Billions and billions of years passed before we were all born and we couldn't care less because we were non-existent. Billions and billions of years will pass after we die and guess what, we won't care, because we will be non-existent. Rather simple to comprehend when you think about it, isn't it?
for me, nothingness means that you won’t have a consciousness after death meaning that you wouldn’t have any reflection / fomo of your life and what would’ve happened after. so the whole fomo idea isn’t that scary for me 😭
I exist and have plenty of experience doing it. But, I hate it. I want to return to the great void from which I came. I want the emptiness of no consciousness. Thus, not all that exist have a bias toward existing. I have both existed and not existed. Nothingness is far better than existing. Of course, I do not remember anything about not existing because, well, I did not exist.
No, there is no way I can stand living an infinite amount of years, being bound to one singular location, even with friends. Like no shit I have friends and it’d be fun for a few hundred years. But let’s keep it real, at a certain point, it’s torture. You can’t do shit, you can’t touch crap, you’re a ghost. All y’all acting like you guys can last thousands upon thousands of years even with friends, like I promise y’all you guys are not him, you guys all going insane 😂
The terrifying thing is that we don't even remember how we get into the world, its like, we just found ourselves alive, and our only evidence is the momentarily of living.
Yeah, sometimes it reminds me of drops of water emerging, dropping down, realizing themselves, what's around them, others droplets of water, all watching as we come to an end, just to plop out of existence.
@@oOKitty86Oo indeed, also everytime whenever you think about your previous self, like when you were in certain point in the past, you feel like you wasn't in control of your decision and wasn't yourself. Like you were a different person. This I think because we change our personality and perspective constantly, which make it really stupid to overthink about any past/future decision. Because we were/will be a different person everytime.
Imagine being born as a factor farmed animal. Your life's purpose to be bred into existence, then be stuffed with food, to suffer in a crammed space with your kin, just to killed and cupped up for infinity. Sounds Yummy 😋
What essentially makes death bad is when it's too soon. A child for example is tragic as they never got a chance to live. However, a very old person, death is expected and a way to escape the pain and ailments of their body and rest in peace as they lived a full life.
what counts as a full life? the old person could have regrets, mistakes, wish they did more in their time.. the young person could’ve done everything they ever wanted to do, achieved it all and then died. this thought relies on there being a set time for all death, how do we know the old person was meant to die then? what if they were supposed to live even longer?
@@negativenancy6080 We all have an appointment with death. We would want to live as many years as we can in order to accomplish all we desire before that appointment. This is why we all need to make better decisions in our lives to ensure our journey is a pleasant and fulfilling one.
@@dy_507Scenario 1: You are deemed a bad person by other people (or a God). This is because you act selfishly (kill ,steal etc). Scenario 2: You are deemed a good person by other people . This is because you act selfishly (help other people / save them because It makes you happy, it makes you feel like a good person). In the end, everything you do Is for yourself. What is the difference between these people? The outcome. Human nature (your brain) dictates the intentions. Does a God care about the outcome?
I don't think boredom is antithetical to perfection, but I don't think the boredom would be permanent. Eventually you will find something or more likely someone who makes existence worth it. I think that may be one of his short comings in his analysis. His analysis was narcissistic and emotionless in nature. He doesn't consider he would be living with people he loves and who love him.
@@Jake-nh5thno, the definition of god is perfect, 100%, and his creation of heaven would be 100% perfect, and to allow boredom would not be perfect, so yes heaven would never be boring because it would be perfect, how could a perfect being that is literally the creator never created , create an imperfect heaven when it is his goal for it to be perfect
The thing that always comforted me, in a weird way, is when you are dead, you are the opposite of alive. For example, try to think about what you remember before you were born, and it is the same feeling. You never felt bad, remorse, happiness, sadness, or hopelessness. It’s a rare phenomenon to exist, that’s why it’s so important to just experience things. Because it’s such a rare opportunity to be alive, let alone be conscious. Try to live life the way you want. Treat others well because no matter what we all die. Death is unbiased. It’s not an evil thing. It’s just the opposite of what we know. And what we know is what we experience. Nothing lasts forever which in my eyes, is beautiful.
Pre existing non existence would be different than post existing non existence. Can you remember your dreams all the time? No.... there's really no way to know
My thing is: if we are born once who says we won't be born again? Who says we won't experience non-existence for a bit, then experience existence once again.
I actually find a lot of comfort in 'nothing'. Life is hard, man. Living in itself is pretty exhausting a lot of the time. So many different things to juggle from education, to work, to family, friends, partners, so many emotions - on top of physical and mental issues you can get. After so many years to just be like "Nah, man. Im done now" is really comforting to me. Dont take this as a 'I hate life 😠" kind of post. I certainly do not welcome death just yet, but when the time comes, i think i'll be okay with it. I might even be a little excited to know whats actually going on, on the otherside
Reincarnation is the same thing... Though being Isekai'd into another world with your original body intact just seems like being transported rather than being reborn...
I actually find a lot of comfort in 'nothing'. Life is hard, man. Living in itself is pretty exhausting a lot of the time. So many different things to juggle from education, to work, to family, friends, partners, so many emotions - on top of physical and mental issues you can get. After so many years to just be like "Nah, man. Im done now" is really comforting to me. Edit: Some people are taking this as a "I hate life" type beat. I DO NOT WANNA DIE YET LMAO
"Nothing" for me, is my greatest fear. I don't want my consciousness to disappear into the void of unbirth forever. I fear never being able to experience joy, laughter, pain, anger and sorrow again. I'll believe in anything, but the thought of nothing suffocates me.
@@inkchariot6147 this is why the human mind is so fascinating, we are all the same, yet so different at the same time. i would enjoy nothingness, because if there is something else after death, my life wouldn't have been unique, as i could just do everything i want after death
I've noticed a big hole in the "you stop existing forever" scenario: There was already a potentially infinite period of time where you didn't exist, which ended when you were born. If you return to the state you were in before birth after you die, what's stopping you from existing again?
Nothing, it's entirely possible you will be born again and the universe repeats itself in every possible way infinitely many times. Its an interesting question, is the length of time before our birth infinite or not? Is there some starting point or does time extend infinitely in both directions
It entirely matters on what makes you you. If you have a soul of sorts then it could reincarnate into anything eventually overtime. If its your brain that creates you then unless there's some sort of time loop in the universe itself or a brain happens to be built the exact same way and makes the same choices then probably not. I think most people who believe in nothingness also believe that the human conscience is just made up by evolution and life to give the living organisms choices and reactions as it allows the organism to make much more complex choices to increase its own and others in the same species life expectancy
@@mr.cauliflower3536 What makes you so sure of that? Obviously they won't have my identity and memories, but what's preventing them from having my consciousness? If my consciousness is something that once didn't exist, currently does exist and will go back to not existing when I die, then what's stopping it from coming into existence again?
That's exactly what I was thinking. If your memories are gone when you re in carnate, YOU are gone. There is literally NOTHING holding the 2 experiences together, therefore they are not the same at all.
The thing is that part of reincarnation tells you that there's a bit of your soul thats passed by to your next life so its not 100% true but not 100% false either
Or look at it this way, would you rather die, or lose all of your memories but are compensated with a billion dollars and a guarantee of a great long life ahead of you? I think most people would choose the latter. So at least a good case of reincarnation is more preferable than death.
Not completely, your essence/soul that reincarnates gains experiences. The soul doesn't forget, it's just in your current life you temporarily forget but all the experiences are still there.
The deprivation account is a strange concept as to why anyone would feel sorry for those who never existed? That really makes no sense at all. Interesting analysis on the possibilities. Enjoyed this.
Does the thought of dying in a plane crash frighten you? That's an example of what will in most cases be an instant death, that will occur faster than you can feel any pain
ehhhh there still would be the panic and sudden abrupt realization that you won't make it in time for next christmas with the fam. I guess there's some pain that doesn't have to be felt on a physical level. To my experiences usually, whenever I was fully expecting me to die I didn't feel the pain, just contempt, the pain slowly blended out of my mind, everything just got really bright, a couple of natural reactions the body would produce to physical trauma I suppose. @@todorstojanov3100
@@orbboom6119 well thats the point I think todorstojanov was alluding to.. essentially, if you say that “I’m scared of the moments before dying because of the fact that I’d know I’m 100% going to die” is simply just being scared of death and/or dying. Aka no distinction between the two unlike how the original commentator made it out to be. I think the reason most people seem to agree with you (and the original commenter) is due to the fact that (most) humans ARE deeply scared of death/dying but are scared to admit it consciously because in a way it makes it more “real”.
I mean I’d think it would be nice for a few years, but it kinda goes back to the immortality thing where even if you think you won’t get bored at any point you’ll most likely will but I’d be funny to do something like that ngl😅
Me too but I'd worry that I'd end up like being sort of thethered to one place (like the house I died in, or anywhere along one road that I was run over on). Like it would be significantly more boring if people just stopped going to the house I haunted, or worse it got knocked down and I still just had to chill there.
@@JuanRivera-xx4ifi actually think it would be cool to sit and watch time progress, see where humanity goes to while being a spectator to it all that isn't really affected (you are already dead and with time everyone you care about will be gone too so like in the grand scheme it would just be like watching humanity the movie). But yea the question then becomes what happens when everyones gone, then it all links back to immortality sucking again. I just recon you would get way more than a few years of entertainment if you were a ghost I guess, so long as your not just stuck in one localised area (like the house you died in for instance)
@@Aarchemist_ yeah I agree with you in that if you were stuck as a house I’d be like watching a movie, after all the house your stuck to will be torn, replaced or populated at some point, but now I’ve got a new variable to add,other ghost,if the after life as a ghost also had different ghost then I wonder how fun or disappointing that would be, it all depends on how you get along with that person if I had to guess,what is your take on that?
You forgot to talk about quantum immortality! I could be wrong about it, but my understanding is that it says this: There are an infinite amount of parallel universes, and consciousness cannot experience nonexistence, so since we are conscious right now, we will live forever. At the point of our death, our consciousness shifts to a different parallel universe where we didn't die, and it keeps doing that. This happens for every one, they all get "funelled" thru parallel universes into ones where we extend life expectancy into the hundreds, then reverse aging, then eventually become immortal.
I’d say the only issue with this is, how does it work, do we reincarnate to a universe where we lasted only a second longer, or into one where we don’t die in that instance, it also forms the issue of, what if I drowned, or exploded, or any other death that largely devastates me if that makes sense
@@chickendmac9085im guessing that everything that will make you die, wont happen, like being sick and staying home, a bus which you would’ve got on, explodes, there is a parallel universe where you got on, maybe there is a god where they pick out the timeline where you dont die, the path you are taking is the right path to immortality, maybe, if quantum immortality is right.
Why would people use quantum theory as a premise to more strange and bizzarre ideas that even religions were never be able to come up with? These theories have no scientific consensus, are based on an approximate knowledge of quantum physics (by people that talk about physics after seeing a 20 minutes kurzgesagt youtube video) and, most importantly, are unprovable. If we get to the point where inventing strange theories and making them sound scientific and smart becomes a way to cope with death, I'd rather believe in heaven, angels, karma or other fictional religious tales about life after death.
Hell reincarnation all types individualism matrix scenarios D C having goggles matrix thingy A would be heaven bliss peace joy or just sleeping like nothingness existence that is top their for me But then I've been through a living hell in alot of my past lives and the first half of this life so I suppose it depends on who the fk u ask think about that before saying reincarnation suffering all the time is top tier a hole
The fact that we can contemplate all of this but never figure it out is wild. It feels like being stuck in a game, not knowing how u got there but knowing that in the game u create games so u almost figure it out but not quite.
@@AndrewA23477 It's a perfect design. Whoever or however we were created, will always be too spectacular for our minds to ever comprehend. Maybe we will evolve a new ability or discover something that will lead to the answer. But it looks like that was designed OUT of the game (life).
I feel like a huge part of human history was erased, a lot of things we won't be able to learn or figure out, like the pyramids we still don't know how they were built
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life. I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.
I honestly and sincerely believe that it’s basically impossible to run out of things to do. By the time you get to do everything you can fathom right now, there will be entirely new experiences and knowledge that came into existence. Society is constantly changing, new knowledge is constantly being discovered and created. I genuinely think that there’ll always be some things out there that you haven’t experienced yet regardless of how much time you have
The human brain cannot possibly imagine the concept of infinity. If you have eternal life, you will live to see the destruction of everything you’ve ever loved and when you find something new, it’ll happen again at some point. The universe definately isn’t infinite which means that you will eventually run out of things to do
@@ThreeletterIGN yeah, I’ve thought about that before. To be honest, I can only have this perspective from the position of a mortal and can’t imagine infinity. Also, if I truly were to be immortal I’d probably eventually become jaded after repeatedly losing things. Even if there technically is more to discover, I might not have the energy or interest to discover it.
If you accept math as a possible argument strategy here: The amount of things (i.e. atoms) in the observable universe is finite. The ways you can combine finite things in any way are still finite, which means that if you consider a "new activity" to be rearranging the entire universe into all possible arrangements of atoms, you still run out of things to do in infinite time. Infinite is *really, really* big. Ofcourse, if you introduce finite memory into the equation, then yeah, you can experience new things all the time. And IMO assuming infinite memory is a bad assumption because at that point you fundamentally aren't human in any way shape or form. That is IMO a big of a weak point in the video.
@@ThreeletterIGN I'm not fully convinced that "The universe definately isn't infinite" I am legitimately curious what your argument is if you wouldn't mind indulging me.
I understand what you said about heaven, but “perfect place” and “no suffering” implies that eternity would never get bored and the pain of being immortal would not crop up.
I wouldn't take the offer to exist forever even if I get offered the chance to feel never ending euphoria like I'm on heroin 24/7. I'll take existence erasure over that any day, time before we were born is the true underdog in my eyes, I want that.
I honestly feel like our consciousness affects the universe around us, and i feel as though whatever happens to us in death is based on our belief system. If you believe in nothing, you will influence the universe with energy and become nothing, dust if you will. If you believe in an afterlife and die at peace with yourself you will experience heaven. If you die regretfully with dread and fear you will be stuck in that state forever in a loop (hell). Etc etc, you get the point.
Your theory presumes that we have a choice in the matter of what happens to us when we die. The reality is, most of us are fearful of death precisely because we have no say in what happens to us.
I was thinking about this theory for couple of months. Happy someone thinks about it too. I was wondering, if someone believes in reincarnation and stuff, after they become that other person after death, do they believe in the same thing? This would make our future self respoinsible for our total end.
About 12 times more crowded than earth is right now, assuming reincarnation is not a thing. If it is, then it's hard to take a guess without knowing if there's some kind of waiting period between dying and reincarnating and how long it typically is, if there's any, if you can only reincarnate as a human being and so on...
I mean, Hell is separation from God. So if it was true that there was no God, then this universe as we know it, is Hell. Which means we serve no purpose, have no meaning, and all of life is ultimately useless. It's either we blind ourselves with the pleasures of the world, or we accept the truth.
this video gave me five panic attacks and 3 existencial crises 10/10 would watch again edit:oh wow,a lot of people found me relatable,also fixed spelling error
If you manage to beat the game, you unlock a harder difficulty level, like a caste system in reverse. But if you beat it at the hardest difficulty, you unlock the *_~console_* so that you can play through again with access to the cheat codes.
Reincarnation is luckily stupid, free will is illusion and spiritual ppl charge exorbitant prices for their shit, no High IQ people believe in this nonsense. Karma is also nonsensical. How do you explain 2.6M years of human history and atrocities ppl did to each other?! That bad ppl are put there is also no argument: if you do this to others to punish them you are no better. Besides free will is nothing but persistent illusion as time, it evolved for survival of race! Animals murder and act sadistically like lion, or mouse toying with her pray and don't feel shame for it, why do ppl? Read Nietzsche! What scares me in infinite cosmos everything can happen eventually and this very life could repeat forever! THAT IS TRUE HELL. ALL ppl are scared and don't want to see this! As life can exist only based on lies - HOW TERRIBLE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!! scholarcommons.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=phi But if people don't take control over reality SUFFERING WILL LAST FOREVER and it is CLEAR we are fucked this civilization, and why would be still be here suffering if it was possible to counter?! LIFE IS LITERAL HELL AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T SEE IT 1. is retareded 2. has defensive mechanisms and his sub-consciousness protects him as life is terrible it can exist only based on lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I respect you for trying to be as uncontroversial as possible. Tackling something like this can be extremely challenging and can lead to many people upset
You wanna know what's a lot worse? The idea that you still retain your consciousness but you're trapped somewhere without form, no energy that will eventually rebuild structures, just black, infinite void
I mean, scary af. If it would happyn then it would be compleatly crazy. But if we're going into infinite void with NO form. Then we have no brain, no eyes, no toughts, no feelings. This is the thing that i was always wondering of. When we go to hell, do we keep our body that we suffer? How can we suffer without an body?
@@pansmieszek7254when i somehow can controll the universe when im dead i will take all the people that experience that stuff and save them so they can also create an universe
One of the defenses for an infinite Heaven that helps with my anxiety thinking about it is the idea that Right now, you are in the present and only experience the present. While you can imagine how long ago 10 years was and imagine when 10 years will come, it doesn’t effect you in the present. Those moments don’t exist anymore. Therefore you wouldn’t “feel” Immortality rather, you’d experience the present, always. Idk it’s a cool way of thinking about it
I literally thought of your present argument last night, what a coincidence. It kind of explains where we go to when we sleep and the fact that we don't remember sleeping when we wake up, same scenario for coma.
That's actually a good argument. You could also compare this to how God (if we are refering to the concept of God in abrahamic religions) is timeless, therefore his realm is too. So we wouldn't be experiencing existence in a linear way.
@@alonso4460 actually it is also consistent in a philosophical sense the fact that we can't really define now as in which instance this millisecond, microsecond, nanosecond, picosecond or any form of interval smaller than that. You can infinitely keep going smaller and this kind of confirms your statement of timelessness.
Also, eternity has the double meaning of being timeless, as in time just isn’t a thing there. Which would make sense and be consistent with many other spiritual things
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain. For me, the good part about existing is the positives of life. The good part of not existing, or being asleep forever, is being free from the negatives and suffering of life: all the anxiety, misery, stress etc. Me personally, I do kinda like the idea of just not existing, being asleep forever.
same thing here. Living is fine and all, I enjoy experiencing pleasure. And I do wish I had as much time in this mortal plane as I needed. But a big part of me does want there to be nothing after death. Living is exhausting, and existing eternally after death sounds even more exhausting, doesnt matter if its eternal pleasure or pain. I just want to rest, you know? And it's not like it would matter to me, cause in that scenario I wouldnt be ME anymore after dying. I wouldnt BE. Anything at all. Sounds comforting af. I dont want to be me eternally anyway.
I’m sorry for what you went through, I sympathize for you. But there is a reason that I am writing this, there is a feeling that you must to hear this. Jesus Christ Loves you so much that He died on the cross for your sins. And He rose from the dead. I Pray that you receive this message and start to live for Him. May you find Him and start to read The Bible! You can be made new because you can be covered in The Precious Blood Of Jesus Christ.
@@NunsggI normally love seeing genuine comments about God but I agree, bot comments that don’t relate to the original comment at all are definitely out of place.
A heavenly reincarnation, a new you every so often. Locked in an infinite loop of repeating the same actions forever, but you don't know it. Maybe you can extrapolate that this existence could be your own heaven/hell depending on how your life is going. It's on a loop that you forgot happened as soon as you die and are reborn. Would that be a heaven that makes you happy?
I honestly rather have nothingness then because that reality seems like i'm mindless in a machine. I think nothingness is simply better then heaven in general because there is no way I can remain happy with complete free will over my thoughts and memories
@@kyanite7843 Nothingness is not better than heaven lol. By definition heaven is perfect, and peaceful. You will be peaceful even with your free will because you will inherit gods knowledge and wisdom.
@@kereal2591 And what if I miss my loved ones? What if I know a loved one is in hell? Will inheriting gods knowledge erase my human emotions? Again, I don't desire any afterlife where I don't have free will over my thoughts and memories, if that is altered then I would rather have nothingness.
@@EDP-6000That just sounds like your no longer consciously aware. Most animals don’t perceive time because they aren’t conscious enough to notice time passing. So if what your saying is true. You would no longer hold thought or sense of self. Because if you did then you would be aware of time passing. If that’s an existence your okay with then by all means do you.
@@LucaGiovanni490 I wouldn’t say it’s a bad thing. If you are fine with giving up who you are for a eternal existence. Then like I said do you. It’s not much different than nothingness in the end. As for the point, it was just to explain the trade off for not being able to feel time pass.
I've got a theory I've always had in my mind. That we do jump realities (multiverse theory) but deja vu is where say, you go left. That person got hit by a bus or something and it dies, so you pop into a reality where you went right. When you get nitrus it also jumps you, but into a reality where there is a small difference in the world you end up in. The more times you go under, the farther you get from your OG reality, but can never tell a difference because it's so small it just seems like that's how it was.
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life. I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.
@@GojosTheGoat you both really missed one of the points of the video huh literally nothing can be proven or disproven regarding religion, the afterlife, etc because we have no way of knowing for certain. Belief in Jesus, God, Heaven, Hell, Buddha, Allah, nothing, etc is simply a belief that cannot be proven, and cannot be disproven
Reincarnation freaks me out because the majority of life is ended viciously. You would experience every torment. Think of all the most horrendous deaths there are. The people flayed alive, burned to death, tortured by terrorist groups. If you came back as a mouse, youd almost certainly get ripped apart by a predator.
yeah i had this tought too, and it kinda sucks, but think both ways not only bad stuff there, you would also expirience every joy that was there, every first love, every fullfilment, and also the best feeling ever that was there... the only question is, is it more bad stuff or good. depends on how we treat the world around us. if you look at it this way.... they say spread love. what goes around, comes around. Karma. It has something. makes sense
Came for a silly fun tier list, stayed for existential crisis. 10/10 Edit : Why tf is there a religious argument in replies??? It's not even connected to my comment
The biggest misconception with nothingness is that people tend to forget time, an infinite amount of time passes by at a blink of an eye because you no longer have any perception of time
This is the one thing that annoyed me with his view on heaven. It’s like when you read a good book, watch an exciting movie, play a great video game, hang out with your best friends just telling stories of when you were younger. Time zooms by because you’re having such a good time you are completely unaware of it. Ever went to a friends house and had such a blast you were upset you had to actually go to sleep or go back home? I view heaven in the same way. Life is literally just so great up there you can’t even comprehend time anymore. Then there is also the idea that the next life is in a total different dimension and time and the physics we’ve grown up to know just do not apply there.
@@lowk3ychris484even then, it's still existing for infinite time, it's essentially the same thing The comment is just wrong because in nothingness, you don't even exist, so there's no "different perception of time" there is no perception at all, unlike heaven.
@lowk3ychris484 true but if something goes on for ever It can't fly by. Going to a freinds house lasts a temporary amount of time, less than a day usually. Heaven lasts for ever, and there is literally no end. So there's no point where it ends and you can think back and think wow that flew by. At the same time, heaven is the definition of bliss, so I beleive it should be S tier because of that alone. Also who sais heaven has to be infinite bliss. Mabye negative emotions exists within it like sadness but these experiences ultimately lead to more bliss and a higher purpose, often hard experiences bring great meaning and happiness in the end. Heaven may be an emotional rollercoaster that results in great meaning and purpose at the end of it.
But here is the crazy part: Yes infinite amount of time can pass with, seemingly, a blink of an eye, kinda like how you sleep and feel like you wake up seconds after but a whole 8 hour sleep passed, but we only can feel this because once the day ends and we sleep, another day awaits us after, nothingness is ETERNAL nothing, so there is not even any perception of time skip and this is impossible to imagine how it feels, it's like the mind of living beings was never "programmed" to comprehend what infinite and nothing mean but this doesn't necessarily mean that infinite and nothing don't exist... For example we tend to think universe must have had a start and it should have an end, theories exist sure, but this doesn't solve anything...what if big bang is true and no god just made everything in an instant? Simple, you just move God one step behind big bang and say "well God caused big bang" if we find out the true source of big bang you can go "well then God caused the thing that caused the big bang" it's like we use "God" as explanation to what we don't know until we eventually know and move God one step behind that, our minds are DESPERATE to know a beginning and an end...but in objective reality why is this needed? Why do we think the concept of a god to explain the thought of "universe cannot be eternal"? And plus, let's say a god exists, doesn't he start from somewhere? If God is eternal it makes no sense for universe to not be able to also be eternal OR if universe truly isn't eternal it makes no sense why God also wouldn't be eternal... *See what I mean?* In few words we cannot imagine what nothing and infinite means especially when we talk about real observable things (extant or extinct, based on proof or based on logical assumptions) and we are desperate to think of an explanation (like God in this case) that is not seemingly real (in a sense weather we can observe it or not, not in absolute terms, God could be real) so we can dump what we cannot explain on that certain explanation we came up with...so confusing P. S. Please don't get mad at me for what I said about God, I used God as an example because it's a big philosophical uncertainty, I don't want to hurt anyone's beliefs or feelings
The thing about death that's so fascinating to me is genuinely how much we can theorize for literally the eternity about what comes after life, but yet as long as we live there never will be a true answer of what actually comes after death until we actually die and "see" for ourselves.
@@FantasieMeneersolid chance there’s nothing. Or else why wouldn’t anyone from any of these hundreds of religions made contact and said “I’m still here this is what happens.” Growing up is just coming to terms with this. Religion for people is like Santa for kids. You don’t want ruin it for them but you know it’s ridiculous and fake. Or maybe I’m wrong in which case we can have dinner in the next life.
In my eye, we actually can see it. A lot of this kinda go offs the assumption of the "one with everything" scenario. My basic "proof" is for you to point to reality for proof there is a seperate "I/me/myself", not to speak concepts or ideas about, and we will find we point at the same universe, the same reality. As Buddhists put it we are all one "Tathata", which literally (and likely most directly) means "That!", but according to other translations it means "One thousand things, one suchness". And we are that. You are it. And so this universe has one suchness, one energy. And it is a common pattern of energy to be comprised of an on/off system, of the crests and troughs we find in waves. No matter if it is the trough or the crest, the on or the off, alive and dead, it is still part of that energy. It is as the poem "Immortality" written by Clare Harner (most likely): "Do not stand at my grave and weep, I am not there, I do not sleep", meaning that our real self, our true self, does not cease, it merely is on its trough.
@@heylooka so you think we become one with the universe? Like some Star Wars force bullshit basically? I mean I don’t want to sound ignorant but that’s what I gathered. Although I think it’s flawed logic because every intelligent life would correctly categorize a universe as an all encompassing presence. So the idea that all of them came to the same conclusions kinda means nothing to me.
The idea of dying doesn't bother me nearly as much as when I was 25. As I age that is just more time to grow accustomed to the facts of life and death. So it really isn't something to worry about. By the time you get old and crusty, you won't really care. Even without an afterlife of some sort to comfort you, the idea of not existing at all, in any way becomes a comforting thought.
If we die into nothingness, then we wouldn’t know we don’t exist and that means we don’t know that we don’t know we exist, so basically not existing is a paradox, that’s crazy.
death is so terrifying for me because the thought of not being terrifies me, which is terrifieng to me because not existing after already having expierinced consciousness is the frightening part
Do not worry. If you blink back to nonexistence, you will not feel a thing. You were nothing for eons before you were forced to exist by the selfishness of others. Being nothing never bothered you. It could not have bothered you because you had no consciousness. This is exactly why I want to return to nothingness. Nothing could have ever gone wrong. But then, nothing could have ever gone right, as well. I have lots of complaints and dislikes about existing. I had none about not existing. I want to be nothing again so much that I sometimes think about expediting the process.
Now imagine after you death it's all blankness, you can't see nothing and hear nothing, yet your consciousness is still existing, you are still thinking but you're stuck in this eternity of nothingness. That'd really suck and is 1000x more terrifying. Simply stop existing doesn't sound so bad in comparison
I've thought of something similar to the last one, like once we die, we just wake up as a small kid with no memory, and then just live life as it was. It's like we are constantly waking up.
Immortality is only terrifying to me if there is a finite amount of things we could do. If there was a infinite amount of things we could do, then it wouldn't really be all that bad.
@@kani-licious Well, it would depend on how much pain and suffering there is. If the afterlife is anything like hell where there is constant suffering and pain for all eternity then yeah it'd be pretty awful. But if there was only small amounts of it here and there, then it isn't that bad. What I've come to realize is that immortality isn't inherently a bad thing, rather it is the circumstances that can change that. If the right circumstances occur, then immortality can be good.
@@smugism1685if there was anything for an infinite amount of time wouldnt it be…normal? Like if youre in “eternal torture” forever, eventually you dont even know anything else but that, making it the new normal anyway. Same thing for eternal happiness.
i have theory that with someone living an infinite amount of time they would eventually gain so much knowledge and wisdom given enough time they would be able to do anything possible, create new worlds, keep other people immortal, stop any issues in the universe, basically anything imaginable. thus it would benefit to take the offer on immortality even if you have to deal with living longer than loved ones
@@pnut3844able you cant be unhappy in heaven and in heaven u arent human its just ur soul so u will never feel bored meaningless or angry or any bad emotion
@@Nox692Its just a loop tho. What happens next? We have no goal?its a very simplistic life imo. My true satisfaction and happeness are my goals. Guess we cant really comprehend it fully since we are "tainted" by sin and "lost" our "holy" traits. Reincarnation is by far my favourite tho. Being able to be a whole nother person with goals and traits seems fun.
@@jpmedina8328 yeah no ur wrong and its not subjective heaven Isn't like earth you wont feel time you wont want to sin you wont feel bored you couldnt imagine a better life and its unending you wont feel like you want to do more in heaven there is no downside period we humans cant imagine it like a new dimension or colour just cuz u cant imagine it being good doesnt mean its bad
I've probably spent every other night panicking about these ideas for the last 20 years, so having it framed in this inherently comedic way, is kind of relieving. It's a little less worth worrying about. I also really appreciate seeing other people thinking the same things, makes me feel a little less insane. So thank you for this video.
Jesus Christ loves you and died for your sins, everyone sins and deserves hell but Jesus (God) came to earth and died for our sins, paying for them, believe and be Saved
Just dont worry about death, worry obout living remebering you're going to die, so make it count, be kind, love, experience. good or bad is yours to get trough. and get ready for death no matter what comes after, even if its nothing.
My barber had a crazy story of him dying because he had a heart attack then when he went to the hospital the doctors and nurses said he literally died for 5 minutes then i asked him what did you see he said "Bright lights and very peaceful "
His heart 'died,' but his brain was still functioning-that's not death, it's more like a near-death experience. He may have been hallucinating as the blood stopped reaching his brain or other chemical stuff may be happening in between, but there was still oxygen. He was saved, but he had never truly been dead. When your heart stops, you aren't necessarily dead. When your brain stops, that's when death occurs. It’s inevitable
Yep and also the fact that know one can claim to know the truth before they die. So the best course of action would be to select the best most convenient after-life and keep on believe in it i guess
@@Shaunshahriar in Bulgaria we have several clairvoyant people who say just this. Slava Sevryukova for example claims that you get what you believe. She was once visited by a woman who insisted she's talking to an alien from some planet, Sevryukova told her she wasn't. It was the spirit of a young male who died suddenly in a car accident. While he was alive he believed himself to be an alien from that planet so when he died this is what his spirit lived out. For that reason Sevryukova, who was religios, explicitly cautioned against believing in hell and eternal damnation, devils etc
You would never get bored. Just consider the argument that starts at 4:26 about all the possible people there could ever be. You could go 1 by 1 through the lives of those people, living just their best bits. Then jump to the next. It's infinite people, but all unique experiences. (and crucially GOOD unique experiences, if you get some heavenly divine intervention to help you dodge the bad parts) So you'd never get bored, and you would always be happy. - That's my S tier.
I think heaven will be getting better and better since not only that everyone have endless possibilities to do what they want but also whatever is there that we are yet to see there
@@mp4archieve921in the Islamic definition if Heaven, let say you took a bite out of a mango. Each suceeding bite tastes better than the previous. We cannot argue that "at a certain point we'll get tired of it", because it's limitless.
This is almost worse. If going to Heaven alters your psychology to trick you into enjoying it when naturally you wouldn't. That's very insidious and manipulative. Then it becomes only an illusion. Like what the people plugged into the Matrix experience (in the matrix movies)
@@user-KNP13 Fate is a movie, King Crimson cuts some of it. The event didn't happen from the user's perspective, so [KING CRIMSON!] during erased time. After the ending of cut time everyone [KING CRIMSON!] memory wipe effect is unknown. SO IT JUST WORKS, BABY!
@@user-KNP13 Think that 1 Futurama episode where time skips forward but 1 guy remembers what happened in the middle, the skips are only 10 seconds, they choose when they happen and get a preview of what will happen in the skip.
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life. I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.
Not really, he missed a few key points. Reincarnation would be no different than nothingness/ceasing to exist. Because YOU wouldn’t be continuously experiencing new things as a new being, you’d have no recollection of your past lives. So you, yourself, would still cease to exist. Also I don’t believe in the simulation, but if it were to be the case, it would not in fact suck because if we are in one, it’s clearly detailed and real enough to live and experience a normal life. So who cares if nothing was “real”, if things like love, fun, fear, friendship, etc can be simulated as well as they currently “are”, then who cares if it’s not real.
@@koufanking2703 Correct, and since nobody on this Earth including ourselves, remembers anything of a past life as another person or animal, we know that that's not how it works. People just need to get a grip with there being nothingness at the end. It's not going to suck, you won't be able to have emotions to think it sucks, there will be nothing.
My perfect hypothetical afterlife would be “Sandbox Mode.” A blank universe, and the power to do absolutely anything with it. Similar to heaven since both are eternal, but you are given far more freedom. You could replicate any story you’ve ever read and make it reality. You could live as one of the characters. Maybe create an original world, even. Make friends, do magic, be badass. I should mention, omnipotence means the ability to not get bored, so that won’t be a problem, either. Basically, I want infinite adventure. Where would you rank this?
the only thing that scares me about death is the possibility of being separated from those i love, but if i can spend my postmortem existence with those people, thats all i hope for
In the heaven argument there is a flaw: in the Christian heaven you are in communion with God, a being out of time, so it would be an “eternal present” with no sense of time, because time exists in the world, not in the Christian afterlife
I think its more a question of if its possible for such a thing to even exist. Time is basically just a concept of things moving forward. If something exists then there has to be time. Even if everything is staying completely still. There is time.
@@knellycornnan5132 also time is a concept or an illussion, lets say if u can stop time and ur the only one who are not affected by time stopping u will still age without time
I like to believe that, in afterlife, you are basically in your own personal world. You can shape it into any form, forge any kind of events happening in it. You can even simply create an exact replica of the world you died in. And you can do whatever you want in this world: actively live in it or watch from the side. I like this concept
I think “heaven” needs a rethink, because there is also the consideration that death is the process of moving from the finite state into an infinite state (not just immortal, but access to infinity, and infinite things) you couldnt possibly get bored of infinity because theres no end to the ‘new’ discoveries
From my point of view (I’m a Christian btw) heaven isn’t just like living this life forever. Fix can literally make ANYTHING. Heaven isn’t just a place where you float in clouds
There's another problem, the idea of boredom is a physical idea, so it's likely that in a place like a heaven, boredom wouldn't even be a concept we'd have to worry about, what we loved about something would be there forever.
Yeah, why we will never get bored of endless worship is because the wonder and the love of God is infinite. There will always be more things where we will be in awe of God.
We are all the same consciousness. Moving from one experience to another. Forward and backwards in time. We are all the same. I am you, you are I. Be nice to yourselves
Man this is one of the best ways ive ever seen to talk about the afterlife/philosophy, its calm and respectful, taking it as philosophy first, not focousing on how "possible" something is or not. I really think more things should be discussed like this, especially because i love the dissonance between having a deep talk about nothingness and cutting to "So I put nothingness in b tier" and tbh it kinda helps to avoid getting dragged into the topics too much and habing an existencial crisis, because like, lets be honest, non existence truly is a b tier option.
Yea I wouldnt mind non existence, its not as great as being isekaid by a truck and gaining magical powers but its not bad either, id accept it. No more suffering for me? Hell yeah!
the reason why nothingness is comforting to me is because after i die, i will not exist to contemplate anything. its not like i’ll be in eternal darkness, or that ill be deprived of experience, because i’ll cease to exist, and therefore cease experiencing anything. that would be fundamentally impossible. it’s just the end, but that’s a good thing
i know, having been raised christian i believe (i think 😔) in the existence of heaven but it’s always scared me. so much. i just can’t fathom there never being an END. i almost feel like i would ask god to end it because that sounds better than just BEING in perfection for eternity. but if my brain was perfect would i WANT to be me forever? i don’t know. you don’t care. i almost had a panic attack thinking about it i guess ill find out when i die.
Perhaps because you are currently a person who thinks that eternal life is a problem because you are not accustomed to it. When you become perfect, I think you will not have such desires. I believe that God is perfect and has a perfect plan that satisfies everyone. A pantheistic end seems more logical than Christian @@jellyfrogfish
I wrote a poem about the theme of a child's nonexistence, and in English, it goes something like this: "A child I never had, is one who met demise? Merciful for sparing him from death, or a cruel murderer for denying life’s prize. Which of these two am I?"
🎉Jesus christ loves you, his coming back soon repent and believe for he died on the cross for us to have ever lasting life. I can suggest marc the messenger and Daniel Adam's supernatural life.♥️🇺🇲🐑
okay so i was suicidal and i always thought that it was nothingness and that ill be in peace.Then i met this old woman who i got into a conversation with told me " okay after you die and if it nothing its good, what if you have an afterlife? can you undo what you did? " and those.words really got me thinking..
Because that women was trying to give you a second chance to find Jesus. Do you know how many of his following witnessed his resurrection? How many were willing to die brutal deaths attesting his place on the holy trinity?
That kind of thinking is pointless because you can never know what are the choices you were supposed to make until afterward. What if causing harm to even the smallest of insects already makes you a bad person? And what if all sinners are treated the same regardless of the sin, be it murder of another man or inconveniencing a bug. The what-ifs themselves will make you unable to do the right choices. In the end it doesn't matter if there is an afterlife or what kind of afterlife it is. For we will all find out - only in the end.
@@Igobybrawled because it is, life is best described as a video game, best way to live life is also like as if its a video game, game over you start again.
My thoughts exactly. The guy also forgot to add in the fact that his understanding of Heaven is flawed and human…Heaven is said to be utterly inconceivable. It may seem like it would get tiring and dull eventually, however, there may just be something , which we cannot hope to grasp right now, that will cause us to never want to leave. Think God’s eternal love for example
Because in the loop you don't truly experience eternity, you are never aware of how many times you looped or if you are looping at all, to that end its basically the same as your post-mortem being nothingness
All the Last four beliefs actually exist in different hindu school of thought in some forms. *One with everything is core philosophy of Hinduism.* Reincarnation and simulation hypothesis also exist in hindu philosophy. In indra net,each pearl creates another infinite pearls and upper reality sees the lower reality as dream or fiction.
@CristosAnesti312 the not understandable concepts like gods unending love or whatever is completely meaningless to us even if you delude yourself into finding something in it so the argument isnt really valid but i do agree that heaven is meant to be a place where suffering or boredom doesnt exist
hot take but being a ghost is my favorite possibility in this video, I’d like to just spectate life going on forever and go wherever I would want to go
Darwinism does not provide an explanation for how the world started. It only explains how the various species on earth came about, and how they have chanhed over time.
That makes little sense to me. World did not started with Adam and Eve in the Genesis, but God created it from nothing. Big bang theory is also material world from nothing. Darwinism does not have anything to do with it.
@@johnsonfromml8662 Evolution and the big bang are two completely different options that cover two different subjects. They just both happen to be true.
@@johnsonfromml8662 both of those options can exist inside the third option of this being a simulation and when I say simulation, meaning multiple energies existing at the same time converging into one. One being this present, One being our future, One being our end when the universe inevitably dies out. It's all connected🌀
Jesus Christ loves you and died for your sins, everyone sins and deserves hell but Jesus (God) came to earth and died for our sins, paying for them, believe and be Saved
I just kinda wanna float around and watch the world go by, not interfering, but simply watching. It’s a comforting notion to me given the inevitability of death.
I don't think nietzche really believed in it. But it has a lot of good implications. Think about it. Nietzsche is proposing that we should live our libes they way that's so incredible that I wouldn't mind living it again. It's like a rollercoaster that's is so good that you rid like 10x. Or a movie that you watch again even though you know what happens...
This. Some people aren't lucky w their childhood and from then on it's hard to change your life to "yes I want that forever". If I'd live this life forever I'd rather just be reincarnated into a bug.
@@matmolin Nietzsche was into amor fati so that's what he meant with eternal recurrence was to love your fate without the allure for a different life nor afterlife. Kinda bleak but understandably so as he may've been responding to the irrationality of Romanticism in his time.
i don't fear death. i fear no longer being human, becoming something more abstract or lesser. because all things considered this level of intelligence and awareness is kind of awesome.
@getcha2014 right on schedule here comes this lame nigga trynna pretend everything around his low intellect low income ass is corny.😂😂 get your diploma then talk lil bro
i actually had a weird afterlife theory, where you never die, and the closer to death you get, the slower time is. untill time is so slow, it pretty much stops. i also had another theory where in your prespective, you litteraly never die, and you live forever, and become some diety i guess. edit: its actually not really an after life theory if you think about it
reincarnation is like life in rogue-like mode. and the claim that some people are able to retain memories from previous lifes is analogous to the bonuses you normally get when starting a new run right after finishing one. definitively one of the greatest alternatives available, highly recommend.
Damn Reincarnating as a guy who hates what I love now breaks my heart ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ That said, experiencing sex earlier with a more attractive guy makes me want to be reincarnated as my opposite 🗿
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The eternal loop is usually an explanation of why we get Deja vu, we live our lives over and over and on rare occasions we get Deja Vu on our past lives in the current ''loop''.
Bingo. We are made up of mostly water, water is the only liquid that can retain its own memory. Now what’s the brain mostly made up of? Water. We live on a loop, waiting to unlock the secret that allows us to be free after our existence.
deja vu comes coz ur other half of the brain processes the same thing couple microseconds later than the other :) everything can and will be explained by science but yet there are still people that believe in this type of bs and make up shit coz they dont know the facts...
