision and the function of the brain are impaired
@pod9363
@pod9363 11 месяцев назад
Most therapy to me is just teaching people how to dissociate from emotional pain.
@rocky1raquel
@rocky1raquel 11 месяцев назад
I liked who I was. She’s gone now.
@kittypurry4056
@kittypurry4056 4 месяца назад
@allen0088
@allen0088 10 месяцев назад
So hugs work.....okay
@kmonodal
@kmonodal 11 месяцев назад
Good I thought you gone say trauma is bad for you health and that weak ballshit Thank you for ceeping it real doc
@edwardpaddock2528
@edwardpaddock2528 Год назад
#1 Empower you. What does that even mean? empower you to do what? How? Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING takes choices away from you. Everything you do, everything you don't do, and all of the actions, and inactions of every quark in the universe takes choices away from you. You say 'empower' however the word for what you are describing is 'encourage'. Either way, it is a meaningless waste of time and energy, for all involved. #2 encourage safety. What is that supposed to mean? 'look both ways before you cross the road'? The only way to 'make someone feel safe, is to lie to them, or infuse them with chemicals. Safety, like the tooth fairy, is a myth. You don't control emotions, you feel them. You can only control how you react to them, if you are lucky. Community makes you less safe, as it requires the presence of other people. Humans are the most dangerous thing on this planet. #3 give you a new perspective? More meaningless fluff. everything gives you a new perspective. everything thing you see, hear, smell, touch, taste, experience, imagine, or dream. Your mind is in a constant state of change. New connections are made, old ones fade away. perspective is like a river, it never remains the same . . . even if it seems to. This video is empty fluff. You spoke much, and said nothing.
@abigailrandall7520
@abigailrandall7520 Год назад
As a trauma survivor thank you for articulating this! I’ve been gaslighted so much about my trauma and that has honestly done more damage than the initial trauma. CBT is gaslighting.
@oliviamaira1
@oliviamaira1 Год назад
This advice only works with people PTSD 😢
@evadebruijn
@evadebruijn 11 месяцев назад
🙏❗
@bunnies412
@bunnies412 Год назад
I just came back from the hair vid
@olivegreenjeep
@olivegreenjeep Год назад
choices tsken away is soooooooo dreadful
@RayVR-2627
@RayVR-2627 3 месяца назад
Hey I got a mini heart attack after seeing a white creature outside my house and it’s 11:06 pm I’m scared I live in a farm I’m trying to let go of it I saw it just now I’m terrified I’m real not lies
@oluchiemetarom2425
@oluchiemetarom2425 Год назад
But I’m johan
@elmocake2849
@elmocake2849 Год назад
I like you
@pickleofdeath7740
@pickleofdeath7740 12 дней назад
Jokes on you I can’t remember most of the traumatizing things that happened so I don’t have to relive it 😂. Nor do I even know if it really happened or if I’m making it all up and it’s all in my head and I had the same normal childhood everyone else did 😅 but WHO KNOWS not me that’s who.
@ItsSoarTime
@ItsSoarTime 10 месяцев назад
so good trauma treatment does not cause the patient to feel powerless and to view the therapist as their healer (god, savior)...
@Luke-nl6yk
@Luke-nl6yk 11 месяцев назад
I'm sorry I must have a different ptsd, not this gen z stuff
@Branaymolly
@Branaymolly Год назад
I don't like the medicine
@Peppino-j5x
@Peppino-j5x 11 месяцев назад
Nerf miner
@paulaOyeah
@paulaOyeah Год назад
So, how about trauma with Autism? That makes this trickier, yeah?
@drali
@drali Год назад
It would be weaving in the usual ways of supporting someone on the spectrum. That includes: 1. Increasing predicability. 2. Make things visual and specific. 3. Draw from passions (i.e. special interests or perseverative interests). 4. Preview future events visually. 5. Plan out choices.
@abigailrandall7520
@abigailrandall7520 Год назад
In my experience yes. Avoid CBT and ABA. I found IFS to be far more helpful.
@abigailrandall7520
@abigailrandall7520 Год назад
@@drali The autistic experience is far more than black and white thinking and literalism. The traumas we experience are often more specific to our neuro types and we are often more targeted and vulnerable. We see patterns you don’t see, we experience emotions at decibels we are unable to articulate that many neurotypicals would crumble under. Your layout of approach way under estimates the needs of our specific community. People in the autism community are nearly 7x more likely to die of un-aliving. Please don’t treat people within the autism community, you’re far under equipped and will likely compound their trauma.
@MrSpock-sm3dd
@MrSpock-sm3dd Год назад
You have no clue what PTSD is my guy, it's a shame you recorded this video
@CansuS-h3n
@CansuS-h3n 2 месяца назад
I think you don't know what you are talking about.
@claudiakoprinock1501
@claudiakoprinock1501 Год назад
You really didn’t say anything that could help someone. You seem to emphasize really nothing. Time wasted. Don’t speak unless you can really describe what is in your head.
@stockgrain8653
@stockgrain8653 11 месяцев назад
You can get it delivered to you discreetly
@stockgrain8653
@stockgrain8653 11 месяцев назад
He’s on telegram and instagram as
@stockgrain8653
@stockgrain8653 11 месяцев назад
*Formulah01*
@stockgrain8653
@stockgrain8653 11 месяцев назад
You can get it delivered discreetly
@LiftedMoonLight
@LiftedMoonLight Год назад
Thank you ❤
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