There is a lot of debate over how big Smaug is but we can basically scale his body based on the size of his teeth. If his teeth were 18inches (45cm) long the size of a small sword then his body would be about 150ft long or 47m. This is based on the study of dinosaur teeth which by comparison are only 3 to 4 inches long.
@@Novusod hm. Although you have to add a few feet to a dragon because it has a longer neck. Plus if it's a dragon and not a wyvern, you get 2 extra limbs and some extra dimensions added because of that.
@@archanasharan5800 haha a villain who had actual fighting experience for a thousand years got defeated by a hero who barely started fighting for a few years and won just because he/she has love and friendship on his/her side. ohhh i hate plot armors.
@@gaia9020 great comment man, THE DIFFICULTY OF CREATING SUCH A MOVIE SCENE WOULD PROVE TOO MUCH I THINK...TAKE PACIFIC RIM MOVIE OR GODZILLA AND MAKIN HIM 10 TIMES AS BIG....QUITE A CHALLENGE ID SAY....LOL . ITS LIKE SMAUG TURNS INTO BILBO-MODE , EXPLAINING HIMSELF BEFORE ANCALAGON....LOL
Glaurung was huge but it was his intelligence that made him far worse then the other dragons. He put a spell on Turin & his Sister so they would not know each other as siblings. When the two met they fell in love. Turin was able to kill Glaurung but even as he died he still won as his spell was undone and the two memories returned. They both died by their own hand , one by shame and the other by grief. Glaurung had many victories over the elves and humans during its life. I doubt any other dragon did as much damage to a culture as Glaurung. Only Smaug most likely came close with its victory at taking the lonely mountain as its lair .
There's meant to be like 7 of those in total Dragon Lung Dragon (Chinese dragon) Wyrm (snake like) Drake (wingless quadrupedal dragon) Wyvern Ampithere (winged snake) Lindwurm (snake with two legs)
I love dragons and I think Graur ung and Ancalagon, Smaug too, I love Graur ung's style of big, buff, and a ground dweller. I like Ancalagon's slick style and his big, thin, fast looking appearance, Smaug is so small compared to the other favorites, but he's cool. These are my favorite dragons and I hope you have a good day!
thanks, its sunny and beautiful outside. i hope i can get my mom and her headache to get outside. or myself. so i think my day is good. btw those are my favorite dragons too.
What i like about these dragons is the story around them. We know so little yet they are covered in a vast mistery like a myth or legend. Ancalgon in my opinion died because of his size. It was very slow and an easy target. However i would love to see this in a show.
Ancalagon was large but no freaking way was he mountain-sized. The destruction of thangorodrim by a relatively small object I think is easily explainable by science. Same way a large meteor launched at a planet would cause massive damage to vast areas around the impact spot despite being way smaller than the larger object
Not to mention Tolkien has a habit of having smaller creatures destroy large areas. The Balrog that Gandalf fights is said to destroy the side of a mountain when he falls, yet is described as essentially the size of a man. He does this a lot with dragons too, describing them as almost having death throes. Smaug completely destroys Laketown in his death, and Glaurung's death throes could be seen and heard for miles. Very easy to see Ancalagon's death as not being analogous to his size.
@@DesX42S Yeah but that only applies if they fought in a very high altitude. I dont know if there was a mention of how high in the sky they were fighting.
@@aurelian2668 uhm, no, it would not rely solely on altitude necessarily. The dragon could have fallen to the bottom of the mountains writhing like Glaurung and wiped them out from their base. However, we are told this is an aerial battle so I like to imagine they are up pretty high. Even if the dragon fell from a height similar to the peaks of thangorodrim, that is still incredibly high and hitting the mountains at the right trajectory with the dead magical body of a dragon as it flails about could take them down. I mean, probably still makes more sense to imagine Ancalagon with leveling a region in his death throes than to picture a dragon bigger than a mountain range.
Just googled it ancalgon was either 300 meters at his largest or 150 meters at his smallest godzilla 2016 was 300 meters , showa godzilla is 50 meters which would fit into ancalagon being 3x his size
Often wish Tolkien had put a bit more in about the War of Wrath. Supposedly the most epic showdown in the whole of Tolkien legendarium. The final battle between the greatest host ever assembled by the Valar and Morgoth's hoards of orcs, balrogs and dragons. And yet was awarded half a chapter in the Silmarillion with little to no detail on how it was even won.
Usually better to leave stuff like that as elements of grand myth and legend, takes away from a lot of the events themselves and the history that follows them. If events like that are explained in too much detail, the mythic nature of them starts to erode.
Smaug:"My skin is like armour tenfold, my teeth are swords my claws spears, my wings like a hurricane, and my breath... death!" Ancagalon: "Awwwww look at da wittle baby dwagon wit his wittle baby teef, and his wittle baby wings..."
Size doesn't means everything. You thnik that giraffe is more badass animal than Lion because is bigger? Oh course sometimes huge creatures are powerfull but not always. Smaug was the most badass dragon in Tolkien Universe even if not the most powerfull.
Ancalagon: My armour is like 1000 shields! My teeth are guillotines! My jaws are gates! My claws are rocks! The strike of my tail is an earthquake! My voice is thunder! And my breath is destruction!
Smaug was cool, but he was a flea compared to the mighty Ancalagon the Black. i would go to a movie version of the Simarillion just to see him on the big screen. Glaurung would be really cool to see as well, just for the possibility of seeing the best non-flight dragon on screen since Ray Harryhausen's Taro from 7th voyage of sinbad
You know the fun part?It is not actually described in the book HOW Ancalagon was killed.As if even Tolkien himself didn't manage to imagine a way of killing THAT.
We know they weren't directly created by morgoth as that was his biggest thing that drove him. He couldn't truly create. Twist and warp he did but only eru had the power to actually create.
You start with the statement that no one knows whether morgoth created the dragons or twisted something that already existed. We do know this. Morgoth cannot simply create anything. In fact only eru illuvatar can create. Every single example other than his acts of creations required the manipulation of already existing things. Even the valarie could only bring forth that which already existed within the song. Morgoth could only ever corrupt eru illuvatar's creations. Nothing more.
I want to replace Dragons of Tolkien to Dragons of Westeros (Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon). Balerion - Ancalagon Syrax Caraxes Seasmoke Meleys Vhagar - Glaurung Dreamfyre - Scatha (Mother of Viserion, Rhaegal, and Drogon) Viserion Rhaegal Drogon - Smaug They can speak like Tolkien Dragons but a little neutral creatures, not dragon riders and they were not created by Morgoth.
Tolkien never equated size to power = Take the balrog of Moria for example, can stand on the bridge of Khazad Dum yet it's death fall was said to broke the side of the mountain in the book. So while Ancalagon may be the mightiest winged dragon alive he need not be the size of a mountain to break Thangorodrim under him.
That's the only reason any dragons die in any fantasy setting. No humanoid could ever hope to compete with a dragon, other than immensely powerful magi, but that type of magic doesn't even exist in Middle Earth. Just look at Gandalf, he's basically an old swordsman with the ability to conjure light, lol, and he's the most powerful magic user in the series.
@@jaysoniorg2950 Actually gandalf was a maiar, servants of valar and were sent to middle earth with only a fraction of their power because they were to motivate people to fight sauron instead of directly indulging with him. His Maia name was olorin .
@@jaysoniorg2950 there are lots of examples of Gandalf subtly using magic, and a good number where he is obviously using magical commands and divination. And you can't forget the Sarumon scene where he demonstrates his ability to lift people up and toss them like a rock.
I like Dragons very much especially the ones that can talk, think and have tremendous strengths with magical abilities. I like Smaug but I didn't realize there were more and the only ones beside the golden wyrm were Glaurung and Ancalagon. They need voice actors and personalities in future movies.
@@paulangelopineda2534 I did but they are always stuck in different alignments with 2 Gods, The Metallics are being Good and the Chromatics are being Evil
Four of the seven dwarf rings were either swallowed by dragons or melted by dragon fire. Also in the world of Middle Earth, dragon fire could melt the one ring. but I doubt finding a dragon and asking him nicely if he'd melt the ring would have gone over well, so mount doom it is.
@@xenxander This is incorrect. Dragon Fire could destroy the Rings of Power (the Dwarven Rings were destroyed that way), but not the One Ring crafted by Sauron. Neither the fire of Ancalagon or any other great dragon was ever hot enough to melt it. Only the fires of Mt. Doom could destroy the Ring of Sauron.
I'm a dragon lover. Literally clicked on the video because I wanted more Ancalagon. Was disappointed that he was just barely mentioned as part of a group.
@@badrzouggagh but in a picture In another video, it showed Smaug to be very small, and it said that he is actually between like 15 to 18ft long, I was like, this is the guy whose teeth are swords, claws are spears, and destroyed to kingdoms, and ruled, he also said the king eagles could probably take out Smaug, I was so confused
@@jylgeekd2498 that's a fan art nothing more it's not canon sure ancalagon is far bigger but to be that big will make him able to stomp godzilla like an ant so he might be the size of godzilla or slightly larger
@@jylgeekd2498 hes not, not very small, just not very much in comparison to his mighty ancestors, he is still huge and terrifying. tolkien never states he is the smallest of the dragons, thats an overstatement
At 3:40, while referring to Scatha, there is an image of Túrin Turambar slaying Glaurung with Gurthang, a sword that had been reforged by the elves of Nargothrond, from the sword Anglachel. It is a great picture, but in the wrong place 😉
And yet just 1 of them managed to appear on the screen so far. I can’t believe that we still only scratched the surface. I mean what was it? Like the movies covered just 250 years (counting Hobbit and LotR together) of the story and we still have the *ENTIRE* Silmarillion untouched!
I’m glad it’s left untouched, New Age Directors and Companies just want Game Of Thrones, so if they did touch Silmarrillion, they would change the story dramatically, add strong language, graphic sexual situations and elements of forced equality! This new age can’t touch Silmarrillion, but I fear it will, and it’ll ruin it forever
@@koheletcalaforexclan6508 well i hope you heard about Amazon's LOTR series set in 2nd age.. that is Numenor, Sauron being nice and not having a plan within plan within plan..
Morgoth is like the Soviets in Afghanistan. Spend millions on a Attack helicopter and a guy with a camel can shoot it down with a $10,000 handheld rocket launcher.
Not really I mean Morgoth is fighting Valar. It's like if the Soviets spent billions in Afghanistan but then the USA arrived in force, instead of just supplying weapons to the Mujahadeen. I mean the USA would be the Valar in this analogy
Not that many were shot down in Afghanistan,by Stinger a few dozen compared to the ammount of sorties they made that is negliglibe.The stingers light warheads and expiernced pilots plus advanced training reduced the threat of stingers greatly. Americans lost thousands of helicopters in Vietnam,inculding hundreds of Cobras,yet they made millions of sorties too.
Even though considering the fact that they scaled up Smaug 8 times when compared to how big he was in the book, Ancalagon the Black may indeed still be larger than movie Smaug, the scale of which we see in the picture of the thumbnail isn’t correct if we are to use movie Smaug. If however we use that scale and have movie Smaug be canon then I don’t think Ancalagon the Black could’ve even existed, as it would’ve never been possible to defeat such a titan that dwarfs the likes of film Smaug.
Yeah smaug is honestly a hobbit when comparing him to his ancestors, although smaug is pretty much the last dragon in the third age, so when he perished so did one of the great terrors of morgoth the dragons
0:40 can not understand that there is a debate if morgoth created dragons. the silmarillion is quite clear about it. since morgoth could not find the fire of creation he never was able to create new life, only to corrupt and pervert existing life. those pervertions were: orcs --> elves trolls --> ents there are debates from what creatures the dragons were perverted
But he also had maias following him. Balrogs are not perverted by Morgoth they were just maia following him and taking a horrible form. The dragons could be the same but in their case Morgoth may have "helped" with the transformation.
@@FrostDragon667 yes that could be. i was refering to whether morgoth had actually created them in the way aule created the dwarfs. in the silmarillion it is said that morgoth never had that ability.
Because most people never read the silmarillion. It’s tragic but true. The best piece of fantasy literature and most either never pick it up or can’t get past the first section.
@@killahasbigrpk8711 no, im pretty sure he says bees, that's precisely why I quoted it using the word "bee". If you have any contextual evidence, lore-wise or not, supportive of the assertion he's not in fact referring to bees, but instead to other entity or concept, either figuratively - which I'll admit is plausible - or even literally - as suggested by others concerning one creature that goes by the name "Beast" - although i find this unlikely, feel free to share.
@@witchlynproductions753 well, no. smaug was not that weak, plus its never stated in tolkiens works that ancalagon was so much larger than smaug's kind/kin, nor is it clear if it was ancalagons dead body wich broke the peaks of morgoths mountains, but i can suspect his fall broke them so that the light of the sun would shine upon angband, from wich morgoths freed slaves then emerged. but we really don't know.
@@witchlynproductions753 Yeah Tolkien specified Smaug was "the greatest fire drake of the third age." He wasn't as big as Ancalagon, but neither was any other dragon. Generally, dragons started relatively small in size (Glaurung, the first dragon, had a head not much longer than a person) then increased in size for a while. Though this peaked with Ancalagon, the "great" dragons stayed pretty damn huge. The death of Smaug literally marked the death of the last Great Dragons. The reason no other dragons went to fight for Erebor's gold was because they knew Smaug had his eyes on it. They weren't gonna mess with that.
@@CrazyHeadassery okay yes you did read it wrong, I said Ancalagon was the inspiration for Deathwing. meaning Deathwing was based off of Ancalagon, well atleast in my head canon lmao
Ancalagon was stronger than Sauron, and Gothmog was stronger than both. Just to put this into perspective, getting even close to Sauron or interacting with him will drive any mortal insane because his very presence is oppressive to everything around it. It'd be like entering the gravitational field of a more massive object.
From where did you get the information about Gostir and Tom´s Bombadil Dragon? I would very apreciate your assistance given that I´m reading Tolkien´s books. Good video!
Im pretty sure it is said that evil cannot create life, they only have the ability to corrupt it. So the origins of dragons has to be some sort of reptillian beast that Morgoth originally corrupted during his rule
The Hobbit and Tom Bombadil both grew out of stories Tolkien would make up and tell his kids. I think it's possible it was actually the same story, but he split them apart in his published books for reasons.
Tolkien really made no clear telling to the size of Ancalagon that I know of.... in fact the only reference I could find was a comment by Gandalf that it had the hottest fire, "not even Ancalagon the Black" could melt the One Ring by consuming it. It also seems pretty evident that Ancalagon would have been quite a lot tougher than Smaug being bred and trained as a war dragon as it were, and certainly would have given Smaug a run for the money if it didn't turn tail and run on sight. Even if it wasn't mountain sized by comparison. I wrote a schpiel about this a few years ago and made my arguments lol quora What-is-the-size-difference-between-Ancalagon-the-Black-and-Smaug
Ancalagon typically ran on 50 EPH (elephants per hour). But may have needed as many as 200 per hour during war activities. And lets not even talk about toilet duty. Uchh..... lets just say the standard garden shovel will not do
