People say "Oh, this dance is easy, I learnt it within ___ minutes" but there's a difference from being able to learn the dance fast and being able to do it well.
@Thy Nguyen i learn the dances depending on how much repetition theres is: for example some recycle movements (like loona's why not) but others dont (so what) and i like to learn the whole song from beginning to end so sometiems it takes way more than others.
Taemin's body control is unworldly for a self-taught dancer. Honestly, the only way to describe his dancing is... if it looks hard, it's hard. If if looks easy, it's even harder. I love his unorthdox method of dancing!
if im not wrong in some interviews he said that 'Move' choreo existed that way since he's thinking 'ah choreo of a song doesn't need to be so out of breath all the time to be amazing' after shinee comeback dance doesn't make him tired which makes him kinda disappointed since it doesn't feel so satisfying. so he definitely wanting to not go hard on the dance, but it just make it more harder for everyone 😭
I know this is like from ages ago but Taemin's "Advice" Choreography along with the rest of the members of ShiNee for "Don't Call Me" jeezz I could never.
when you said "if it looks easy, it's even harder" you kept me 3 years thinking about it. this is the ultimate truth. you simply KNOW and it is CORRECT.
It's a difficult attitude to capture. The dance comes first. They aren't using the dance to convey an aesthetic, the dance _is_ the aesthetic. How can a tool be its own end result??? . It's like you are going to insist on using a hammer to build an Ikea bed that can only be built excellently with a hammer. Sure you can use screwdrivers, or books or even your bare hands, and the bed can still be built, but the Ikea bed, in its final form, shows you that there are certain things that only a hammer can do. "Look at how much I can push the boundaries of hammer use." Normally, the hammer is just one way to help build a bed, but in this particular case, the bed can't exist as beautifully without the use of the hammer. Every time you lie down and you feel perfect back support, somehow you won't think "This bed is really comfortable" but "Look how excellent a hammer can be". Sounds ridiculous? You bet, but that is the strange but completely understandable aesthetic of 7th sense, and all abstract art - if one learns to appreciate hammers.
just watch this video again and there is part 2 of this, and i couldn’t agree more. For example, hardly can you see anyone cover 24h, mostly Fullmoon of Sunmi. I still have to say most of SM’s chreographies are very detailed. Best dancers in SM are usually good at popping, because this type of dance requires great control of body parts. You can do cardio yourself, but need train many hours to learn to control the moves and isolation
omgeee. I was just bout to comment this! Lol. Like a lot of people hated on the song and the choreography cause they was like "iT JuSt DOeSn'T MaKe SenSe", like wtf is there to make sense?!? It's not something you see! It's something you FEEL. Like the song is such a VIIIBE and the Choreo goes so HARD even to this day. It honestly did not get the recognition it deserved with the Kpop community, but I guess that's what happens when Kpop actually puts talented stuff/people out. When this song and video had dropped I was so hallucinated by their movements. Deep into it. My friend tried to say "That's not even hard", like ok Ms.TwoLeftLeg. My inner dance girl fan girled AF to this debut song of theirs.
The 7th sense is just the best debut song I've ever heard and seen. You watch the MV and the first thing you think is "who are these guys?" And then, you become an nctzen :)
Exactly and people use it as an excuse to discredit girl group dances as well just because they might not look as powerful as boygroup dances when in fact most of them are just as difficult or maybe even more.
@@ccsbm208 I agree but many GG's don't have strong choreo. Many have basic choreo. Groups like red velvet, twice and loona I would say have very unique choreo. And red velvet has stage performances ,like twice that really are unique and change up. Not gonna lie, ppl should start respecting GG's on their dancing.They are more than visuals and fashion models, they should be noticed for their stage presence, charm, vocals and dancing. As a female I am being honest when I say not many gg choreos wow me, but the choreos that are hard, unique or something, are the ones that hardly get enough credit
That's a really good point, The 7th Sense isn't sexy or cute or sensual. I always thought it was haunting. Even the lyrics make up a different, more sinister story.
That’s why I love the song, it’s honestly up to anyone’s interpretation of what it is. For me, it gives off a hard to describe vibe. It’s fast but slow at the same time. Kind of like life, way too fast, but also way too slow.
Yesss, finally somebody who knows what they're talking about. No shade to the other lists but most dances on there are fast, not hard. But for non-dancers, the fast ones just look more difficult. Taemin's choreos are insane though. That man has more control over his left pinkie than I have over my whole body. (That's a joke, I also dance but still lmaoo)
wow, i strongly agree at your words. thankyou for finding the words that i'm thingking this whole time but can't tell it with words. the "most dances on there are fast, not hard" is what i always think on every 'the hardest choreo in kpop' videos, no shades but that's facts so
Hannah the faster dances let you mess up or be sloppy once in a while and it won’t be that noticeable but slower dances you have to be more precise and sharp
@@yukihirarin3387 that's not always true though. Fast paced choreos move so quick that even a little mishap where you lose body control can be foreseen, but on the other hand slow paced songs like Move require such detailed and precise movements. That's probably the reason why some idols/dancers who cover Move seem a bit awkward sometimes.
I tried to do move in my bedroom and I can't dance to save my life so it looked like an absolute disaster Tbh I'm the person who learns every BTS chorus and they all look nothing like the original dance
Ha !O omg true... I really hope he debuts as a solo artist soon. He is a scene stealer fr... I love exo but Jongin as a dancer is just on a whole other level fr
@@Seriphina Not his fan cam from Boss being my favorite. As a person who doesn't know anything about dancing, I can say that I would have never thought of him to be a weaker dancer (meaning he looks good doing the choreos). I'm guessing that he's either strict with himself in general for both vocals/dance or he's gotten compared to other members because he can definitely dance. Recently it seems like he has gained more confidence in his dancing.
@@mellisalake7490 i'm not sure how interested you are haha but doyoung is one of if not the weakest dancers in nct. generally speaking, a lot of idols have this level of dance ability where they can get to the "execute the choreography without standing out in a bad way" level but they don't actually develop the required technique to have much going on in their body. doyoung in particular doesn't really have a lot of ease in his coordination. this is unlikely to be a result of being insecure in dance because it's more of a muscle memory thing but it could possibly exacerbate his already present uneasy coordination. with nct in particular, they often have to perform groovy choreography, and doyoung hasn't developed his groove, even as recently as baggy jeans (compare to mark, especially in that shoulder isolation move in the chorus). his isolations are lacking as well (honestly you could compare to any of them but ty and ten are generally pretty good with those so compare to them). doyoung lacks a lot of the finer control the others in 7th sense/baggy jeans unit have developed - this doesn't stop him (and other dancers like him) from executing the choreography and looking decent/good to the untrained eye but it is still a noticeable lack of technique. he also struggles with applying power and dynamics (not surprising - if you're working on executing the isolations, you're not really at the point where you're going to start worrying about your dynamics). none of this is to say doyoung is a bad dancer - bad dancers in kpop (by a very generous standard - judging them as idols with arguably sub-par training) are few and far between. but there's this thing with idols where they'll be able to execute choreography within a certain standard that is generally considered acceptable for idols. most of these idols develop technique in a very uneven way that would be considered weird and wrong for dance students but seems to actually just be a result of the kind of training these idols receive. idols seem to skip the "do a lot of drills to develop proper habits" step (which is generally the first thing you do as a dance student in studio - even people who learn just by freestyling end up doing a lot of drills (in freestyle format) - freestyling in hip hop for like a year is going to be a year of you grooving freely to the music, and that's how you develop your groove). this isn't really a bad thing for the standard that idols are trying to get to but it does result in most of them looking very same-y and having flawed technique (some exceptions - i'd say someone like wonbin riize still falls within the 'meets idol standards' category but mostly because he looks VERY fourth gen lol) because they never develop the technique required to go beyond "just execute the choreography." generally even the best among this group (which - they can be quite decent. not dragging them) execute the choreography in an ideal way without going past that. it's sort of a mindset thing, i think - seeing dance as a part of your job vs seeing dance as an artform you're pursuing and a means of expression. i would say someone like haewon who generally has very ideal execution of gg choreography is like this - she is materially doing all the correct things and it looks great and is very enjoyable to watch, but there isn't any inner expression beyond that. once again, not a bad thing. there are of course standouts (ten, mark, ty, etc) who go beyond this standard and nct does have sort of an unusually high concentration of people who end up looking more like dance students/arguably even professionals than idols who are just doing their job while dancing. some of them (ten, mark, ty, jisung, yangyang ig?, haechan too mb) are quite notable standouts but nct in general has a weirdly high number of members who actually do make stylistic choices and while they don't always go beyond the idol expectations in execution (mainly due to lack of technique), they're still a lot more interesting on average than most kpop bgs. like for stray kids (random example, not shading them lol) the only two i would say are actually interesting from a dance perspective are lee know (not stylistic at all but his technique is solid) and hyunjin (very stylistic) and everyone else is kind of just what you'd expect to see from an idol. in nct on the other hand, apart from like doyoung, taeil, maybe kun (and not sure about hendery and johnny i haven't decided yet) they all have qualities that still make them notable as dancers beyond just the basic "executes the choreography". like i wouldn't really say xiaojun is going above and beyond and blowing my mind but he does have an interesting sort of energy especially when doing gg choreo (even as a joke) that makes me want to enroll him in voguing classes. jeno has this interesting taeyong but with less refinement and more groove (and less injury prone also) thing going on. chenle seems to be developing a softer sort of groove that's not as big as the very old school hip hop groove mark has. jungwoo can't groove to save his life but his lines are actually quite decent and he uses his upper body in a lyrical way. jaehyun looks like he's actually a studio hip hop student. so like doyoung IS one of the weakest members in nct dance-wise but that's not really because he's bad it's mostly because he's in a group with a bunch of people who just have a lot more interesting elements to their dancing and he is kind of like doing the wonderbread version of the choreography.
@@ishathakor Sorry for the late response I just saw your reply. Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed/long reply. I'm always interested/open to learning about new topics although I don't know how long I'll remember it for. I do wish they would give proper training at least when it comes to technique to all idols because that could potentially physically harm them. Now it makes sense why as someone who doesn't know much about technique didn't think of Doyoung as a weak dancer. So he executes the moves but not with the right technique/adding stylistic choices. I think I understand that because some moves look more comfortable when other members are doing them. I don't know much about vocals either but it's kind of the same thing with vocals - you can hit the same note but not with the right technique or support. I've heard that Doyoung is one of the weaker dancers in NCT and did not mean to imply that Doyoung is better than other members but more that it wasn't to the point of him standing out from the rest of the group. Even if I don't know much I can tell that Mark, Taeyong, and Ten are really good at dancing. There's no denying their capabilities along with the other members. Ig it's a mix of my previous comment he thinks he can't dance because he's strict with himself to be as good as the other members. Thank you again! Although I still don't know much about dance at least I know more than I did before.
most of these choreographies are not meant to be dance alone thats why when you try to do it alone it will look a little bit (using your term) hippoish...
I saw someone refer to themselves as a praying mantis having a seizure, and that is EXACTLY what everyone besides Taemin looks like doing this choreo. He's INSANE 🤯❤
It does frustrate me that a lot of noobs when they see a choreography with big hand movements and kicks they think wow this is hard, but being technical and in control is much harder
True... said from someone who is not an experienced dancer (I danced as a teen, I'm in my 30's), but I remember a lot of slower dances being way harder than fast moving pop, because fast movements can allow you a little leniency because in a group, it's harder to make out the mistakes (unless you are an experienced dancer). Slower and technical movements have so many components to them I never reached that level (I stopped dancing because my last dance teacher was a really bad one).
Yeah, when you look at difficult as in complicated and fast choreos most members usually look good, but in the slow, expressive and controlled choreos the "real" dancers stand out.
Move really is the final boss of Kpop choreos. Many have tried but no one has executed it as gracefully as Taemin, except the choreographer herself. Its been 4 years since I originally first saw it but my God im still mesmerized every time he performs it
Because groups with big names get more attention. As long as you put the right people in the thumbnail you'll get views almost by default haha. They don't care about the actual dancing because if they did videos like this would be more popular. Not that I'm putting down any groups performing on stage alone is hard enough.
I've been insulted many times when I actually called out some of the bullshit I've seen about "hard" choreography. They claim it's their "opinion" but none of them really danced. And they just attacked you because you know their fave's choreo is actually not hard (and I know beacuse I've been dancing to kpop song since 2009 until now).
@@axisboise People saying these are hard have never dancer either, or are really bad if they claim these the hardest. I was laughing the whole video, especially when it said "it is hard for those who can't pop" - bruh then every choreo is hard for a certain type of people.
Seventeen's synchronization is everything. We thought dance moves can ruined by with more members n it's looks unclean but it's not with SVT. Their every moves/spots/position/synchronization always used to look so perfect n so clean.
Well yeah, to execute a dance with a group it would be more difficult to synchronize with others. But they're not synchronizing themselves with each other. No dance group should. They sync themselves with the music. Once you all know how to move along the music, you'll all be able to dance in sync.
Move’s choreography feels almost heavy but weightless and flowy at the same time and even though Im not a dancer, I’m amazed at how Taemin does it so flawlessly. He conveys the right emotions and the right feeling it’s so magical
NCT was honestly insane for debuting with 7th Sense, you had to know from there that they were gonna be some seriously talented dancers and hard choreographies in this group 😩👏🏽🔥
kpop fans tend to say a choreo is "easy" or "simple" when really its just _visually simplistic_ and maybe easy to mimic the basic movements, but that's not what it's about. I honestly can't stand watching the majority of dance covers on youtube because even if they basically have the movements and formations down, it just _never looks right._ Like with Move, there's really not much going on visually to the untrained eye but unless you're a highly trained dancer or maybe some kind of magician, it's never gonna look right. a lot of the "hardest" dances other people talk about might just be kind of tiring or a lot to keep track of and remember for somebody who doesn't dance. they look scarier because there's a lot of movement.
Well I guess you could call my eye "untrained" but I definitely have an eye for detail when it comes to dancing. I'm no dancer but I have a huge appreciation for dancing! First time I saw MOVE I was like, dang, it looks like he's not doing much but this is EVERYTHING! Man I just cringe so much at all those dance covers out there 🤮
SM in general is a beast with choreo but Move is such an intimidating dance. It's so hard to get right and so easy to make yourself look like a worm just wiggling all over the place.
@@cupcake6986 And now Criminal is the super boss after that, I recently did a cover of Move, it's up on my channel and I would appreciate it if you guys check it out!
no I NEED you to talk about Taemin's "Move" for a whole entire video. Everything you said in this video is so true honestly. Some dances look complicated because they are fast, but they can be simple hip hop moves, but the songs like Taemin's Move...... M A S T E R P I E C E
This is the reason why I always question people who say SM are only known for having artists with outstanding vocals and visuals but let's admit that they also have incredible dancers who can execute insane choreos. ✨
Indeed, the thing... is that people only look for fast and complicated choreos full of fast and rude movements, SM is more artistic along with their concepts and voices. Is not the hard of the steps is the art on it and we can super see that in taemin, Shinee, red velvet etc
As a dancer who had competed internationally(not bragging) and who's so used to seeing a lot of technically hard dances, I can say that seventeen, NCT, and Shinee are the ones who appealed for me. -Seventeen's choreographies are well done, they do a lot of quick steps but everyone moves as one (that's great teamwork over there), advantage of seventeen is that all of them can actually dance like a main dancer. Their synchronisation is amazing it's so clean no one is falling behind, hoshi did well on the choreography. It's amusing and entertaining as I noticed that hoshi does lyrical steps with on-beat steps, their dances always compliments well with their songs. -NCT(all units) their choreographers did an absolute amazing job. But one more that fascinates me is that how their dances are almost singing the song. NCT's dances are complicated yet tactfully organised. It's so precise and smooth but rough at the same time, it gives the feels like the lyrics are in the members bodies and it naturally moves inside them. Their dances are also awkward when done by others coz' generally the steps are so chronical, like a beat-killer moves and has twist after twist, yet NCT done them gracefully, this just says that they are great dancers. -Shinee, I love Shinee's dances, they make it look easy but are actually not. Unlike NCT & SVT their dances ofcourse are different from the newer generations but Shinee's dances are just surprisingly nostalgic, because it has the elements of the old school hiphop, old school or the OG dance steps yet so satisfying to watch even til now. Their steps are really awkward, even a pro dancer finds it hard to do same exact like how the members did it because choreography wise, their dances needs the right projection, the right flips and flicks, the right angles(coz' i noticed there are lots of geometric steps) the proper balance and the proper vibe. No one can dance Shinee dances like Shinee.
@@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 personally, not really but their choreos are precise and it matches their songs really well, like red velvet, they focus more on the hand movements and their moves are beautiful and has swifts, and for snsd, well I can say that their choreo on their debut song intnw is difficult because it's old school choreo, it has unusual movements unlike today's common choreos, and the boys' choreo is also quite difficult but the rest are manageable and quite easy, well for me of course, im sure some find their dances difficult.
@@JobelleLagonoy yuuuup! Teen Top, B.A.P, 24k, their dances are cool. Teen Top has a lot of foot work and their dances are pretty exhausting but since I dance mostly hiphop with a lot of footworks or 'house' or 'shuffle', i find it manageable.
Coming from a dancer too, I completely agree with the majority of things you've said in this video. Especially at the end when speaking about Taemin. I have many male friend dancers and they think Taemin dancing is so cool and they find it so hard to master his dancing since Taemin has complete control of what seems like every inch of his body. I can still remember them trying to dance to Move and they practically gave up in the first 5 mins (it was for fun) since they couldn't do it like Taemin ha ha. Anyways, great video!! :)
Honestly lm a dancer too but l find taemin dance little hard bc I have to have control with it if that makes sense and like nct or like bts or alot of other artist l find their dances the easiest but l mean ppl are different but lm just saying yk l hope this made sense
Ex dancer here, completely agree. Taemin's choreographies could very easily look sloppy if you don't have complete control of your body. Subtle and core movements like he's doing are what I found the hardest when I used to dance, he's so good at perfecting even the smallest movements and details. He's beyond impressive, miss moving my body like that sometimes
I’m a dancer with pretty good body coordination, did ballet for 5 years, now in hip hop, but even then, Taemins choreography is insane. For move, I can only do the first chorus as it’s simple steps, so I can focus on coordinating every part of my body.
i learned this dance almost when it came out, i still practice it and record myself and think i’m doing okay and not bad (most of the time i think i look bad even if i nail it) and now i think i may be doing something wrong cause i don’t think the choreo is that hard tbh BUT everyone is different
Vastra B there so many “hardest Kpop dances” videos that don’t show actual hard dances. Just because something’s fast paced doesn’t mean it’s hard. Sometimes the slower things are harder since you have to have more control
As a dancer myself, I agree with NCT U- The 7th Sense. When I first learn the choreography , I was having a pretty hard time trying to remember the whole thing, because there was so many detail, straight out from the intro to the end. I still manage to learn the choreography, but boy when I tell you, it was a pain in the butt:~ I had a feeling that maybe the concept didn’t really suit my style and to be honest, I have no idea what kind of concept it was.
the most wild part about move is the fact that taemin almost does the movements backwards of what you would think. most people move their muscles down for the dance, but he's lifting up. it's wild to even try to replicate his abdominal movements.
I learn so much from people like you. I LOVE Taemin but I am not a dancer -- when folks like you explain it helps us all enrich our experience. He is a god!
It's an urban dance at the same time, not the chill kind of urban. It has hard hits and then smooth. That's why I love watching 7th sense, I tried to learn it.... but in the long run, I realized how HARD it was. I gave up HAHAHAHA
Very NEO indeed. That's why I find their music and dance very cool & unique. They also incorporate very detailed small hand movements to their choreo which I find so cool! For ex how Taeyong was rolling a small imaginary toy firetruck with his hands for their Firetruck performances.
NCT, Ateez, Seulrene, Shinee, TXT, Seventeen, BTS and more are serving us different variety of dances. I seriously love their choreographies and dance executions.
Taemin is practically water his moves are so fluid. Love getting perspective from actual dancers with proper understanding of movement in these choreos! Thank you!
Taemin is in a class all his own, his movements are so fluid and sensual. People always say "so and so is better" nah bitch.. i haven't seen anyone match how boneless this man is.
exactly! he likes to play himself off as an old man with achey bones but when its time for business, he goes off. lol. i really hate when people who obviously ignore or don't listen / watch taemin say that this guy from exo or bts is better, and call taemin 'nugu' like i really HATE that word used that way...
couldn't say it any better. Taemin is just Taemin. (laughed when i read "boneless", it's damn true.) when "Move" came out especially, i couldn't even stop replaying that dance pratice video, woah.
Look up beckdrop and he a gender transition dance timeline on his channel. Look in the description and look for the song. He did a pretty damn well attempt, but it certainly wasn’t perfect. Closest any of us could probably get to being perfect tho
As a dancer, I think that the group Astro has the most difficult choreos because it’s a masterful blend of flowy classical jazz/musical theatre but also really fast pop/hip hop style. There’s always at least one set of double pirouettes in their songs and some have jumps and crazy acrobatics it’s so cool but takes so much time to master.
I may not be a dancer and im an aroha this may sound a bit biased but literally astro is soo underrated esp with their dances in the first part of baby the first step is already hard and fast ( in my perspective ) they have many pirouettes in their dances and i was so in awe when they did baby 2X speed esp with the many jumps in the choreo i love them so much and im so glad that a dancer commends their efforts
Exactly and also the fact that they're 6 member group and no one is put in the back to create that center it's sooo cool!! My bois deserve so much appreciation!! :')
the fact that taemin is in here twice, from the beginning to now, says a lot. he went from "my dance moves are hard to do" to "now my moves are almost impossible!"
Agree, Taemin's Move has been covered by SO MANY IDOLS and dancers but noone ever come close to what Taemin does. When Taemin does it, it's so mesmerising, like I'm hypnotized by the way he moves.
@@mishi.babyarts I mean they did well but if you compare it to how he does it it's not the same obviously because they literally made the song and the dance based on taemin and the way he moves and how his body is. Like his dance style is completely different from the dance styles of twice and they killed it honestly like I give them 100% cuz they did it justice not a lot of people can do that.
omg tysm for including shinee and taemin !! ppl tend to discredit their impact and the insane level of difficulty of their choreographies and its so frustrating to see because they walked so that so many of today's kpop acts could run.
7th sense is more “dark alluring” as a concept. It’s not sensual but there’s something very mysterious and enticing about the isolated video, the bleak filters of colour, the slow and subdued song that doesn’t ever pick up a lot of speed or builds intensely. It draws the viewer in and feels like being trapped in a dream. The dance style would probably be lyrical hip hop, that’s just hard to pull off.
K S I think that’s the point considering the original name for 7th sense is synchronization of your dreams. it’s really mysterious but looks pretty awesome tbh
I can't agree more with you. I love almost all NCT songs, but the 7th sense will always remain to me as their best song/mv/concept forever (Best debut song for a group too). When I saw it for the first time, I was speechless. I couldn't even fangirl, it felt like I was hypnotized. I hope they'll do something new along the lines of this "dark alluring mysterious" concept (as you defined it so well)
@@MrBudderGoggles yes, some of them do lip sync but not very often. The is idols have playbacks which are played at a lower volume and to keep some parts of the song hyped up. For example, see this clip of lisa : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PIdT8Jp0RZc.html at the part she does not sing you could here the play back "fact check" And also this performance of serendipity by jimin : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nS2x6BKMGWI.html He is singing live but there's also a playback. The choreo is demanding and you could hear him breathing and the chorus is very hard to sing and dance at the same time so he only dances and let's the playback do its work. And right after the chorus, he is singing again. No hate just trying to explain it to you. I know this is longer than it should be but I can't stop myself from typing lol.
I haven’t seen much of Taemin’s solo work but wow, I definitely agree on that dance being one of the hardest I’ve ever seen. At first, as a non-dancer, I used to just think that fast = hard, which for some it can be, but I grew to realise it’s more about precision and control. It’s really hard not to look silly when you’re dancing so slowly and sensually, even if it looks easy to do. Well, easy to learn maybe, but not easy to actually pull off. I could try, but without experience I would never master the way Taemin or his dancers move.
And his hard choreographies like Criminal, famous, drip drop and Advice is really hard. He is a good dancer so the choreographers also feel challenging to make the best choreos for him.
tbh I find that astro, nct and seventeen have the most difficult choreos because of the certain weightlessness/elegance or preciseness needed to execute the moves well
Things like this give you a whole new sense of respect for idols, even the worst dancers have more talent in their little finger than I do in my entire body
Hoddy actually, no. To be able to achieve taemin’s level of fluidity and musicality takes a whole lot of hard work and natural-born talent. Sure you can claim to be able to pull the moves, but to claim to be able to express yourself exactly how taemin does it is another story.
I expected nothing less from Kuharu Sugawara, the beautifully talented choreographer behind Move. It is crazy how i was familiar with both Kuharu and taemin separately before seeing them clashing together on different projects. Wonderful.
Actually, debut songs often have some of the hardest choreos. I believe charissahoo (youtube) explained this: since this is their first impression they really want to show everything they're capable of.
@@c.r2135 Dancing good is a must for any idol, and companies (with high standards) do indeed make their idols train on hard songs, however there are very few ones that debut with such a complex song besides from companies like SM (and exceptions like infinite, SEVENTEEN). Don't delude yourself, if everyone was able of dancing flawlessly to songs like NCT's right from the start, kpop wouldn't be the same lmao. Most kpop dancers are average, usually kpop groups have 1 to 3 great dancers (depends on the number of members) and the rest are good, average or low-key bad (but in comparison to non dancers, they're of course another level). SM has always set the bar high for dancing, singing and visuals, they don't follow kpop standards, they are WAYY above them. And that's why SM has some of the best vocalists and the best dancers too (literally NCT, SHINee have no bad dancer. NCT has about 4 main dancers and like 10 members or more that qualify for lead position).
Okay, it’s cool that the creator of this video can dance but for people that suck at dancing. Well... every single dance seems hard to us. Just for a few exceptions to be honest. :) When I typed a few, I am serious. XD
As a dancer too, Taemin's choreographies are also the most difficult for me There's something about that man's natural groove that I can't replicate or remotely resemble, let alone the insane amount of body control required for each and every choreo of his They might not be the most demanding but they are incredibly hard to learn and especially to master them and achieve not looking like a dying fish while doing it :')
To an outsider (unfortunately, I don't dance), it seems that Taemin's body dictates where he goes and moves on its own... Like... he isn't even trying.
yes to shinee's lucifer. that was the first choreography that really made my jaw drop to the floor. and i might be wrong but i think it also catapulted the trend of uploading dance practices. the synchronization, the speed and uniqueness of lucifer makes it iconic. also happy you added infinite because i totally forgot about them and when i heard the chaser again it gave me chills. a group right now that impresses me with their choreography is literally any NCT dance but for me cherry bomb remains my favorite
When I first watched Taemin Move (I was a beginner dancer at that time so I didn’t really know much about dance) I was like oh this looks really easy and probably is really easy I’ll learn and perfect it in a week. Onto my second year of being a dancer I now call this choreography the “cursed choreography” because never once in my entire dance experience I was able to get even close to what Taemin is doing it like mad respect to him and those backup dancers damn
i believe when Taemin-Move out, it's my second year (or maybe one year and half) being a dancer. At first glance i know it's NOT easy at all cause you can't copy or cover that body control skill from Taemin. I always try to cover it but in the end i just made a new choreography cuz what Taemin does is super difficult for me. Ever since then, when Move played i just playing along and dance with my choreography instead.
I think that somebody who trained as a technical dancer and did other types of dance like hip hop would have the least difficult time doing this because in dance like classical ballet almost every movement is supposed to look effortless and elegant.
@@bridgetkane2856 yes I agree, but this is elegant hip-hop, which is so hard, because ballet is all about looking elegant and hip-hop is all about looking confident and strong and the easiest way to look strong is to look big and loud, so they have to look strong without looking big and loud which is why I find this so impressive
That's the age when a man's body is at it's physical peak so they say. Strong but flexible, recovers fastest etc. However, concentration really needs concentrating on. And outside influences can help that. Leader, teacher etc. It'sa kind ofalchemy when the 2 meet in agreement. E voila - NCT dream.
@@ajio1057 in terms of physicality, I agree, they definitely had a lot of advantages on their side. but as a dancer myself I found it extremely hard to garner the mental fortitude to learn choreography at the rate that they did when I was at their age let alone master the sheer variety of styles they do in a single phrase. I think they are truly a caliber of their own.
My hearteu honestly it looks easy but the movements are very precise and you have to have tons of control of your body and be on beat. I never attempted move because I knew how hard it was 😂😂
@@sofigodoy4811 ikr i hate how new fans think only girls generation and big bang were queens/ kings, when every old fan remembers how iconic infinite was
@@sofigodoy4811 I think it's because today having really insync and "sharp" choreos is the norm but people don't realize it was groups like infinite that really pushed that style
@@washingmachine4993 well..tbh, I think even new kpop fans don't consider Big bang or girls generation as kings/queens. All they see these days are BTS, Blackpink.. (no offense, that's just what i've heard a lot). Like especially Big bang are literally forgotten by new fans. But since i'm a old kpop fan I do remember all those bands, including infinite. They really are true legends!♡
This just may be biased but I always feel super impressed and refreshed when watching SM dance practices because it always feels very catered to the dancer and their style while retaining the concept of the group. For example, NCT Dream has always been given very involved choreography meaning floor work, innovative transitions like in We Young, or very outlandish moves not commonly seen like high kicks. It is because they are meant to be the "youth" of the company and the future, so they push them to be a sort of team that is always interconnected and fast-paced with energy. It is the same for Taemin, it is like the choreography was made for him because he has a very smooth and delicate body that exudes sensualization. It is also taken to account he is a solo vocalist so the simple moves matched with his dancing performance are the perfect combination. And this applies to most SM artists, especially when you can see the transition of their music and dance careers. I am not the most credible dancer but from observations and learning dance what I see most in SM dancers are control, stamina, and the ability to experiment which is what makes them so beautiful, engaging, and powerful.
Idk but i feel like Move was choreographed by Taemin 😂 and it gives me chills everytime I watch the dance practice cuz the choreography gives the song so much more feels to it, as if the song depicts his own obsession about the girl that he imitates her moves and elegance. Gosh it's just all-rounded art cattering for you on a silver platter.
@@honganh1750 it was choreographed by Taemin and Koharu (he filmed duo version of the choreo with her) and as i remember with another korean choreographer who often works with SM
Tbh, I think the dance is awkward. It has a lot of kinda strange moves, but because the 5 of them are so talented it works. The idea was to do something kinda weird and foreign (which is why it is the 7th sense, even beyond the 6th sense) and they totally did that. I am always so impressed by watching them.
Taylor Goff yeah the moves are kinda strange and different from what we usually see thats why it only works if you really know how to, it works for them
the funniest thing to me after seeing this is that there are still people who rank SM third in dance out of the big3 while almost half of the video has sm artists on it... I am not that much into sm but it is sad to see their artists underappreciated. thanks for the vid❤
I see a lot of people giving congrats to Taemin backup dancers, which is completely right!! But I find it cool to analise how their dance is different, the backup dancers are very feminine, whereas Taemin can mix masculinity with femininity, that’s SO HARD to do, and he does it perfectly, in a graceful, sensual, beautiful way A king
Even his style is just so androgynous sometimes too and he pulls it off so well. His skills are unmatched for me. He’s a king. My ult. Has been ever since I first heard and saw Replay as a kid!
Girlll!!! Yes NCTU's 7th Sense killed me when I tried to learn it! It's fxcking difficult! It's in one of my top hardest kpop dances RV's Be natural is one of my favorite to learn! It felt sensual but strong not sleazy! Shinee's lucifer I tried learning for fun... but fxck i spent a lot of hours to perfect it But I really like to appreciate thise video! Because until you actually try learning to dance the song, not just only to memorize the steps but actually mastering the feeling and theme of the song, you wouldn't actually know how hard some of the dances are! Dancing isn't just about memorizing steps or executing over-the-top movement pattern. It's an expression, you know you're successful when you feel something from within you coming outside
@@fultimekfangurl3979 Something that I emphasize to my friends who sometimes see me dance and wants to learn the steps that if you want to dance successfully you need to understand the musicality and feeling of the song and the concept of the choreo~ ^^
