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The African Diasporan Returnees Are Separating Themselves From Local Africans| Ep. 49 

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Welcome to the Repat podcast about diaspora privilege! We explore how being part of a diaspora can create privilege and power imbalances. Our guests share their experiences and we discuss strategies to acknowledge and address this issue. Join us to learn more about this important topic!
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@EmbraceSuccess365
@EmbraceSuccess365 Год назад
Diasporans do not cause the prices to go up. It is the Ugandan owners of the properties that are raising the prices. Diasporans are not demanding to pay a higher price than Ugandans. Ugandans see that they can get more, so they charge more. So put the blame where it belongs, Ugandans are making it harder for other Ugandans due to their own price gouging.
@marysimpsons7545
@marysimpsons7545 Год назад
Both the diaspora & the Ugandan owners of properties are responsible. If there's no crazy demand, no crazy willingness to pay higher or highest the Ugandan property owners will sell at low prices as usual. So l think the diaspora shouldn't be buying things with skyrocketing prices. They should pay as the Ugandans. Or the Ugandan government could establish some limits. Uganda & Africa as a whole shouldn't become New York or western nations with crazy prices.
@mansamusa9465
@mansamusa9465 Год назад
@@marysimpsons7545 Do you have the same sentiments to the Asians and Europeans in Uganda?
@sadeimoresojourns
@sadeimoresojourns Год назад
💯
@daphneytennard3267
@daphneytennard3267 Год назад
Greedy people
@nightingaleofficial3604
@nightingaleofficial3604 Год назад
Is that your position to the gentrification going on in historically black communities ? I bet it isn’t.
@bobbyschannel349
@bobbyschannel349 Год назад
but don't Africans do the same thing in the us? because they sometimes isolate themselves from black Americans. Its normal for people to have a stronger connection to their fraternal ethnic group.
@modrikisadopted6337
@modrikisadopted6337 Год назад
How do Africans segregate themselves? Do they invite Africans and Africans refuse to socialize. This is not true. African keep to themselves often bcos they are safer that way. How safe is the African with the BA when economics is involved? All over the World for safety African keep away and to themselves not be cos they want to segregate. There are communities in the UD like little Haiti Chinatowns Korean and various Asian communities, there are the Jewiah community or neighborhoods, name African towns or villages set aside by or for African immigrants in the US or anywhere in Europe and America. Are there even housing estates occupied solely by African immigrants i. e built and set up by and for themselves? Who knows I may be wrong kindly correct me. We have enough issues than to so seeds for future conflicts. Disaporans are welcomed as brothers and sisters and family and citizens not as separate gated tribes. They can form communities but not closed in. Let us not even go into the open hate and sabotage by the diasporans against African in streets and workplace etc by Diasporans for real. Yeah its there. Let's be sober about this. There are countless outstanding and excellent people amongst them diaaporans, never the less we need to prepare for harmony, joy and patriotism among the people. Come loving Africa and her people no matter how dirty, illiterate uneducated and backward you see us. If you do not prime up your love barometer for the people , fact is other races are lined up to come into Africa. Africa traditionally turns no one away bcos they are closest to God in nature bcos of high spirituality. I mean well by means. Tnx
@marysimpsons7545
@marysimpsons7545 Год назад
It's not true. Africans in the United States do not separate themselves from African Americans. However, it could happen unintentionally or because of cheap accomodations or something else. Not because they create an elite community. Is there any elite community of Africans in the United States? I would like to know. Elitism, classicism, people respecting their personal spaces in public, individualism etc. are all American, European & western cultures. These things & many others do not exist in African societies. If African Americans or any other African diaspora go to Africa & create elite communities, individualism, classicism etc. they will have problems in Africa. They must destroy the American, European & western cultures & mentalities in them, visit Africa & learn how the people live, know more about the societies etc. before deciding to return to live in Africa. Do you know why the former Liberian president Samuel Doe plotted a coup against the African American president of Liberia? It's because when the freed slaves were taken to Liberia they started discriminating & looking down on the Liberian natives. The African Americans created elites communities only for African Americans, classicism, individualism etc. And they governed Liberia exclusively & refused Liberian natives from taking part in government & economy. This continued for a very long time & the native Liberians were extremely unhappy until a native Liberian Captain in the military called Samuel Doe plotted a coup, k***** the president, some of his family, members of his government etc. So African Americans must forget about the bad American cultures, go to Africa, learn about the societies before returning to live. If not they won't be able to live in Africa or they won't be happy in Africa. I can assure you that 100%. I know what l'm talking about. There's nothing like individualism, nothing like l'm standing here why are you standing so close to me? Stand a few metres away from me etc. because this is my personal space. In Africa anybody talks to anybody anywhere & can ask any questions personal or not even if they have never seen you before. People greet each other whether they know you or not & it doesn't matter if they are seeing you for the very first time. & If you don't respond, frown or ignore the greetings, you will be considered as a bad person, a badly educated person etc. & People could even hate you because of that. Good manners, respect, polite etc. are just a few of the characters of Africans. Men are always head of the family irrespective of whether the man & his wife are working or not or only the wife works. The woman must cook & serve food for the husband & family & husband never serves food for the wife & family with the wife sitting & watching as it could happen in America & other western countries. The wife respects the husband & would never send him to bring water, food etc. for her when she's not sick, not busy or if she can do it by herself but just decides to send the husband. It's not possible. It doesn't happen.
@Operator-Six
@Operator-Six Год назад
They have to make blk Americans the face of Dysfunctional situations …. Pan Africanist can’t survive without a blk boogie man
@bobbyschannel349
@bobbyschannel349 Год назад
@@marysimpsons7545 no that's not true. The americo-liberians were not toppled because of (the so-called country people) They were toppled by the US government and there is proof that the CIA was involved in that coup d'etat, with that being said even if they didn't start an elite class. They were still different. And by the way, they did mixed in, most americo-liberians have indigenous bloodline because they married a lot of those people. You don't know the history of Liberia that very well... Dude I remember years ago there was this Nigerian function here in the San Fernando valley of a lot of Nigerians and they were very isolated, I waved and say hello, they say nothing. Coincidentally years ago I remember passing by in all Indian function. And they were so nice they were inviting, they wanted me to come in because I was curious about it, I declined, but they did offer me food. I got none of that from the Nigerians. Again, people have a need to be around other groups of people that they are ethnically close to, Africans are tribal and so are black Americans. Yoruba and Igbo only get along because they have to. It Doesn't mean that they get along, in fact, I think that they only tolerate each other. Of course black Americans are going to have their own community, and they going to have an elite class, something that's probably going to happen naturally.
@charlesxavier3489
@charlesxavier3489 Год назад
Who wouldn't separate themselves from black Americans?
@jpcoleman3408
@jpcoleman3408 Год назад
Brotha in the red shirt is so well spoken and organized in his thought process. Listening to him is worth every second of my time.
@JavaughnJPorter
@JavaughnJPorter Год назад
AGREE
@mastergabs
@mastergabs Год назад
Thank you for the compliment! I feel privileged for the opportunity to speak on this platform.
@paidsurveys6561
@paidsurveys6561 Год назад
@@mastergabs what kind of opportunities are there for a brother ???
@cc-92
@cc-92 Год назад
Yep
@real8551
@real8551 Год назад
Very good conversation by everyone but that Tina you actually made me think on a different level.Master Grabs is one smooth intellectual. Love this dialogue as there was a good representation of both sides.
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
This Podcast is killing the game. I've started a successful business in Uganda but only saw it flourish as I stepped back and let my locally born employee take the lead and be the face of the business, which I have no problem with at all because I had planned to eventually hand the business over anyway. Within the city I live in it has been a struggle to find electronics stores, appliance dealers, carpenters, electricians, or any skilled labor that is honest in business dealings or has any sense of integrity to provide the services that they claim to be able to. After DESPERATELY wanting to spend my money locally, I've found myself going to my Indian friend for televisions, phones, and home appliances. Even flaunting your purchases made somewhere else doesn't change the behavior of the local shop owners. I've grown tired of explaining that coming to your shop is not to bring you a GIFT, it is a business exchange. I still fail to understand how they become annoyed when they don't have what you want in their shop and almost insist that you buy some alternative junk and "give" them money. Great Podcast, keep doing the good work.
@gevs4487
@gevs4487 Год назад
As a Ugandan, I have no beef with anyone doing business with indians, Chinese or European. I was never raised a separatist. I grew up at Mengo in the capital of the kingdom with so many indians they owned all the shops there. We shared the same public swimming pool and alot of their kids were my friends.
@blkqueen6201
@blkqueen6201 Год назад
​@@gevs4487 Just like the Africans in their country right.
@diasporaconnecttanzania3521
Absolutely the same as in Tanzania
@dugebuwembo
@dugebuwembo Год назад
My cousin has a decent electronics business in Kampala, could have hooked you up.
@marencruickshank
@marencruickshank Год назад
🤔
@truetwinflameandspirituala8211
GOOD VALUES are NOT a Privilege. You're either a trustworthy person or You're Not and Everyone knows Right from Wrong!
@lhoward9597
@lhoward9597 Год назад
I could be wrong, but those from the diaspora understand the importance of trust a little more than our African family.
@JRTexx
@JRTexx Год назад
In a nutshell
@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv
@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv Год назад
If that’s the case. Why aren’t they using their trust in the USA?
@IAmSolomon
@IAmSolomon Год назад
@@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv probably because of the historical racism prevalent in American society. Gotta remember, Black American's have only recently been granted rights as actual citizens 50-60 years ago, prior to that they were relegated to the lowest caste of society and treated like 2nd class citizens. It's difficult to build in a society that doesn't want you, that's why it's so common for Black Americans to have an idealized view of Africa because they see a society where everyone is black so they want to contribute to that instead of the US
@user-gg4vh9jx8j
@user-gg4vh9jx8j Год назад
@@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv same reason why Africans come to the US and look down on black Americans but couldn’t seem to be successful back home in Africa.
@Th3lite
@Th3lite Год назад
That's interesting.
@f6876
@f6876 Год назад
The Lebanese, Asians and whites work together in their respective communities in Africa. They help each other so that together they grow.
@pkp6791
@pkp6791 Год назад
Im stuck and struck at the idea of descendants of African slaves being viewed as privileged. That really sickens me.
@jayajaya788
@jayajaya788 Год назад
Exactly...this is why when Africans come to America they're not very welcoming...very nasty towards us and they teach this in Africa to stay away from us when they come to America...wow...the division
@ave383
@ave383 Год назад
Wait until you find out they don't come from Africa but are indigenous to America and Europe and were to sent to Africa ln slave markets
@tersooawen4249
@tersooawen4249 Год назад
They do not know better! The history of slavery is not properly and deeply taught!! We do not tell of story!! Look at the Jews, they literally sing the HOLOCAUST into the face of everyone!!
@alexandriamoor9170
@alexandriamoor9170 Год назад
Yeah , seems like the big green eyed devil to me. Shame
@TRUEkcctv1384
@TRUEkcctv1384 Год назад
If we actually knew history, american negroe would know they aren't African in the first place, but some continue without any actual geological documents to prove this. One doesn't even know there is no proof that transatlantic slave trade happened with African slaves. As archives in America, Spain and Europe have absolutely no records in national archives.
@estifanosberta-samuel2570
@estifanosberta-samuel2570 Год назад
This is a very real conversation that I think Africans the entire continent over should include themselves in. Lord knows I faced heavy backlash; corruption and exploitation moving to South Africa and operating in my industry more than 20 years ago. I was amazed at how people treated me, knowing that I am a fellow African versus how they treated me when they knew that I actually came from the West after being partly educated there. I got hatred from people from my own country that presented themselves to be friends but the truth is that they were envious and competitive simply because I was educated in the West and felt I had a degree of privilege.
@kelvinwashiko17
@kelvinwashiko17 Год назад
I enjoy Tina's presence because she doesn't tolerate nonsense and speaks her mind, even if she holds back at times.
@edenhaile6356
@edenhaile6356 11 месяцев назад
I'm sorry I hope no one get offended, but the only thing she said it's that people from the diaspora is privileged, economically speaking, I think it is obvious, but that doesn't allow no one to take advantage as they do .
@joshlikings7437
@joshlikings7437 Год назад
Oshay is right! Whoever delivers should earn the job, doesn't matter local or diaspora.
@Ismail-cf6xu
@Ismail-cf6xu Год назад
So many gems dropped here. The one liners, witty exchanges, top notch. Salute to this podcast. Informative and entertaining. Blk American from NYC representing. Much love to African diaspora globally.
@francotheafrican7550
@francotheafrican7550 Год назад
Good job guys! I’m a Sierra Leonean based in Los Angeles and I’m totally loving your show, Ohsay. These are long awaited conversations to be had
@DoodOverThere
@DoodOverThere Год назад
Much love from a Sierra Leonean from London!
@thecounselofnigritia
@thecounselofnigritia Год назад
If Africans can come into America and seperate, the Diaspora should do the same in Africa. As these new communities build up the local Africans can always be apart. We need unity not uniformity. We are the most diverse group on the earth, that want never change
@lovettesmith8196
@lovettesmith8196 Год назад
If this is the type of mindset you have , sorry. You will have a long way to go. Because there is a country in Africa where black Americans were dropped in the 1800s by a shop , and guess what , they took over the government by getting in governmental positions in that country, mild treated the indigenous for years. They robbed them, used them and abused their children and didn't develop that country. The natives got them from power.. So all other African born citizens are aware . And that will NOT ever be allow to happen again. History of such is not forgotten. Working together for development that will benefit everyone , is the best.
@thecounselofnigritia
@thecounselofnigritia Год назад
@@lovettesmith8196 Liberia was a experiment backed by the American Government but I do not see that in the communities the Diaspora is operating themselves. Speak on the Africans who come to the Americas and separate
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
the local africans dont need no black americans . At the end of the day black americans are the one who need locals in order to move on
@thecounselofnigritia
@thecounselofnigritia Год назад
@@kennykross3306 On truth we need eachother. Address what I said, with Africans having there own communities in America
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
@@thecounselofnigritia Africans have their communities as they aren't accepted by black Americans therefore they need to distance themselves. Secondly the word Africans is bogus as u have 54 countries who are very different from each other so therefore none of them even live in the same communities anyway.
@Ashia49
@Ashia49 Год назад
It is not privilege. It is about morals, values, and personal ethics. If you know you don’t want it done to you, then you know better.
@xena6894
@xena6894 11 месяцев назад
I think you're kidding. Morals, values ethics are not really fine qualities associated with AAs brothers and sisters,judging by the unfortunate stereotypes spread around the world. Also, Africans usually value families, hierarchy ( in families) , fathers, and grandparents are a central part within the nucleus family. An aspect AAs aren't familiar with, or known for , generally.
@Ashia49
@Ashia49 11 месяцев назад
@@xena6894 many people think they know what we are and are mot familiar with as American Indians and or ADOS but they are not. We will not discuss the African continent stereo types. Your ignorance is showing.
@Ashia49
@Ashia49 11 месяцев назад
Your are deflecting from the real issue.
@xena6894
@xena6894 11 месяцев назад
@Ashia49 I think you may have comprehension issues. Stereotypes go both ways. Africans living in the USA have long reported being mistreated by AAs , due to ....stereotypes these AAs may have towards Africans. You don't need to discuss them, we both know them. But you and AAs aren't familiar with Stereotypes Africans hold against your people. Was doing you a favor and letting you know what you weren't aware of. But you chose the infantile" your ignorance is showing " 😀 That being said, I wouldn't mind at all AAs staying together in a community, in those countries that have been calling for the " year of return " . Why not? The're China Towns, Little Jamaica, Little Senegal, Somali boroughs throughout western Europe or North America. So why not AAs can't stay together , where it's easier to communicate between them ,share their culture, especially when it's so different from the locals.
@Ashia49
@Ashia49 11 месяцев назад
@@xena6894 you are funny😂😂😂
@itscyberqueen13
@itscyberqueen13 Год назад
I thank you guys soooo much for getting together just to discuss how to bring our ppl together to make a better tomorrow. THIS is the important message because if we don't help ourselves as blk ppl NO ONE ELSE WILL.
@torrellex7634
@torrellex7634 Год назад
It's funny how she was quick to not allow excuses against the idea of having privilege when it came to someone else. But as soon as it came to him pointing out a Ugandan's privilege then it suddenly wasn't comparing apps to apples. And was different and not truly privilege. We all have our unique type of privilege.
@MichaelB_256.
@MichaelB_256. Год назад
Thanks for these frank conversations. As a diaspora person who does business in Ug, I fully agree! It's the value system that leads to, as you called it "the short end of the stick" Keep up the good work Kenganda.
@kittykatz4001
@kittykatz4001 Год назад
When I was enrolled at Howard U in the 1990s, the African undergrad students kept their distance, had their own parties etc.
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
Podcast was so good I had to watch it again. Tina effectively said that diasporans cannot expect honesty and integrity in business just because that is what we are used to.. 😂..I'm going to move around with my laptop and watch this with my Ugandan friends in town . Thanks to KENGANDA for opening the conversation.
@truetwinflameandspirituala8211
Essentially. Completely ignorant to defend dishonest, lack of integrity behavior. Black ppl are too far at the bottom to not have the tightest values system, ESPECIALLY amongst each other.
@twanacisse3950
@twanacisse3950 Год назад
Wow the dude in the red was killing it. It’s so true. In the West we do have corruption but it’s on a higher level. Everyday common small business core practices are in fact basic, daily and taken for granted. It’s natural to want to navigate towards folks who have your same values, practice, services, and visions. This same issues exist from what I heard a lot in Ghana, some in Gambia, and in Kenya, Senegal, Ivory Coast , Zambia, Nigeria, Ethiopia and Rwanda. Black Americans an expats, blacks from Europe and Jamaica must work together!!!!!!
@sarahnamazzi8855
@sarahnamazzi8855 Год назад
Very true. Diaspora must separate themselves from locals in business. U can't deal with untrustworthy pipo.
@lemungagenu5103
@lemungagenu5103 Год назад
That's everything you grasped from this entire session? Ha ha ha
@sarantoure7233
@sarantoure7233 Год назад
I agree.
@adamweisshaup
@adamweisshaup Год назад
Exactly, since when did it become OK to not stand by your word because 'I'm privileged?' lol
@sonofsoweto
@sonofsoweto Год назад
They should leave if they can't find means and ways to help people out of their suffering. It's sad to see the so called diaspora want to replicate their negative experiences on our lands, they should just leave, but we will never ask them to leave but they are us.
@sophiemclarke6556
@sophiemclarke6556 Год назад
You hear this all over the developing world. This is Uganda, this is India this Jamaica, this is Ghana, this is Nigeria. If Africa is going to develop quickly for the sake of the youth you must do business correctly and on time.
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
afrika is a continent not a country. plenty of people come here and do business all the time and cry baby black americans who dont own any significant business complain all the time
@sophiemclarke6556
@sophiemclarke6556 Год назад
@@kennykross3306 In America if you are not on time your will have no business. America is 365 business place. Africa have long way to go to encourage people to run business successfully. Some of this criticism of the way business is done in Africa are actually constructive criticism. Use your critical thinking.
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
@@sophiemclarke6556 first of all shut the fuck up with ur comment. The are successful business all across afrika from morocco to South afrika u comment is uncalled for an sound little arrogant. Black Americans do not own any business here in afrika. I repeat again yall don't own shit. Alike dangote has nearly finished a £15 billion pounds oil refinery which is the biggest oil refinery in the world as well as having one biggest cement factory in Africa and in the world. What successful business Black American have that is outside America nothing. Ur comment right away disrespect the million of successful business owner across afrika. In addition to this, u last person to give constructive criticism in work place trust me.
@XRTSDFA
@XRTSDFA Год назад
@@kennykross3306 You guys do hate Black Americans, which is why they tell among them to not trust you. For instance, in the above statement, she never stated Black Americans; you automatically assume it and started attacking her. She gave some legit advice about constructive criticism, which in turn made you write an whole condescending paragraph. I’m not American, but this user name doesn’t seem Black to me either. So, it could be any other race/ethnicity.
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
@@XRTSDFA u are out ur mind. Black Americans are last people who should open their mouth and make constructive criticism about anything.
@hoseapipkins3347
@hoseapipkins3347 Год назад
Great conversation. It’s going to happen the more black Americans go to Africa. It’s a lifeline
@africanglobalnomad
@africanglobalnomad Год назад
Sir we are still talking about native Africans living overseas and coming back for decades now 😂. AA are just starting to trickle in - it’s still very much a trend and they’re yet to make a lasting impact. You seem to assume it’s only AA.
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
@@africanglobalnomad when did AA become responsible for making ANY impact in countries they choose to move to. They come with their own money and resources and don't absorb any social benefits provided by foreign governments, and usually only CONTRIBUTE to the economy by spending money and starting businesses with ZERO government or local support, So who do they owe anything to?
@lemungagenu5103
@lemungagenu5103 Год назад
But the FBAs African hating spokespersons say African immigrants "don't like them" when they form own communities in the US - hence the African Carribean immigrants catch hell from so called FBAs!
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
@@lemungagenu5103 Black Americans don't have a "spokesperson" is that ignorant older Ugandan man from the earlier street interviews the spokesperson for Uganda? And I don't believe the person you're referring to actually hates Africans, although he is a Black American and we tend to give what we get, in attitude, respect, courtesy, service, and value. It's called transparency.
@lemungagenu5103
@lemungagenu5103 Год назад
@@Silverbackugx What part of "FBA African hating spokespersons" against African/Carribean immigrants, do you choose not to understand? You argue like a woman. Red herrings all over, like Kevin Samuele showed his audience. Shame on you. You wouldn't last 2 minutes against Tina in this podcast! It's simple, compare your welcome experience in that Uganda (Africa) where you claim to be, against the experience of any African immigrant you may know in America (if you even know or met any), as relates to "Black Americans". Be truthful. We'll wait here! "Give back in kind"? African/Carribean immigrants in America have no where near the power, or numbers, to cause you soy boy FBAs any meaningful problems. All non black American blacks make up only about 10% of the black population. Yet look at how angry and mean y'all behave towards them (mean mugging and talking shit against them often). Look how the Haitian immigrants were treated, and not a peep from the black Americans, some of whom work in law enforcement giving those poor refugees hell. Shame! You Bryant, as a travelling grown ass man, needs to have a more nuanced, smarter position on these issues. Not be just like these 12 yr old Tariq Nasheed influenced fba kids on here. Be like Tina! Smart and substantive, not simp-like, like a biatch! Shame in you Bryant!
@XPLifeNow
@XPLifeNow Год назад
Do the diasporans drive prices up, or do the owners of those businesses and real estate drive prices up? Don't foreigners get overcharged in general in [insert African country]?
@1NavyLT
@1NavyLT Год назад
I have been watching ODJ for several years now and he seems to be successfully working with indigenous Africans and Diasporans. And the indigenous brothers and sisters are having a chance to benefit from his drive, knowledge, and business acumen. Keep up the good work! Wishing you peace and blessings from Southern California.
@daphneytennard3267
@daphneytennard3267 Год назад
There is no such thing as Indigenous Africans...Indigenous are the Native American Indians(Negroes)…knock it off! Indigenous Africans...two different people.
@alexandriamoor9170
@alexandriamoor9170 Год назад
The energy doesn't feel healthy. I've definitely changed my mind and no longer see Africa the way I used to. We can all just stay where we are and be abused. It's a real nasty energy between people. I can't even say our people since we not the same. They want your funds and ideas, nothing else.
@rockon8174
@rockon8174 Год назад
Yup. Extraction. Chinese are the exact same way to non-Chinese. Just like America treats the rest of the world! Extraction from non-Americans.
@Flashback543
@Flashback543 Год назад
Yes its very deceptive and jealous…they can come to the States check black and get everything we have including us fighting for them. We go there and them niggas taxin and scammin
@Xainfinen
@Xainfinen Год назад
They do the same between themselves too, it's one of the negative aspect of the black culture and I think it's a lot more prominent in African countries. In France, they have a saying "I'm gonna make people back home rage" because they go back home during the holidays with a lot of goods and giveaway money to flash their supposed success. Overall it just contribute to jealousy and unrealistic expectation. We should obviously work together to overcome our shortcomings and suppress the negative aspect of our different cultures but realistically that's wishful thinking. We can can easily segregate ourselves because of our differences and in end the diaspora going back to Africa can just be another form of colonisation.
@thezu9250
@thezu9250 Год назад
Nah. Dont let that stop you. It doesnt stop Asian and European people from taking from your ancestral homeland. Figure out how to play the game better. Africa is rich and has a very young population.
@jubernardi23
@jubernardi23 9 месяцев назад
@@thezu9250Rich in resources many countries are but it is not this that make the country great, powerful or prosperous.
@gwendolynturner239
@gwendolynturner239 Год назад
The local continental Africans work/operate on a go slow, lackadaisical, substandard when it comes to other black people from the diaspora but they work at a fast pase, with the swiftness/on schedule when it comes to people of other ethnicity!!!
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
completely nonsense .
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
Tina truly lives in LaLa Land. The privilege that immigrants enjoy in America is backed by the GOVERNMENT, and a CULTURE of Work Ethics. There is zero support system from the government or local community for diasporans in Uganda. I don't recognize or experience any "privilege" in Uganda that extends beyond what I have in my wallet. How is she actually making diasporans responsible for the conditions in Uganda that were already there . Petrol trucks and also trains run through developed countries everyday, that is also a risk to enable that DEVELOPMENT..I suggest she swallow a dose of "This is Uganda".
@tinaw463
@tinaw463 Год назад
Is that what you got from this? 😂
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
@@tinaw463 please explain if you meant something other than immigrants shouldn't expect fairness, transparency, and professionalism from people in business in Uganda, and if they do it's because of some type of privilege. I admit that I was never labeled a genius and Mensa is not looking for me, but I certainly don't live in the same neighborhood as stupid...even here in Uganda.
@tinaw463
@tinaw463 Год назад
@@Silverbackugx we can work Towards change but my point was you’re gonna get super frustrated thinking that change will take effect any time soon in the meantime I accept uganda for what it is and it’s love hate but definitely more love. Not once did I say diasporas were responsible for the way uganda was the only people responsible are those in power right? I just said there are benefits to coming over here from abroad so I can understand where the locals might be resentful. Acknowledging your privilege does not take away from any struggles you might have. Both things can be true
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
@@tinaw463 both things cannot be true. Privilege does not require monetary compensation. Whites have privilege, they get served first, they get left in the hotel room in peace until check out time and beyond, they get served HOT food in a timely manner. NONE of that cost them a schilling. However...this privilege you think Black Americans experience DOES NOT extend beyond their spending capacity. I intentionally don't iron my clothes before going shopping in these streets and never ask what anything cost, I simply point to or pick up what I want and give it to the vendor. That saves me a lot of BS from the local culture. My friends have always told me that Black Americans are their own tribe, I never understood why they would say that until I realized they only understand things in tribalistic routines. When they ask why I haven't learned the local language, I respectfully reply that if I travel 40-50Km nobody speaks your local language, if I travel 40-50 more nobody speaks that language, and since the world that I live and move in is much larger than your tribal territory, I respectfully decline from wasting my time. The arrogance and stubbornness of traditional Africans will hold them behind the ever changing world if they don't wake up.
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
what u wrote is nonsense . An immigrant need indeed a culture of work ethics but if u are new in usa u dont get help from usa government.
@thekorsh4230
@thekorsh4230 Год назад
I just came from Ghana I was trying to work with the locals but they keep reminding me to be careful instead of us actually working together. They want me to help them financially instead and they want to do their own stuff lol the mentality there is different. Guys we can't grow if we don't work together this mentality of working extremely hard to make it to the top by yourself is not worth it.
@victoriaogunsanya9074
@victoriaogunsanya9074 Год назад
Honestly lol. They don’t want to work this us but are happy to take your money
@jayajaya788
@jayajaya788 Год назад
@@victoriaogunsanya9074 Absolutely...my opinion is that they really don't want us there
@reggiemiller6274
@reggiemiller6274 Год назад
@@jayajaya788 Fuck that “we there” and let’s build up our own. with our own police and prosecutor attorneys, schools Im talking everything. we can do it, no white people allowed tho 😂
@fesderi3933
@fesderi3933 Год назад
They only care about dollars
@MarioLopez-si8jb
@MarioLopez-si8jb Год назад
If I'm working with black Africans and they don't a togetherness mentality I'm not helping.
@ericboswell8863
@ericboswell8863 Год назад
Excellent Conversation..And honestly I felt this way but couldn't articulate it. I've often wondered why the different African Immigrants here in the US tend to live among and do business specifically with each other vs in Black Community and it kinda pissed me off but listening to this I see why and what ur saying makes perfect sense.. 🖤💯
@blongshanks77
@blongshanks77 Год назад
This was a really good conversation. I’m African American, but I would never expect to be treated any different than the locals if I ever visited Africa. I guess we African Americans aren’t used to that. Here in the U.S. it’s a hit or miss. My wife and I have many different experiences when we go places. We take pride in the way we dress and articulate ourselves. A lot of times we will go to establishments that are predominately white, and interact with people there. Most of the times were treated like a anyone else, but there have been rare cases where the people were almost shocked that we didn’t act “ghetto”.
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Год назад
Do you honestly believe Africans and Black Americans share the same culture? The answer is no , so why wouldn't I as an African want to hang out with people from my country or region. I'm from Liberia and I'd ignore an Ethiopian just the same as a black American. So don't take it personal, it's a culture thing . West Africans don't even eat cheese or sugar in our traditional foods . East Africans be eating all kinds of milk and weird stuff , the same way black Americans be making sugary candy yams and cheesy macaroni. We're different, and it's ok. I don't hate you , I just rather chill with people who "get me"
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 Год назад
@@analyticalmindset True but we have to stop being mad when white people do the same . There is a reason why a lot of countries are closing their borders or decreasing the amount of immigrants allowed into their countries. They want to protect their culture , heritage, and history. If Africans like you want to hang with people “who get you” then perhaps Africans need to repair their own countries and stop running to the West and Asia for opportunities. Nothing personal, but if you did this you would be able to stay where you are and with the people who get you.
@Rosannasfriend
@Rosannasfriend Год назад
Thanks for the explanation, na.
@williammckinney567
@williammckinney567 Год назад
Black Americans and Africans are not the same people. Figi island black people are not the same as Africans. Australia aboriginals black people are not the same as Africans. You have different type black people world wide.
@swimmingmantis22
@swimmingmantis22 Год назад
We all need healing. That is the truth of things. We cannot forget that the same damage by the same enemies were done to us all. We all need help.
@drinabooboo
@drinabooboo Год назад
So true. Colonizers have done a number on our way of life and spirits.
@RahquiehBryant341
@RahquiehBryant341 Год назад
Tina is why I came here to comment. "Accountability" well said! I am so very proud.
@3user-f3d
@3user-f3d Год назад
Is it me, or is Tina a hater? If not then when is she not a hater.
@3user-f3d
@3user-f3d Год назад
@Tina W Nah, you just a straight up hater! 😆
@TheAfrikanSuperstar
@TheAfrikanSuperstar Год назад
The transition is indeed complex but i appreciate these conversations. Thank you for excellent content #Afrikansuperstar ✊🏿
@gustopherdanso
@gustopherdanso Год назад
Loved your live today. Watched the whole hour plus. Yes Ghanians are ungrateful but you know they say you don't appreciate what u have till its lost
@daphneytennard3267
@daphneytennard3267 Год назад
A lot of our people are not feeling Africa.
@mikecarlton9000
@mikecarlton9000 Год назад
The Americans are doing it right. Get powerful in business in Africa as a group first, then you could employee locals and invest in local businesses.
@KangTheDigitalNomad
@KangTheDigitalNomad Год назад
And the Chinese have straight up said You, y'all need bug lamps,A/C and trains in this b_tch!!!! But oh btw, you will accept the new Global Currency 💲 when it all goes down type B.R.I.C.S. in the RU-vid search bar and learn about it.
@degerrgat5485
@degerrgat5485 Год назад
Those Africa Americans most of them are broke
@carlalandrau6033
@carlalandrau6033 Год назад
That is what every group do when they come to America and I'm sure Europe. There's a reason for that you don't have to explain anything you all know where you want to go and you have the same mindset on how to get there. Trust is very important in any relationship you have to be a man of your word. A man that stands for nothing will fall for anything
@blessedbeauty5411
@blessedbeauty5411 Год назад
I love the way you guys challenge each other in a respectful manner.
@lyndak3269
@lyndak3269 Год назад
I greatly appreciated listening to this young panel with African and African Americans. Ive been trying to figure out why we were so against each other and now I have better insight on what we all have to do to get along with ourselves.
@sasbridgecloserstudent
@sasbridgecloserstudent Год назад
I like these types of discussions. It is better to talk about it together, then to keep it hidden while harboring negative feelings and thoughts about Africans on the continent and those in the diaspora.
@1jonbarnes1
@1jonbarnes1 Год назад
Every other nationality has setup shop in African countries, African Americans, as well as the diaspora, may want to compare notes. The time will come when strategic execution, will be necessary to maintain and grow your business. Again, at the end of the day, it's not just what you can set up but what you can keep. Thanks for the post.
@kevinperkins754
@kevinperkins754 Год назад
Without self accountability, nothing gets done. There’s no growth. Self accountability is key in order to get better. Without it, you remain a failure, and not even the government can help you.
@trueserenityone
@trueserenityone Год назад
💯💯
@JRTexx
@JRTexx Год назад
Facts
@pepesteps6944
@pepesteps6944 Год назад
Of course its the government that has to instill the culture of accountability in its citizens. It starts from the top. But it has systematically closed one eye so that they can exploit the system themselves. They are the biggest beneficiaries of the system
@LosAngelesMade
@LosAngelesMade 11 месяцев назад
@pepe it’s actually the complete opposite it’s the people from the ground that sets the standard for values and principles not a dam government wth
@kevinperkins754
@kevinperkins754 11 месяцев назад
@@LosAngelesMade I see you have bad understanding, that’s what I said!
@romulenrising
@romulenrising Год назад
History repeats itself. AA's should be careful to not let that happen again.
@teec.
@teec. Год назад
OKAY! I would never trust living in Africa versus America. There is a reason so many flee their countries for European countries. Their governments are corrupt too, and infrastructure not as good as any European country......so many reasons not to live in Africa.
@daphneytennard3267
@daphneytennard3267 Год назад
AA is two continents... not a race!
@romulenrising
@romulenrising Год назад
@@daphneytennard3267 Their forebears were from one race.
@sindiswamsubo9519
@sindiswamsubo9519 Год назад
I would have loved to hear a South Africans perspective on this topic, but this was great I learned so much as a South African. Well done guys ❤
@livingfaith9189
@livingfaith9189 Год назад
Why?. Americans are going to west Africa so let them discuss with their people or let alone from the place they were taken during slavery. How is South African opinion needed here? Aibo yoh
@sindiswamsubo9519
@sindiswamsubo9519 Год назад
@@livingfaith9189 at the end of the day we’re all black and we’re all on the African continent. If as a people we’re truly trying to build Africa and take it to heights we’ve never seen before we’re going to need to work together to achieve that goal. For the continent to prosper we’re going to need one another, hence having a Southern African perspective would have also added value to this discussion, especially since the Different Diaspora’s are watching and learning too. And we need them if we want to build Africa together.
@LosAngelesMade
@LosAngelesMade 11 месяцев назад
Guy relax ur trying to speak for us when you don’t. We are coming back home all over Africa i for one love South Africa ive coke for months and I’ve been to Uganda and I also love it there so don’t just think we are coming to only ghana and nigeria eventho I love both places.
@f6876
@f6876 Год назад
We need more conversations like this,excellent podcast
@iamtheoriginallionessden3065
Bottom line is it's about honesty being a person of your word, that's all and that's it.
@sadeimoresojourns
@sadeimoresojourns Год назад
True
@lydiakapten
@lydiakapten 3 месяца назад
That is a problem they are having..😢
@cme1713
@cme1713 Год назад
what do AFRICANS or any other Group do when they move to a different country? Create a Community. then learn the Customs and TRADITIONS
@lydiakapten
@lydiakapten 3 месяца назад
🎤
@reubenwest5605
@reubenwest5605 Год назад
The sister makes a good point. but we as black people have to fight for our rights and some will die, we are the only race of people who keep saying only God knows. Every other race fights.
@eldercraft8912
@eldercraft8912 Год назад
@ Joanita...Teena complements you very well and she is able to distinguish quickly between fact and fiction.
@lejumoga6233
@lejumoga6233 Год назад
This is a serious issue for the people from the diaspora to consider. When Idi Amin kicked out Asians from Uganda, he was actually supported by so many Ugandans. Idi Amin was in fact congratulated by students from Makerere University. Ordinary Ugandans were even speaking the language of Idi Amin--- these foreigners are milking Uganda. Yes, people from the diaspora have significant advantage over the Ugandans who have not travelled anywhere. Exposure to different social, political, economic environment's is very important. People in the US for example, are exposed to so many things. They have access to internet and library. Libraries contain all knowledge, skills, practices that the world has generated. This is rare in Africa. In Kampala I could not read my e-mail because there was no electricity. Today, in the county I live in children are encouraged to read 1000 books before kindergarten. Is this happening in Uganda? And by the way the Kicking out of foreigners in East Africa was planned by the all the countries. So, it's important for the people from the diaspora to think about to how with together with the Ugandans.
@T.image79
@T.image79 Год назад
You are still brainwashed if you are comparing the Black diasporan direct children of Africa to Indians.
@mansamusa9465
@mansamusa9465 Год назад
Idi Amin kicked the Indians out and in 2023 Indians control more of Uganda economy than Ugandans
@Tee-kc3pn
@Tee-kc3pn Год назад
That's y'all fault! Why haven't you built anything yet??? African Americans were FORCED to build Anerica! That was not by choice. African Americans fought for EVERY right they have in that country. YOU have the privilege of being born and raised in your native land but haven't built shit due to constant fighting amongst each other.......Do better and stop looking to the very people who were snatched from everything they knew to build another country.....
@Craig-pm2kc
@Craig-pm2kc Год назад
1000s books before grade school. Really
@lejumoga6233
@lejumoga6233 Год назад
It's happening. The staff in the library are eagerly waiting to help but families have to be willing to do it. It can be impossible for single parents who have to be at work all the time. And that is why single parents households are always a problem.
@paulholsey2754
@paulholsey2754 Год назад
Great great conversation and sister Tina was right about rebutting the accountability statement. If your people have been in poverty for over three generations, pulling yourself out is slim in any sub Saharan African nations. Great conversation and we all go through these transitions trying to repatriate in Africa. Love all of you all for the conversation.
@kennykross3306
@kennykross3306 Год назад
not everyone is poor . the majority are rather middle class
@diasporaconnecttanzania3521
I been living in Tanzania for 2 1/2 yrs. The same things happen with the diasporas here. It is a trust issue here with us as well. Of course we prefer to do business with the locals but it is difficult to trust some of the locals. There have been horror stories of those diaspora who have gotten beat badly and had to run back to America because they ran out of money
@Kenganda
@Kenganda Год назад
Wow we need to link
@nanabrimpong3485
@nanabrimpong3485 Год назад
@@Kenganda hi Duke, I think people need to stop thinking they know too much and are better than the locals when they come to Africa. You mentioned Liberia and this is this exactly what is happening and from your speech it's not only about elitism but they want to be superior to the local Africans. With the issue of businesses and people scamming people out of their businesses and running down businesses is not about diaspora, this happens amongst the locals too. Go out there and speak to most business owners and see what they go through and what others trying to start-up have been through. Black people are literally born like this. like the lady said the fact you are here doesn't mean the people must change for you or do things your way. O'shea do you know how many diaspora are scamming their own than Africans. Not all locals are the same. The best solution is for brothers and sisters to calm down and learn the culture and ways and understand the people in order to blend in and also to know how and who to deal with. There are bad people everywhere but you need the right people to deal with. Some diaspora come to Africa with the colonizers mentality and that's why they fail because people will not allow that. The brother made a point but that was for those individuals at the top from what I understood because he didn't want to say it clearly. Which is corruption at it's best but same thing in the west they call it lobbying. This sort of corruption affects the locals out there because if your initiative doesn't succeed some people miss out on jobs. I noticed that a lot diaspora accuse the local Africans that they are scammers but they are the ones scamming their own more because you guys get to trust your fellow diaspora than the locals you are there to live with and want to behave like slave masters and the people wouldn't like that. But we do not hate any diaspora. It's the diaspora who are thought to hate each other and they bring that mentality over because they are paranoid. The issue also in Africa is the trading standards and laws which does favour anyone. O'shea no foreigners can do anything without an African right from opening business to buying houses and a lot more. This was policies they did put in place for foreigners not to come in with their money to take advantage of the system and people. Regardless of being a diaspora not all black people are black if you get my point because a lot would work for the slave master to finish his own black people. Same as an African cannot just go to the west either British or American or wherever but you must go through the process just as the policies setup and the Africans going abroad to struggle before being able to achieve some standard. Remember the west is also interfering in African issues too. She said everything has gone up except alcohol what does that tell you in Uganda?
@nanabrimpong3485
@nanabrimpong3485 Год назад
The systems are designed to prevent unity. But the local Africans regardless are welcoming to the diaspora and with no hate but the diaspora feel they are hated. You know sometimes even though we all speak English sometimes the locals prefer to speak their local languages and would keep them away or shy away from indulging in the conversation. Diaspora need to try to learn the unity of African because the diaspora are thought division. I'm Ghana land was donated freely by a chief for all diaspora and when the diaspora arrived most wanted to turn it into a diaspora only town with a fence wall and their own formed police not the Ghanaian state police but their own with armed police and no locals coming around. Meanwhile the chief that gave this land wanted the diaspora to come and live there together in harmony with the locals and learn from each other and knowing the diaspora would create jobs and businesses which would benefit all. I am talking about Asebu Freeland for diaspora in Ghana at Cape Coast. Guess what, the land is free for every diaspora but you have to pay to get your land registration documents like everywhere else but the land allocated is free. Some diaspora who came and keep coming, I said some are using this to scam their own fellow diaspora because they keep telling the diaspora not to trust the locals and they would handle everything but scam them in the end or too them off. Mostly without the idea of the locals. Some come and look around and then go back and form a tourism business bringing people to scam them. They take them top places and scam them after the fun and exciting trips. Then after They get scammed by their own they start to blame the locals out of anger. But most successful diaspora were all helped by locals. Africans are kind welcoming people. Diaspora need to leave what they are told and taught there when coming. A lot also come to Africa wanting things to be like telling west they came from forgetting they are in the motherland. Have you asked yourself why is that any most diaspora that come to visit and see opportunity go back and come with a tourism group of people or organise tours with all inclusive using well bargained hotels to cut themselves deals so that they make more money on their own into their pockets. Look at most of them that have been accused? Are the locals? Mostly diaspora. We need to watch some of them because they don't come with good intentions. This is why some countries are reluctant in giving their passports to diaspora because some may use it badly.
@yungheat84
@yungheat84 Год назад
@@nanabrimpong3485but Africans don’t come to america to do business with black America, they look pass that and focus on their education and money
@nanabrimpong3485
@nanabrimpong3485 Год назад
@@yungheat84 what do you call America? Land of opportunity right? And I disagree with your point because the masses that come there are In search for greener pastures and barely have enough to start businesses that can employ most black American's or black European or Caribbean. But the ones who are fortunate to open businesses that can employ a lot do employ everyone. I bare witness to this because I know Ghanaians in America that have employed black American's and same in Europe as black Europeans. In fact some even do businesses with black American's and European and some are even business partners. The issue black American's mostly have is they look down on Africans when they come abroad and make fun of them. The jobs get take you black American's wouldn't take or do it because you feel entitled but they do it and make money and all they get in return like you just said is hate and envy because they do well over there. Remember when you see any African abroad they have a huge responsibility to feed themselves and family members back home. Unlike the black American's who have been westernized and know only their nucleus family, we Africans have the responsibility of the extended. So if you see them chasing that money it isn't just for them but for their entire family. Plus the lifestyle they live abroad is different from most black American's or black European, they live very humble lifestyle unlike most black American's make your money just for yourselves and think of some special grooming gear and expensive jewellery and all that money for that jewellery could start a business or even but a home but a brother would live in the mothers basement and buy those things and not own a business. And African would only get what is necessary at the time with regards to their pockets. I wouldn't say too much but keep your eyes open and see the difference in lifestyle abroad between the two. Plus we struggle a lot to even make it there just to live and work of study. And after all that huddle even an African gets there you want him to hang out with brothers and sisters in the hood just spending most of the time doing nothing or their own things, what does the African brother gain from hanging out with them wasting time that could make them money to pay bills. But they do hang out with you guys but sometimes you guys also disassociate with them because you feel you are better than them because they are from Africa and you are not. But here you are now trooping to Africa. There are favourable and good systems in place abroad that you guys are born into that people born in Africa don't have. So there is a big difference in lifestyle people are brought up with. The little things you take for granted is a big thing for the African.
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss Год назад
I think it's a culture thing. Values, culture, etc. You know what I think, if we want any semblance of unity and good vibes 😂 we need to have places where we can join together and be with one another and learn about and from one another. There needs to be COMMUNITY led projects that facilitate this. Because long term, it is SO SO SO SOOOOO important! So important! So important.
@musical_lolu4811
@musical_lolu4811 Год назад
Culture plus the effects of colonialism.
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss Год назад
@@musical_lolu4811 yeah definitely. And whilst I'm listening to them, I understand it from the ground better. The way countries are set up in Africa due to colonialism and elitism by "leaders" definitely is having an effect here. Sadly. I just hope there are ways to get together more and rub off on each other so we can create our own culture and ways of being together - that respects and considers each other.
@ericboswell8863
@ericboswell8863 Год назад
I actually agree with Tina on the issue of accountability.. Good Conversation y'all..🖤💯
@patrickkuffour
@patrickkuffour Год назад
@47:36 spoken like a true queen! She has defended her people and hasn’t taken a shit on her people. Regardless of what we face we should never take down to ourselves! Real Queen Right here!
@faheemfaquir1024
@faheemfaquir1024 Год назад
"Because of your privilege." -TINA What are the best WAYS to utilize this privilege for the benefit of both groups?
@Daron7181
@Daron7181 Год назад
That was fought hard for by Black Americans. No one gave it to our ancestors.
@joanjones3677
@joanjones3677 Год назад
​@@Daron7181 Exactly...privilege? Ancestors suffered for centuries.
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
@@faheemfaquir1024 being a Black America is about as far from "whiteness" as you can get. Africans really don't know or understand the relationship between Black and White Americans, but Black Americans can clearly see what's going on with them and White people.
@SlangScientist
@SlangScientist Год назад
@@joanjones3677 They suffered, so that we could benefit, and we have compared to them.
@faheemfaquir1024
@faheemfaquir1024 Год назад
@@Silverbackugx Power is gained thru proximity to power for example a white woman is more powerful than a black man because of her proximity to white men. Also black people are more powerful because of being a citizen in a country where the economy is strong and the access is plentiful. Therefore Africans and others around the world who value the western world, will look at black Americans with their access in mind.
@goldenheart751
@goldenheart751 Год назад
Common sense is a privilege and that is something most continental Africans don't have where business is concerned.
@pplopde4437
@pplopde4437 Год назад
Wow there might be at least 1.3billiion black people in the continent . Most of them would represent what percentage . What would be the percentage of those without common sense out of over a billion . Black in America at least 45 million Michelle Obama seems like she has common sense but some in Chicago might not . Afro Brazilian over 120 million . Brazilian soccer star Pele 3 wives multiple mistresses . I would assume Paul Kagame in Rwanda has common sense . Life expectancy in Rwanda was 26 in 1994 today almost 70 the highest in East Africa . Black women life expectancy in US 71 and declining . Black men 68 and declining .
@goldenheart751
@goldenheart751 Год назад
@@pplopde4437 Well, the perfect example of most don't have common sense when it comes to business is when the diaspora spend their money with businesses on the continent always get scammed or over priced will cause the diaspora not to return to continue doing business with them, but the local businesses are always loyal to locals with the pricing and "MOST" locals don't have money. So who played who?
@jayajaya788
@jayajaya788 Год назад
Some Africans love and value the white man! I have heard some things that are going on in Africa, especially with Africa Americans...we must understand that all skin folks aren't kin folks...
@International-Eli
@International-Eli Год назад
Big girl is playing devils advocate just for the sake of doing it The fact still remains business is business. Do things correctly or lose out
@jayajaya788
@jayajaya788 Год назад
Exactly
@tinaw463
@tinaw463 Год назад
Your daddy’s a big girl... 😘
@donaldmwenesi4964
@donaldmwenesi4964 Год назад
Just discovered this Channel today, the convo is healthy and lit. Much love from Kenya.
@Kenganda
@Kenganda Год назад
Thanks so much!
@journeytothemosthigh5021
@journeytothemosthigh5021 Год назад
I get that you cannot come to an African country and expect US or UK services or mindset… on the flip side don’t expect US or UK rates or money! Don’t upcharge us to the point that not even a local can pay! We are in a given African country remember that and don’t look at us as atms. You don’t know what it took for us to get to where you met us!
@LeloucheDGuitar
@LeloucheDGuitar Год назад
Good selection of people to give an insight into the topic, really widened my view on it as I'm planning to move to Ghana this year
@KuttyJoe
@KuttyJoe Год назад
Let me just throw this out there. That conversation about people not paying, or not doing what they're supposed to do in business. It was my entire experience working in the clothing business in New York and New Jersey. It was just normal and typical that nobody did what they said they were going to do. Nobody. Nobody shipped goods on time. People shipped goods that you didn't order and they hoped that you would just take it. They shipped the wrong quantities and hope that you would just take it. They didn't pay, certainly not on time. One standard operating procedure that I experienced as a norm was people would not pay until they needed something else. You deliver the goods or services. They don't pay. Then, they ask for new goods or services, and they pay at that time. This is America I'm talking about. That experience was so terrible and so stressful. Your goods arrive, and you have no idea what you're going to find when you open those boxes. It's extra cost, extra time, etc. Ya'll got me stressed just remembering that experience. LOL And it gets worse. A lot of people won't tell you anything if they don't have good news. You ordered goods but they didn't arrive. That's because they never shipped them. You call and try to find out where your goods are, but the contact person won't answer the phone. You call over and over, but the contact person never answers and never responds. And suddenly, 2 weeks later, the contact person calls you like nothing is wrong with good news, your goods are on the way! I had people who were mad because they found out that I was making a ton of money on the goods that they had sold to me. Suddenly, they decided that their own wholesale prices were not enough. They wanted to get a piece of my action! Like, how do you fix your mouth to question how much I sell the goods for? You have a wholesale price. I pay it. That's the end of our conversation. But, I will say that what I'm describing is the what it's like in the North East. It's not necessarily like that elsewhere in America.
@propheticlifestories
@propheticlifestories Год назад
As an African American who has gone to Africa, I can relate with how African Americans would decide to form associations within themselves. It is not what I would call elitism. It would make logical sense to me for that kind of situation to develop to help increase your chance at having ethics in your business or organization with the ethics we have grew up on and received from the USA. No the USA is not perfect. However there are general ways that businesses and organizations are taken care of in America. Such strategies I would expect are important towards. having trust from the local community, public, clients, customers or what have you in gaining success in your business. But hopefully these kind of strategies could be fostered towards the locals so that they can be a part of the success too.
@kalafricaniut
@kalafricaniut Год назад
This is a greatly needed conversation and I'm very happy to see it happening.
@lasha4585
@lasha4585 Год назад
Tina, ethics, and privilege are NOT the same thing, stop throwing that word around as if AAs have real privilege in America!!! Moreover, if they don't care, why should we do business with them???!!!
@silvabakx6396
@silvabakx6396 Год назад
One of Kenganda's best so far! We're slowly crossing that bridge. Lead de wae ODJ!💪🏾👁
@johnnyhiggins5292
@johnnyhiggins5292 Год назад
Both guests are very knowledgeable and I must say Tina knows her stuff this is the second video I watched her on the show and I learn something every time
@dannykwane1180
@dannykwane1180 Год назад
"Accountability is a privelege"😲 Tina fails to realise that a lack accountability has resulted in the issues faced by most sub saharan Africans. Corruption is so rampant in our communities, and this is being justified by pointing the finger at colonizers, politicians, or leaders. Two wrongs will never make a right. Its up to every one of us to start making a change
@RepentJesusisComing
@RepentJesusisComing Год назад
It is funny how when Africans work for Multinational companies in Africa they have the same work ethic and ethos that is international. But when they deal with other black people from Diaspora or Africa these ideals go out the window.
@r01dtox15
@r01dtox15 Год назад
It's the same thing like here in Atl.... If you want something done right and your money or job is on the line, you better hire Mexicans or Asians or Africans.... When you don't give a F### then you hire FBA / ADOS.
@XRTSDFA
@XRTSDFA Год назад
@@r01dtox15 Like, why do we cultivate that mentality?
@mopride7249
@mopride7249 Год назад
I love the chic in jeans. She is on point with insight and knowledge. Impartial and respectful. 10/10 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@Kalagenesis
@Kalagenesis Год назад
Liberia wasn’t elitism because the natives had their own elite who protected their status and interests from day one.Also there were native families who participated in building Liberia the Massaquoi and Fanbullah clans were the most educated and powerful political families in Liberia equal to the Johnson,Randells Ceasar’s Coopers and Maximores
@afrobabetj
@afrobabetj Год назад
What was it then? (not disagreeing with you. Just want to learn)
@Kalagenesis
@Kalagenesis Год назад
@@afrobabetj elitism is a Western term.In every society there are always going to be people who are on top and people on the bottom.The goal is to create a middle class.Also the Liberian constitution is the only constitution written that actually protects the indigenous peoples from colonialism and exploitation.Every one of the sixteen tribes voluntarily joined Liberia to avoid becoming part of the French and British territories which were brutal in nature.In fact most of the indigenous people are from neighboring countries.
@akuacatastaire4174
@akuacatastaire4174 Год назад
@@Kalagenesis Please write a book on Liberia, Kala. We desperately need it!
@zeeqq105
@zeeqq105 Год назад
First time here. Love the guy in Red. He made so many great points. Very interesting.
@petertosh8275
@petertosh8275 Год назад
You can't change Africa but Africa will change u
@mikejones-wn1sw
@mikejones-wn1sw Год назад
@Peter Tosh doesn't appear so
@thekorsh4230
@thekorsh4230 Год назад
She keep saying its a privilege it's not. Ww are willing to work with locals
@mikejones-wn1sw
@mikejones-wn1sw Год назад
@@thekorsh4230 they also sell their children to WW and organ harvest. Dunno what that is suppose to mean
@africanglobalnomad
@africanglobalnomad Год назад
@peter most diaspora once they get used to the system, they become more corrupt (cutting corners) than the locals and most are already doing so 😂😂😂
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx Год назад
Been living in Africa for two years now, it has yet to change anything about me except my skin tone where exposed. I refuse to devolve into backward tribalism and petty jealousy. I couldn't even do it subconsciously. I refuse to participate in outdated irrelevant practices and traditions that only serve to have negative effects on the larger society..Africa ain't changing $#!+ here.
@maliwoodtalks
@maliwoodtalks Год назад
Awesome conversations. Great points made by everyone. Oshay is leading the wave of this African unity. Sone of us diasporas are on board and want to help bring the change we need for all African descendants. It’s the only way to end white supremacy.
@JPayne-uo8ti
@JPayne-uo8ti Год назад
Oshay seems to have a passion for our people and doesn't mind kicking butts. I think we as blacks in the diaspora need it. After 400 years we ought to be ready and qualified to return home and be a real help.
@maliwoodtalks
@maliwoodtalks Год назад
@@JPayne-uo8ti agreed 👌🏾
@daylo_bean
@daylo_bean Год назад
A person defends what they relate to the most.
@babydoll6280
@babydoll6280 Год назад
Thank God for yt. I really thought I wanted to go to Africa, but after watching yt videos about it, no way. It sounds like I would be dealing with a similar mess as in the US. Then it sounds like just because you are a blk American, they want to get over on you.
@truetwinflameandspirituala8211
And if people can't expect to build with people who are dishonest liars. We can't expect to integrate with people who can't do something as simple as DELIVER the promised products and services.
@joshlikings7437
@joshlikings7437 Год назад
The divisions is bad news! This the same thing Indians and whites when they come to Africa, so what's the whole essence of our own coming back?
@carmennicholson2867
@carmennicholson2867 Год назад
That's so TRUE! This guy is right!
@blackgold1980
@blackgold1980 Год назад
I am getting so much from watching these podcasts. Thanks to Kenganda for this.
@kworekwatwinson8937
@kworekwatwinson8937 Год назад
Joanita is a spectator just like the rest of us in these Repat podcasts...
@truetwinflameandspirituala8211
I'll NEVER RESPECT anyone who LEANS on EXCUSES! PERIODT!
@harrison441
@harrison441 Год назад
I enjoy the program. I understand everything that happens in Ghana fuzz business and why the black diaspora separates. From the native people they look at you like a 🏧. I have known a person in Ghana had his entire business stolen by someone from Ghana because he had to partner up with them. Also the young lady on the show was very toasty.
@alexxb7957
@alexxb7957 Год назад
This is spot on!
@Dtella55
@Dtella55 Год назад
Truth!
@BantuMechanic
@BantuMechanic Год назад
I love this conversation and it's something that the entire "black" community needs to be a part of. I want to shout out @Quest2UniteAfrika because they are approaching this topic head on with their work connecting the diaspora to the continent. I see that this is an issue that all of us Diaspora that repatriate will have to face at least in the present and near future.
@daylo_bean
@daylo_bean Год назад
Thanks for this conversation. Watching this channel now makes me wonder where can we go as a diaspora to get things done? We are greatly damaged across this planet or so it seems.
@pmambongwe8640
@pmambongwe8640 Год назад
Southern Africa is much better
@Ntegritty
@Ntegritty Год назад
@@pmambongwe8640 Can you elaborate on why SA is much better?
@pmambongwe8640
@pmambongwe8640 Год назад
@@Ntegritty Interact with AA this side and ask them about their experiences here then compare it to the experince of those in West Africa for example. It will be better coming from them
@LosAngelesMade
@LosAngelesMade 11 месяцев назад
Dam Oshay this is a good conversation can’t believed I missed this one
@truetwinflameandspirituala8211
People will stay POOR if they keep NOT delivering the goods and services they promised. Your word and integrity is how you'll be able to build a SUCCESSFUL business.
@babyyoda7521
@babyyoda7521 Год назад
Don’t take it too hard guys. I’m only one generation removed and because I was born in ‘America’, I’m not ‘really ____ (fill in nation here). My people tell me this to my face. From Ghana to Uganda. Had an Acholi uncle through marriage call me a slave because my father is from The Gold Coast. They put the agents on both sides within the last 7yrs. It’s new. No different than growing up in LA County. Fight for respect when needed, you’ll get it.
@TellTheTruthNation
@TellTheTruthNation Год назад
That big woman's argument was not genuine. Why blame the diaspora that move back to African for issues that native Africans are having. We had even more issues in the U.S. as slaves. We can't just keep setting ourselves up for failure just to appease a people that don't care for us and get angry when we come there and flourish because of our own merit and hard work.
@ThatDude330
@ThatDude330 Год назад
O'Shay is showing us that the defeatist mindset exist in other places. Using people's perceived privilege as a club to beat them down to your level. While dwelling in your weak minded victimhood. For all of the people who overcome all odds as if they never existed. Here's to you. Stay focused.
@reggiemiller6274
@reggiemiller6274 Год назад
My guy in the red was doing his thing.
@mastergabs
@mastergabs Год назад
Thank you, brother!
@sadeimoresojourns
@sadeimoresojourns Год назад
💯
@manzihoward9540
@manzihoward9540 Год назад
All Tina was speaking were straight facts🔥🔥🔥🔥 and the fact that she has grown up in Uganda and in the UK, I guess she has first-hand knowledge on the topic. I totally agree with her, the systems in place in LDCs are not apt enough to elevate the average Ugandan. The existing systems only favour the rich families, and the well-connected people. That is why there is a ceaseless exodus of Ugandans to "greener pastures", and the diametrical influx of "foreigners" into Ug. Until the systems are bettered to benefit their citizens, this will remain the status quo. Love your show.
@ustand2186
@ustand2186 Год назад
You all still need to educate the locals to understand the way of doing business. This is why they have been wanting you to come. Come to an understanding, learn from each other, establish rules and guidelines for each other and then work at helping the locals while at the same time, keep your business successful.
@drinabooboo
@drinabooboo Год назад
Exactly, well said.
@JPayne-uo8ti
@JPayne-uo8ti Год назад
Yes!
@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv
@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv Год назад
Educate the locals 😂😂😂
@Jiggyp869
@Jiggyp869 Год назад
The locals been having business before y’all decided to move to African countries, they’ll be good 👍
@verajjingo6706
@verajjingo6706 Год назад
Until the locals stop seeing others as their piggy bank waiting to short change you at every opportunity. Life will stay as it is.
@sylviathugge
@sylviathugge Год назад
Brilliant conversation, please continue the dialogue as the bridge between locals and the diaspora need to be strengthened.
@mistashortstroke443
@mistashortstroke443 Год назад
My man did an excellent job explaining his point....I salute you Sir 👍
@mastergabs
@mastergabs Год назад
Thank you, sir!
@christianhume7618
@christianhume7618 Год назад
@39:00 'Everything else has raised in price, but the price of alcohol in this country'. WOW! 😳🤔
@juviasgrey9897
@juviasgrey9897 Год назад
I haven’t watched the whole podcast yet but I just hope and pray Africans and African Americans understand that it’s really us against the world. We can benefit so much from each other because at the end of the day other ethnicities are going to treat us like we’re the same anyway.
@gustopherdanso
@gustopherdanso Год назад
Oshay we need Kenganda clips or shorts or something. The opening preview will be good for sharing. Not everyone has 30+ min all the time to plug in. A little here or there can go a long way and will be great for sharing among my peers. Thank you for listening or not 🤣
@OshayDukeJackson
@OshayDukeJackson Год назад
Yes we will bro sorry about that!
@louverture905
@louverture905 Год назад
This is a good podcast. I am learning a lot about "the diaspora." What the sister (w/ headwrap) said about "they don't care" is very telling... Capitalism rules the world and dictates who will be poor... Africans need to start caring.
@Cahluvca
@Cahluvca Год назад
Cold heart reality based discussions! 💯
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