For all the people that feel bad for Sisyphus, it should be mentioned that he also regularly murdered merchants that would come into his kingdom and steal all their stuff.
@@gabrielantunez7642 sure sounds like it XD maybe the merchants were punished capital style because of tax evasion, and they committed tax evasion because they had hefty sacrifice tributes to Zeus.
You should do the story of Hypnos, god of sleep, who tricked Zeus by putting him to sleep so hera could get back at hercules. Zeus eventually woke up and was infuriated, and chased Hypnos so he could punish him. Hypnos ran to the comfort of his mother, Nyx. Nyx is one of the most powerful gods in Greek mythology to where even Zeus fears her. Nyx is known to be a very sweet and loving deity unlike the Olympians, despite her power. If there's one thing you don't do, it's NEVER mess with Nyx's children. Zeus took one look at Nyx, and let Hypnos off scott free, fearing her wrath if he punished her child
I like another version of the myth of Sisyphus more: in with he didn’t flatter tanathos and didn’t give him the neck and arm chains, but said that the handcuffs tanathos brought weren’t strong enough. So Tanathos would prove they were strong enough by putting them on himself. This way he tricked him into locking himself up and trapping him.
That doesn't make much sense though. Why wouldn't he just put them on Sisyphus to prove it? You'd think the God of Death would have some confidence in his own tools.
@@Me-vl4vk It really doesn't. I'm pretty sure that if someone can be magically punished in the Underworld, then they can magically be made to never get used to their circumstance. We know enchantments like that exist considering the story of Cassandra who, despite always being correct, was still never believed.
the first guy was punished because Zeus couldn't keep it in his' pants the second guy was punished after Zeus had overlooked his' misdeeds multiple times already the third guy was punished because Zeus didn't like that he was boasting about having slept with Zeus' wife whom he constantly cheats on
1 Being a rat and snitching on people is wrong.... so he needed to be dealt with..... 2 killing ur own son to feed him to his grandfather Is SICK....DEFINITELY needed to be punished for that as he took enjoyment out of serving up human flesh..... the third guy.... I don’t think he should have been boasting about what he did but he was the only person in my eyes that didn’t deserve what he got as punishment
Such beautiful, elegant piano playing...all while hearing about a king that served his son to the gods in a stew...🤫 Good stories and storytelling none-the-less..
He kidnapped the god of death killed his guest which is the mosy reason why the gods want him dead but it soon goes downhill for him when he lock up the god of death which led to a lot of bad things happen for no ones dying which is why he got sent to tartarus for locking up the gods and tricking hades for giving him a chance to say goodbye to his wife for a proper burial and he decided to trick him by getting the chance to love once again which is wrong
@@jaythelap6089 The snitching about the kidnapping wasn't the main problem in the original myth, but rather an example of his lack of fear of the gods. The murdering of his guest was the main reason why he was punished to death.
That mythos was created to reject some ancient tradition common in all human societies of sacrificing a Son to the Gods, something that is very unproductive for society, going against the very own reason why religions exist in the first place. Religion practices should never surpass their societal function, otherwise these kind of things become common
A lot of these punishments in the after world,from Greek mythology,inspired Dante in his "Inferno" -the whole idea of the punishment fitting the crime as in Gilbert and Sullivan's "Mikado."
Hold on: I thought that Sisyphus earned Zeus’ ire because he murdered travelers to Corinth. That would be a violation of the sacrosanct law of Xenia/hospitality, which was a big religious no-no in Ancient Greece, and still is in Hellenic Polytheism today.
Usually that's exactly the reason--him promptly spending years dodging death afterward was what earned him his torturous punishment. This channel evidently conveniently left that out.
I can see they also left out the fact that it was Persephone who Sisyphus fooled in order to return back to the land of the living. She and Hades were apoplectic when Sisyphus died of old age. Another reason why you do not lie to the Goddess of the Underworld.
This version of the myth I've heard only recently while the one where he killed guests was the one I heard. I've also heard versions where he did both and basically the reporting og the kidnapping was what had gotten the target on his back and the guest killing was the bullet. And that's on top of him kidnapping a god and tricking another thus screwing with the natural order of things
In Germany we have a word called "Sisyphusarbeit" (Sisyphean task), which decribes a pointless and hard effort that will never be completed. I´m new to Greek Mythology, so this was an interesting discovery!
He was hated by everyone too cuz.. Well people doesnt like death unless they are suicidell so pretty sure that a being that is the inevitable end of life was really suprised anyone gave him gifts cuz they tought he was handsome
So Sisyphus witnessed a kidnapping, reported to the victim's father, even provided a glorious source of drinking water for his people through this, and he's the bad guy?
He kind of messed with death, war, and the underworld. He should have just accepted death and truthfully and without ill intent, made his case to Hades the first time. The outcome would have been a lot better.
@@crispysatyr0355 It depends on which version you got, but yeah the one I knew was that he murdered his guests so Zeus ordered his death. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Roman versions of these myths do more to place blame on the olympians...the olympians weren't great to begin with but still.
No that’s wrong in the original version aka the Greek version he killed his guests and stole their valuables and even killed his wife and married his underaged niece
I like the fact that the gods of the Greek religion aren't perfect, they have emotions and can even be fooled, they look just like some kind of higher race.
@@trippleprod.1980 I wouldn’t say demons. They are like, more severe humans? When they do bad it’s worse than what humans do but when they do something good it’s a better than what any human can do.
Also, some of them, like zeus are literally just horrible people. Are we forgetting that he kidnapped and sexualls assaulted many women and let’s not forget the hypocrite Athena.
7:28"They know what Tantalus was doing due to their omniscience" yet they did not know that he is going to serve them flesh of Tantalus son. If they are omniscient they already know the future
I don't think his original punishment was going to be the whole rock up a hill thing, Zeus just ordered Thanatos to end his life. His tedious task was really more for holding Thanatos hostage and then lying to Hades and trying to cheat death. I mean, when you jump bail, there's always repercussions 🤷♀️
@@randallmokjialung3592 It depends on what you've done in life and the type of person you turned on to be. Tartarus is where the bad go to suffer unyielding punishments for their evils. The good and the heroic are chosen to live in the Elysium Fields which is supposed to be a peaceful paradise. If you die without two coins placed on your eyes (like in an accident away from family and friends and without them knowing you died) your soul is doomed to wait on the shore of the Styx for 100 years until you are somehow given two coins to pay Charon to fairy you over to Hades for judgement. But only for a special few, they are chosen to reside in Olympus with the gods and become one in return because of distinct characteristics like Heracles. Some are even given the honour of becoming constellations like Chiron, the centaur.
@@areiaaphrodite you forgot the fields of asphodel were normal ppl were put. Also tartarus was a prison (and a god) for the monsters that are killed, you were probably thinking about the fields of punishment were wrong doers go. Tartarus is more famous than the punishment fields, so most stories say tartarus.
I loved the take on Tantalus from the Percy Jackson books. He was let out on parole to be in change of the camp that trained half-blood Olympian heroes. The curse was still on him though and everything from cans of soda, bottles of water, hamburgers, and pizza all flew from him if he reached for them.
Can you explain your first sentence there? And how the word take has been used? I can't understand and can't remember what the phrase really was or what it meant. Thanks!
@@name2l Well my whole post explains the first sentence. But the Percy Jackson books were a modern spin on Greek heroes. As for The Tornemnt of Tantalus, it's what you want most always being just beyond your reach. It's where the word "tantalize" comes from.
@@name2l Well , I m not a native speaker but I have seen this phrase a lot , I think here the word "take" is used as a noun meaning "opinion/what they have to say regarding the matter" so like the person who commented said "I loved the take on Tantalus from Percy Jackson books" , it means that they liked the way the person has put forward their opinion/perspective on Tantalus . [ Also I have just started reading Percy Jackson so it's still fresh in my mind].I hope I could make some sense 😅.
Always a yummy treat when you come by this neck of the woods. Another amazing presentation. Zeus... the master playa. Yet he runs away from Nyx. Oh ancient stories are so much fun. Love the comic book format.
I've been watching this channel since 6th grade. And it was still in 50k subs. Now I'm in 9th grade. And almost a million. I'm So proud to be a part of this channel!
In old Greece gods weren't known to be fair towards humans, they had their own standing and morals. In moderndays we often think of god(s) being good or evil, but that's just the bias of our times, in the past people thought of it way more nuanced.
His original punishment was just to die by Zeus' order but I think his punishment got more severe for the audacity of holding Thanatos hostage and then lying to Hades and trying to escape death 🤷♀️
another version of the myth is that he was to be killed due to killing his guest to steal from them, violaeting the laws of hospitality, a big nono. then the capturing of thanatos thing just made it worse so that is why he got the punishment. se for example the video overly sarcastic productions did on sisyphus. i do think that the version of the myth that was chosen in this video wasn't the best given the alternatives.
Sisyphus chains Thanatos the God of Death Hades furious at how things are becoming chaotic in his realm for not receiving any newcomers Meanwhile, Charon enjoying his free time from lifetime service
Reading through the comments a lot of people think Sisyphus got too harsh a punishment. Here's the thing the video passes over it, but it was years before they found Thanatos, and Thanatos being locked up didn't stop sickness and war. all the people suffering for years from illness and pain were unable to die and had to continue suffering more and more as the years went on until Thanatos was freed.
So we Sisyphus a guy who outsmarted death, tantalus a criminal ruler who sacrificed his son for power, and Ixon a perverted king who was given forgiveness.
in the original myths he was never evil or scheming. He was a bit glum being the god of death and all but not evil. He just had a very inhuman job and did it like anyone.
My thoughts on the 1st story: The fact that he lied on his wife after swindling Hades, Ares and Thanatos goes to show you why he remained in Tartarus after that stunt he pulled with Zeus. I would have divorced him if I were his wife. My thoughts on the 2nd story: Treachery toward his son by having him murdered and cooked while he lied to Zeus shows how he was corner-cutting to give the Gods a sacrifice. My thoughts on the 3rd story: Dude got into Tartarus for betraying his father-in-law and his wife while defiling the household of Zeus. Wow!
The one with Sisyphus’ punishment is too annoying, imagine pushing a boulder up a hill and later coming down, dude’s got the metaphor for the cycle of repeating, it’s kinda sad, I know that he did some very unforgivable things, but is it that bad for that? Why pushing a boulder? It doesn’t represent any one of those actions, maybe die and become alive and die again for escaping death 2 times (I think).
To a person like Sisyphus would that really be a punishment, he would spend his time figuring out every detail of his situation, if he could out smart death surely he would eventually out smart a rock.
Sisyphus’s punishment can hurt in a lot of ways, but it’s the maddening nature of his punishment that really hurts because the redundancy of rolling a boulder up said plane only to have it roll back down and be forced to roll it back all over again, which caused Sisy to lose what he was so proud of in life: his mind.
@@smartguy458 sisy, lol...but yeah, that was the idea. the task was very mundane but it made him restless, impatient and eventually, mad (as in, not knowing how to solve this problem)
So Zues got angered at a good king telling the river god he kidnapped his daughter which is ungod like and wanted him dead. Second one was justified. And third one he felt sympathy on a serial killer who burned alive two people? Then not punish him at all until bragging about his wife then Zues punishes him. So overall he is a terrible god with some form of bipolar disorder.
A great rendition of three interesting stories, my favourite Greek play has always been Tantalus. The only downside with the play ‘Tantalus’ is the fact it is usually run in 3 to 6 parts over two to three days, but it’s worth it if you like Greek plays.
You forgot to mention that the shackles and chains sysiphus used to emprison thanatos were made by Hephaestus, god of the forge and fire, and they were indestructible even with a power of a god
RE: Sisyphus The first volume of Neil Gaiman's Sandman suddenly makes so much more sense in context. It's a reimagining of Sisyphus, but where Morpheus (Dream) is captured instead of Thanatos (Death). Very cool
Nice 👍 I was wondering in the future can you do other stories based on Hindu or Chinese mythology, Pacific islander, or maybe South American folklore I like to hear stories about them
Me so confused because the video said that they went to tarturus when in other myths they went to the underworld in the fields of punishment. Hades does not have control over Tarturus.
Underworld is separated in Tartarus a dead body of a primordial and campos elizius( heaven in Greek mythology) he only control the entrance of that realm Because his wife control Campos elizius and Tartarus has no true master only torment
Sisyphus: “He will spend eternity in perpetual exhaustion and disappointment, always laboring only to inevitably fail.” Tantalus: “Eternal hunger, eternal thirst. And to spend forever with satisfaction always in view, always within reach, but never being able to reach it.” Ixion: “lol idk dude use snakes to tie him down and set him on fire?”
Three ending mythological stories about those three, traumatized me. That's just like feeling or being cast out into the outer darkness when there will be weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
Could the story of the three brothers from Harry potter be loosely based on these myths? Tantalus died from the desire of power, dining with the mighty gods and bragging about it.even his punishment is linked with the desire. So he is the first brother. Ixion's downfall started when he fell in love with a woman(Hera) whom he couldn't be with. Like the second brother who misses his late fiancee. Both of them sleep with a shadow of the woman they loved. Finally, i like to think Sisyphus as the youngest brother,the smarter of the third who cheats death until he grows very old. Then he does welcome death, knowing he can't avoid the inevitable. I know this is far from a perfect match,the moral of the two stories is completely different but watching the video it just hit me!
