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The Aircraft Design that Took the World by Storm 

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The squadron of Saab J29 Tunnans swiftly took to the skies. Despite their age, the Swedish pilots took great pride in these venerable aircraft. Also known as the Flying Barrel, it was the first successful post-World War 2 jet fighter to feature a swept wing design, and it remained a formidable force when used in the Republic of Congo in 1961.
Although the jungle terrain of the African country differed significantly from the cold, misty mountains of Scandinavia, the Tunnan had no trouble executing United Nations missions over the war-torn Congolese skies.
As they descended to a lower altitude, the squadron of Swedish Tunnans approached their target and unleashed their AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles upon the enemy.
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@Jimbotheone
@Jimbotheone Год назад
I saw one of them fly in Linköping yesterday. 32 Lansen, 35 Draken, 37 Viggen, and 39 Gripen as well. They put up a good show!
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
@DEATH-THE-GOAT Год назад
Lyckost! 😉
@vincenttorna8698
@vincenttorna8698 Год назад
wow
@drzoidnilsson73
@drzoidnilsson73 Год назад
Wow - there is still at least one flying then. I wondered some months ago if there wasn't some kept in flying mode but thought there wasn't any. Very nice that there is at least one. (my father was loader mechanic of Tunnan and Lansen and since he was born he thus he was put in the reserve already 4 y after military service since the newer planes took over)
@MegaGronis
@MegaGronis 7 месяцев назад
1 year ago i was in Linköping and i saw a sk 60 flying over their residence.
@SanoyNimbus
@SanoyNimbus Год назад
At least one of the Tunnan from Congo was returned to Sweden ... and is in a storage at the Flygvapenmuseum in Linköping (Air Force Museum), the home town of SAAB ... It is put on kind of a display mode in the storage, so sometimes special visitors can have access to it. Unfortunately for the museum the bullet holes on the aircraft was patched ...
@RhINO4711
@RhINO4711 Год назад
The J29 at Flygvapenmuseum is not one that flew in Congo, or at least that's what the guide told me, it is painted as one though.
@K.O-Oskar
@K.O-Oskar Год назад
im going there this summmer
@stettan1
@stettan1 Год назад
I saw the only airworthy Tunnan fly in a little airshow at the Saab factory four days ago. Lovely❤
@Colaflaskan_
@Colaflaskan_ Год назад
I sat in that exact plane you are talking about once, and yes, it flew for the UN and was patched.
@iommi88
@iommi88 Год назад
Trollhättan is the home town of SAAB though.
@danko6582
@danko6582 Год назад
The Swedish military aerospace industry has always had the advantage of not being undermined by either the British or Canadian parliaments.
@chriswandatownley1
@chriswandatownley1 Год назад
Or United States Generals!
@DMSparky
@DMSparky Год назад
That could be said for most things here in Canada…
@infeedel7706
@infeedel7706 Год назад
Sveridge made great engineers, they batted way above their weight for so many years. tbh, it was a great country to visit. One needs a fat wallet to visit there though, but hat may have changed with all the de-culturing over the last 15-20 years.
@infeedel7706
@infeedel7706 Год назад
661 units in the 60s, put some perspective on that given Sweden's population...
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 Год назад
@@infeedel7706 that’s practically one per person!
@joemcsilver8098
@joemcsilver8098 Год назад
Here in Austria there was an old J29 set on a children's playground. As a kid is was amazing for me to sit in this plane.
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY Год назад
Fun fact about the 20mm kanon is still in service of swedish military today. First on that PV302 and now days on the patria 6x6
@sirjohndough8575
@sirjohndough8575 Год назад
`Tunnan` is pronounced with a short `u`, not a long one. Emphasis is on the double N´s. However the J 29 was partially known as the widowmaker, due to the large number of crashes during low level flight manoeuvres. Low level flying has long been a hallmark of the Swedish Air force. A classmate of mine had lost his father in one such an accident with the J 29.
@webtoedman
@webtoedman Год назад
In English a "Tun" is an archaic term for a large barrel of standard size and capacity. A ship's "Tunnage" was the number of barrels it could accomodate. Related languages, I presume.
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 Год назад
Soooo… they’re not very good at it. I see.
@flexairz
@flexairz Год назад
@@Frankie5Angels150 And the aircraft is flawless?
@Vermiliontea
@Vermiliontea Год назад
@@webtoedman From old Norse, I suppose? A lot of English language is Viking lingo, other is Latin, and old French.
@Cythil
@Cythil Год назад
@@Frankie5Angels150 During those days, Swedish pilots (as well as in many other nations) often push planes far more than we would do today. So you see quite a lot of planes crash during the Cold War era you would today. So a large part of that was more due to reckless flying than the plane's characteristics. Though there are also quite a lot of planes from the Cold War era which where hard to fly. Many planes known as widowmakes out there. (Just to name a few. F-104 was known as widowmaker. Most likely the best known widowmaker. And MiG-21 was also known as that or had smilier flattering nicknames. And there planes where not bad per say. Indeed there some of the most well produced jet fighters.)
@mathiassvensson7911
@mathiassvensson7911 Год назад
As a kid, my father went on a schooltrip to a mountain, in the valley below a couple of J29:s came flying and blew up an old bridge with rockets! Pretty cool!
@theregnarute
@theregnarute Год назад
hur känns det att veta att du kommer att bli tvungen att bli muslim om max 20 år? var det värt det att vara feminist, så att alla kvinnor skulle förråda dig och ta hit miljoner inkräktare? inget samhälle finns om det samhället inte följer guds lagar.
@confusedson
@confusedson Год назад
[1:35] "Storm Bird" (or Sturmvogel in German) was actually the name for the ME-262 Figher Bomber variant. The original Fighter version was "Swallow" (Schwalbe in German).
@GrizzAxxemann
@GrizzAxxemann Год назад
The Dark Team have a habit for making all kinds of mistakes. Always treat their "documentaries" as being incorrect in a lot of aspects.
@greengoblin876
@greengoblin876 Год назад
@@GrizzAxxemann Yup , not so much factual or fictional more like FICTUANAL ..
@OidHunter
@OidHunter Год назад
Thanks for the info
@Niinsa62
@Niinsa62 Год назад
I believe Sturmvogel (Storm Bird) is German for some kind of species of albatross. So just as Schwalbe/Swallow, a very good flier. Very fitting name for that plane! On a side note, the FW190 Würger, or Butcher Bird. The German name just means Shrike. Which is also called a Butcher Bird in English. But not in German, in German it is just a Würger (Shrike). Some of those German planes have names that sound so much more evil in English translation, than they actually sound in the German original. :-)
@hyfy-tr2jy
@hyfy-tr2jy Год назад
@@Niinsa62 not Albatross. Petrel, which there is a species called a "Storm Petrel" which would be where the "Storm Bird" derives from.
@captaincurd2681
@captaincurd2681 Год назад
The reason I love this jet is that it is a very cute looking plane.
@chrischamberlaine4160
@chrischamberlaine4160 Год назад
Your research is systematic as usual but your delivery is designed to get hits rather than convey correct historical data. The J29 did not 'take the world by storm' - BS The old chestnut about the Me262 being the first swept wing fighter is WRONG. It had a 14 degree sweep to correct a CofG problem designed in before sweep was generally accepted - AS EVERYBODY KNOWS. According to you the DC3 would be the first swept wing airliner - WOW! The Tunnen had a 25 Degree sweep which was very modest and gave it a MCrit of 0.85 - about the same as the Tempest and the Me262. The F86, DH Swallow,and the early Supermarine prototypes had 40 degrees. The J29 was still in prototype form in 1950. It was a competent effort based on information from Switzerland in respect of German research. It did not suffer from the disastrous faults of the Me1101 because the aerodynamic and thrust lines were properly aligned and the tail empennage volumes were bigger. So you hype incorrect information and regurgitate stuff which is well known to proper researchers. In this way you distort history. I am an aviation historian and writer dedicated to facts not the regurgitation of mythology. 5/10 - try again.
@rockoorbe2002
@rockoorbe2002 Год назад
Maybe do your own videos and show us the facts. C'mon troll. We will wait.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Год назад
The Germans were way behind the British in jet engine and plane technology.
@davidaxman
@davidaxman Год назад
In the 50's on average 21 pilots died each year during risky and harsh training regimes. An insane death rate compared to other nations. My grandfather worked as a mechanic on the J29 and each year someone he knew died.
@dthomas9230
@dthomas9230 Год назад
Ejection seats were not installed yet? Or didn't work properly?
@fallout44454
@fallout44454 Год назад
​@@dthomas9230No it was because the pilots flew at treetop level in pitch blackness, there are stories of planes returning with pieces of trees stuck in their undercarriage.
@BattIeFrog
@BattIeFrog Год назад
@@dthomas9230 As the other guy said it was due to extremely risky training exercises and it was for almost the entire cold war not just the 50s and the j29. The goal was to train as if it was real and fly low and fast especially at night meaning alot of incidents were due to hitting water/trees or other obstacles due to this, tragic yes but also excellent for keeping the airforce in a good ready state.
@heikos4264
@heikos4264 Год назад
@@fallout44454 stuck in an undercarriage which is inside the plane during flight...
@Battlebertill
@Battlebertill Год назад
My grandfather was a mechanic on this plane when he did his military service.
@jeanmacdobea2614
@jeanmacdobea2614 Год назад
THAT PLAN "THE BARREL" ONE OF TWO BEST SWEDISHPLANE IN MY OPINION .." AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL ..
@johninnh4880
@johninnh4880 Год назад
I've never seen one of these innovative jet aircraft. Live and learn. Your videos are highly informative and are some of my favorites.
@Trajking
@Trajking Год назад
We have one still flying in Sweden
@hidden_matrixgaming
@hidden_matrixgaming Год назад
Sadly these videos have a lot of false information.
@alex_the_balding_fat_man
@alex_the_balding_fat_man Год назад
Not convinced they used AIM-9Bs in the Congo. The aircraft were chiefly targeting ground targets using unguided missiles. The AIM-9 Sidewinder series is an air to air missile.
@markmuir7338
@markmuir7338 Год назад
Came here to say the same thing. I wonder what aircraft the Congo had...
@deez_noots
@deez_noots Год назад
​@@markmuir7338 George of the Jungle was a formidable pilot, with 6 confirmed air to air kills during his time in the Congo.
@CachingCadre
@CachingCadre Год назад
I caught that comment too, and wondered about its inclusion. Additionally, I wasn't aware that the AIM 9s were available to forces outside of US and British forces.
@colinleitch6245
@colinleitch6245 Год назад
why would anyone use an air to air missile on a ground target?
@wellshutchins6885
@wellshutchins6885 Год назад
@@colinleitch6245 Especially a heat seeker
@swedishfarmboy
@swedishfarmboy Год назад
Did know a old tunnan pilot, he did love the plane.
@richardjonsson1745
@richardjonsson1745 Год назад
During the Kongo campaign (22 UN Fighter Sqn), it's not very likely that the Sidewinder was used much. The majority of the work was ground support and attack of enemy airbases, where most enemy planes were destroyed on the ground. I venture that the ordnance used was mostly rockets, bombs and cannon. (Edit; You actually state in your video that it's the F model, introduced in -63, that could carry the AIM-9. No F models were deployed in Kongo and the wing was disbanded in early -63. Two planes returned to Sweden, the rest scrapped on site.)
@alfaDude156
@alfaDude156 Год назад
Yea, the J29s in Congo were early models J29B, and later on two S29C reconnaissance were added as well. No Sidewinders but ARAK, Rockets for ground attack as shown in the video, and the 4 20mm guns were used for buildings, road vehicles, trains and other targets with good effect on target. During they height of production, one J29 rolled off the "assembyline" at Saab in Linköping every day.
@fload46d
@fload46d Год назад
1939---the Germans had the jump on everybody. The Saab looks just as good as the Mig or anything the other countries had.
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 Год назад
The Germans were always ahead. If history is any guide…the only way to beat them is to outnumber them.
@chriswandatownley1
@chriswandatownley1 Год назад
The German Jet development was off the work, which the Pommy bureaucracy whose immagination Failed Britton for a long time, of Sir Frank Whittle, a truely great engineer, whith classic doggedness!
@drstrangelove4998
@drstrangelove4998 Год назад
@@chriswandatownley1some common sense at last here Chris, I agree.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Год назад
@Joseph Kretschmer Hans von Ohain, the leading German jet engineer, wrote a very comprehensive foreword in the 'Elements of Propulsion, Gas turbines and Rockets'. In that foreword he states: _"The first patent of a turbojet engine, which was later developed and produced, was that of_ *_Frank Whittle, now Sir Frank._* _His patent was applied for in January 1930. This patent shows a multistage, axial-flow compressor followed by a radial compressor stage, a combustor, an axial-flow turbine driving the compressor, and an exhaust nozzle. Such configurations are still used today..."_ and _"From the beginning of his jet propulsion activities, Frank Whittle had been seeking means for improving the propulsive efficiency of turbojet engines. He conceived novel ideas for which he filed a patent application in 1936, which can be called a bypass engine or turbofan. To avoid a complete new design, Whittle sought an interim solution that could be merely "tacked on" to a jet engine. This configuration was later known as the aft fan. Whittle's work on fan jets or bypass engines and aft fans was way ahead of his time. It was of greatest importance for the future or turbopropulsion."_ and _"In April 1937, Whittle had his bench-test jet engine ready for the first test run. It ran excellently; however, it ran out of control because liquid fuel had collected inside the engine and started to vaporize as the engine became hot, thereby adding uncontrolled fuel quantities to the combustion process. The problem was easily overcome._ *_This first test run was the world's first run of a bench-test jet engine operating with liquid fuel."._*
@Conn653
@Conn653 Год назад
LOVE your presentations! Always packed with great info. 🙂
@andersnilsson7917
@andersnilsson7917 Год назад
The R in 21R stood for "Reaktion propulsion", an early Swedish name for jet propulsion. And the J in J29 stands for Jakt, or Pursuit in English.
@antarktis2851
@antarktis2851 Год назад
Worth noting that "reaplan", short for "Reaktionsplan" is still a commonly used term for jet plane here in Sweden.
@boringpolitician
@boringpolitician Год назад
@@antarktis2851 - Aha! Jag har aldrig tänkt över vad det faktiskt står för. Hmh. Tack!
@Fuhrerjehova
@Fuhrerjehova Год назад
Jakt would in this context be just translated to fighter. It was a fighter aircraft mainly designed for A2A combat.
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Год назад
It looks very like an Aircraft that Kurt Tank had on his drawing board developed to prototype level.
@chrisgastis5535
@chrisgastis5535 Год назад
I thought that too
@Coyote27981
@Coyote27981 Год назад
Ta-183 Argentine Pulqui 2 (1950) was designed jointly by Kurt Tank (with his team of former Focke Wulf employees) and the Argentine team, ironically with a Rolls-Royce Nene II jet engine.
@albonyo
@albonyo Год назад
​@@Coyote27981 pulquis 2
@Coyote27981
@Coyote27981 Год назад
@@albonyo no S, Pulqui. It means arrow head in Mapuche.
@drstrangelove4998
@drstrangelove4998 Год назад
It was like the Bell, and the Yak jet!
@hulagu3068
@hulagu3068 Год назад
that is the cutest little airplane like an advance war plane sprite.
@effervescentrelief
@effervescentrelief Год назад
That P.1110 had a ruddervator. Way ahead of its time.
@shauny2285
@shauny2285 Год назад
Similar to the V-tailed Beechcraft Bonanza?
@antonioesposito8071
@antonioesposito8071 Год назад
@@shauny2285 yes
@battleaxe51
@battleaxe51 Год назад
Look at the Focke Wulf Ta 183.
@studentstudent5044
@studentstudent5044 Год назад
Sweden has always been a very impressive country in everything they do❤️🇸🇪
@klausschwabbler
@klausschwabbler Год назад
fun fact: austrian airforce used them in the 1960s, some former luftwaffe me262-pilots from austria flew them. when they were made obsolete, one saab was placed in front of the barracks nearby where i grew up. as kids we played there and even sat in the cockpit, as it was not locked. it is now in a private museum
@franzobernosterer2557
@franzobernosterer2557 Год назад
Ja, in Goisern , wenn ich mich recht erinnere und eine in Zeltweg
@joemcsilver8098
@joemcsilver8098 Год назад
​@@franzobernosterer2557 In der Ramsau bei Schladming stand auch eine.
@alfaDude156
@alfaDude156 Год назад
And then you got the best thing ever built, the J35 :)
@datamek
@datamek Год назад
Worth to mention swedish types designations: J- " jakt" ( fighter) JA " jakt, attack" ( fighter bomber) S - " spaning" ( recon)
@randomizer3024
@randomizer3024 Год назад
Can't wait to hear about this Aicraft, seems very cool. I like Aicraft.
@skunkbucket9408
@skunkbucket9408 Год назад
5:41 How does making the wings thinner increase thrust? Sure, it would reduce drag, which would help make the most of the existing thrust, but it wouldn't create more.
@paulkelk5142
@paulkelk5142 Год назад
the Gloster Meteor flew operationally during World War 2 flying against V1 flying bombs and some ground attack missions over continental europe
@arkie14
@arkie14 Год назад
Don't think it flew ground attack missions- the RAF were forbidden flying it over German-held territory lest it be shot down and salvaged.
@paulkelk5142
@paulkelk5142 Год назад
@@arkie14 616 squadron moved to holland at Gilze-Rijen in late 1944 and flew some reconnaisance and ground attack missions there were painted white so as not too be attacked by allied aircraft i hope this was of some help
@johngalt2506
@johngalt2506 Год назад
4 P80s were also deployed to Europe before the end of the war. 2 to England and 2 to Italy. They didn't engage in combat operations though.
@2nolhta
@2nolhta Год назад
So, Hitler was a madman ordering Me-262 to do bombing while Churchill was genius for doing the s(h)ame?
@johngalt2506
@johngalt2506 Год назад
@@2nolhta Where are you getting that from these comments?
@georgeclontd4984
@georgeclontd4984 Год назад
That is the closet to Kurt Tank's TA 183. I wonder if the Swedes had an in to Tank's designs?
@ericwilliams538
@ericwilliams538 Год назад
This looks exactly like what would have been the German 2nd generation jet fighter. If it had actually been made. From my understanding the German jet I'm talking about, is featured in some on line war video games. I'm not sure of the correct spelling of the German jet ( it's some big German name)... You can see the designs of the German jet in the U.S. Saber, and early Mig designs as well.
@orjanarthursson3604
@orjanarthursson3604 Год назад
Excellent video. All important facts presented in a short video.
@odonovan
@odonovan Год назад
1:36 - NOPE! The Me 262 was called the "Schwalbe" (Swallow). The "Stormbird" was the "JABO" (fighter-bomber) version, which came later.
@deejannemeiurffnicht1791
@deejannemeiurffnicht1791 Месяц назад
What a little beauty!
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 Год назад
5:48 wing thickness has no impact on thrust!!!! Wing thickness only affects DRAG!
@brianartillery
@brianartillery Год назад
Such a cool looking aircraft, even now. It was followed by the Lansen, and then by the revolutionary Draken and Viggen.
@wolfganggugelweith8760
@wolfganggugelweith8760 Год назад
In Austria 🇦🇹 Europa we hade those planes too! We called it die Fliegende Tonne. 😺👍🇦🇹🐺
@HorrorshowEU
@HorrorshowEU Год назад
Hehe yup that's exactly what the Swedish nickname for it is. "The flying barrel" for anyone wondering :)
@Tibis42
@Tibis42 Год назад
You know it's a Dark Skies video when you have to watch it at 0.75x speed just to fully understand the narrator's mumbles
@macjonte
@macjonte 8 месяцев назад
At Bråvalla where these first were deployed I’ve watched Bruce dickensen of Iron Maiden. He flew his 474 over the festival area, landed and made a great show the next night.
@Chisszaru
@Chisszaru Год назад
Sweden sure knows how to develop weapons and military vehicles. I know, because i'm a Swede, and we're quite a crafty bunch of people, especially when you give us a reason to create something. If you ever need something created, just ask us Swedes, and we'll create something that will either chock you, or blow your mind. It's those two, and there's a possibility that you might just stare at the creations we create and have a lot of questions that you probably won't get the answers to, because while we Swedes are a straight forward people, we don't always answer any questions we get.
@rainerwagner8528
@rainerwagner8528 Год назад
The Saab 1001 had a prominent, but not all-known german Jet-Fighter as ancestor! The Messerschmitt Me-1101! All other aft-war planes like that appearance were based on that type! And the Saab and the first MIG-Jet-fighter are nearly 1:1 copies!
@albonyo
@albonyo Год назад
No its a focke wulf design by Kurt tank
@apskelett
@apskelett Год назад
Yeah. That's why the video talks about that fact ...
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Год назад
The Messerschmitt Me-1101 never flew.
@paythepiper6283
@paythepiper6283 Год назад
Geez it looks like some of the late WWII German designs that were getting close to the prototype flight stage. Kurt Tank had something very close and Messerschmitt also had something similar.
@MickE98
@MickE98 Год назад
Whats interesting about a lot of the early jets.The J29,Mig15 and the F86 with swept wings.Most of the ground work was already laid by the Germans.Check out the Focke Wulf section on Luft 46.
@thomascavanagh2702
@thomascavanagh2702 Год назад
RIGHT Me 262 for one
@robertoroberto9798
@robertoroberto9798 Год назад
@@thomascavanagh2702 Wasn’t built for aerodynamics but for changing the center of mass instead.
@greyjay9202
@greyjay9202 Год назад
With improved avionics, the Tunnan could be an effective fighter today. Most jet fighter operations are not conducted at supersonic speeds, and the agile Tunnan could operate in air to air combat, air to ground missions, as a weapons system against armor, artillery, and infantry, and even, with modifications, off a carrier deck. Newer is not necessarily better.
@bfelten1
@bfelten1 Год назад
As usual, all the M-I-Cs in the world, A) prevents SAAB from exporting their superior fighter jets and then B) start copying the design in a pathetic attempt to keep up. 1) The Tunnan was the first mass-produced swept-wing fighter jet. 2) The Draken was the first supersonic delta-wing fighter jet, almost a canard design. 3) The Viggen was the first true supersonic canard configuration fighter jet. In the US there is still, more than half a century later, not a single Viggen Configuration -- but almost all other manufacturers have made the transition. 4) The Gripen is by far the most cost-efficient fighter jet available for any country that just wants to defend its country. If you intend to invade another country, Gripen is not for you. Kinda reminds me of Tesla for some strange reason.
@Ghostwulf.J.M.
@Ghostwulf.J.M. Год назад
You have not mentioned, that the J 29 also served in Austria.
@darkiee69
@darkiee69 Год назад
It's so fun to see the Me 262 in a tail dragger configuration.
@sameaseverybodyelse
@sameaseverybodyelse Год назад
Great video. I'm happy I wear headphones as I can enjoy the awesome sound too 👌
@NothingIsKnown00
@NothingIsKnown00 Год назад
When I grew up any Swedish kid with a passing interest in military matters knew well all the Saab fighter jets. You could be woken up in the middle of the night and immediately recite: Tunnan, Lansen, Draken, Viggen, Gripen. (The Barrel, Lance, Kite, Thunderbolt, Griffin.)
@ErikssonTord_2
@ErikssonTord_2 Год назад
Draken that's a dragon, or a drake, that is, a male mallard! Viggen could refer to a lightning bolt, or a tufted duck.
@NothingIsKnown00
@NothingIsKnown00 Год назад
@@ErikssonTord_2 Could be. I read somewhere that it was named “kite” because of the wing shape - the plane’s defining characteristic. And “dragon” just came as a bonus. 😄
@ErikssonTord_2
@ErikssonTord_2 Год назад
Draken could also be a kite (not the bird!), as Eduardo has pointed out!
@RJW998
@RJW998 Год назад
De Havilland Ghost engine, you're welcome.
@OidHunter
@OidHunter Год назад
I didn't know about this aircraft til now.. Thank you for the fascinating video 👍
@rizzochuenringe669
@rizzochuenringe669 Год назад
The biggest disadvantage of the J29 was its engine. Instead of an axial compressor (as it was used in the German jet engines) the de Havilland Ghost engine used a radial compressor which is easier to manufacture. Not only is this type of compressor less efficient it is also more bulky in diameter. This produced more drag and gave the J29 the shape of, yes, a Tunnan. It also prevented the J29 to reach a speed anywhere near to the sound barrier.
@peterinns5136
@peterinns5136 Год назад
It also did not fail after a couple of hours of running time.
@rizzochuenringe669
@rizzochuenringe669 Год назад
@@peterinns5136 Compared to axial compressors, you mean?
@juslitor
@juslitor Год назад
@@peterinns5136 I dont recall the service interval for american axial compressor jets in the early 50´s, but I am pretty sure the difference compared to centrifugal compressors was not significant
@peterinns5136
@peterinns5136 Год назад
@@juslitor I was referring specifically to the Me262's engine. Along with a long take off, the engine was the greatest weakness.
@juslitor
@juslitor Год назад
@@peterinns5136 The engine lifespan was a design choice. A reasonable one, at the time the 262 became operational,.lack of fuel and pilots were the primary reasons for non flying 262´s. I´d wager engine overhaul time wasnt an issue at that stage of the war.
@ErikssonTord_2
@ErikssonTord_2 Год назад
The two aircraft that broke the speed record were bog standard recce aircraft that did their receece run during the flight (previously held by specially upgraded Sabres).
@TomPrickVixen
@TomPrickVixen Год назад
Calling models by single digits is very confusing! That's not how the world knows them!
@robinwells8879
@robinwells8879 Год назад
Nice to pick out the wing detail developments over time as they toyed with the sound barrier and airframe critical mach number.
@tituslaronius
@tituslaronius Год назад
Some of these clips are from the movie "Gula Divisionen" a Swedish Top Gun from the 1950s.
@drabantorgreyhound6613
@drabantorgreyhound6613 Год назад
I applaud your research in making this video.
@hidden_matrixgaming
@hidden_matrixgaming Год назад
Except that their research is faulty as usual :/
@RandallSoong-pp7ih
@RandallSoong-pp7ih Год назад
Thank you!
@wolw66
@wolw66 Год назад
Great video and content as usual 👌
@anim8torfiddler871
@anim8torfiddler871 Год назад
Thank you! Fascinating Glimpse of post-WWII military aviation history. I had never heard a PEEP about Sweden's fighter jet developments before the 1980s.
@garyhamman8934
@garyhamman8934 Год назад
Good film, about a plane most do not know about. I love your vids!
@Hughes500
@Hughes500 Год назад
That was great - thanks!
@protonneutron9046
@protonneutron9046 Год назад
the Brits had the best jet engine during WW 2. And for a while afterwards.
@VeryEpicAviationGuy
@VeryEpicAviationGuy Год назад
I'm Swedish and my Grandfather worked on the Tunnan
@cellpat2686
@cellpat2686 Год назад
Great narrative style D.S. It keeps you very interested in listening to the whole history. Guess Swedish, quirky and innovative have been the rule for Saab for almost 80 years.
@zeroqp
@zeroqp Год назад
It makes me chuckle when I hear this "tunnan" talked about in such a serious tone, since it means "the barrel" 😁
@utrock5067
@utrock5067 Год назад
Kinda adorable looks. Resembles MiG17 too.
@emaheiwa8174
@emaheiwa8174 Год назад
P1101 and Bell X5
@leafleap
@leafleap Год назад
8:03 That's a pretty good pronunciation of "Flygande Tunnan" - as a Swede; I approve.
@Works_Garage
@Works_Garage Год назад
I´d love for you to look in to when the Swedish Air Force Saab 37 Viggen Saved the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. The Baltic express. And also how the Viggen got radar lock on the Blackbird. “In total I have five hot intercepts against the SR-71 to my credit. All can be described as successful,” Per-Olof Eldh, Swedish Air Force JA-37 Viggen pilot.
@dakkuri1
@dakkuri1 Год назад
Whoa! You mean to tell me the plane actually caught up with the sr-71?
@exsappermadman25055
@exsappermadman25055 Год назад
If only he had a missile fast enough to hit it....
@Ni999
@Ni999 Год назад
​@@dakkuri1 ​​​ No. The Blackbird was flying a well known and narrow flight path and the Swedes were able to anticipate it. The Viggen got missile lock straight on, on approach, as the two closed distance. There's no big story about the flight paths, the breakthrough was the new radar in the Viggen. Others had previously tried the same maneuver and failed to get a lock .
@paullangford8179
@paullangford8179 Год назад
An SR-71 had an engine-out, and was very relieved to get an escort from Sweden, as they were being chased by Russian fighters.
@exsappermadman25055
@exsappermadman25055 Год назад
@@paullangford8179 Both engines?...
@joselopes4709
@joselopes4709 Год назад
Someone has heard about Kurt Tank's Fw-183?
@tommytuomaala9087
@tommytuomaala9087 Год назад
61? Remember seeing those in the sky in the 80s. Museum / flight training?
@Mike40M
@Mike40M 8 месяцев назад
According to an aeronautical engineer friend, the low speed aerodynamics resulting in a number of lethal crashes was overcome when an afterburner was fitted.
@panzerpoodle
@panzerpoodle Год назад
Erinnert mich vom Design an die Ta 183 huckebein
@michaelshore2300
@michaelshore2300 Год назад
Me 262 swept wing not aerodynamic but to correct error in C of G as boeing did with DC3
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 Год назад
The ME-262 was tabbed Schalwabe or Swallow due to its speed and maneuverability.
@smarte.r.1450
@smarte.r.1450 Год назад
Very very interesting. Thank you
@Tbonyandsteak
@Tbonyandsteak Год назад
Focke-Wulf Ta 183
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
@DEATH-THE-GOAT Год назад
It's containt like this that makes me proud of being Swedish 🇸🇪 😀 🇸🇪 And than I read the domestic news and directly becomes suicidal 😢 I have not checked your containt list but will you cover or have you covered SAAB's other figher jets *Saab JA 32 Lansen* *Saab JA 35 Draken* *Saab JA 37 Viggen* _(which had a "turn around" [fueld and armed] time of 10 minutes by conscript personal. It could take off from ordinary asphalted country roads and It's a total mystery to me why the USMC didn't get it, it had fitted their typ of warfare like a glove)_ *Saab JAS 39 Gripen* *_¿Saab JABS 41 Sleipnir?_* Just my vision of the next fighter jet from Saab, gen six.... Thank you for your awesome containt 😀👍
@macjonte
@macjonte 8 месяцев назад
There are great Swedish products to be proud of. Read about the 39 Gripen or A26 submarine, or how important Swedish iron mining has been to the world (and still is). Now you want to get into industrial work instead killing yourself! :D
@philalcoceli6328
@philalcoceli6328 Год назад
Call it ugly or whatever, it's very cute and its performance was not "piggish" but very good for the time. Some company must make an RC version... or a homebuilt half scale with a small jet...
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 Год назад
There are flying model 29s available which range from just the plans to stick and tissue rubber or electric power to larger heavier RC jet kits for 90mm diameter electric ducted fan units or 1/4 scale models for small jet engines. A few minutes of playing in your favorite search engine will find them.
@klaspeppar5619
@klaspeppar5619 Год назад
Only the Saab 32 Lansen left now.
@Jamesfreezy
@Jamesfreezy Год назад
Love these ❤❤❤
@hueyiroquois3839
@hueyiroquois3839 Год назад
The Stormbird variant of the Me-262 wasn't used in combat; only the Swallow version.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 Год назад
Released their Aim-9d Sidewinders on ground targets?
@gavinmclean3174
@gavinmclean3174 Год назад
The Gloster Meteor did participate in WW 2, first it was kept busy chasing V1's and it was in Europe before the end of the war. Please do some more research.
@stevenward3856
@stevenward3856 Год назад
SAAB, although it had difficulty with automobiles, was very successful with aircraft design.
@juslitor
@juslitor Год назад
More like had problems playing with the same set of rules as used by GM
@hidden_matrixgaming
@hidden_matrixgaming Год назад
Still are very good at manufacturing and designing planes
@AnotherDuck
@AnotherDuck Год назад
@@hidden_matrixgaming As well as trucks. Although all these have been split up a bit.
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 Год назад
It looks like it was made by Playskool! 😆😂🤣
@svenmorgenstern9506
@svenmorgenstern9506 Год назад
My First Jet Fighter! 😂
@jrfoleyjr
@jrfoleyjr Год назад
I love the De Haviland Vampire.
@Marco-lv8co
@Marco-lv8co 7 месяцев назад
Three of the tunnan in Kongo was blown to piece's, because one was shot at, so it wasn't worth repairing. And the other one called White Gustav was ruined after a landing misshap. And two J29 B were flewn back to Sweden. And two S29C went to Sweden. The rest of the J29B were blowned in Kongo. No plane were lost in mission.
@chriswandatownley1
@chriswandatownley1 Год назад
Do you really think the SAAB Aircraft really fired Sidewinder missiles (Infrared AAMs) at gtound targets?
@GrizzAxxemann
@GrizzAxxemann Год назад
They didn't.
@willmac5642
@willmac5642 Год назад
This and a south American fighter closely resembled late ww2 German designs that never quite saw production
@am4793
@am4793 Год назад
Those jets look startled!😮
@Adi-hj3nd
@Adi-hj3nd Год назад
It looks a lot like a Focke Wulf TA 183
@anthonyhunt701
@anthonyhunt701 5 дней назад
Always struck me that this was how the Ta-183 or P1101 would have turned out if not rushed🤔
@michaelogden5958
@michaelogden5958 Год назад
Possibly the coolest early jet.
@thomascavanagh2702
@thomascavanagh2702 Год назад
try WW2 German Jet Aircraft
@robertoroberto9798
@robertoroberto9798 Год назад
@@thomascavanagh2702 He-162 looks like a cramped death trap and the Me-262 looked nice from the side until you look at it from the top and see how fat it is.
@michalb8871
@michalb8871 Год назад
Hmm, its look like the final Ta 183 design - Ta 183 Entwurf III.
@Mrjonblakely
@Mrjonblakely Год назад
From the thumbnail I thought it was the X-5. Similar shape in my opinion.
@chandrachurniyogi8394
@chandrachurniyogi8394 7 месяцев назад
back in mid 1950s the Indian Air Force was eager to acquire the state-of-the-art SAAB J-29E Tunnan air superiority fighter . . . instead the IAF settled for the Folland Gnat F1 light air defence fighter . . .
@petertyson4022
@petertyson4022 Год назад
That was interesting. Seen pictures of this aircraft. But never knew it's history. 👍👾
@reneegudjon3204
@reneegudjon3204 Год назад
Tunnan= the barrel. Exactly like in Icelandic
@junaidyaustero7807
@junaidyaustero7807 Год назад
So cute plane😍
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