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The 8 Lowest Kill-To-Loss Ratios of WWII Fighters in Air-to-Air Combat 

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During World War II, certain fighter aircraft faced daunting odds with notably low kill-to-loss ratios, underscoring their struggle against more advanced adversaries. This might be due to outdated designs, inferior performance capabilities, and occasionally, the skill levels of their pilots. The kill-to-loss ratios presented here are approximations, as exact figures are challenging to determine due to varying historical records and contexts. If you are aware of any aircraft not included in this list or have additional information to share, we encourage you to comment below to enrich our understanding of this crucial aspect of aviation history.
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@patwilson2546
@patwilson2546 3 месяца назад
IMHO you should stick to types that were used in some numbers. He-162 was not really deployed in any numbers. Not many victories and not many lost. Too small a sample size. Others have already pointed out that the primary role of the DO17 was light bomber. You would not expect it to have much of a kill ratio. Fairey Battle was also not a fighter.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
It's getting pathic how little work these types of channels put into their efforts but still have decent sub and view numbers. Can I recommend a newish channel with the content creature not only make an effort but is more than willing to accept critism and use it to improve his work? www.youtube.com/@Aircraft_Files/videos Check out his video on the Bristol Beaufighter and look over the comments, then check out his video on the Bristol Blenhiem. He took the critism from viewer and applied it to his last video, massive improvement. He's a newish channel and deserves more sub then he has.
@tidepoolclipper8657
@tidepoolclipper8657 3 месяца назад
Dornier Do-17 is disqualified from this. LaGG-3 would've made more sense in a video about fighters.
@manricobianchini5276
@manricobianchini5276 3 месяца назад
The DO-17 was not a fighter. And you missed the F4u Corsair that was far better than the Hellcat against the Hayabusa and others. Also, the Hayabusa was far better than the Fairey Battle.
@williamacree1558
@williamacree1558 3 месяца назад
It was a night fighter.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
@@williamacree1558 only later in the war......they are using total loss figures to make up their ratio's......subtract the bomber losses from the total the ratio would improve greatly as the biggest threat to them at night was Mosquito night intruders or their own flak as the defensive armament of the British heavies was rather lacking. Yes a few were lost to the gunners on those heavies, but more were lost to Mossie's.
@tennouheikabannzai
@tennouheikabannzai 3 месяца назад
Hayabusa was Obsolete by 1943, thus, it was equally matched against P40/F4Ffighters, which also became obsolete by 1943.
@Dalesmanable
@Dalesmanable 3 месяца назад
Fairly Battle? It may have been crap, but it’s a [light] bomber not a fighter.
@amandastevenson4948
@amandastevenson4948 2 месяца назад
Leave her alone she's the tigger girl
@nightshade4186
@nightshade4186 3 месяца назад
Bro, the He 162 flew like five sorties during 1945.
@danielleica3990
@danielleica3990 3 месяца назад
Do 17 wasnt a fighter Potez 63 wasn t a fighter
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
You forced my to change my post.....Damn your eyes.......
@patrickmccrann991
@patrickmccrann991 3 месяца назад
Yes, it was. A Heavy Fighter like the ME 110.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
@@patrickmccrann991 You mean the Do-17? No she was a bomber that was pressed into service as a night fighter much like the Bristol Blenhiem was due to lack of adequate oppotions. The ME-110 was designed from the get-go to be a heavy bomber escort fighter, but was soon pushed out of that role after it became apparent she, 2nd only to the Stuka, was little more than easy meat for Hurricanes and Spitfires to gnaw on during the Battle of Britian. Instead of defending bomber formations over England, they had to form up in flying defensive circle and try to get the hell out of Dodge. She did make a fairly decent night fighter and a fast ground attack ight bomber on the eastern front.
@patrickmccrann991
@patrickmccrann991 3 месяца назад
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 No, Potez 63. She was very similar to the ME 110.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
@@patrickmccrann991 ah okay....when talking about a number of models, its best to say which one you are talking about. The Potez 63 was bit of a Frankenstein monster in her design specs. She was suppose to be a figher leader, directing more agile single engine fighters while staying out the furball herself, a recce machine, a light bomber and nighter fighter....a true jack of all trades and an absolute master of none. Apart from the light attack and recce roles, she was pretty much hopeless.
@gregwasserman2635
@gregwasserman2635 3 месяца назад
Where are the Defiant, the Skua, and the Roc? Were are the LaGG-1/-3? What the Blenheim fighter version? Special mention goes the Typhoon. As an a ground attack aircraft, it found it's role, but as a fighter, not so much.
@davidfernandes920
@davidfernandes920 3 месяца назад
Dornier 17,Potez 63,and Fairey Battle were bombers,this inappropriate to include in a video about kill/loss ratios of fighter aircraft.
@nco_gets_it
@nco_gets_it 3 месяца назад
by the logic of this video the B17 and B24 were terrible due to their losses to fighters...LOL
@carlnietoweise4653
@carlnietoweise4653 3 месяца назад
Artificial voices SUCK!
@renemourik6588
@renemourik6588 3 месяца назад
where is the Boulton Paul Defiant in your list ??????
@Dalesmanable
@Dalesmanable 3 месяца назад
Because it shot down a lot of aircraft.
@christoffermonikander2200
@christoffermonikander2200 3 месяца назад
For all those commenting on the Boulton Paul Defiant. It was never a bad plane or performed badly. It just suffered from the flawed concept of believing that fighters with rear mounted armament was a good idea. In fact, despite it short comings of its doctrine, the Defiant was actually surprisingly effective as a fighter, especially when it came to shooting down bombers and heavy fighters. Where it suffered was against faster single engine fighters, especially when attacked from the front where it lacked armament. The few times enemy fighters mistook Defiants for Hurricanes and attacked from the rear, the Defiants often came out on top.
@Thermopylae2007
@Thermopylae2007 3 месяца назад
I sense the curse of AI in these videos. The bulk of Potez 630s were the reconnaissance variant, and some were marketed abroad as ground attack aircraft. If they managed slightly more kills than overall losses, that's actually quite impressive. Add in the discussion of kill to loss ratio for bombers like the Dornier 17, I can't help but think that this video reflects the failings of AI.
@infoskipper1
@infoskipper1 3 месяца назад
surprisingly, no Italian fighter. The Potez was not a fighter but a Reco airplane
@tmcgill2219
@tmcgill2219 3 месяца назад
Ridiculous to include bombers like the Battle and the DO 17 in a list like this.
@rodneykelly8768
@rodneykelly8768 3 месяца назад
The BOEING P-26 PEASHOOTER served in the Philippines, flown by Philippine pilots, against the Japanese. One confirmed Betty Bomber kill, and another pilot claimed to have downed a Zero. Their air to air losses were horrific. I think six were lost.
@hose6282
@hose6282 3 месяца назад
the aircraft is obsolete and there were only 12 peashooters operated there
@tennouheikabannzai
@tennouheikabannzai 3 месяца назад
The Type97 of Japan beat the P51 flown by the Thailand Airforce. Surprise !!
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
@@hose6282 Weren't they also used at Midway Island and suffered heavy loses during the initial Japanese attack causing the Japanese to assume there were no USN carriers in the area which lead them to be caught swapping out torpedo's for bomb on their aircraft while on their decks when the USN caught them with their knickers down around their ankles.....
@patrickmccrann991
@patrickmccrann991 3 месяца назад
​@gumpyoldbugger6944 No, those were Brewster Buffalos not P-26s. There were no Army fighters at Midway, only Marine F4F Wildcats and Brewster Buffalos.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
@@patrickmccrann991 Ah right, you are correct.......didn't the Buffalo replace the Peashooter? Even though the Buffalo was long out out of date, obsolete and out-classed, the Finns made good use of them against the Soviets.
@superjuca55
@superjuca55 3 месяца назад
The I-16 was the FIRST modern monoplane fighter, having flown at the end of 1933... Everything that came after it had the obligation to be better given the fast evolution of tech in the 30s. You also fail to say that the vast majority of it's losses on the first days of the war were on the ground, with the luftwaffe destroying them parked in neat rows. The same thing with the Mig-3.
@Thermopylae2007
@Thermopylae2007 3 месяца назад
Similar things could be said of the Polish PLZ fighters. The stats seem to suggest that they downed slightly more Luftwaffe planes than their overall losses in September 1939, but once you subtract the planes destroyed on the ground, you get something more like an 8-10 kills to singular losses, which is very impressive.
@bradleymcavoy3432
@bradleymcavoy3432 3 месяца назад
Ki-43 stats are wrong ( It Shot down more Allies aircraft than any other Japanese fighter in the War!) and for a particular year when it was obsolescent after September of ‘43! 🙄🤦‍♂️🤨😎
@michaelnaisbitt7926
@michaelnaisbitt7926 3 месяца назад
In all these types of comparison clips It makes you realise just how good the Messerschmitt Bf 109 was when in combat with a whole heap of death traps like the Battle and Defiant The only aircraft that could match our beat it was the Hurricane or mighty Spitfire the rest were just junk
@nco_gets_it
@nco_gets_it 3 месяца назад
what almost all of these show is that the training of the Luftwaffe was generally better than the French and Russians at the start of the war. It also shows that if you want to compare kill ratios for bombers against fighters, the bomber will always lose. Another important note is that French and German tactical concepts were vastly different. The French in particular had massive problems with their entire aviation industry which could not provide aircraft in the numbers a modern air force required. That was compounded with an incomprehensible air doctrine that could never work and a command structure for their air force that was both inflexible and subordinate to the army. For the British, although the Fairey was obsolete and useless by 1940, it was obvious the British knew that and had already moved on from the single engine bomber concept. Their decision to keep Spitfires and more modern bombers in GB and not deploy them to France is part of the reason it appears to be so poor, but it seems that the British knew it was inferior and accepted that until more modern designs could be produced, they would get what they could out of it. As for the Japanese, they went into the war with great Naval Aviation machines, men, doctrine and tactics. However, their industry and training pipeline could not cope with attrition and rapid US production. During the war, the Japanese Army's aviation was far less effective and far less useful outside China/Far East areas where they flew against truly ancient machines for the era.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
Late Russian designs were more than a match for ME's or FW's......on the western front, most battles were fought at high attitudes, on the eastern front they were fought at low attitudes.....which is one of the reasons the Soviets were not very impressed with the Spitfires when they got them as they were more geared to the med to high combat areana and not the low one they were fighting in.
@michaelneuwirth3414
@michaelneuwirth3414 2 месяца назад
@@nco_gets_it Deutscher, 60. Es gibt vielerlei Gründe für die überraschenden Anfangserfolge der Wehrmacht zu Beginn des Krieges. Ich denke, dass die Alliierten zwar einen neuerlichen Krieg haben herauf ziehen sehen, aber ihn zu diesem frühen Zeitpunkt für völlig unwahrscheinlich hielten. Noch im Frühjahr 1938 etwa wäre jeder britische Marineoffizier, der zum damaligen Zeitpunkt in der "Kriegsmarine" einen ernstzunehmenden Gegner gesehen hätte, wohl seines Postens wegen Inkompetenz enthoben worden und auch die französischen Landstreitkräfte brauchten ihren potenziellen Gegner nicht wirklich zu fürchten. Die mangelnde wirtschaftliche Leistungsfähigkeit des 3. Reiches versprach einfach keinen schnellen Aufbau einer deutschen Marine oder eines größeren deutschen Heeres in den nächsten Jahren. Eine wirkliche Bedrohung und damit ein Krieg in den nächsten Jahren war allein aus praktischer Sicht unwahrscheinlich. In der Folge des Münchener Abkommen, dass die schrittweise Besetzung Tschechiens möglich machte, änderte sich dies dramatisch, da sich die gesamte Ausrüstung des tschechischen Heeres und auch die dortige Rüstungsindustrie angeeignet werden konnte, was die Kampfstärke deutsche Armee innerhalb weniger Monate um ca. 30 % vergrößerte. Weiter wurde zwar der Aufbau einer modernen, deutschen Luftwaffe registriert, aber über dessen Ausmaß und deren generellen Bedeutung in einem zukünftigen Krieg waren sich die damaligen Militärs auf allen Seiten uneinig, denn eigentlich nirgendwo war der Ausbau einer Luftwaffe personell und materiell als wirklich gleichberechtigte Teilstreitkraft vorangetrieben worden. Außer unter Hermann Göring, dem es als zweite Spitze im national-sozialistischen Staat eben möglich war, einen gewaltigen Teil des 1934 einsetzenden, gewaltigen Aufrüstungsprogramms in die Luftwaffe fließen zu lassen, mit dem klaren Ziel, mit dieser neuen Waffe wirklich Krieg zu führen. Die deutsche Luftwaffe war deshalb zu Beginn des Krieges an den entscheidenden Fronten als einzige Teilstreitkraft denen ihrer Gegner technisch und oft auch zahlenmäßig deutlich überlegen. Vor allem hatten Heer und Luftwaffe im spanischen Bürgerkrieg ihre Zusammenarbeit unter Kampfbedingungen erproben können und konnten dieses Wissen 1939/40 gleich anwenden, wohingegen die alliierten Luftwaffen ca. zwei Jahre dieser Entwicklung hinterherhinkten. Bis weit in das Jahr 1942 sollte die gesamte deutsche Kriegsführung von dieser Überlegenheit in der Luft profitieren.
@robertedwards1416
@robertedwards1416 3 месяца назад
Why are counting stats for bombers. 😮
@tennouheikabannzai
@tennouheikabannzai 3 месяца назад
How can a 1000hp all metal monocoque plane with retractable wheels be put down, when Soviet planes/Minor Europian planes/Other obsolete planes be rated normally. Ki43, was surly not bad if you consider the fights in south east asia, where obsolete planes were dominating the skies.
@richardbeckenbaugh1805
@richardbeckenbaugh1805 3 месяца назад
The HE-162 was flown by pilots with less than 100 hours in total. It wasn’t in widespread use and really shouldn’t be here because it wasn’t even operational until the end of the war. Same with many of the planes on this list. The P-40 Warhawk served with the flying tigers in China. Their fighter kills to losses were 6:1. Elsewhere, the P-40 didn’t fare as well. There were to that got airborne at Pearl Harbor. The rest were destroyed on the ground. Those two aircraft got six kills between them before their guns jammed and they had to run for it.
@brianspendelow840
@brianspendelow840 3 месяца назад
This list of fighters and bombers is unfair. Sure the Battle got slaughtered, but so was the Stuka when faced with fighters. The kill ratio of the Bolton Paul Defiant would have been more appropriate.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 месяца назад
Really sad.....three of the eight were bombers and not fighters.....try harder.
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