The 3 Biggest Problems with Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League 

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It didn't have Bat-cow in it.

Boomerang in the comics respects flash. It's a much more interesting relationship. Imagine Boomer having a quiet moment for his fallen enemy. Instead of him pissing on his corpse.

15:41 One of the worst moments is when Batman's "I am vengeance, I am the night. I am Batman" quote is turned into a repetitive catchphrase even though it was something the DCAU version of him said once in one episode of the animated series and Arkham Batman only said at the end of Knight.

Boomer ranger pissing on flash lis like Joker taking a shit on Jason Todd. No one wants to see that, it’s just gross.

What’s crazy is both Gotham knights and this game could’ve been way better(maybe) if they switched studios, rocksteady keeps Arkham family , WB get live service suicide squad

One thing I'd like to mention about the game that I don't think I've heard people talk about, is how it depicted Brainiac. I thought the design was kind of interesting and I really love Jason Isaacs as the voice actor, but the dialogue and portrayal was really weird. Since when does Brainiac want to restore Colu? What he wants in the comics is to collect worlds in order to enhance his knowledge. His home planet is irrelevant to him. That felt more like something General Zod would do. Also my problem with his dialogue was that it felt too casual and often funny, when Brainiac is supposed to be cold and calculating.

Damn. Even Injustice 2 introduced Brainiac early and had him show up multiple times in the story to talk to others

I think one of the worst problems about the story is a common one that happens to any story with the "smartest person in the world/universe" trope. Brainiac is not smart. Normally, he would want to bottle up cities or entire planets to add to his collection which also adds to his knowledge, while casting aside anything irrelevant. When done right, Brainiac is a formidable opponent because he will pursue this goal until it has been proven that he is outmatched, and he'll just leave to regroup and come back. Changing his motivation from this and making it so that he wants to build a new Colu isn't necessarily bad, but now we need to know why Earth is so special. There are countless planets which would have been closer to Colu and more closely resembling Colu, so why not choose any of those? The real problem is introduced when we find out he has access to multiversal travel. Like, hey forehead, if you wanted to bring back Colu and you can *access the multiverse* why not just find a dimension that has it and go there, or just pull it into our dimension? It's nonsensical at this point to invade Earth when there are easier and better decisions available for him. Even if he still maintained his original motivation, it would still be stupid of him to pursue the invasion of Earth as he did in the game. Once he discovers alternative universes, all with unique knowledge, he would simply try to take over each planet in each dimension on his own. Why involve twelve other versions of himself when he of all people should know that he isn't trustworthy? Every single one of them would want to kill the others and collect all of that knowledge for themselves. This points us to the foundational problem of the game, though. The GaaS model directly pushes back against the story they wanted to tell. It became necessary at some point to make the story not make sense because there's no proper *satisfying* way to make the campaign stretch out for twelve seasons. If you don't fight Brainiac at the end, that would be disappointing, so we have to nerf him a little to be arrogant enough to not realize when the battle is lost. But if we kill him at the end of the game and that's the end of it, we still need a villain for the twelve seasons-- so we just have to make it be twelve Brainiacs. But, we also can't have them fighting each other because that messes with our story, so they inexplicably team up while also not really helping each other when one of them dies. At every turn there's just poor decision after poor decision, and I do truly believe it's because they wanted to make a battlepass/seasonal DLC model. The story could have been interesting if not impeded by that decision alone.

In terms of tone, the game definitely has Family Guy syndrome. Constant joke after joke while also wanting to have emotional scenes, but is simultaneously too scared to commit to any, so they're all just punctuated with a (99% of the time shitty) joke. They're trying to have their cake & eat it too, which just doesn't work, especially in the context of the damn Arkham-verse. 💀

Seeing as how there's a multiverse and they wanted modern Harley, i think it would've been possible to introduce her as a multiverse variant from a universe where Batman died in Arkham city instead of Joker and the latter entered a depression and became more agressive, Harley realised Joker didnt love her and left him and then teamed up with the Bat family to take him down and became somewhat reformed (not without her regrets though, after all she killed a bunch of people), i imagine she'd be introduced at 1/3 of the campaign and would acompany the squad for a bit trying to reform base Harley, but failing as she would betray the squad because of Brainiac crearly false promise of bringing back Joker, Waller explodes the bomb in her head and she gets replaced by variant Harley, ultimately she'd die for someone that never loved her, turning her into a somewhat tragic character and an irredimible Harley compared to other versions

They really just try to follow dceu harley from margo robby,. She even states that she "hates" joker and is angry with her ex and such.. it doesn't at all fit with the arkham continuity

To me something that sticks out is that the whole "Stop an apocolyptic threat, save the world" isn't what the Suicide Squad does. They're meant to be a black ops team doing high risk missons for ARGUS and Waller's agenda. That's one of the things the 2020 film did better than the 2016 one; sure it did end in a battle with Starro, but setting him loose was an accident and Waller wanted the Squad to infiltrate the lab it was imprisoned in and obtain a file Waller wanted to squash. I've said it in comments for other videos but what might have been a better move for an arkhamverse Suicide Squad game would be to consider returning to the TITAN formula; it was the big thing with Asylum, while not as prominent it had a notable role in City and even in Origins Project TN-1 was clearly a precursor to TITAN. So perhaps someone who was working to clean up after the Aslyum disaster, found Joker's notes from his experiments (not Dr Young's notes, but presumably Joker had to write some stuff down when he was perfecting the formula), and because that's where Venom comes from, these notes ended up in Santa Prisca. So Waller sends the Suicide Squad into Santa Prisca, to fight maybe Bane's mercenaries, maybe Kobra, maybe even there's a whole host of different villainous organisations fighting for control over the TITAN, including a late game reveal that, rather than Waller playing the Batman role of trying to stamp out TITAN, she wants to get her hands on the perfected formula to use for ARGUS' interests. Going with Santa Prisca would also afford the "map devoid of non enemy NPC's" thing the Arkham Games tend to do, without a madnatory curfew, evacuation or the entire population of Metropolis being killed off, since like Asylum it'd be a prison on an island (it'd kinda be a return to roots for the Arkham games)

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this should’ve been a Teen Titans game, cause first off I feel like we need more Teen Titans outside of comics and it feels like DC has been pushing the Suicide Squad way too much lately (I could swear DC has been pushing them more than the freaking Justice League), but aside from that, I don’t buy for a second that this Squad could ever beat a mind controlled Justice League meanwhile the Teen Titans definitely could’ve when they’ve got members that can counteract the League, just look at Wally West, plus if we were fighting a mind controlled League as the Titans then we could’ve saved them instead of killing them in their first appearance in this universe (and in Batman’s case, his big reappearance), and maybe the final battle could’ve allowed us to play as the League by bringing back Batman’s Arkham Knight play style, and giving Superman, Flash, and Wonder Woman the same as Superboy, Wally West, and Wonder Girl (not sure about Green Lantern though (edit:after my brother brought it up, maybe they could do that for Green Lantern with Blue Beetle, I mean the Scarab functions somewhat similarly to a Green Lantern ring so…)), and if we absolutely have to have at least one League member die then have Batman sacrifice himself to defeat Brainiac so he gets a more respectable ending

I have a feeling we are gonna see a new rewritten Suicide Squad!

Apparantly Deadshot is both is and is not a "fake". Its revealed one of the two Deadshots was from another Earth

These are important issues! It being in it's own universe would have fixed everything! I would still hate to see the Justice League get killed,but it would be better then what we got!

Injustice 2 did the brainiac storyline so much bettter I feel they tried to fit Arkham’s nostalgia into something that wasn’t made to be an Arkham game.the game honestly would’ve fit better if they treated this storyline as an alternate ending to injustice 2 and connected it to that

9:20 AVGN put it best in a video where a game reveals a legendary boss in the room before you fight him. He compared the ridiculousness to if Zelda64 revealed Ganondorf right before you fight him, because it might as well be another random enemy

Great video. The Arkham connection is completely unnecessary, and Brainiac being shown earlier and showing the Squad what the League is going through could have been used to make their deaths more respectful. Great points 👍

6:11 They basically put MCU "humour" into a DC game.

also king shark was killed in the arkhamverse which resulted in kid shark wanting to take revenge, captain boomerang was killed by the white deadshot, they were surprised to be taken by waller despite the suicide squad existing already.

I kinda just wish the game was smaller scale like the comics, I don't exactly think of braniac and multiverses when I think of the squad

I'm a scriptwriter and always looking at potential job postings for writers. Long after the first trailer came out for this game, there was a sudden stream of job postings for scriptwriters for the game asking for people skilled in story and dialogue. I had hopes for this game, but when I saw that LONG AFTER the trailer, i knew things were bad and this game was dead in the water. If you're looking for writers after you already released a trailer... well...

None of the people that made the Arkham Series even worked on Suicide Squad. It's like you said, the Arkham Series was only implemented in the game only to be used as a marketing ploy to get a pre-existing fan base to buy this game.

This is definitely not canon to the Arkhamverse

"Only 3 I'll be sure to try harder next time"-Rocksteady

My ssktjl rewrite: The Game starts like in Arkham Knight with a POV from an unkown man sitting at a helicopter alongside the other Ss members Waller is Heard talking through the comms: "we managed to create an opening on Brainiac's shield, but it's temporary, it's a Matter of time before it-" sudeenly a huge explosion is Heard as the helicopter shakes, the shield closed off just as the helicopter got in and now it's falling down due to a missing rotor, the SS members get out but you cant get away in time and the helicopter crashes * Title card+ credits* Tutorial for each character as they get to the Hall of Justice, there they get their traversal equipment and Waller tells them to get to the Crash site as the Heli had a very important laptop for stopping Brainiac, but when you get there you find the POV Guy from the beggining ( Thinkerer)Who was suppose to operate the laptop dead and the laptop missing, Shark smells the trail the laptop left and when following It they encounter Luthor along with the laptop, he explains he stole it BCS It said Argus and though it might be important, Boss Fight, they get the laptop and aprehend Luthor and he tells them that there's a bunker with half of Metropolis hidden in It and with a man smart enough to operate the laptop, Waller orders them to get to the Bunker, they take a detour through the Batman Museum and get taken out by a non brainwashed Batman Who takes the laptop. Regardless they follow Luthor to the Bunker and find out he was telling the truth and meet Gizmo, outside a Battle is Heard as a brainwashed Flash is fighting WW, the Squad fight the Flash in order to avoid her getting captured but GL( Guy Gardner) comes when they're distracted and abducts WW, Flash escapes. They realise they're screwed as a brainwashed WW Will know the bunker's location and decide to head back to the Hall, there they make a plan to get the attention of Batman so that way they can get the laptop back asap, kill GL, they track him down, Boss Fight, the excuse i imagine as to why he wont kill them right away is that his Will power allows him to snap out of the brainwashed state for a couple of seconds, allowing him to make less lethal constructions and giving the squad time to land a few hits on him, at the end they kill him, Batman arrives, he scalds the Squad and tells them that Waller is not a good person and that they can do better, he leaves but the squad put a tracker on him, they follow him to the batcave, they sneak past him and steal the laptop along with some kryptonite, Luthor stays behind to distract Batman. The Squad get to a Radio tower and with the help of Gizmo Connect the laptop, they return to the Bunker to defend It from the incoming League attack and find Batman along with a beaten Up Luthor, Bruce explains that the shield covering Metropolis stopped any outside interference, and that the laptop connected Argus to Metropolis' military base, with the laptop now active she's free to use nuclear arsenal from inside the shield meaning Waller is planing to nuke Brainiac's ship, killing the Evil Mastermind along with any remaining survivors in the city. At that moment the brainwashed WW arrives, Bruce goes to get the batjet hoping to lead Superman to the nuke while the Squad defend the bunker, boss Fight, they manage to tople over a building onto WW, knocking her out, Superman arrives at the bunker but Batman gets his attention and leads him to the nuke, Sups deveates it to the sky and It explodes, avoiding any damage to neither the ship nor the city, the Squad before leaving to find him are given Kryptonite bullets by Luthor "kill him, it's what you do best", they arrive at a crater and find a Superman weakend by the radiation, Boss Fight, by the end of the Fight the Squad is pointing a gun at a vulnerable Sups, Waller tells them to kill him but Batman's words echoed in their minds "you're better than this", they decide not to pull the trigger and a defeated man of steel escapes, the team regroup at the batcave and get new gear, their new mission, is to kill Brainiac. They infiltrate the ship along with Batman after defeating the Flash and while Batman goes to Brainiac's computer in order to deactivate his control over the League, the Squad fight him in a room he calls the Chamber, Boss Fight (and no, it wouldnt be a Flash re-skin). They defeat him and the ship starts breaking down, Brainiac shambles to the computer in order to instantly explode ship, Batman closes the door to the Chamber, locking himself inside along with Brainiac and tells them that if they stay to Fight him, they along with every city Brainiac conquered Will be destroyed, he'll stay behind to buy them time and ends off the chat saying he's proud of what they've done today, the Squad have no time to mourn and quickly escape the exploding ship carrying the cities. The day is saved and Metropolis builds a statue in honor of Batman and GL, the remaining JL members are put on recovery while the Squad are left to clean Up the city having gained a sense of honor and diginity. Ps: in my version Deadshot is the og white one, meaning i'd remove the whole daughter thing and keep his backstory of killing his brother, aaaand i'd remove Harley from the team, maybe she'd be dlc but for the story she really doesnt fit, no harley could kill tge JL much less the Arkham version

What bothers me is they take one of Supermans greatest arch enemies Brainaic besides Lex Luthor make him a villain for the squad and in my head im thinking " Was this suppose to be a Superman plot ? "

My head cannon reason Harley doesn't wear her old costume is because she knows it won't fit her anymore due to how much her chest has shrunk between this and the Batman games.

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So I never actually played any of the arkham games. I couldn't explain why. They just all passed me by. When experiencing the story, I was unaware this was set in an existing universe. Given the premise I'd never ever have done that because that's... well... freaking stupid. Why would you go out of your way to say "This is the batman you knew and loved for like 2 decades. Let's kill him horribly." I just assumed this was a brand new universe which is why we were treating all these heroes so horribly.

Good thing it's literally impossible for this to be canon.

Imagine is captain boomerang pissed on wonder woman's corpse

I was thinking the roadmap of this game has two new bosses coming which shows green lantern and superman so I’m theorising that they will both have the same mechanics as the ones that have been defeated by the squad before.

It just ocurred to me that switching the protagonist between this and Gotham Knights would have been better. Think about it, the Suicide Squad takes over Gotham after Batman's death is more their thing, while Nightwing and Co helping Wonder Woman free the Justice League from Braniac's control would work as well, and it would have been more respectful towards these characters at the end of the day.

They pulled out Arkham Harley and inserted Margot Robbie Harley to tie her closer to her recent movies, thats all this is.

This game should have been Batman coming out of the shadows to try and save the Justice League and save the world from Brainiac. Maybe Dick, Tim, and even Jason tries to help. ( I know Jason is still broken, but maybe this could be a redemption arc for him to fight along side them and feel like family... that it isn't too late) So you can keep it online and have 4 established characters join the fight against the strongest heroes to ever walk the earth. Also maybe as you beat the league you can have them as playable characters, ( someone would have to play batman though, but I do not think people would have a problem with that ). Its not much, but its some ground work for a more intriguing story that ijs unique, yet familiar. Great video, keep it up man!

The Story ends After arkahm Knight for me :)

You got to take the whole ‘live service’ thing into account. Season 1: Kill the fake Justice League Season 2: Rescue the real Justice League Season 3: Stop Brainiac

This was the criticism I was looking for your spot on with Harley and I agree 100% Arkham Harley was the darkest version of Harley and the writers seemed to completely forget that

Since the multiverse has such a presence in the story, I wish Brainiac's brainwashed heroes were all from different universes. Like one is from the nazi run Earth-X, another is from villain world Earth-3, or someone from a goofy Silver Age world or post-apocalyptic one. This would have been much more entertaining watching the Squad kill them.

Harley never was too bright - something Batman tought to himself in Asylum. I guess besides being able to take on Superman she also can read minds?

even though I personally enjoyed the game you spoke no lies especially about this game shouldn't had been part of the Arkhamverse it really shouldn't have , it would have done so much better and would have avoided so much controversy if it wasn't part of the Arkhamverse

I didn’t care from it even at the start, evil superman is too overdone at this point. We have had injustice, invincible and the boys already.

I like how you incorporated feedback into the video! I agree with introducing Brainiac early on and having his attempts to sway the Squad be more important. It would fit into the whole "don't be a hero" tagline of the story and fit how the main characters are morally ambiguous. Plus, there would be greater stakes!

5:25 You're wrong about Ivy and Harley go rewatch we Harley let out ivy in Arkham asylum. Also if you understand IVY dynamic you won't understand what she meant by Harley and ivy forever They were literally school BFF and both became doctors together

I think batman changing his mind and joining the justice league kind of makes sense. He activated knight fall because there needed to be something bigger than just the batman, and that’s what the justice league is, it’s all of them together.

Why doesn't Brainiac just take control of the SS? Why didn't any of the murderous JL just instantly kill the SS? Why is the JL so underpowered? Why is the Hall Of Justice open to the public along with top secret tech? How did King Shark use the ring? How was ANYONE able to one up Flash!?!?!? Or Superman for that fact!?!?!? There are so many inconsistencies.

Really good critique here, bringing up and diving a fair amount in about a number of the truly big issues of what constructs this game. That said, I may be the only one here but- this game literally made me say out loud “Oh god, just shut up already Batman” after the 10th radio chatter of him because no one in this game shuts up. And then I hated myself because Batman is my 2nd fav superhero and Kevin Conroy was a big part of mine and I’m sure many other’s childhood. This game made me tell one of my fav fictional superheroes to shut up. Then it made me hate myself for doing so, before realizing I should be hating that part of the experience, which I can accept. Still something no one should experience. Especially after paying over 70 bucks for this. Last thing; say what you want about the SS in either movie or any comic adaptation, but still found it wheird that no one on the squad dies here. Online/ game as a service/loop yada yada I know, but still pretty weird. Ironically the namesake fits the JL here seeing as they’re the actual ones who die, but, sigh.

Your review and breakdown was absolutely perfect. Compared to the other reviews I’ve watched which I also agreed with but just the way you present what they should’ve done and the underlying premise of the game makes more sense to me. Great work!

This was actually a much more thoughtful video than what I was expecting.

Personally for me I just wanted a rocksteady Superman game because that would’ve been really awesome and tons of fun in my opinion.

You're completely wrong about Harley. She did have solo adventures in the form of DLC in Arkham City and the whole of Arkham Knight also her saying "Harley and ivy forever" is her talking about her friendship

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Characters in this game don't even move like they did in the previous Arkham games! Forget the stupid narrative and the disrespect. They didn't even do what that crappy Marvel's avengers game did!! All the characters are more or less the same. Even their personalities are similar! Instead of the character's specific talents and powers we get machine guns! Imagine Thor went around shooting enemies!!! It's just another brainless looter shooter with DC skin and a colorful environment. They didn't just piss on the Flash. They pissed on Arkham's legacy...

They only said it's part of the arkham verse to rope people in

The thing that really got me, stupidly, was Arron Cash, last time was saw him, he was GCPD Station Chief, not an Arkham Guard. No way he quit the GCPD again to go back to Arkham as a guard

I really enjoyed exploring this metropolis it has a really good dynamic with rocksteadys Gotham, even in crisis metropolis looks very inviting and hopeful

I actually hated this version of Brainiac. He, like everyone else in this game is way too jokey and quippy. He’s not intimidating and serious enough for Brainiac.

Perfect video. Me being a DC fan mainly because of Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad 2016 im super disappointed in the Harley we got in that game.

I hate how harley quin is in it she has no super powers or super skilled in anything qlso she is every evil she has killed kids

a simple fix for the marketing so the same story could be actually kept in its entirety (except for chiming in brainiac more and earlier) would be to call the game "task force x" and have the kill the justice league aspect be a surprise reveal, where during marketing the tought keeps being "how did brainiac invade metropolis?" only to reveal by mind controlling the JL and forcing the suicide squad to (though despite hating them with a passion) reluctantly kill them

It should have been a Teen Titans game and Batman should have been playing Brainiac all along like he did with Darkseid in many comics. That man has unbreakable will and is pretty much immune to mind control.

1. It's lame. 2. It sucks. 3. It's disrespectful.

One think that i do have to desagre is the "Superman meting Batman" bit is bad, and its actualy kinda nice, i like to think Superman would notice at some point THE GHOST, figure out its Bruce, and try hard to help him with his problems and "Save him" , just feels like the most Superman thing.

Mark Hamil Joker voice: YOU DID WHAT TO THE FLASH?!?!

the 3 biggest problems of SSKTJL: -the story -the gameplay -the monetization tactics

Brainiac should have had multiple phases to his boss fight. First flash, then lantern, then Supes, then batman, then finally him. All the cloned phases being the move sets on crack.

The green lantern ring should have flown away and when does attack the user never seen that happen before

Luckily this Batman didnt have Shark Repellant spray, the world would have ended if Brainiac has that universe's Batman since King Shark never would have gotten 5 feet from Arkham.

I did not like the fact that boomerang did that to flash’s corpse but ngl kings shark “makes sense the gifs have cursed you in any other way” line was hilarious to me 😭

It just a massive scam using superheroes

I think the way you described the Waller and Brainiac similarities is how they will change it to Suicide Squad Save the Justice League in an expansion when they realise that the JL were being controlled just like they were.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Rocksteady tried to fix this with a dlc that involves time travel, like going back to the time before the JL became brainwashed and save them. But I highly doubt it, with this game being live service I don’t think it will be online for long. Even if they did do that, the damage is done! Kevin is sadly no longer with us so I don’t think they would recast him, it would not go very well if they did.

For me the problem was that DC doesn't know that they have alien threats other than Brainiac. Justice League Heroes, Lego Batman 3, DC Universe Online, Injustice 2 and now this game. Like there is Darkseid, the biggest DC Universe threat just chillin

I loved Kevin performance in all the games and this game

There are so many weird choices in this game. Why is King Shark using guns? Why is Captain Boomerang not using boomerangs? If this is in the Arkhamverse, where the hell was the League when an entire major metropolitan city had to be evacuated and was being ripped apart all of Batman’s enemies? What’s the point of Knightfall if all Bruce needed was a pep talk? Are Nightwing, Robin, and Oracle, all of whom loved Bruce dearly and would’ve died for him, ok with the fact they were fed the most malicious lie of their life? Is the rest of the lantern core just on vacation? How is Harley’s handgun strong enough to finish Batman in a bullet but Jason’s entire army outfitted just to kill Batman couldn’t leave a dent?

I enjoyed the evil Batman performance by Kevin Conroy, I just wish it wasn’t constantly overlayed with messages from the handlers and the rest of the Squad, usually at the same time.

Number 1 - live service

I never played the game but I watched all the cut scenes and my favorite parts were Wonder Woman and Flash. Scenes like Flash treating the SS like they arn't even remotely a threat to him and casually rip out Luthor's heart is terrifying while watching Wonder Woman die to Superman while they just stand there powerless to do anything really nails the mere mortals trying to take down gods atmosphere.

Glad I waited. I am an Arkham fan but based on other things I have seen on youtube I decided to wait to see if I'd like it. Not that I was gonna get this game anyways cause killing your favorite heroes as villains doesn't sound like my kinda thing 😅

Trying to tie this game into the arkham universe is basically trying to untangle a giant mess of ties and nots, u eill never make sense out of any of it..

Ok so the only thing is if you watch when flashes thumb came off boomerang didn’t mean it and in his minds it did just come off so that explains that but other than that valid points

I respect you big for criticizing the points that matter. A lot of online discourse is all about how Kevin Conroy was somehow "disrespected" or gender politics, but you actually hit the nail on the head as to why the story doesn't land. It sucks that a DC game featuring some of my fav lesser known characters came out bad.

What really stands out to me, is how your criticisms here are almost identical to mine.

Brainiac in this game is completely different from his comic counterpart. He's about collecting knowledge from every world he comes across, stealing important locations and destroying the remnants. He's never been about recreating his own world throughout the multiverse. He's done mind control before, but that's the only thing besides him being a smart alien with a skull ship he kept.

Problem 4: Rocketsteady killed the main mascot of a franchise. Where do they go from here with batman Lore? It doesn't make good business sense to have a beloved IP, and then kill off the main guy. There will ALWAYS be Batman stories, games, etc etc. So what Rocksteady did in this story will be completely redundant when another batman game comes out.

I hope we go to earth 3 at some point

When I saw the leaks of what they did to batman, I knew I was not going to love this game: as one of Kevin Conroy's last performances, he deserved better. Then there's also the whole lewter shooter aspect, and the desecration of our favorite superheroes, and the glitches

so apparently theres several calanders in the game,all are marked with a date and number,apparently this is calander man,and if you put all those numbers in order of the locations you find them,where batman gets killed there is a hidden calander with a batman logo on it;and all these numbers when translated to the alphabet spell out:HE WILL RETURN;all 12 calanders spell this,calander man has been involved in big easter eggs,looks like a completely intentional calander add

Is flash able to grow back his fingers cause I thought boomerang cut off his thumb? Cause before flash turned evil he had no thumb but when evil he grew it back?

The idea that 90lbs soaking wet Harley could throw a fully decked out dead weight Batman over her shoulders and carry him is just insulting to our intelligence

Even Batman’s main villains has shown more respect for batman during the Arkham series game over scenes

It seems like the Gotham knights was supposed to be canon until they decided to make suicide squad canon to market their live service game.

Ironically, your version of Arkham Knight would’ve fit this universe, a bit better since Batman never fakes his death so it would be more believable he would be willing to join a justice league.

Fun fact, there has been a few games that gave me a migrane by just playing, Suicide Squad is the very first to ever give me a migrane just watching gameplay. I am impressed by that.

Why is flash running in circle instead of directly ripping their hearts out like he did with luthor ?

I think it is important to remember, especially with how mad people got online, that the story is not finished. I think it is very obvious that the JL is coming back. But I do think it is very fair to argue it was a silly way to open up the story many people refused to buy the game because the JL, specifically Arkham Batman, were killed so even if the story gets really good they will be selling copies at discounted prices - how is that a good business strategy 😅

The real question is, when are you rewriting/rebuilding this entire concept to fit into your Arkham Knight timeline. Obviously this would have to be a complete redo on every level and a massive undertaking, but I think we would all love to see it. Hell, you can even do it in the original arkham timeline, rather than your rework.