The Acolyte Series Premiere Review - Lost/Found and Revenge/Justice 

That’s so true 🤣

I was also thinking that 😂

I kept yelling out “THATS A OSHA VIOLATION”

I was waiting for her to say “this is a violation “

Explain, please...?

Thanks!

@@StarWarsExplained I get that the Prequel Jedi are a far cry from how they are in the High Republic and this left them an easier target to the Sith, but it can kind of get tiring constantly hearing the flaws of Prequel Jedi and of the Galactic Republic in that era. The golden age may be gone, but I wouldn’t say they have a failing society. Heck, I like to see a story where the Jedi and their allies unintentionally foil the plans of the Sith by defeating their public proxies who are on a mission. Granted, such a failure would not stop the rise of the Sith, but it would be nice to know they could be hurt. I mean, Palpatine and Dooku were kind of panicking in Season 6 of the Clone Wars when the Jedi got close to uncovering the truth of the Clone Troopers. It also would be nice if inside-of-the-box thinking and following the rules wasn’t always showed as a flaw. We’ve got plenty of stories showing the horrors of blind obedience and that not being normal can be a strength, but it can make being a normal boring person feel wrong.

One thing I missed hearing about was the moment when Qimir realised it was Osha and doesn't seem surprised or angry, instead he leans in and almost whispers to let her know he knows, and yes, sounds to me like he clearly understands it's a setup. As someone else said in the comments: he knows more about the situation than his supposed partner Mae who WAS surprised that Osha was still alive. Definitely more intrigue to come from him.

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I was thinking the same thing

Yeah agreed with you two

I’m thinking the same thing, especially how when she says she a meknek it’s immediately known that she’s out doing a job that had been taken over by astromech droids

@@ryangass8268 Yes, it's the ilicit nature of the work that makes her a "meknek." She's sticking her neck out so to speak, doing a job that has legally been relegated to droids, presumably because it's cheaper. There is an unsavory connotation to the word. If she says, "I'm a mechanic," that's a respectable occupation.

Exactly shes a human astromech, I assume because its cheaper. Its probably called that because youre a mechanic thats risks your neck. Meknek.

This! Or she grabs for the saber because if she can disarm them it makes for killing them without a weapon a little more plausible

No, remember Savage Oppress and Kirak Infil'a. All she needed to do was take one from her Victim. Her "Master" might be The Apprentice but not planning to make Mae The Apprentice in turn.

True, but it seem odd that she didn't take the first Jedi masters' lightsaber, after killing her...

Yeah it definitely feels like a Sith initiation thing to kill 3 Jedi without a weapon. I feel like she’s going to take her last victim’s lightsaber and try to bleed the crystal as her final test. I also don’t think Mae is making it out alive. I think the “master” is really the Sith apprentice trying to train his own apprentice in secret to overthrow his master (possibly Plagueis it Tenebrous). I theorize that the true Sith Lord will become aware of all of this and kill the Acolytes.

@@Exxperiment626 I remember reading somewhere that the crystal a Sith takes has to be from a living Jedi. I'm not sure if that's canon, but it would fit nicely as a sort of coup de gracè. Kill the Jedi with their own blade and the crystal should shift allegiance. Then bleed it to make her Sith lightsaber. Either way I'm willing to give the show a chance because there's definitely some good mixed in there with the bad.

I think everyone involved is going to die so the Sith can keep their cover-up. It makes the Sith really terrifying as no one knows who is a Sith accomplice or not since they are their fingers in almost every political, economic, and corporate side of the Galaxy.

Truly having an open mind is taking it on face value as fact and is a representation of the facts as they happen. Real life would suck even more than it already does if you were to question and criticise everything that happens in your life such as not thinking the Amazon delivery driver would actually deliver your order to you in the way he did, saying what he did and so on. Imagine going online to complain that the Amazon guy had bad dialogue (mostly that would be the case). We don’t question it because it just happened, that’s that. Basically I think you get more out of fantasy fiction when you observe it like you would a documentary perhaps. The overriding feeling is not to get mad about how you would have done it differently, sure you might think that but you are learning the facts of what did actually happen. This approach lessens the effect of keeping yourself and everyone you corrupt out of the story. I just kind of dislike how everyone treats fiction these days. It’s supposed to be entertaining, engaging and a chance to dip into a more interesting and exciting life than we might live through. The enjoyment is sucked out of it when we constantly directly criticise writers and directors. Having said all that it is of paramount importance that the story is evolutionary connected and maintained. The sequels were a different beast, little or no understanding of what came before, inaccurate representations of already established characters and organisations. I can buy into this series so far as a history documentary. Not having a go at you personally with your comment. I agree to be honest, just annoyed that so many people have a bad attitude about consuming fiction these days. I remember a better time.

Exactly! The reason many (former) Star Wars fans have crossed into "hate monger" territory is because they went into something (movie, series, whichever) with a stack of expectations that the content didn't adhere to, and they went to the Dark Side because of it. The only thing I can't figure out is why they keep watching and complaining if they hate it so much. If you don't like it, that's fine.... but move on. Personally, I haven't read any of the books or comic from the High Republic era, and I learned a long time ago to simply watch what is being offered, follow along with the story and characters, and THEN decide if I like it or not. So far, I haven't been outright disappointed since The Last Jedi... and I'll only take 1/2 credit for that (the other half belongs to the writer/director/editor) because they went out of their way to subvert expectations. Enough of that, though. So far with this series, and I realize we're only 2 episodes in, but I'm fully invested in the story and the characters. Some have stated that some of the dialogue was repetitive and "heavy handed" about it.... but at the start, I'm okay with it. I think it should lighten up as the series goes along.

Agreed

​@illuminaticomics2253I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and assume you must be watching in under 1080p. Because in HD it all looks great.

Most level headed take.

@@jaxsonfryar3795 levelheaded, but also honest because I don’t shy away from how I truly think about something. I make up my own mind. So again with that being said, I think even though the first two episodes had an underwhelming quality to them. I also think they were decent at best.

"Normies" do not quote the Sith Code. IRL or In Universe. As much as I think Mae might be doing an Op for The Apprentice, the fact that she didn't steal a lightsaber is extremely telling. Even Savage Oppress was ordered to do that. Mae isn't being set up to be The Apprentice's Apprentice.

A guy who just helps know the Sith Code? He is helping convince her to look for the weakness. Kills a shop owner? He is very suspicious. I think he is the Sith. Possibly Revan.

@@jeffreymeehan3116 I haven’t seen enough to rule out the poison supplier as one of the two Sith Lords yet.

@@causticabuser2466 Too late for Revan. Revan was made canon again in the sequels and he's noted as an *ancient* Sith Lord ie thousands of years ago (as it was in old canon). The show is set around a century before TPM

@@causticabuser2466 Reven doesn’t have a canon timeframe to my knowledge, but his legends timeline was 2800 years before this show.

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Seriously though! I'm new to this channel, and it's so refreshing to find a Star wars community that actually likes Star wars anymore. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of us think that it's 100% perfect, but pretty much since the first changes were made to the original trilogy by George Lucas, there have been so many haters and it never stopped. Thanks for being a wholesome place to be!

@@BradWithers Agreed!

Eventually this community started to feel a bit too much like The Giver. It is *always* positive. Negativity is frowned upon. If something is bad, ignore it like an ostrich sticking their head in the sand. It eventually all started to feel very disingenuous, because even when some things deserved strong criticism all anyone would say was "I liked it!". I feel like this channel could cover the Star Wars Holiday Special and still unironically give it a 6/10 after "watching it with an open mind", because negativity is frowned upon here.

But they aren’t more insular and dogmatic…. They just aren’t focused on their core mission - protecting the galaxy from the Sith!

I love how this bookish doofus is already getting fans. Already seen posts saying he feels like one of the Kens in the Barbie movie became a Jedi.

The amount of times I yelled “Get fuc*ed, Yord” at my screen was like six. That dude is a goober for sure.

​@myriadmediamusings you saw the barbie movie? HAH😂 just kidding.

YORD HORDE!

Yord 🐐🐐🐐

Yeah, this show definitely has serious High Republic vibes and I'm a fan of the High Republic. Seems outside of Andor, the Mandalorian, and the Bad Batch the High Republic storyline is probably the best thing Disney has pulled off when it comes to Star Wars. Now watch all the hate flow in....

I get the difference between book and show Vernestra.. but then again it's been a century since the book setting. As for Yord being a bit of a tool lol that is also intentional; I think he's meant to portray where Jedi are headed: increasingly straightlaced and dogmatic. Also he's not been a Knight for long so that would also explain it :)

My son thinks he is the Sith Lord

I agree. He gives me early palpatine vibes. He acts fearful and fragile but yet is still teaching Mae

He also is a skilled fighter. When Mae attacked him he dodged her attacks kinda like Indara..

Just came here to comment this. Needed to re watch it but I was sure it happened during both fights

If she wanted a saber, she could have easily taken trinity’s after she killed her and left it by her body! Maybe it has to be with their own

@@DarrynNightmaretrue, and there was a clear shot of it being left behind.

Agreed

I actually like Yord, he's a dork and very formal, but Jedi arguably should be. Attaining spiritual discipline takes effort and self mastery, and him following standard procedure is to be expected during an active homicide investigation.

He seems a very skilled fighter and investigator to me. He's just young and inexperienced.

The fact he's got a Padawan of his own a mere TWO YEARS after being Knighted - something that would be seen as highly unusual by the Prequels - either means he's definitely a prodigy or Jedi doctrine shifts massively after this series to ensure Jedi got more solo mission time as Knights before being allowed to take on a student.

@@generalilbisI think the doctrine did shift by the prequels, and then it shifted again during the Clone Wars. This, at least, seems to have flexed with the times… unlike other rules which seem to be more entrenched.

That said, I didn’t trust Yord’s immediate response clearing Osha… we know he followed her, but why was he hiding around the corner until then? I think we’re supposed to mistrust Qimir more than Yord, but I’m starting to fall for the scoundrel’s charms.

Repairing ships on the outside while wearing magnetic boots is right out of Star Trek. I wish they had been more creative with it. That whole scene could be cut imo.

Since she does it the same way both fights, I feel like it maybe is a part of that whole hunt she’s up to

I take it, at least in part, as her being in over her head. And I imagine challenging someone to a dual, rather than trying to assassinate them, is part of the challenge she’s supposed to take. She needs to beat one of them unarmed in a fair fight.

I keep imagining how Kenobi would handle this. He would give a joke, then a warning, an ultimatum, a mind trick, and if Mae tries something after that he would take a limb. That is probably why he survived as long as he did. The Jedi Masters we meet 1000% didn't want to hurt Mae physically or emotionally. Kenobi Played for Keeps.

I just think how sidious kills Jedi without a weapon. Mae doesn’t get it. I figure we will end seeing who would be plagues master succeeding at this.

I take her a religious fanatic, she doesn't want to do this only for revenge but for approval

OH I'm smitten with the lil guy - and thanks! -Mollie

Fight choreo was great. I miss the days of Greig Fraser being DP on Mando S1. This show was not lit well in several sequences and made it look cheaper than it actually was. But an okay start overall to the series.

@@FilonisHatyeah but you do realize Greg only worked on like 2 episodes of the Mandalorian.

@@MrTragedious986 Yeah, and those two had film level photography. I miss that.

She was a favorite for me from the trailers and that's holding up so far. I didn't think of the Ahsoka comparison, but I can see it.

@@zephyr835 ya I really hope she survives this show

@@anthonyarmento1349 I hope she also doesn't become totally jaded.

@@zephyr835 ya me to

@@anthonyarmento1349 boy that aged poorly

Indeed! This is no slow burner but rather a great showdown right up my alley.

Haha

Idk what charger is talking about, Star Wars explained will definitely cover that game once more news about it drops! I really hope we get an update soon!

Yeah, same here. This series is off to a great start IMHO!

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@@TMAC803210 actually it’s insulting to compare ahoska and the acolyte to Andor because they’re two different shows so stop comparing, which show is better than the other because they are nothing like

Indeed. It's their twisted way of getting bling bling. I bet that at least 50% of these 'fans' have High Blood Pressure problems way before senior years. Late this evening gonna wind-down with S01E01 (i stream second tomorrow or friday) 🙂 Doing it via "65 Led Telly & to have rejuvenating Ginger Tea Cuppa 🙂 I love Aesthetics, Wardrobe, Jedi Ship & many more look El Bueno in The Acolyte 🙂 Enjoy the Season & share el bueno word o/

Ignore the people determined to hate everything before they've even seen it, I'm enjoying the show so far and plenty of other Star Wars fans are too. Like I'll offer critisms if they're warented, but so far I like the premise and what the show is building up.

@@neutronstarpilot4393 It looks like you and the other twelve fans who enjoyed the show weren't enough to get a season two. Rats!

@austinbaccus It would seem so, we're doing fine, we formed a group and help each other through this troubling time The support is strong and we'll be OK, we got this.

I also didn't pay attention to any marketing and had no idea about the twin thing. I like how for those of us, the message really ties in about not trusting your eyes alone.

big disagree, this show is showing the follies of aging in a changing world really well

@@ciennaquidd6486 So you think Vernestra became a bad Jedi just because she aged?

In the book I currently read she says how much she dislikes poltitics, so genuinely curious what happened to her.

Using Legends materials Plagueis is a child at this time and has just entered the tutelage of Darth Tenebrous, Plagueis’ master. In terms of Disney Continuity who knows? Plagueis could be older, I really hope he appears to contain this upstart dark sider

A great ending would be “the master” dying only to reveal he was teneborus’ student, (same way dooku had ventress (mae) while still palpatines student) then when the master dies, he takes on his new pupil, plagueous!

Did you have zero expectations?

...of how bad it is?

​@@Theworthlessopinion yeah I actually had below zero expectations for it and thus it exceeded everyone and I ended up liking it. Prolly an 8 for me so far.

People don't like the agenda driven casting, directing and show runner. This show never had any chance to be judged on merit and everyone involved knew that when they developed it. Disney wanted more representation in their big budget content, and a larger segment of the fans, don't like when you ignore the target audience in favor of a cause.

Stories that don't have any sort of message are bad stories. Good stories say something important about the real world. People who complain about the "messages" in stories aren't really upset about stories having any message at all. They just want every story's message to agree with their own values. They don't want their beliefs challenged. Which is ironic, since Star Wars has NEVER aligned with these peoples' values. They were just either too young or too stupid when they watched the Originals or Prequels to understand this.

Who’s that Jedi?

@@plokoon4130 who was the Jedi character I came up with or who was the Jedi from the episode?

@@Jedi_Spartan The one you came up with

Money

Le pagan

I understood that reference.

Hahaha haha. Best show ever!