The 6 Things Abusive Churches Say 

In some contexts, yes. Motives differ across the board. Some do it on power trips. Others, to use their congregation as a means to become a big name pastor. Still others from a deep place of hurt, not even realizing what they are doing to others.

Just like the world.

I totally agree !

Tithing has nothing to do with money but food. The wolves in sheep's clothing doesn't want people to find that out.

​@@dougarters2691THEY ARE OF THE WORLD ? THAT TELLS A TRUE CHRISTIAN EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO KNOW ( MATT 7:16-20 ) AND YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS .

True. I didn’t think of that 🤔 A lot of Christian confuse those as well. Good Christians. Well-meaning. And the devil uses that against them.

@@AaronJDaigle I am 56 years old and grew up in a cult like church, from age 8-16. Because of their teaching I have had life long confusion of deciphering my conviction from condemnation. The Bible talks about there is no condemnation in Christ. I hold to that believe when I feel the devil is using my past teachings against me..

I was involved with a college ministry where they were big in having the idea of discipleship and each church member had an elder who was supposed to meet once e a week to have that elder make sure you were studying the bible and various other things they were concerned earne.he was overall a good teacher but sometimes i sensed i was being misled to do things that would benefit the church but not always backed up by scripture and if I resisted their leadership I was told I was disobeying God because according to him whatever he told me it came from God .I eventually left but still followed Jesus but am very cautious about doing something just because an elder says it's true.i did learn to study the Bible on my own that how I k ew this man didn't always get his inspiration from scripture

It's great to see how God is using your life, Aaron! We are doing well, thank the Lord! We pray you and your wife are too!

When you tell the members how dirty and sinful they are but you don’t tell them about the finished works of Christ and that you are free from sin or tell you how bad you are but not how to get out of the situation

God bless you too. And yeah. I know what you mean, about it taking a year to heal. It’s real trauma. Just bc it’s been swept under the rug doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I pray God continue leading you forward, into His full plan for your life and your relationship with and in His real church.

Glad you got away in only a year. I was in bondage for 21 years.

Man that’s painful, and embarrassing. Not cool. I’m sorry to hear you had to go through this man.

@@AaronJDaigle I survived.

We’ve experienced this.

@@Freedom20241 Sorry to hear that. It's pretty troubling. I learnt to ignore it, and stop being honest with any kind of leadership, bad I know. For me, this is far in my past, but I've lost so many "friends" by removing myself from former churches. By leaving, I became one of the "black sheep", and not the only one by far. I hope that you find a good path through.

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Thank you my friend. I won’t say I didn’t hesitate, but truth must be spoken. It just needs to be done in the right spirit. And that’s the balance I sought before making the video.

You are very welcome.@@AaronJDaigle

Spot on. I plan to delve into that at some point on the channel. It’s specifically a jezebel spirit (which yes, is linked to witchcraft, which yes, is about control and manipulation). Many people have an oversimplified idea of this spirit as being some promiscuous woman. Not the case at all. Again, you’re hitting the nail on the head, and I do believe expounding on this topic (and linking it to the context of these videos) is in order. 👍

@@AaronJDaigle excellent

Actually, Derek Prince has some really good teaching on this subject and how to deal with it. It's a really good series I was directed to years ago.

We are all one body and each member has a role 👍

Very true. That happens a lot. "You can do anything else in church but you're not preaching" type of thing.

Ok

That's right .

Yes. Thank you!

@@AaronJDaigleI have no idea why it’s so hard to leave a bad church…. I’ve been going to mine for over 40 years, but if I want to leave…. would just stop going!

Purpose being is exploitation!

You don't belong to an organization. You belong to Christ.

Sadly 🤦‍♂️

Yes. Those things can often be so one-sided. And skewed.

Smiled reading this. Not that you had to go through it, but that seeing the video surfaced up the areas God is wanting to heal inside you. Covering you in prayer today.

@@AaronJDaigle Amen! Exactly that. Thank you for your obedience in sharing!

Yes. That tactic is used to prevent you from voicing it. Be empowered. Do it kindly. But speak up.

It's called DARVO. Deflect and reverse victim and offender.

It says to mark them and separate

Yep !

Oh I know. This happened to me also. That spirit of control is consistent.

Thank you for sharing your story Denise. I am so sorry you’re experiencing this. It sounds like you’re doing your best to honor God by respecting the leaders but that they’re taking advantage of this and using it against you. As for what was said to you about fasting, I’ll share the principle with you that I live my life by. The Bible always wins. What I mean is that when I want, think, hear something, but that Bible contradicts that, I go with the Bible every time. That said, Jesus said “When you fast…” (Matthew 6:16). He didn’t say “if you fast.” He didn’t tell his disciples “some of you will fast but some of you won’t.” He said, “when” you do it. Therefore, Jesus assumes we will fast. So in your case, the person who discouraged you from fasting is wrong. And God (through His Word) is right. The principle is - what does the Bible say? This can be applied to all areas of life. And to spiritual abuse for that matter.

@@AaronJDaigle Hello, thank you. That's a great principle and that's what all believers ought to do. I think some of us place so much trust in our leaders...because we're kinda supposed to because these are the people who are supposed to guide us and help mould us into greater spiritual beings in Christ, then when they do wrong or say wrong (especially stuff that contradicts the Bible) we ignore it and tell ourselves "Nah, that's a man/woman of God...they're holy and righteous and therefore they are right and I am wrong", but sometimes they're just wrong. What I've come to also realize in the past few days while spending time assessing my situation and talking to God about it was that if they are made of flesh then they can operate in it. Far too often we label spiritual leaders as "they can do no wrong" but they very much can. It's good to ask questions and be concerned so in the event that they are contradicting God's word or operating under a different spirit, we won't be deceived and led astray because we failed to do due diligence and check back with God and His word. And it's all the more difficult as a new believer. It's so confusing. Imagine being told I was prideful because I didn't apologize for something I didn't do but yet when my spiritual leader does something wrong they just brush it off. They don't apologize. If they speak to me harshly and degrade me they never circle back and say "hey, my attitude was uncalled for and I'm sorry for the way I spoke to/treated you". That's what I expected from believers when I joined the church. How can y'all preach God's word and can't even humble yourselves to apologize when you're wrong? That seems prideful to me. I thought I was going crazy. I kept asking God if He was seeing and hearing the way they spoke to me. I didn't even know leaders could treat people this way. I thought some would be better and actually obey the word of God and all it's commands of showing love and not being proud, etc. Also, one of the most maddening things for me was that I had no one to talk to so I would just go to God in tears but I felt like He didn't say anything back. I couldn't speak to anyone in the congregation because they follow blindly and it would be awkward to say what I'd experienced. I also didn't want to come across as a gossip er or anything of the sort but I really wish I just had someone to tell all to. Because I've been hurting and it's gotten to the point where I'm depressed and don't even want to attend church events anymore. I will remember your principle in these times though, no matter what any flesh says (Pastor or otherwise), I will go to God and His word and if what man says/does contradicts the word of God...I'll reject and rebuke it too. Thank you, my brother. Blessings to you!

If these church leaders knew their Bible, it would say that every church Christian should fast at some point. It is necessary for the Christian life. But no, they wouldn't know that because most church leaders don't even read the Bible.

Hey Linda. I’m sorry you had to experience this. It sounds like it didn’t destroy you though. Knocked down but not defeated. God has a purpose for your life. And He will guide you into it. With the right people at the right church at the right time.

I am so sorry this happened to you. Very inappropriate and definitely non-Biblical. I pray you find a home in a healthy church where God can work through you and where you can expedite all the great things the body of Christ has to offer 🙏

What the heck, normally it's the opposite

The bible has the dressing code, which is modesty. It does not say we must go after the pastor's wife dressing or dressed up to kill, revealing a lot of flesh to attract attention like you are going to the beach.

They were jealous of your beauty & you probably look great for your age… take it as a compliment & not as an insult… EVEN WHEN IT HURTS… I’ve been there sis

Very well said. And true. Hence the personal responsibility we have to study the scriptures on our own. Preaching should be the dessert to a well-balanced, daily consumption of the Word. Not the main dish.

@@AaronJDaigleOooo! Love that!! 🙏✝

I think it’s more complicated to discern because there are also scriptures on submission and obedience. Most the time these ministries /leaders seem to be doing good and Godly things.

@@rachell4492 This is a really good point!

Hey Sharla. I am sorry to hear you are experiencing this right now. As soon as I read your message, this came to me… You have a choice. I know it doesn’t feel like a choice you want to make. And the “what’s next” part of choosing is concerning. But for what it’s worth, I truly felt to tell you this… You have a choice.

@@AaronJDaigle thank you so much for responding. I know God doesn't want me to feel bad leaving His house. You are right! I do have a choice. Church is not supposed to hurt.

Seek the Lord. There ARE real pastors out here who take God seriously at His Word. Be encouraged ❤

I am so sorry. It's supposed to be a safe space. It got so bad and I left and took a while to recover. Prayed and God helped me find better friends. Really creative ways they did church - coffee shop Bible studies, Christian Seders, prayer on the bus, the park, malls and stores. Doesn't have to be in a stain glass building with wooden benches. God bless and keep you.

That is the most out of context use of that scripture I’ve ever heard. Truly. Wow. Man I’m sorry you had to experience this. For real.

Thank you. And I am so sorry you experienced this. Not cool. I pray you find your way through and walk into everything God has for you.

It’s always turned against you 🤦‍♂️

Unfortunately. Yes.

Thank you Carole for your support and kind words. I pray God strengthen you and bless you after what you’ve gone through. My heart and prayers are with you.

I know what you mean. It's painful to lose it all after investing so much. But then in retrospect we see, like you said, that it was truly "a blessing in disguise." I"m also happy to hear you've found a new place to connect with other believers and fulfill God's purpose on your life. Keep the faith, and fight the good fight my friend.

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AMEN!

True. The Lord is my Shepherd not the pastor

BEWARE..Both Wolves & Shepherds love MUTTON...😢

Amen. People who are narcissistic, enablers, or the ignorant or deceived will always come against this

Wow. Yes. Very well said. Some people share a minute’s worth of content in an hour long message. You, my friend, have shared an hour’s worth of content in a minute long message!

Hey Hema! Thank you so much for sharing. Yes, these are some great examples of things used against people in the cult-like churches we are discussing. Such good insight!

It takes these types of experiences to teach us the hard lessons in life. And yes, learning to say “no” is one of those lessons.

I’m sorry to hear that you experienced this. It’s so hard to go through. And people who don’t experience it have no clue what it’s like. So we feel so isolated after. I encourage you to write the book. This is an idea (no insight from God just my personal opinion). You may want to wait for a season. Let God heal you. Then write it. (But write an outline of the events now so you have a record of it when you return to write the book). You want to write it from a place of experience, not a place a pain. So write it. But do it later. Again though, that’s my quick knee-jerk reaction. I don’t know your context and I don’t feel this from the Holy Spirit to share with you. It’s just my opinion. May God show you how and when. And may he bless others through your story.

Thank you Jocelyn. I pray in the meantime the videos have ministered to you in your situation.

@@AaronJDaigle They have and I bless God. Your perspective on being in leadership and being abused by leadership assisted me in concluding my research. Many outside of this role can name the same things but they don't understand the biblical decree of honoring your leadership (so any form of organized religion seems like a cult to them.) This, along with digging into my word & searching commentaries was what I needed. Thank you. P.S. I am a clinical therapist so the shame of justifying what was so clearly abuse will take time and humility to heal from.

I see what you mean. If you'd ask them, they'd respond truthfully that they do not believe that to be the case. But when you observe how they act, it's ask if they replace God in people's lives. So yes.

Or, letting your family win. Or your health win. That’s an option too 👍

I’m sorry to hear that you are going through this. I suspect when you are in the right church, you have a sense in your spirit that you know it’s right for you. In your case, you seem unsettled and for some obvious reasons. Those are just some thoughts that may help guide you in the right direction. And as a side note: it is not prideful to want a wife. A wife is a good thing. That’s what the Bible say about her 👍

Went through something similar

Always go back to your Bible and if it contradicts the advice you are given, just tell whoever spoke to you, that you will follow the word of God first before following advice from other people about spiritual matters. Wanting your wife should be a good thing. it's up to you, but if that was me I'd be changing churches. Totally up to you though.

I wouldn’t know how to respond to that without context. Do know that I hear what you’re saying and I care.

If that’s the case, he’s a warlock. Not a pastor.

So only the righteous can get saved?? 🤦‍♂️

@@seameology what she was referring to ,was their bank account

As to your first paragraph, witchcraft. The second paragraph, passive aggression. The third, overstepping the confines of pastoral authority. And the fourth, sounds like it. I’m sorry you had to go through this.

Not an easy season of life to be in. I pray God give you direction.

@@AaronJDaigle me too. Plus I'm new there and I just want to do the right thing. It does trigger my anxiety nowadays. I'm thinking maybe I should just take a month away and just personally sit with God.

There’s a lot of wisdom in what you just said. Church hurt is real. It is wrong. But God allows us to walk through some very real and very wrong circumstances to prune us into His image. Carry the cross 👍

Thank you!

Man you’ve developed quite a bit of understanding from your experiences. And I love the use of the word “tolerate.” Going back to my reply on your other comment (in that we’re dealing with witchcraft/jezebel), God told one of the 7 churches in revelation that He had this issue with them - that you tolerate that spirit Jezebel (in other words, they were letting something - through someone - manipulate and control them) Good insight my friend.

Thanks for your comment. Despite having been through a lot, it doesn't necessarily get any easier. I can still get caught. These spirits are also so slippery that sometimes you've been 'had' before you realise it. They seem to know how to isolate you and strike when you least expect it. Keep up the good fight and warning/educating people

Thank you Kelly. And it’s super nice to see you here. Hope you and your husband are doing well!

Thank you for sharing your story. And I’m sorry. If I may offer an idea, something we tell our clients in our mental health facility, it’s not “your” depression. It’s “the” depression. It’s hard to explain it here the way we do in session, but in a nutshell, you struggle with something that affects you. But it’s not who you are. This small change in wording makes a lot of difference in people who struggle with depression. So I’m just hoping to be a blessing to you in that.

This is not an easy situation to be in. I’m sorry you’re experiencing this and pray that God give you clarity as to how to move forward.

@@AaronJDaigle I have moved forward. I have found a new church that is much more scriptural and the pastor does not seem as controlling. God is good even in the difficult times.

Thank you. 🙏

Almost as if we left the same church huh. (I’m sorry you had to go through this)

Thank you for sharing your story. I gave my life to Jesus 40 years ago. I've known the Lord for 52 years, and I'm very sensitive to the Holy Spirit. I didn't experience much abuse, but I did see it.

Thank you! And yes, el abuso no discrimina 👍

Hey my friend. Thank you so much for sharing your story and being so vulnerable. I know it’s not easy to post this on a public comment so I can see that you are desperately reaching out. Let me preface my response by pointing out that you are dealing with two major issues, not one. The first is the situation in your church. The other, your marriage. I’m not just talking out my head when I tell you this, my wife and I own a marriage and family coaching company, see couples together, and she is a licensed marriage and family therapist. I highly encourage you and your husband to seek marriage coaching. And NOT from anyone inside your church. You said multiple things that are glaring red flags. I pray you take my words to heart and not overlook this suggestion. Now, on to your other issue. You need to get out. What you described it not healthy. And no you don’t give that money when you leave. I wouldn’t even give it while still there. You can’t steal from the church when what you’re attending is a cult, not a church. There are also many red flags in what you said about this “church.” Spirit souses, is just one example. That is not a real thing. It is a demonic conception that is used to entangle people in darkness, making you believe that you’re stuck. The mere fact that a “prophetess” is linking you to this is an indication that she may be a “prophetess” alright, just not one for the Holy God we serve. When the scripture says that Satan will appear as an Angel of light, that doesn’t mean he’ll show up in your bedroom in a white robe and 6 wings. It means he will work through people who claim (and actually believe) they are God’s chosen ministries, but aren’t. Once you get out, and I pray you do, it will be hard. You will question yourself. You will feel like you did something wrong. And you’ll be scared God will punish you. But He won’t. And then you’ll start to heal. And then you’ll look back on all this with increased clarity and see how crazy and ungodly it is. Please go to your husband in the softest spirit posible, pray beforehand, and ask him with everything inside of you to go get outside help from someone who can walk y’all through this. Because you need to leave. And it would be best if the two of you could come into agreement on this. I know. Easier said than done. But getting it done isn’t impossible. You will get through this and you will get through it with you marriage in tact. 🤍👍

@@AaronJDaigle Thank you so much!! I feel the right thing to do is leave because it’s so toxic. I prayed all night and God told me to say my goodbyes. I’m spoke with my husband and he said we should continue going but he had already seen all the red flags but mostly because Only the Pastor and his wife(the prophetess) are in a leadership role. There are no other leaders. I told him about meetings i’ve been called to and told to not tell him about which God strictly told me to share with him but he still thinks we should stay. Do i take my kids(two girls) and leave and allow him to keep going alone(i believe this is only because he still wants to see some business deals through).

If at all possible, yes take your kids out too. But do it in agreement with your husband, not in conflict. If your husband sees the problems in the spiritual side of things, why does he trust them with business deals? Shady here, shady there. If he hasn’t done so already and is willing, perhaps you two could watch through the videos on this church Hurt playlist. Use them to spark dialogue between the two of you, and come up with a game plan (hopefully an exit strategy) together. Ideally, we don’t want one spouse in a cult and the other out. That’s not a recipe for long term success. I will put your guys to prayer over the next few days.

@@AaronJDaigle Thank you so much🙏🏽. We’ve watched the videos. I’m hoping he says something soon but he recognises my feelings and is ok with me and the kids leaving. I will keep praying about the business dealings😔🙏🏽

Sounds good. Many blessings to you and your family. My prayers are with you. Keep the faith and may God lead you on.

Thank you!

While this was not easy, I’m sure you’re super proud of yourself for taking this stand. You have a backbone which is why you ended the abuse. I like to think of it this way… the devil has no right to prophesy to me. Sounds like you maintain the same philosophy.

@@AaronJDaigle Amén

I pray it does. And thank you for being a part of the community. 👍

That devil IS thee worst!!!

Man, sounds rough

I’m sure, then, you’ve experienced quite a bit of heartache on your journey. Pray God has led you forward. Through it and to what He has for you next.

@@AaronJDaigle Yes I had a lot of. heartache, but through Christ Jesus I got through it, but there are many who have not been able to get passed it. I am very happy to see . your video, so many people need to see this to help them get through it and move on.

You raise many good points. Especially the demand for accountability but the lack of it in their own lives. Personally I’ve gotten quite a bit from Christian books and do enjoy learning from others. However, I do read the Bible too so my case may be different than your point. Again man, good stuff and very insightful. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us!

Ok

Romans 3

Hey Jeremy. I do 1-on-1 coaching. There’s an email in the video description. Hit me up. Looking forward to walking this out together.

Man you’ve condensed so much truth in so few words. A very mature outlook on most of the situations indeed. I’d concur that being delivered from self-love and blinding pride this side of heaven is a goal worth striving towards while constantly understanding that we reach for the ideal, but we live in the real. Much love and respect Michael.

Good for you. You made a call and got to where you need to be 👍

You have a been through so much. I’m baffled at the lack of understanding regarding your need for space after your friend passed away. But then to follow that up with the type of threat he used against you is appalling. I know it feels like a waste. Why didn’t I leave sooner type of thing. But your wisdom and experience has increased because of what you went through. God knows how to work all things together for good….. And I’m truly happy that you’ve found a new church home. One that is a better fit for you. Keep the faith my friend. And stay in the good fight 👍

I am so sorry to hear this. Wow. Like, not cool. As of now, I haven’t done the book. I do have multiple videos on the Church Hurt playlist that are available now if you haven’t had a chance to check those out. Again, I’m sorry to hear that you had to experience this. To intentionally harass someone (and to do it to their children too), I can’t even 🤦‍♂️

I’m glad you’re out. And I hope you’ve gone get that counseling degree. There are addicts and hurting people out there who are depending on you to fulfill God’s purpose on your life.

Wanted to add, I’ve prayed for your brother during this season - that God will help him. And direct him. Next time you see him, with him my best!

I am truly sorry to hear that you’re having to go through this. The challenge you’re experiencing in your home as a result isn’t easy to navigate. It’s hard to offer advice off the cuff without full context. I do one-on-one coaching if you’re interested in working through this together. If so, use the email in the description to connect rather than a reply here on the comments. I will pray over you and your family whether I hear from you there or not. It’s a delicate situation and I trust God will guide you and your family through this.

Hey Mariza. I can’t imagine what you’re experiencing there. I am sorry you are having to go through this. I promise there are genuine churches with great pastors. It does sound like you’re not in one right now though. I pray you have the courage to leave. You can end it all, today. And then you’ll need the courage to trust again and connect to a healthy church. God will give you strength (and see Matthew 23:9-11 on the whole “dad” thing.)

Yes

What you have experienced is not just spiritual abuse, it is criminal. Particularly the first sentence you wrote. I’m really sorry you’ve had to go through these things. Given your childhood context on top of that, it’s not an easy experience to endure.

That is 💯 accurate 👍

Well suffice it to say, that should not have set well with you. (There are certain responsibilities a pastor fulfills in the body of Christ that others won’t fulfill. just like in a company, every person has their role. But that doesn’t mean “more spiritual.” It simply means different)

This is wrong on so many levels. I’m truly sorry you had to experience this. Moses spent 40 years in the desert, Jesus 40 nights. Just 2 of many examples of God ordained, temporary seasons of isolation. What’s worse, even if they were right (which they weren’t), you don’t handle it like that. Jesus said to confront them, not to gossip about them. At the end of the day though, I must say. I love your profile name here on the platform. They took a lot from you, but not your relationship with Christ.

@@AaronJDaigle yes absolutely. Thank you so much for you response and God bless u. I was so hurt that I didn’t sleep that night but now I know that the only thing that matter is Jesus Christ. I love your channel btw keep going my brother ☺️

@@AaronJDaigle and also they use the excuse that church is the body of Christ so I didn't have to abandon it because it's as if I had put Jesus on hold... totally nonsense

That is so true. I find most church people, particularly the ones who’ve never experienced real trauma, mean well. But have no idea. I can attest from personal experience that God Can and does heal people this way. But I can also say the healing cannot be completed without someone else helping you. Some will disagree. But that is straight out of the Bible. That said, I would encourage therapy or life coaching with someone you trust. My wife and I have seen many of our clients heal during this process in our mental health company. I know it works. I pray God lead you to the right person to get what you need. Thank you, Kerstin, for reaching out. 🙏

​@@AaronJDaigleThank you so much for your reply! Yes, you put it very accurate; they mean well, but have no idea. When you say that "God Can and does heal people this way", what way are you referring to? I have been seeking help both here and there from different counsellers, but it's hard to find a good match. Thank you so much for your prayer, it is a very accurate prayer for me right now! I trust that the Lord will lead me to the right person! 😊❤🎉

@@kerstinostgren4805 “this way” as in directly. One-on-one. Just you and Jesus. (But it’s better to have Jesus and someone else to help you through it) Email me from the description if you’re still looking for one-on-one. We have 4 people, me and 3 others, who work one-on-one with clients. The other 3 are women if you’re looking for a female. I’m certainly not trying to push this on you as you can see from the channel I don’t even really mention it in the videos. I’m just offering it to you since it sounds like something you’re looking for.

​@@AaronJDaigleThank you very much, but I was hoping to find someone in my own country. Ans also someone that I can meet in person.

@@kerstinostgren4805 I understand. In person is always best. Even on my end, as a coach, I can see how someone benefits more in person. Tell you what, I’ll start praying with you. That God open the door and connect you with the right person in your area who He has for you. That He would lead your step to the right place 🙏

That’s usually the options. Although in most cases, option 3 is the only one on the table.

For sure.

You’ve brought up some certain tactics used, mostly the ones from the pulpit. One would hope the pulpit, even more than the church itself, would be safe. In many places, it is. In some, not.

Done. I went back and put the timestamps for easy navigation 👍

Joseph, second in command to Pharaoh alone, was one of the richest men in history.

The rich don't go to heaven. Read the NT.

@SippinSalsa Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven. However, He did not say that it is impossible for a rich man to go to heaven. Rightly divide God's word

@@musicguy9101 You're correct. But, it's impossible for a camel to do that so it's pretty hard!

Yes, we are the church.

If they’d read the gospel themselves, they’d know that a woman’s role in society far surpasses ironing shirts.

In normal circumstances, I’d encourage you to meet with the pastor and tell them. One meeting. Then leave. But in extremely unhealthy cases, that may not be possible. At least without some grand fiasco ensuing. In that case, I would use an email. Send them a message stating your decision. Don’t respond to the games if they reply with questions to suck you in. Also, if you are responsible for certain departments/areas of ministry, make sure they have what they need to continue without you (passwords, item locations, etc), but only to a moderate degree. It’s not your job to fully fulfill and train your position out. It’s hard to say exactly without context but this is the gist of how I’d handle it. I truly hopes this helps.

I’m sorry man. Not cool

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I am sorry to hear that your church is going through this 😞

Whether you have an attitude or not, idk 🤷‍♂️ I wasn’t there. But we’re to align with God, not fall in like behind someone else.

While I have no context to know if you have that spirit or not, his age does not disqualify him from pointing it out in you if you do. Given his propensity for inebriation, however, I’d certain seek out a second opinion before assuming he’s right.

@@AaronJDaigle Thankyou. Appreciate your advice. The beers didn’t help my opinion of him… especially as he told me he needs to pray for me.. I try to walk in a humble way with God… so I didn’t leave… and I said to him… if he sees something in me I would bring it to the Lord in prayer.

Sometimes people hear what’s preached through the eyes of their own guilt

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Im not exactly sure of the question. And I’m not personally aquatinted with Benny Hinn. I’m sorry. But to curse someone who speaks against you is witchcraft.

@@AaronJDaigle That's what it is.

Man it sounds like you went through a lot with this. God’s Word actually reveals that these things will happen. In some ways, church hurt can offer more evidence that God’s Word is true. I pray you walk into even more of God’s perfect will for your life despite the circumstances you’ve had to endure.

@@AaronJDaigle Thanks I didn't end up losing my faith but I have met the wolves in sheepskin clothing.

Ikr

While the simple answer is to just leave, I understand that’s not the easy answer. It’s honestly one of the best questions to ask. And one I intend to put together as its own video and speak to here on the channel.

Yes, we are all God’s fallible church

That is very, very sad indeed. I am sorry to hear this.

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Hey Cherie. It sounds like you guys experienced a lot of heartache on your journey while traveling through the years to do God’s work. I pray you find your footing after what you’ve been through. And that the ugly in others not stifle the good in you and your husband.

Sometimes, that’s what the devil says to us through the mouths of the people he’s actually using.(And sometimes it is us. I wouldn’t know without context. So please, take my thought as a grain of salt)

Exploring options is always wise

Last week I asked our father for the wisdom he gave Peter. I attended two churches the one I'm committed to Since my wife was working during the time we go to church. Her grandma invited us so I went to two churches.

Hey Michelle! Thank you for sharing your ideas and contributing to the conversation. While you may be mixing two vastly distinct groups of people into one (those who love God, serving Him from a legitimate place of respect for what He teaches and those who profess Christianity with no actual life transformation to accompany their claims), I would not think that you are the problem. You’re simply stating a problem for what it is.

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I am so sorry to hear this. God is not the author of confusion. When you are in His will, you will have a peace about it. I have often found that when I am restless, questioning God's will in prayer, vacillating - that I am outside of the will of God. He will lead you by confirming in your spirit if you're in the right place. And He will lead you out by impressing on your spirit that you need to leave. Heather I know this may not be all you need (it's obviously hard to process this out typing) but I will pray for you today, that God give you clarity and help you find victory. And hope again.

You know, I didn’t hit any of this from a family dynamic. Focused on churches. But tomorrow I’m putting out a video of how control and manipulation play out in the home. As with the church, it’s sad that this happens. But it unfortunately does. I’m truly sorry to hear that you experienced these things with your own father in your own home.