I would love to see a full adjustable bench round up! These two are out of my budget, so it would be really helpful to see a current comparison of some lower priced offerings.
i'd love to see a new adjustable bench roundup, and if you could add a category for benches that allow for nordic curls that would be extremely helpful
The rep has a little better design. The rouge has better quality. Both are outrageously priced. The winner is titan with a super cheap price and does everything you need it to
@@bmstylee Yea, I think the least you can spend with the cheapest stuff and a decent barbell is like $2000 for a home gym. Mainly because of the cost of weights.
I know everyone wants to keep comparing these two because they’re new. But I feel like the black wing would be better compared to the rogue adjustable 3.0. Since they are in the same price point and, I think, would make more sense for most of us. Especially since the manta ray seems to be out of most people’s budgets
I agree with you. The rogue bench is an insane amount of money, and you have to buy the foot rollers. I own the rogue 3.0 bench, even that was up there in price. I love it though.
People always say that they are willing to pay more if it's made in America (if it's good quality) but when it comes down to it they usually aren't. 🤣🤷♂
I feel a bit like a dummy asking, but how do you mount the manta ray decline with your legs so high up in the air. With dumbbells as well? Seems like a work out unto itself.
I have owned the BlackWing since it was released. I pre-ordered it in March. I absolutely love it! It does everything I could ever want a bench to do. I do agree, it is a heavy bench. At 54 years old I can still move this around no problem. If you are in the market for a top tier bench then look no further than the BlackWing. You will NOT be disappointed. Thanks for the great review Coop! V/R Shane
I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?
@@pottsy1907 I find the weight of the bench manageable. I am 54 and I don’t have any issues moving it around. This is a heavy bench when compared to many others, but its not too heavy. This is an incredibly stable bench. You will love doing decline work on this thing. You will need the leg attachment if you plan to do anything beyond 8 degrees or so. Good luck.
@@marcholland1554 Nope no movement at all. The seat only has a little bit of play when the knob is loose. I actually rarely tighten it down. I have used the bench 5 days a week since the bench was released. I think I have had it a bit over a year now.
I chose the Rogue Manta over the REP purely because I saw in another comparative review the foot catch was way beefier on the Rogue than the REP and this is a feature that was important to me.
I’m looking at the manta ray for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?
REP confirmed on Instagram that they are going to offer it in a clearcoat colorway and not to mention that 14in wide pad option. I love Rogue, but gonna be hard to justify this one.
Dude their clear coat is to die for. I have both AB-5000ZG and FB-5000 in matching clear coat. Finest pieces of metal machinery I’ve ever owned and they look freaking amazing. I have been waiting for clearcoat Blackwing since the winter!
Coop, how could you give the pad to rogue when you said in the manta review that you didn't like that it only had the smaller pad and you can get the larger pad on the rep?
Cancelled my order of the Rep AB5200 2.0 when I saw your Blackwing review. Got a Blackwing as my first bench and I like it a lot. I’ve learned I prob won’t need a zero gap feature if I ever need to buy another bench but I’m really happy with my purchase.
I want the Manta Ray. But I'll be damn if I spend that much for a boring black bench. Please add sone freaking to the benches Rogue. Y'all already know
The Rogue's teeth for adjusting the bench really shows it is a higher quality product and attention to detail over the REP with just two sets of teeth and an empty gap in between. I really like the zero gap feature on the REP even though I would probably never use it. But I don't think I could justify it to myself spending an extra $400 for the Rogue.
I love the idea of made in the USA, but 1,200 USD is outrageous for a bench. In this case price speaks louder when the differences are minor, so I'll probably end up upgrading to the blackwing when the times comes, unless something better... cue the pun... rolls around.
I'm pretty picky when it comes to new purchases. When you were comparing the upholstery of these benches, the Rep bench already had a tear in its upholstery on the side corner of it. This may not bother a lot of people, but tears in the upholstery just keep growing. Maybe As'Sam"bly Sam did it with his box cutters when he opened it.
this rouge bench is totally commercial i bet most of the benches we see in commercial gyms probably cost the same or more than the manta ray but are far worse in comparison over 1k for a bench for a home gym is just silly that money can be much better spent on other things
If go with the REP.... Feature AG's build similar . For a home gym it makes sense night to spend too much.. You're a casual lifter... Vaguely serious profit workout at the gym..a specialized gym e.g. a powerlifting Gunn.
I agree, although I love Rogue and to take nothing away from them. If someone is on a budget, which most are, Rep is the better value. That being said, I would add one more thing that Rep has over Rogue, if I am not mistaken, that Rep offers a 14" wide pad on their incline bench and for me having a wide back is helpful. Thank you for the review.
$1,000 for a bench is absurd. Does it come with a brick of gold? I understand it’s made in the U.S., but I get the feeling companies market that it’s made in the U.S. just to place some ridiculous price tag on the item.
@garagegymreviews do you have an affiliate link for Rogue Europe? People (myself included) have been watching your videos for all their inspiration and feel it's only right to use an affiliate link if you've got one for the European version of the store. This channel has been a huge difference for us home gym lovers, both in terms of entertainment and information!
I just picked up a Body Solid commercial grade adjustable for 350 bucks. All welded construction, commercial warranty. It is nicely finished with a heavy duty gray paint, compact, and built like a tank. Worth a look.
I own the rogue adjustable bench 3.0, and it’s a great bench. I’m looking into the rep black wing, only because when doing incline bench inside my rep pr5000 it’s kinda a hassle to get the rogue bench into place. The vertical beam which the back pad rests on in the flat position gets in the way, because I have the rear base stabilizer. The black wing does not have that vertical beam.
Coop, you're talking about how good the vinyl is on the benches and as you're pushing down on the Rep bench pad I can see the pad is torn or cut. What's with that?
I have a RepAB 5200, these benches are so long the zero gap makes no difference to me. I set up for the bench press on the back pad and I’m 5’10”. I would definitely buy Rep again, best bang for your buck.
For vertical stability, it'd be nice to get a wall-mount "seat belt" strap that could easy just clip around it to hold it up. Just some nylon strapping and a plastic press clip would do it.
The $400 "value" you save on the REP will get burned up within a year of adjusting the seat position with their god-blessed pop-pin, ten times every week (5x a week x2: setup from flat/return to flat)
Great video and always enjoy watching these comparisons. I did notice at time stamp 10:54/10:55, Coop talks about quality (made in the USA versus imported) . He labels the Blackwing as Rogue and Manta Ray as REP. I did a double take and thought "Rogue offers the Manta Ray in blue?". I went with the Manta Ray due to shipping availability to Hawaii. Again love the videos and enjoy them watching them when I am away from my home gym.
Yup I caught it too. Looked in the comments to see if I'm not mistaken another instance he pointed over his shoulder at the wrong one too. 🤷♂️ we all make mistakes lol.
Rogue is lighter in the front because of all the plastic on it. If you can’t handle the knurling and additional 10lbs in the front on REP, lift some weights and get stronger. After all, it’s a home gym. 🤦♂️
I have no doubt it's the better, nicer bench. Whether or not it's worth the price premium is a personal choice. One thing I do like about the China manufactured bench is the ability to decline without the need for the foot catch. That would come in handy for certain exercises. I guess you could prop up one end of the Manta Ray using a bumper plate etc. I have Rogue's AB-3 and can't really imagine upgrading considering what I paid for that bench. I'm sure Rogue's foot catch is also much nicer in comparison to what is currently being offered by the Chinese manufacturers.
It's absolutely nuts that the best home gym youtube channel has only 445k subscribers. Beautiful video even though I can't even afford either bench. Home gym growth isn't even close to reaching it's pinnacle, there's so much room for growth if people cared more about their personal fitness and health.
I think people care more about fitness now than ever before. But most people don't have the room or money for a home gym. It's hard to justify a home gym when Planet Fitness is $10 a month. As far as home gym growth, it's gotten soooooooo bougie!!!!! So many small companies popping up, offering stainless steel knurled specialty items. I can buy stainless knurled grips for my landmine attachment handles. It's getting pretty ridiculous.
I'm 6'6 and I'm the runt of the litter. You announced the REP Blackwing being almost 5ft in length and there was the winner there. Sorry, Rogue. Get longer
i had to stop video and comment: I NEED TO BEAR-HUG my bench to move it in my tiny homegym. the weight is 36kg and looking for something around 25kg in europe markets
I bought a set of powerblocks and just ordered the Rep Blackwing as my first ever bench, let's see how sturdy that is with my 700lbs ass on it lol, need some fat folk reviews out here, to see real sturdiness of stuff, cause they don't make any gym equipment for truly fat folks
Coop great comparison. I’m coming from the AB-3 and the gap is something I’m looking to move from. Would love to see you compare these benches with Irwin Fitness and Stray dog Strength. Both benches come at the same price point but I’m stuck in my decision. Thanks again for the great work!
I preordered the blackwing in blue and have had it for a couple months now. It’s awesome. I can’t even imagine a bench being better than this one no matter how much you spend. It’s better than any bench I’ve used at a commercial gym.
I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?
@@pottsy1907 It mostly comes down to how much space you have. It is a little heavy but if you have a decent amount of room it’s not a big deal. I was using it in a 10’ x 12’ room and it was a little awkward moving it around but now I have it in my garage and it’s not an issue at all. The entire bench is extremely stable at any angle both incline and decline.
I feel a bit like a dummy asking, but how do you mount the manta ray decline with your legs so high up in the air. With dumbbells as well? Seems like a work out unto itself.
Looks like a few of us caught then incorrectly placed flag on the benches when you talked about country of origin. Other than that great comparison. Would like to see some Irwin fitness reviews
Perfect example of equal products between REP and Rogue but Rogue has an extremely higher price. It's like this going down through 97% of each ones inventory!!!!!!
Really glad I watched this. I was ready to buy the Blackwing, but decided to go with made in America. Can't bitch about all of our jobs going overseas if you're not willing to pay the higher price for American labor. Let's face it, it costs more to live in America than in China. Since I'm buying this to pair with a Speede Challenger, I'm not quibbling over a few hundred dollars difference.
I think knurled grip on the handles for these is not appropriate. When you reach down and pick them up, they rotate around the pivot point (wheels). So by design, the handle should be rotating in your hand. Meanwhile, it’s not like they weigh enough to need the knurling in the first place. Anyways…just my thoughts on that
