The 3 Myths of the Indian Education System | Vinay Menon | TEDxThiruvananthapuram 

*There are 2 things missing in our education system* :- 1. *Education* 2. *System*

We dont need education ministers We need education for ministers. Like if u agree..

Art is not important. Me : EARTH without ART is just EH

“No one has ever changed the world by doing what the world has told them to do”

I used to be a software engineer.... But i recovered 😂😂

" Children cheats on tests because the system values *_-grades-_* more than children values *_learning_* " - *Neil* *Degrasse* *Tyson*

Schools killing thinking Everyone : *it's ok*

One of the most common myth : overpressure = hardwork= success

No matter how hard you try, you can't put it in the mind of your parents 😌 Parents: Is this why I bought you a smartphone?

You said you're a teacher, I can say that your students are gifted

That's why the cbse has introduced two more chapters in math books 1) application of differentiation 2) applications of integration

Please make this guy Education Minister of India...He's so clear with his concepts & questions...Current Education Minister of India is a Doctor without degree & believes that astrology is greater than science... - NEET Aspirant

Indian education system in a nutshell : the more info you swallow before exam and more you vomit on exam, the better.

This teacher is what we all want, but only few get

"We go to school just to get good grades, and then forget everything" Me 😒😒

I was studying for exams but this seems more important than exams.

"All I know is I know nothing" -Socrates, greek philosopher and beard enthusiasist

Audience failed to understand his humor and depth of thoughts. Most inspiring and thought provoking talk !!!

Fun fact: it's the British education system in which we are learning and it was made for factory workers they change there system but we didn't. And per year lakhs of factory workers are produced in India. That's the reason india is not developing because of this engineering mindset you should respect every job ,art,profession etc in order to make a change.

Me in 1st standard : I will become a pilot Parents : ok Me in 2nd standard : I will become an engineer Parents : ok Me in 3rd standard : I will become a scientist Parents : ok Me in 5th class : I will become an astrophysicist Parents : ok Me in 7th class : what am I gonna do? Parents : you are going to take science and become a *Lawyer* and that's final. *"Dreams shattered"*

The greatest scam ever told to children- Abhi padh lo, badh mein to aaram hi aaram.

i die when he said." we dont need a poet running around a factory"

6:54 the all mighty syllabus 10:47 art is not important 14:10 discipline requires punishment

When you say "Indian Education System" the first thing that pops up is an examination hall :)

I scored less in maths in my 2nd PUC board exam , not because my answer was wrong , it's just because I didn't solve in the way, how it was solved in textbook.

"OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IS ABOUT HOW GOOD YOU REMEMBER THINGS!! "......so well said!! 👍👍

Most of the time, whenever i chat with other guys from different countries in discord, i feel that they are so relaxed about studies, their parents never force them, they know that they will get a job And we are stressed from the age of 3yrs to study and go on with a stressed life

"Thomas Macaulay: British historian and angry old man" "Wendell Johnson: American psychologist and unable to straighten his tie"

"padoge likhoge toh banoge nawaab kheloge kudoge to banoge gawaaar" that just sums up the Indian education system.

A very important point here, about 'Art'. Art and is so stereotyped and misunderstood in the Indian psyche (its all over the world but India holds distinction in it) that its nothing short of a national tragedy. Art is not just about becoming a painter or a musician. Its about how you look at life and your place in it. It should be a part of the mighty syllabus in all academic pursuits.

You've said everything that's been running through my mind in 12th :(

The audience was the perfect example of a failed education.

_"Real Humour is only for Geniuses, not for perfect Mug up's"_ -Me

I have exam tomorrow and I am here taking out my anger 🤣🤣🤣

3:12 Man spoke the truth. I'm from Bangladesh and education system isn’t much different here either. Recently due to pandemic break, I was able to learn basic computer programming. Then came the assignments and now I have to again focus on writing assignments that everyone knows are copied but nobody cares. So yes, I learned programming *despite* the education system, not *because* of it.

The 2k dislikes.....the audience who just came to have the coffee and got exposed

If cricket is introduced in Indian schools then after knowing that cricketers can earn more money than an Engineer or a Doctor, Every child will be forced to take cricket field. And then govt. will introduce a degree for cricket. After that in upcoming yrs India will produce max. No. Of cricketers but then we have the worst indian cricket team bcz many good cricketers will not able to clear theoretical exams in which toppers have answered all questions as they are good at remembering the things taught in the classroom in blackboard- bench form. Practicality doesn't matter! Sounds very familiar.... Same situation with Engineers and doctors.... Everyone choose eng. Or doctory just to get a job...not to help others or to create something new or Innovate things... India produces maximum number of engineers a yr...but lacs of engineers are doing some other jobs or things to get enough of money to keep moving,keep living. This clears that a kagaj ka patta means nothing. Even if you don't have that{(degree) ,Which tells that u r an engineer.(theoritically)practically to khud ko bhi doubt hoga} u can create things and do something good for the nation and the world. As cricket can only be learnt in field and not in books, Same with engineering, it can't only be learnt in books....

I'm 15 and what he said about art is so true. I am an average student and that's how i got average I memorize as much as i can. The fact that no one pays attention to art makes me never want to study anything with all my heart and mind. I love music, I started singing and dancing from a young age and knowing the fact that that I won't be allowed to continue that as a part of my future goals, I was afraid to tell my parents about my dream. Now that i don't care about what people say and decided to follow what i love, I took the decision of telling my mother about it. I told her, "mom I'm really into music. I want to join an arts school and learn things like filming, producing and composing and also practice my skills. am i allowed to or can I?" The answer from her was," Dare you think about arts just choose medical or non medical. Get a job, earn fixed amount of money and settle with peace." It did hurt but i kinda found it funny. Well lucky enough that my dad was also an art student and he graduated from SOPA. He totally supports me. Hope my mom will too some day. The education was never the problem but the way education is sold out is the problem.

Got my 10th boards cancelled. Was fascinated by coding and making AMV's. Spend a month or two to learn both of them. Loved it a lot,wanted to pursue my dream of becoming a 5 star coder. Here I am studying PCM. ~JEE ASPIRANT.

While in 7th I saw an ad on the TV about the IITs..... And got impressed by the campus... And why I don't know I said to my Dad that I will do IIT🥺... And he caught those words and now I'm in Engineering.. 🥺

Speaker: enlightens audience and has good jokes Audience: cricket noices

"Creativity is making mistakes, art is which one to keep. "

The bad thing of most parents is that they want their children to become what they want and not what their children wants.. So sometimes when their children does find something they have interest on.. The parents will wait for the children to fail.. Instead of supporting and motivating they will say to their children "see we told u so now do what we say" this statement to children completely devotivates them The moral is that every children in the beginning will fail obviously but the thing is that is the point when parents should encourage them the most...

When he said that , Indian education system is about how much you memorise that hit me hard as I took admission in one of the best college but what actually happens there is they wants answers in the exam same way as it is written in the text. And since school rely on understanding the concept rather than mugging up I am so much stressed:(. I am very thankful that finally someone talk about this topic🌻

I'm sick and tired of our education system. Edit: I'm now in Bsc second semester and it has become somewhat better than before, though the lack of options for students sucks. (our colleges don't have so many subjects especially in biology) (Also I had to struggle for admission in college cause everyone else had gotten around 90% and I had a low percentage (science stream) and even now students have faced such trying times due to the pandemic. I just hope everyone puts their mental health at the forefront.) I have just passed the 12th standard and don't really want to study anymore. Education has become a chore for me. I haven't really had fun or felt satisfied studying for many years now and doubt that I will in the future. Of course I have to complete my education else I won't get a job but the choices are so limited. And honestly I have come to hate the education system. I had always been a curious child. I loved to read different books and gain knowledge but school killed that in me. Since std 7 I have constantly been a poor student because I'm not good at memorizing things. I liked to be creative but creativity won't get me marks. And getting compared with the better scoring students always makes me jealous and unhappy. I have tried to kill myself once. Self harmed many times because I couldn't take it anymore but always stopped myself at the final moments. Let me tell you now I have trouble trying to write a single article or passage without help because I have been conditioned to copy and paste. I used to love writing but now I can't even think new ideas. This is what education has done to me.

Apart from the great points he's made, the audience is sleeping on his jokes. Damn.

Very Much relatable as an Ongoing 11th school student [Science steam] I have been always one who asks multiple questions and striving to learn something new but the school just doesn't care about the "curiosity", "Creativity" And the "knowledge" which would be judged by How much you score Which is totally absurd...I can say that I'm experiencing everything you have been through but Can't change anything even If we strive to...Our fate...Even though India stands in a proud place forwarding in the spot of education, they are suppressing many Talented and skilled students.

I wonder how it will feel like to have a lecturer like him on stage...in college..... Amazing 👍

I really respect this man. In today's Indian education system everything revolves around memorizing power.

It was so awkward at some points when people were not laughing at his hilarious humour..... People didn't laugh before he told them that he was a stand-up comedian .

I'm an artist.. I create and my school tells me abstractly to do a job LMAO Even teachers support jobs Over happiness 💀

Brilliant. I am an Engineer myself. I completed post-graduation in Engineering and now working as a Copywriter in Digital Marketing & Advertising. What is the practical use of all the things I've learned in 6 years in my professional life !!? Nothing.

OMG, the crowd is so unresponsive!!! Hats of the speaker that he is still speaking with the same enthusiasm. I love his one-liners and way of speaking!!!

Guess who regulates the education system... The irony is.....The people who lacks education 🤣🤣

im indian, and im 15 yrs old I live in san jose, California and we have to go through the same bullsh*t of learning things which will never help me future, I just want to say its everywhere and not just in india

My eyesbrows went up in shock when he said "I consider myself an artist." 😂 Then he said "I know a lot of artists are cringing right now." It hit hard 😂😂😂

Creativity is like an illegal trait to have, in India!

*Thomas babington Macaulay* "British historian and angry old man" 😂😂😂😂😂

I like how he didn't expected much and just wanted one more hand raised

I m 16 year old and understood his humorous and contextual jokes , the audience didnt even get half of the jokes now that shows the beauty of our 'educational' system that the older audience has been trained in

There is nothing such as "silly question" , there are only "silly intentions". APPLAUDABLE 👏

11:41 Shoutout to the single person clapping.

I am scratching my head! Why so many dislikes for such a wonderful, pleasant & enlightening talk????????????????????????????

when he cracks a good joke, no of ppl clapping= 2 no of ppl laughing= 0 no of ppl understanding= minus 5

Such a poor audience man. Great one liners being underappreciated ;_;

I used to be an software engineer but then i recovered... hahahahaha

Sometimes awareness of the fact that your result doesn’t define can help a person get a reason not to jump of a roof

4:54 - an angr old man lol i died laughing 😂

Honestly, So damn true. I am 15 years old and I am a student. And honestly this is the situation in India. Not only for the education system but many things. If someone ask me to either choose to sit in class and let teacher explain you, where as nothing goes into our minds it's a total waste of 40-45 minutes or we could have rather taken to labs and discover some stuff on our own. What will we memorize more easily I guess the things we find out on our own. For example I still remember what our guide told us on the trip to Jaipur which I went back in class 3rd or 4th but I don't remember what our teacher explained us today. Now Many you would say it's just because you didn't pay attention in your class, No it's about experiencing of things. I remember the question that my teacher asked in revision in our class and I gave wrong but I don't remember the question that are teacher gave us today. It's true. Mistakes aren't allowed. Plus there is one more Myth that he didn't mentioned but I would like to THE NOTEBOOKS. Honestly, tell me what's the use of making us write a hundred pages of questions and asked to maintain them where as at last they are of no use. Those notebooks might develop a practice of writing but it's of no use when it won't would help nothing in my career. Also we all give away those notebooks for recycling or the "kabadi wala". We kids or teens are made shut saying "we know better or hamna apsa zyada donniya dekhi ha". I am weak at maths and physics I just don't find it interesting just because my base isn't so good and I don't move forward in any chapters until unless I understand the concept or the chapter I am doing. I am a mediocre student but I am good at singing and dancing and I like playing football and badminton. Last year I tried for getting into the school team of badminton but just because I am overweight and I wasn't able to cope the distance with other girls and was left out the teacher said I can't take you in the team it is a lot of distance though I was raw and good at playing and I would have loved to learn how to play and I could have played more well and even loose some weight. This is what Indian education system is. You give us workshops for not bullying not body shame but I would say it all comes from our roots. We all just ignore the fact that how you all are forcing us to sit at one place in one room for 8 hours, but what's the use when nothing is going in our brain when aren't able to understand. We are kids of 21st century we are curious ones. Yeah I won't even deny that some of us would miss use the freedom we will be given. But in a sea of 100 fishes 90 are always interested in doing new things but 10 are interested in misusing it, but why the 90 should suffer just because of those 10. Right now what the situation is those 10 fishes are also polluting the other 90 because they also think they are on the same boat. We are kids always eager to do new things learn new things but this system of notebooks and books, classes and nothing is just ridiculous. It's not only my opinion it's the opinion of many like me but no one bold enough to speak up. In my class there is a boy, who has failed in 9th and is repeating it but he's good at instrumentes. But the teacher has degraded him so much that now he doesn't even care to take out the book when period starts. Degradation makes us "dihaat". My English teacher always used to point me out if I did something wrong but why always me when others were equally there and I don't know suddenly she became nice to me and ask me now I am more interested in her period, suddenly there is a big smile on my face when I hear it's English period. Even if I write paragraphs about this topic no one would care it's just gonna be a "comment". But in conclusion India needs to upgrade in many things in its education system and in its thinking to. If you are gonna apply the same old methods on us it won't work whether you say it's gonna help you in your life or anything it's gonna be a blahblah for most of us. It's 2018 and the 21st century today technology rules more than human thinking does. The day we all students become exited for going school because it's gonna be something new and different from yesterday. That's the day I will say India has updated, till then I'd we all still living in 19's cause that's what are thinking is and that's what we apply. I appreciate are ansestors for making our base but that that base also need updation. A cake's base won't make it an eligible cake we need to put it in the Owen for baking that's when it becomes eligible.

They were having similar problems lot of married couples do -COMMUNICATION😂😂😂😂bang on

The line ending at 10:32 shot directly into heart

I am literally crying, I always wanted to be an artist, I have bought several paints, pencil and papers....but still I couldn't use them because of this integration and differentiation...I always think what is creativity...what requires to be creative

Sir similar questions arise in my mind. I presently look at kids, having a very stressed life right at a very young age. Everyone wants to top in class, no one agreed to fail, motivated to think differently, learn something new and applying it. We study seed germination just at the age of 10 but don't plant a single tree in the entire life, even knowing its values !! The life has now been defined for everyone, spending it rather than living it, in exactly the prescribed age limits for passing high school, graduation, job, marriage, children, and the same follows. The same monotonous routine, just seeking approval from everyone to be judged as a good person. Fear of questioning doubts so that we don't get rejected or made fun by the society. The entire life we are cramming things without noticing that education is meant to enhance thinking level.

Science can be fun but certainly not in the way it is taught in institutions.

This video is literally underrated.

Have been in India for 3 years now, and these people are so friendly I make friends everywhere I go.

Last line is great : "Instead of 5 hands going up, i'd like to see atleast 6 hands going up" - Real expectations:)

This time RU-vid recommendation worked really well..😎😂

The points that he made are great and the way he made them is epic.

How cute he's n his voice 😍..??? simple person r always cute❤️

We study in 2019, with syllabus of 1900, why?

On first day of my first year engineering calculus period I told my "teacher" I didn't understood the integrals very well on previous school hoping she'd offer some help, instead she told me " you should've studied back then, you'll fail the exams". Guess what happened on the first calculus exam.

I remember every time the teacher started a new topic in math, I would ask the teacher where I would use it. In 9th, I asked where polynomials would be used, and she said, "It won't. You just gotta do it since it's in the syllabus. You're smart, you should have no problem in understanding it."

Wow... Got totally mesmerized with the exciting speech. Beautifully depicted the most audacious parts of our education system since inception.

basic myths : >studying is a good habbit (reality : its a choice and interest) >good marks implies good at studies >engineering from iit brings best jobs,pay and solves global problems >morbid math brain beats joyful artistic brain >job is the greatest goal of life >seeming serious and study oriented implies greater intelligence >Math and science nerdism holds respect over those with good health,civic sense,manners,outlook,social circle,practical and street skills.

Dont worry man, I laughed at your drug joke. That was comedy gold!

Damn...he was so precise with his thoughts..change is much much needed!!

Am i the only one who was taught differentiation and integration perfectly well along with a whole subtopic about their applications just in 11th grade? Like, there is so much more about applications of derivative and integrals in 12th. I mean-

I loved you Malayali English accent....You proved you can talk great language without having to have a pretencious accent...

Socrates - "Beard Enthusiast" Me: *dead*

This talk is amazing!!!! I really want to work towards this aspect when I grow up!! Indian society is growing, we are questioning way that are not relevant to us instead of just accepting it. I feel good to be part of such society...

"They r best despite the education system, not because of it" he summed this up pretty much here

Humans have even forgot the right way of living,we just know that study work hard and die........... 😣😣😣

This needs more views. BTW calculus is used in Art. Problem is not in calculus, problem is the way it's taught in most of our schools.

Great speech sir.... You have pointed towards real problem of today's education system. We are just following what others have left out for us, not following which we really intrusted and good at.

5 years from the video release and not a single thing has changed damn how are we living with this

This deserves many more views! Hats off to you, mate

Well done bro. i studied engineering in private college under Calicut university during 2007-11, what i saw around me was, 90% students (nor teachers) have no clue what they were learning, They were playing some memorising game, rest of passionate 10% was either bored of the useless classes and dropped out or continued with tons of backlogs. Our education system needs to rebuild from scratch. No just teaches and colleges, but universities and education ministry too.

we develop interest & the urge to learn when we understand what we study & it connects more to the heart than just the mind

Ncert book- suggest me some topics for it/computer science subject Everyone- c++,java+ understanding word processing...... Ncert- so the topics are who invented computer, in which year he invented it blah blah blah.... just salute to indian education system👏👏🙄