The 60s Hurt America Says This Brilliant Conservative 

I wonder what this guy thinks of these last few years LOL

Hes right the conservatives really lost themselves and missed a great opportunity. This feels still so relevant today

The 60s was the beginning of the end.

I realized this back in the early eighties when I was 13 - 14 yrs old.

"unintentionally" we can see it was all intentional now

Wow! This sounds like it could be said today! I myself am a conservative of the mold he speaks of and find myself constantly pushed aside by a Republican party that worships the free market and middle east intervention

What we have today is a corporate culture, which is neither liberal or conservative. The speaker is being overly polite in saying that conservatives had placed too much attention on economic maters. That was the objective. Conservatism was cooped to accomplish that. And culture, values, and especially social structures were sacrificed to meet that end.

I think this is Dr. Fleming the Paleo-Conservative, editor of Chronicles magazine.

I can watch your clips all day everyday. It is so interesting hearing the world view of these people, many of whom are probably long deceased, explain how life was during some of the most confusing and revolutionary times in U.S. history. Thanks for sharing

60s: when we stopped building and started eating

This is funny. I mean he could be describing basic libertarian values that came out of that era and a lot of business values today that don't see much use for community or families themselves except for profit engines. As for the black urban communities and white rural community what destroyed them was a loss of jobs, income and wage growth due to free-trade and deregulation. Beyond that it has been the drugs both legal and illegal that have destroyed both communities. There was a big effort to force money out of communities into fewer and fewer hands of business business and the global economic projects of the the 1 percent. The one percent came out of the values he describes because that was their generation whether we talk about the Koch brothers or Bill Gates.

The family unit was sacrificed on the altar of 'progress'

The best thing he gets at is that the goal posts of "liberal" and "conservative" are always moving....this, of course, sows discord, mistrust, confusion, angst, intergenerational misinformation, and so on.

This is giving me chills listening to how accurate his assessment was in 1989. Knowing it was likely social engineering...time to take this ship's helm back.

Brilliant is correct...man I love hearing about history from ppl who lived it! David Hoffman's channel is a treasure!!! Thank you David for your life's work 👍❤️✌️

Whatever you do, don't take this guy's stapler.

when you put personal agendas and feelings ahead of the greater good for all, the society will eventually crumble and cease to exist.

If anyone wants to know the real reason to how and why we got here in the first place, you have to look into the origins. The roots of all of the 1960s to the present day date back to a century before the 1960s transpired. The Progressive Generation (Born from 1845-1865) and the Missionary Generation (). Here in the U.S, the Progressive Generation was too young to fight in the Civil War when it happened, thus traumatized by it beyond repair. Thus they began to question everything pretty much and saw the values of that time (excluding slavery) to have been the direct cause of it. So Progressive thought leaders such as Croly, Dewey, Wilson, etc. went over to Prussia and got influenced by the philosophical schools of thought. Same with the French schools of thought. Why does this matter? Because the teachings of Russeau (French), Hagel (Prussia) and Marx (Prussia) are what caused 7 generations (excluding the Lost and Greatest) to become more unmoored from the Judeau-Christian values Western Civilization was founded on. So these Progressive ideologues were inspired by the teachings of these French and Prussian philosophers that championed Moral Relativism, Existentialism, Egalitarianism, etc. This is how the Progressive Generation got their name, they wanted to make sure that such a devastating war like what happened in the 1860s would never occur again. Same goes for the Germans and what they went through during the reunification wars btw (though the irony of all this would occur in the 20th century). And so this all leads to the Progressive Generation to COMPLETELY reject the Victorian values of their parents along with all who came before them. Like how Gen Z is inspired by Millennials today, the Missionary Generation was inspired by the Progressive generation and decided to do the same when it came to rejecting Victorian values. This caused an existential crisis among these two generations and a major rise in moral relativism and nihilism, especially in countries such as Russia and with immigration from there, nihilism was ramped up in America big time. Fast forward to the early 1910s and you can already see so much of what made America (and most of the Western World in the 19th century) so prosperous begin to erode more and more. A Global conflict of the likes which had never been seen since the Napoleonic Wars broke out and along with it's aftermath claimed the lives of over 20 million people and caused a whole generation to be lost, hence the Lost Generation. After that, you had the Roaring 20s because the economy was booming, the individual was being more celebrated, however combined with the moral relativism that had been a trait of the Missionary Generation, this lead to more promiscuity, it lead to a massive sexual revolution and more to break out in the 1920s. This was all brought on by a combination of Moral Relativism, Narcissism, Nihilism, etc. known as CULTURAL MARXISM! The sheer amount of carelessness of the Missionary Generation caused the Great Depression and it had damned their children into the hardest times that hadn't been witnessed since the time of the Civil War. The hard times that the Progressive Generation did not want to ever occur again ironically happened again and worse so because of their own values and ideals. The Missionary Generation was so shocked by the Great Depression occurring to the point where they themselves were at a loss of what to do and felt guilty that their own indulgence and selfishness devastated their children's futures. Thus World War II had occurred and with hard fought battles, the Greatest Generation had to clean up the mess the previous generations had created. They had sought stability and a return to the values and teachings of their ancestors that both the Progressive and Missionary Generations rejected. However, they didn't count on the schools now fully functioning under the Prussian model of education (i.e. indoctrination) that the Progressive Generation sought to accomplish and succeeded in achieving. On top of this, the book written by Dr. Benjamin Spock "The Common Sense of Baby and Childcare" had sold big time to the Greatest Generation, but little did they realize the consequences of catering to their children without the moral discipline they got from their parents. They didn't discipline the Boomers because the Greatest Generation resented the Missionaries and rightfully so blaming them for the devastation that happened earlier in the 20th century. But this caused all of what the Greatest Generation had restored, the Judeau-Christian values, peace, stability and civil society their ancestors from 100 years prior to the 1950s to be short lived when the 1960s Counterculture had rolled around. Thus the chaos of that decade and the following one had been a direct result of lack of moral discipline of the Boomers from their parents, the Greatest Generation. To this day, we still haven't fully recovered from the 1960s-70s and so far it's only getting worse. However, according to Strauss-Howe Theory on Generations there is a High (1950s), Awakening (1960s-70s), Unraveling (1990s-Present) and a Crisis. If correct, then the next decade or the 2030s will be a time of crisis just like 100 years before. Then stability will occur again. Either that or we will go the way of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem before us.

Let's be honest, children grow up according to parents principles, The Greatest Generation wasn't so great at parenting in order to turn out these radical punks of the 60s.

I suspect that even people who were born after the '60s wish that it had never happened. In "Haywire", Brooke Haywood talked about the activism that existed at Berkeley around the early sixties. LBJ's presidency was one of the worst of the 20th century. Between Vietnam and his "Great Society", he accelerated the angst and uncertainty people were experiencing. The so-called "Domino Theory" proved to be false.

Thomas Fleming is the real deal, he was the editor of Chronicles Magazine for many years. A truly insightful man. His book The Morality of Everyday Life is a must read.

Yes I agree the 60's was the start of an attack on family, faith, morality, etc., etc. Though some may argue it already began in the 1950s.

I could hang out with this dude.

I appreciate the way you let your subjects roam through their memories in a naturally thorough way. Understanding isn't possible without context, and your style allows me to empathize with your subjects. I've watched "Storyteller Viet Vet" probably a half dozen times, and I still get a lumpy throat and moist eyes every time I watch it.

Looking at the title, all I could think was "No shit." After I listened to it, I feel the same.

I do believe he is brilliant in the sense that you really get an historic perspective ánd how American politics changed. In Europe and Australia Liberals are exactly as how he described them in the US before the 40's/50's: for free market and individual freedom and with a speck of patriotism. The name in Europe is therefore less confusing. But then again so is corporate interets and conservatism, what do they want to conserve? Their bank account? And then the name Neoconservatives, new conservatives? No wonder that they actually have described themself as revolutionaries (if I'm not mistaken), with their regime change, they are the opposite of conservatives.

Very interesting in the context of Brexit. You can divide between Leave and Remain in exactly the same way. People in the large city bubbles just don't get it!

Only david hoffman actually went to the trouble of uploading history and perspectives of people who may not be with us anymore from this era. What I mean by that is that we are taught only one side of that history in brief: civil rights, vietnam, free love and woodstock. Not what led to these moments or its consequences and opinions from the people who lived through it.

Can't even imagine an academic with these views being allowed anymore. what a disaster.

This is brilliant. Shows now how polarised both sides of the spectrum have become and how communication has completely broken down. Pure conservatism leads to no progress and pure liberalism leads to chaos and no structure. A balance is needed and constant communication between the two sides.

GREAT a few and sad for the many. The inmates now run the universities .

He mentions "No fault divorce in the 60s and 70s" at 0.25. It seems like there would have been legal support from people born before 1946 for that to happen. Only a few days ago, a woman told me she graduated high school in 1954, and wanted to get a job at the local mill. Being a woman, it was more difficult to get a job there. I understand they had a few women working in clerical positions then. They had more women working there during the time of World War II, but once the war was over it went back to men. In the 1970s, more women were hired for general positions. In the early 1980s, most people lost their jobs in the local mill complex.

I care as well, David. thank you for this.

The part about men continuing after divorce with all the income didnt age well, but its fascinating to hear his take on things from his position in time.

This guy called the 20-teens in 1989... frikkin genius

Thanks David for sharing all these fascinating tidbits!

"what we did in the 60s and 70 was make war on the little communities...the name of this game was 'personal liberation'"

Thanks David!

What the 60s hurt America. Really? This is the kind of guy who thinks Blacks were better off in their segregated 50s ghettos and not asking for real opportunities. You know, keep 'em in their place. Same with women. Let them keep house and shut up. That will make this "Brilliant Conservative" happy. Progress hurts, Mr. Brilliant--actually run-of-the-mill--Conservative.

Watching this in 2024 . You couldn’t be more right . I’m the state of California children’ are being taking by there homes and family by the state and put into youth homes because children are confused if they are boys or girls and when family tries to help we get our kids taken away , racism is worst then the 80-early 000 . More and more parents pulling kids out of school and homeschooling because the system is so broken

the 60s and 70s hurt america the 2010's killed it

This is bang on.

this channel is great

Then-and-Now: I'm glad to see that America's Conservatives are not the Silent-Majority, this time around! I'm also quite a bit disappointed (and I happen to be a moderate-conservative, folks!) that the Left is much-less of the Hippie, and far-more towards the old *'Weather Underground'* . You know it's just not going to end well for them!

David your work is truly amazing brother!

WOW! This guy is DEAD ON!! BRAVO!! 👏

What he said about Kerouac is true. I once heard an interview wherr Kerouac stated he had voted Republican since before he was born

I love all these interviews. More interesting and thought out than most of the so-called “pundits” we see in the mainstream

You're seeing things really turn around with my "generation" (young millennials and early 2000 men) showing more conservative and family oriented anti big government. The beauty of America is the freedom good will always prevail in a free society.

My generation lives in the wreckage of the 60’s generation.

Brilliant! I would love to hear more conservative voices

The specific things discussed here and elsewhere are true, but ultimately beside the point. The radicals of every stripe have always admited that the process is to first destroy the existing structure. The specific things that they have done, by themselves are not important to discuss. We already know all that. The issue now is to identify specificly who is responsible for all this. There is an identifiable leadership.

If civilization and progress were easy and quick, we wouldn't have had two world wars 13k years after Göbeklitepe. I don't think the 60s revolts were as wonderful as some people want to believe, but the ideologies have had their usefulness.

Could you post the full interview?

This guy would lose his tenure today.

I don't remember local governments being torn apart.

There's no question the 60s fatally wounded America, from "civil rights" to the Hart-Celler act. It's why we're going to see a Yugoslavia-esque breakup in our lifetime.

"The Pill" was approved by the FDA in 1960. I think that kicked off the whole 60s thing.

he has Angelina Jolie's bottom lip

Betcha many people would prefer the crazy 60's to today!

I have the next three days off from work and here I am looking at old style conservatives on RU-vid, the life of a rockstar.....

"Socialists or worse". And he conveniently forgets Viet Nam and Goldwater. Baudelaire was a conservative? That would explain the gun running and rumors of slaving.

There was also a Camelot calibre dream stillborn and lost which I feel the song ‘Expecting to Fly’ eloquently expresses.

Saying no fault divorce hurts women is hilarious.

Were conservative"s always this deluded?

Democracy and diversity combined together has turned our political elections into what would resemble a mother bird holding a worm over the heads of a bunch of little baby birds trying to reach and grab the worm. The biggest problem with this is that we are hit with salt in the scars of our history and this idea is constantly reinforced from all directions, of us each being a group by color or heritage, that has no choice but to fend for themselves among the other groups, because often their politicians will tell them they will do everything to assist their heritage group itself, or everything to assist other groups instead. We are pitted against each other because of cold hard political strategy and focus research. Because the data shows that the best ways to win elections are to cater your campaign to the largest voting blocs or combinations of them that don't contradict each other enough to convolute the message. The sad part is that many authoritarian non-democratic leaders of the past, including Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, all predicted exactly the way America was going to turn out. We have evidence of countries like Russia and China impersonating racial interest groups like BLM and using fake accounts and bots to schedule opposing rallies across the street at the same time. Others outside of our country know our biggest weakness and they use it to their advantage all the time. There is no sign of this going away, because each and every year there's some kind of election somewhere, or there's politicking and drama/nonsense to keep the politicians in your ears eyes and mind like they would market Coca-cola to you. This is our fate, and in order to address it, we would have to face some hard questions about Democracy as a system itself, something that most of the Western world has built up a knee-jerk and outright, indignant rejection to. I'm not sure I have an answer or even an idea for a solution to this, but the future is very bleak. This problem is not going away by any means, and seems to only get worse and slowly escalate over the years.

The idea that the ‘60s and by extension liberalism is at fault for this country’s social pathologies was a popular notion among conservatives during the 1980s but since then has been refuted time and again by the evidence and experience. Sociologist William Julius Wilson said it best: economic decline precedes cultural decline. As more and more of the national income has gone to the 1 percent, starting in the Reagan years, we’ve seen the breakdown of the family not only in Black communities but in white ones, the loss of community and the rise in drug use as the American Dream-a middle class life with a secure retirement-becomes more elusive. Whites love to talk about Black family breakdown but the recent opioid crisis has destroyed the white working class and the reason is despair over an economic system that favors the educated and the rich.

This is all about labels. Liberal, conservative, who cares? It's all about policies, not labels.

Fascinating interviews. Many ideas and opinions filtered through the prism of their experiences and ideologies at that time. I am curious if any of these commentators have modified their views in 30 years.

the best period of american middle class expansion is also its most complex and confusing period...i think the WW2,which created the US behemoth with 50 percent of world GDP and which was the only standing super power post it,is the reason for this extra-ordinary success of the 1950s in terms of wealth creation and a generation of baby boomers being born in an era of unprecedented wealth -creation in US' history..is what makes them really special.Observations like these are just pure gold!!

this guy gets it...

There is no hangover without a great party.

The one benefit I have for the 60's was Civil Rights Act for races to start getting the rights they have deserved after under 200 years as a nation. But a side that, our nation has a point of no return for being what it once was. 50 stars of shame...

Many young people of that time enjoyed listening to folk music, but they couldn't dance to it and it fell out of favor. The Beat Generation didn't dance either and it also faded. The British music Invasion led by the Beatles brought a resurgence of dance among young adults.

True. Most don't see it as they believe the illusion of freedom.

Thank you for offering his perspective, even if parts of it can be difficult to sympathize with like a white guy saying the '60s made blacks worse off. I wonder what he thinks of the GOP now. What was he a professor of?

Great interview, the man in this video truly gets it.

If the opportunity no longer exists, create a new opportunity.

as soon as the qualifier after the " i am " is spoken , you have set the stage for endless division .

Yeah, Conservatives missed it, but it didn't go away. Today it's called Libertarianism.

This guy nailed it.

Except that stability and conformity a.k.a. the 50's was going to inevitably be overturned. All cultural movements are reactions to previous generation's standards. The 50's was an attempt for stability from the chaos of ww2. The 60's was a reaction to the rigid 50's. Change is the only thing that can be counted on. To hold on too tight is to destroy it. This guy may be smart but he doesn't strike me as brilliant or wise and he couches everything ahistorically.

amazing content

This seems so wrong headed...it focuses on social issues and discounts and completely disregards the economics of the 80s. The neoliberal 'free market' economics were what helped destroy so much

And if you think the 60's were bad!!! The 2020's will end conservativism for good.

Not hurt, destroyed.

Brilliant seems like a strong word, but articulate and thoughtful, certainly!

"Tune in, turn on & drop out". Thank you baby boomer burn outs.

Clicked because the title sounded sarcastic. The brilliant conservative is cross-eyed, btw

I have a saying: we won the Cold War, but we gave up our Soul in the process.

Guy speaks the truth. Wonder where he is now and what do you think he would say today in 2019. This was 1989. 30 years have past. Much more different now.

Truly a genius individual. We say hindsight is 20/20 vision but this man could see it a lot sooner than the rest of us. We need more people like him

I've got no clue what this guy's definition of conservative was if he says it was dead in the 60s. If it werent free market economists, it was the last stand of Dixiecrats and other pro-segregation conservatives like Barry Goldwater. This dude is a solid centrist.

i want to hear more from this dude. where can i find more?

Yes, all of these comments were very insightful and I am old enough to confirm their veracity. Lyndon Johnson was a disillusioned politician who tried to lead from the presidency, but in retrospect we find little to show for his strident policies that zapped States rights. We needed what he was forced to bring, but we received it without the appropriate struggles at the local level. Most of all, we forgot God in most all our endeavors and today we are paying the price.

For society to function and a country to run properly, you need both a balance of liberalism and conservatism. The checks and balances hold it together. Not one extreme or the other.

Is there more to this interview? I'd be interested in obtaining to whole thing if so.

The sixties hurt everyone. Everyone in America, both on the right and left, and pretty much around the world.

So so true.

Yuri Bezmenov explained why this happened