The 7 Most Hated Commanders (And Their Decks) 

This video is worth it for the moment that Beezy realizes Urza is a narcissistic jerk who's responsible for like 80% of the most horrible things in MTG lore

Not sure if Shuffle Scuffle is still a thing, but I’d like to see a “Hateful Commanders Only” edition

Thank you Mia for mentioning that Telepathy says opponents play with their hands revealed. Beezy has said multiple times in the past how the card is a slog because everyone has perfect information, which made me avoid the card. That is, until I read it again more carefully, and saw that only I get perfect information, and everyone else is guessing my hand.

Me casually having two of these decks on my radar of potential builds

I was once playing against tergrid, and I was mana screwed, then smokestack came into play... second time around and I was making a deal to be killed

I have a friend who had a Narset deck and literally the examples you guys were talking about he used (Extra turn cards, Ugin the Spirit Dragon, Eldrazi Titans, etc) and eventually he changed it to a much nicer version cause we had to basically make it archenemy against him each time cause it felt basically unstoppable back in the day.

I don't think Sen Triplets is a kill-on-sight commander, at least from my experience. Sen Triplets is a kill-its-owner-on-sight commander. The one time I borrowed a Sen Triplets deck just to try it out, I was archenemy from turn ONE! Never played with or against it ever again.

The most absurd 1st turn I ever saw was from a Tergrid player. They went 1st. Swamp, dark ritual, jeweled lotus. Cast Tergrid, use the last black to thoughtseize the person to my left, pull a jin-gitaxias, Core Augur. Yeah, that's pretty much game. Nobody had a 1 mana response first time around the table.

Actually use blinkmoth infusion over Draco in Yuriko since it can be grabbed by Arcane Tutor and stacked with Mystic Sanctuary, and refer to it as Brickmoth because yeah, its used just as a brick.

Thanks for all the deck ideas

Pretty subjective, even going by Salt ranking. 😊”Name a big creature!” I was praying she’d say, Grave Titan! 😂

Tergrid was actually one of the first commanders I ever built oddly enough (mostly because I just had a bunch of bulk discard and sacrifice cards so I could make it for cheap) but some of my favourites in that deck are oppression and painful quandary just as passive advantage, as well as bottomless pit, make an example, torment of hail fire, archfiend of depravity, desolation, braids arisen nightmare, living death, tainted æther, pox, and chains of Mephistopheles. (Geier reach sanitarium and pelakka predation/caverns are great utility lands/MDFC’s :))

I own a tergrid deck that i play quite often, don't actually play the majority of the cards mentioned. I prefer an enchantment stax-y approach to give the table choices, like painful quandry and oppression. I do only play it into the high power pods to be fair.

Mia is right. Best drink, best Skittle, best Starburst...it's always the red one.

There’s only so much fun to be had and I’m gonna have all of it. ~Grand Arbiter Decks

Excuse me does anyone know if there's a card that gives regenerate to all creatures? Thank you for your response.

The Eminence mechanic should have been one of the top 7. Maybe just staple it along with Commander Ninjitsu.

I playmy sliver deck once a week and the pure hate u get when u drop the first sliver or any of them really surprises me with all the removal available 😂

I have seen Tergrid, a new player built around it, and it just never took off. But he was also learning and got a whole card list of suggestions for it.

Where’d you get art in the background?

Thanks for all the new deck ideas

I think that even Kinnan can be included in the list. It’s cost of mana is almost zero and it can create a dangerous board state In few turns, if it doesn’t combo before of course

My first MH2 collector booster had a retro frame foil Prismatic Vista, a retro frame foil Scalding Tarn, and a retro frame foil etched Urza... crazy pack. I then drew him 2 more times. I had to build him, they made me a villain lol

Tergrid was the first card I thought of when I saw the title.

I built 4/7 and was considering building another 2 xD Although I play them with stupid twists... or I dismantled them: -Sen Triplets with no internal wincon -Urza with no stax and most cards are altered to make an Ironman deck -Yuriko has no twist, but I barely play it -Tergrid has been dismantled

Urza can rank in most hated and most loved commanders imo.

would aetherflux reservior be good in etali primal conqueror decks?

Hot take but blue artificial flavor is really just more red. Somebody chose to make raspberry flavor blue I stead of red bc they didn't want to compete with cherry, watermelon, and strawberry as "red flavors"

Are you telling me that my friends don't like playing against my ninjas when I swing in with 6 unblockable creatures that are all ninjas and reveal 6 split cards with cmc 5-10 and they all die that turn?

OMG i would LOVEEEE too see 4 of those decks FIGHT EACH OTHER !!!! and see who wins. haha. MAKE THAT !

So, T1 Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt -> Tergrid. Swamp, Dark Ritual, Lotus Petal, Sol Ring -> Awaken the Erstwhile. 7 cards and everyone quits. Sweet.

A regular evening in my playgroup. Yuriko vs Tergrid vs Augustin IV vs Krarkashima. The Stax is strong in our group :D

You should try make a video about most unique commander and its deck or most underrated gameplay deck with its possible commander.

If You know the deck and can play it proper, the "coin" flip in cEDH is really not that a big of problem. You can play it in tornaments, and it wins some times - becose its really good deck. You just need to "short" the coin flips (for example, if you need roll 3 of them, and "re-roll" the failed - then roll 3 dice at once, and re loll all that failed - you can do it in "seconds" ).

Out of those commanders, I have 2 (Krarkashima, and Tergrid, though tergrid has yet to see play) put together, and at some point I wanted to make decks for Narset and for Augustus, although that's kind of folded into wanting to make a deck for Hinata, and Urza's come to mind since his price dropped down so much. And I will bring Krarkashima out when I'm feeling salty or feeling the need to be able to counter stuff fast and hard early in the game, it just gets tedious once I've got more than four krark triggers per spell cast. I've got 9+ counter spells in that deck, an untold number of cantrips, several spells and creatures that copy creatures on the field, and several sources of netting mana off of casts. I consider it the very essence of Izzet. It'll either blow up over everything or go out with a fizzle, and I'll be laughing like a madman the whole time.

There's a trend that these most hated commanders take away agency from others: either they're stealing your things, taking up everyone's time with extra turns/combats, or just preventing you from playing. Gross.

Is it true the creator of EDH passed away recently?

I got Tergrid in my Tourach Dread Cantor Commander deck that forces discarding. I'll consider some of these cards. Edit: Thank you Beezy for understanding how to make these decks really scary. Trying to harness my evil.

Besides ignoring commander tax i think the thing that hurts Yuriko players is that they build the deck so gimmicky that it’s boring to play against. For example putting a bunch of cards in the deck SOLELY for the purpose of burning the table. Feels like they basically never actually cast interesting spells which is a waste of one of most interesting value engines in commander. When i built my Yuriko deck I specifically tried to build it in a way where i actually do things with the deck. All of the cards are actually playable and it’s helped a lot. I also pick and choose my spots to strike to i don’t get immediately hated off the board

The nastiest thing i've done with Tergrid doesn't involve her as a commander, but in the maindeck of a Jund Discard deck. Tergrid on the field with a Robber Fly, equipped with a Blade of the Oni and Blade of Selves. Thrantis was the Commander, so everything had to attack every turn, and it was a goad deck, so those attacks were never coming my way. Like every deck i love, It's stupid, it's unreliable, but it's funny as hell when it goes off.

at first everyone looked at my Narset Auras deck like it was a balanced Narset. Like it was Narset but fun. Then I put Ethereal Armor, Eldrazi Conscription, All That Glitters and Arcane Flight on Narset off a lucky topdeck. Nobody thought Narset Auras was fun any more.

Hello, I dont know if anyone mentioned this or I am wrong, Tergrid will not get you Blithsteel???

Sen Triplets was my first deck and still my favorite, coincidentally it has Grand Arbiter Augustin and a bunch of other stax pieces as well, since if my opponents can’t play their spells, I can steal their stuff easily.

I run a Tergrid deck for tournaments. Fuck the competition. It's great getting people to scoop. 😊

Unfortunately I don't get to play any EDH atm, but here are some of my most hated Commanders from Arena's Historic Brawl Format: Jetmir, Tiamat, Atraxa(4C), Thrun and Rusko Clockmaker

Have a friend in my playgroup who had a tergrid deck but turned it into a tinybones deck. I believe she is still in the 99 though

Best answer I ever had to Tergrid, Kresh The Blood-Braided in a turbo sacrifice elemental deck. Poor Tergrid couldn't keep up with Kresh; I play ball lightning, I attack with ball lightening, just before the beginning of my endstep I sacrifice ball lightning to some sac effect, you get ball lightning, at the beginning of my end step you sacrrfice ball lightning. Kresh collects many +1/+1 counters.

Even if tergrid is not out it is important to still make them discard. Pro move

Almost 2024 and still no time stamps

the phrase "sinergy with winter orb" disturbs me so deeply

Looks like awsome recomendations to me :D

I plan to make GAAIV and a Narset but in a completely different fashion than their villianous counterparts.

I have a Tergrid deck that I only play against really spikey pods or if I'm feeling particularly salty. There are no expectations of winning since the deck draws so much hate. The whole point is to make everyone else play sub optimally just to deal with me, then I get to watch them slug it out with way less interaction in their hand/deck to deal with each other.

Sen triplets is banned in my house. I’m not going to not play when I’m playing

I have a Grand Arbiter deck. It really slowed down the game and I stopped 2 powerful decks. After 2 hours, the game ended in a draw. Thank you for the video Mia and Beezy.

I had to tear apart my Narset Spellslinger deck because it can't get a win unless people don't focus on it and I don't hit a Jin-Gitaxias off of Narset's attack trigger

I’ve seen 4/5 of these in a cEDH game at my local game store (all but Tergrid). And I agree, I hate those commanders. Coming in with my casual EDH deck people were building huge boards and winning by turn 2, while I just had 2 lands

The problem with Krarkashima is that usually people doesn't know how to play it or against it. I want to elaborate more because I know someone is going to come and say "that argument is not valid" or "are you going to say to us to play more target removal?" And yes, I'm going to say that but it's not the main point. The problem with Krarkashima is that the person who plays it really needs to know how to play it and when to go wild. First of all, is not a casual deck, it's a high power edh pair of commanders that want to combo, storming all the games they are in. So, the person who plays the deck needs to build it in a way thay they know they are going to win, not to speculate to win. If you sit on a table and someone plays krarkashima always ask them how do they win. If they tell you that "is luck based" or "when the decks wants" that is bad deck building. Help them if you can to make their deck better and consistent. And finally: know when to concede to a Krarkashima deck. If the deck is going wild and cast 2/3 Jeska's Will in a row, you are dead for sure. Concede and go to other game. Stop complainint about that. Kill their commanders, stop the storm mechanic and the deck is dead. Att: A Krarkashima player

This made me WANT to build a tergrid deck.

its hilarious to me that i have a friend who wants to build every single one of these but tergrid.

You can't get another combat if you cast "Seize the da" with Narset. The rulings says you have to be in your mainphase and not during combat. Goes for a lot of the red "untap, take extra combat" sorceries. They have to be cast post-combat per the ruling.

I live to be arch enemy but agree slightly so i play yuriko with zero tutors and tergrid with zero land destruction

Honest question. Other than the fact that it only targets yourself why is Narset so much more hated than Jeleva? Jeleva let's me win with your cards and mine...is it the color combo? The hexproof?

I just want everybody to know, you shouldnt forget the lantern, took it a black creature hate deck with the lantern to plat on arena

Tergrid instilling fright to players is ... just flavourful

i wanna build a krark-sakashima deck now.

Would Blightsteel Collossus work with Tergrid? It never goes to the graveyard. And Tergrid says you put if FROM the graveyard into play.

Narset is top of my list, that hexproof just puts her in a category all by herself. Anything else i can just hold removal for.

I have a tergrid deck and a friend randomly picked cards from my deck to be in my hand... tergird was out by turn 2 and dark deal on 3 everyone called it after that lol

This video was sick!

I'm both happy and sad Skuttles didn't make this list, as Legendary evasive Infect can be fearful. I suppose you do still have to k ock out each opponent, bur I remember when it was feared.

As a krark player a good krark player can play faster than most other decks at the table i have an app that is designed to run the deck and flip my coins and run the board state if the board state gets crazy i played it tonight at fnm and while yes some people get salty because what the deck can do i won 2 games by turn 4 and 5 of 1v1. Out of 8 ongoing games on a hr time limit one of my games was less than 5 min 2nd was less than 10 far faster than others finished. last 2 where much longer but because we both were playing control heavy. The super friends player i played last hit time limit every game including mine. I can see the deck being disliked because yes playing a spell again and again can be pretty ridiculous. But i dont think its hated because we are all slow. But you must remember our power comes with the major draw back that we can completely flop a spell and spend mana on literal nothing. We take a gamble every card we play. Until we build an engine we are pretty harmless so maybe just dont let us build a giant engine 😂

What happened to Joe Cherries?

Also, I prefer Capsize and Consign to Dream then Submerge. Returning permanents is the better play.

Bring your absolute best against me. I love it.

You have to add Braids, Cabal Minion to this list as an honorable mention. The only reason it isn't on this list is because it is so toxic that it is banned. Also, I find it amazing that Zozu or Hokari aren't on this list. Land destruction and Winter Orb on a stick are big red flags.

One of my strongest decks is a Tergrid deck. I have no shame. Although to be fair. I only play her when the table I'm playing at can 100% handle it and everyone is ok with me running it

My friend built himself a Tergrid-Deck. I played against it once. Once was one time too much. Never again! 😅 I do have a copy of her in my Syr Konrad deck, and when i do draw her i'm like hesitant to play her due to that prior experience. She nasty.

8:00 each player sacrifices.

No Chulane? That card has caused me more headaches than any other card.

Narset voltron is pretty cool. Voltron just makes people salty anyway.

retitle: Seven New Decks For You!*

Damn not even a mention of kaalia the vast

Krark Sakashima is a cEDH duo. Why is it mentioned here?

Sen triplets was my first commander deck. Thanks to the professor thinking it was gonna be more political…it was awful to play against. This was when Iona shield of the emiria was still legal. Made the deck again years later brought it to an LGS and made 2 other players legit cry…I took a break but still keep the deck it’s my baby.

I'm surprised they didn't mention the pili-pala/grand architect infinite mana combo when talking about the Urza deck.

Tergrid was banned in my shop as commander.

Of all the decks you could play against control decks are probably the least fun, at least some of the ones listed here. Because you aren't really given a chance to respond to their strategy in an interesting way, their strategy is to just not let you play at all.

Brain Freeze is the only win con. Tasha's Hideous Laughter, imo is better. Reason being is that it exiles instead of mills cards from the top of the library. If you drop three or four copies of Tasha's. You've pretty much locked the game down.

I find it funny that people are okay with me playing Nath, but not Tergrid.

The most hated Moxfield ad guess is, of course, 16:44. Day 40

Where did the other dude go?

Tergrid is a bonkers commander. I can't bring myself to build her but love to run her in the 99 of my Meren deck.

I feel like they’re are absolutely no ways to build urza none cedh. I love the card but play casual any suggestions

I'm doing my best to make Merieke get to this list.

thoughts on tergrid for 2024?

I built Tergrid with about 20 group draw cards. Everyone likes drawing cards here right?

Orvar, Omnath(creation), Tergrid is bad but in my pod she's okay. Meren is painful two cards sporefrog, butcher of malakir. Ive heard Jodah is pretty awful too

Is joe cherry gone?

*sees Tergrid* Yeah, this is definitely right. *Doesn't see Anvil of Bogardan with Tergrid* Wait, what? But how though