The worst problem of all FX rifles was not fixed, we all know that any touch on the FX barrels soon loses the point of impact and it's a shame not to have a solid barrel even if it has a liner but it wasn't a flexible barrel lol. This is simply a shame
the carbon fiber barrel upgrade is well worth it, fixing poi shifts that would happen between the gun case and the bench. No matter what you do to an Impact , it will never be a "throw it in the back of the truck" kinda gun. Also IMO not great for woods stocking, it shines on the bench or tripod.
X, M2, M3 all had great triggers. the regulator is a welcome upgrade. top dovetail rail is kind of a joke. the aluminum old sideshot mags solved the m2, m3 mag issues. Honestly i am shocked that the projectile length wasn't increased with the m4.
I totally agree with you with regard to the breech size. I am shocked as that was like the only thing left to change as we move onto heavier subsonic projectiles for more power since we have a 300bar tank.
@@Ayjay12345 The Utah Airgun video on the M4 actually pointed out a modified cover on the new magazine to allow for more projectile length. I know my limits on gun knowledge. I don't pretend to know the required twist rates to stabilize the longer projectiles at the top end of the impact power limit. So maybe FX didn't want to resize all the internals only to have to release 5 more twist rates that would be projectile specific.
Still playing with my first Gen Impact. Many upgrades later and it’s still my favorite air rifle. May get new one some day and the M4 is looking good. Nice job guys.
Hello, happy to see you again after a long time my friend. The DRS pro is over delay in every shop on line, this new M4 came because a lot of new brands seems to stoll some parts of your market, and FX needs money with all this trouble with is US agency. So after that, all of us waiting for a new Impact but not like that. We are waiting for a kind of Panthera in Bullpup. A plenum of 150cc arround the barrel, In this M4, no more power, no slug liner, no carbon sleeve or a real new barrel ... Just the corrections of some mistakes or new evolution needed (end of the reg 1, new magazine,) For the trigger, the one on the M3 was really good, no need to improve it. So, thanks again for your really good présentation of this M4. Hope to see you with some shot with this "old-new" pcp 😉 Bye my friend and see you soon with another new FX.
Finally 😜 I had a feeling that the M4 was on the way, so very exciting to see see it. First thought was that there has not been landslide upgrades. But after watching your presentation there are a number of changes that makes this an overall better gun. Without discussing them all the improved top rail and the new trigger are the most welcome🤗 Yes the top rail has been available from others for a long time, but it is nice to have it as standard now. My concern is the cancellation of the 1st reg. On calibers bigger than 177 and gun shooting with high reg preasures it probably makes sense, but for a 177 shooting with 100-120 bar on the reg I have my concerns. On my MKII there was some inconsistancy from 250 - 225 bar. After this is was great. BUT that was with the old plastic reg piston. If the AMP II can handle it better, I guess we will know very soon 😊 I am still a fan of the 1st reg 😎 Havent made up my mind wether to get it or not, but history tells me that I will 😂 Thank you for a super presentation buddy 🤗
I am waiting for the MK20, when will it be launched? Will air rifles become like mobile phones? Every year there is a new model and there is no big difference.
Thank you for your excellent review on the new M4. However, seeing there's nothing revolutionary in terms of upgraded performance expectations and or reliability, I will happily stay with my M3. (It's ugly enough) Also, it's devastatingly accurate and has not given me a moment's trouble in well over 3 year's regular use.
I hope that barrel will be more rigid with that solid top plate to maintain accuracy....and hope that single regulator will perform well to maintain that consistency....looking foward to try this impact m4 👍
FX don't fix their designs with new Mks, they strategically change just enough to sell new guns, leave space for their aftermarket partners, and keep as many of the real fixes in reserve for the next Mk... or the one after... etc. Completely unf---ing the Impact at a single stroke would be commercially illiterate, and they are anything but that. The M4 has to be *just* enough better than the M3 to keep new sales going, and I suspect they've hit that bullseye.
My m1 converted to m2 with original smooth twist barrel still dose what i need it to. Im exited to see all the new upgrades to the impacts my opinion there the best air gun.
That's a big 10-4 I'm done buying fx impact unless they come out with something way different I have the same thing as that m4 butt it does look nice the color
I bought the M4 and, so far, very pleased with the new features. One exception! My Saber Tactical cheek riser no longer fits. As you’ve increased the slot to permit better access to the probe, the 3 diagonal slots below it are now shorter and preclude the insertion of ST’s machined part to connect the cheek riser platform. I emailed ST who say they’re NOT planning on making a revised part - that’s absolutely appalling customer service. They’ve taken our money and now, have no plans to allow their customers to continue using this (very expensive) piece of kit. Have a word!
Still there are some changes required like 1) on liner carbon sleeve required to make it rigid, 2) pellets probe fastened screw mechanism should be changed like available with huma 3) magazine should be like STUD MAGAZINE.
Love the bolt retainer - excellent idea. PLEASE don’t lock every bolt up with red locktight so we can’t undo them. Blue locktight is more than adequate for most of the bolts you’re trying to secure. Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh. Shame you stuck with the drinking straw barrel system and, looking at the video, I’m guessing the changes to the pellet magazines are cosmetic rather than functional but, hope I’m wrong.
I applaud FX for continuing to refine and make the existing Impact platform better. Even if these improvements are not earth shattering it still means if this will be your first Impact it will be a little better than the previous M3. It is hard to do significant changes and still have the accessories compatible across all Impact platforms.
Nice video. However a classic case of Old bottle-New wine. No significant changes over the M3. However they learn their mistake of the 1st reg in the M3. 😊
Love the look of the copper M4, stunning looking Rifle, I used to have a Mk 1.5 in silver, was a fantastic rifle, I've also had a Wildcat Mk2, a Crown Mk2 & currently a DreamTac, I do like my FX rifles, in my opinion they are the most forward thinking Airgun manufacturer👍
I think removing the first regulator is very significant and the best upgrade. This should eliminate firing of 10 shots to get back in bulls-eye after the gun has been sitting for an hour or several days. Why isn’t no one mentioning this?
Really disappointing to be honest. No real differences other than cosmetic. I was expecting something like Western Airguns hammerless system or similar. FX have really missed a trick.
Estuve a punto de comprar el M3, pero salió el dynamic y el panthera y eso me hizo pensar que probablemente el M3 saliera con esas mejoras y decidí esperar por el próximo impact,luego sacaron el king,eso me decía que esperase un poco mas,ahora sale el M4 y vaya desilusión, no es para nada lo que esperaba y ya descarto por completo cualquier impact.La fabrica FX está muy adelantada, seguro que ya por ahi en algun cajon tienen listo para comercializar el impact M48,pero van metiendo todos los años algún cambio y hasta que salga el 48 venderán muchas armas,claro que cuando salga el 48 ya tendrán listo el M93 y si alguna marca de armas se le acerca sacaran el M48,50 o 70 y volverán a dejar a la competencia atrás.Muy buena estrategia de ventas,eso no cabe dudas.
I’m am absolutely stunned and shocked they didn’t use the dynamic/panthera block how and why not? I and seems like everyone wants this or at least many others. Big power and a lot of shots vs this somewhat refined M3. Or at least make a bullpup dynamic 😁I still love FX but damn very disappointed
I have two m3 a compact and a sniper I don't see my self spending any money on the m4 As most impact owners know to make it accurate you need to spend a lot more money on better hammer better block better liner for slugs and to stop the liner vibrations you need a tensioner or a sleeve Always more and more Why was not accurate from the start I know is about money By the way thanks for the video mr You put out good info Even i am not impressed with the m4 Nothing against you is just my opinion about fx and the fx impact
FX will tell you that the gun is super modular and you can change calibers on the fly... But in reality each gun is built to shoot 1 projectile well. The .22 is built around the 18gn JSB pellet and if you stick within the 900fps +/- zone your aftermarket accessories are mostly cosmetic. The gains to a 18gn JSB @ 900fps aren't much with the performance upgrades, now if you switch over to a 34gn slug at 975fps you need some shit.
All in all I'm disappointed. You will still need $€500 worth of addons to make the rifle "standard". The top picatinny rail is too short and the bottom picatinny as well. The Airmarksman fx impact backbone rail long feels mandatory for me and a saber tactical arca rail as well. Will FX sell a longer top picatinny rail or will we have to wait for other manufacturers to fix the problem for us? I'm hoping current saber tactical arca rails will fit the M4 so people wont have to buy new ones. I'm guessing the top rail isn't compatible so we will have to wait for saber/airmarksman to fix the problem. I also assume the tungsten hammer that costs less than $€1 to manufacture will be a $€30-40 addon as well.
- How much top rail do you need to mount a scope? With the cost of clip on night vision, there's not too many people running it on an air rifle. Most people run digital. - The M4 essentially copied the Airmarksman Backbone rail- did you not watch the vid? - It was mentioned in the vid that current trigger guard/bottom rails will all work with the M4. - Why not wait to see performance numbers before assuming you need a tungsten hammer?
@@212caboose I want to mount more than just a scope on the top rail. Adding things like camera recording addons, clips ons and similar means that if I mounted the scope as far away from me as possible the length would mean I'd have 1-2" or 2-5cm of cheekrest I could use. - The M4 did NOT copy the airmarksman backbone rail- did you not watch the vid? The M4 just cut a long dovetail rail you can slide a picatinny riser on. It's still a very thin piece of aluminum that I'm sure will flex/wobble just as much as the M3 did. The Airmarksman backbone is a complete system. The first thing it does is strengthen the entire rifle so it doesn't flex/wobble anymore. The second thing it does is allow you to select how much picatinny rail you want. Because it's a large piece of aluminum it's very sturdy and rigid compared to what the rifle comes with. - If the trigger guard rail replacements for the M3 also fit the M4 then that would be good. Then again since the one that comes with the rifle is barely adequate one would have expected it to come with a longer arca/picatinny rail. - It's not a question if you need the tungsten hammer. It's a question of if it should be in the rifle by default. It's a very cheap part that's sold at a ridiculous price for what it is. To me feels like a micro transaction from a greedy games company trying to squeeze as much money out of you as possible. Same reason I think the DRS Pro is a scam since you can buy a DRS Synthetic and the chassi the DRS chassi is based on for about $€200 cheaper than just the DRS Pro. Does a tungsten hammer provide a benefit? If yes then why not include it by default as the cost to manufacture is very low? If it does not provide any benefit then why sell it at all? It feels like a salesperson is trying to get you to buy extras that you do not actually need.
@@212caboose ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7AYmLIAyUFI.html Even people reviewing the rifle gets the addons I mentioned because they know the base rifle is bad without them...
Personally I think it would have made more sense to keep the 2 regulators like the mk3, I've got a mk2 (sub 12) with the new upgraded brass piston, and I've fitted a huma second regulator to it and works great, that's my opinion 👍
The fantastic FX marketing next to no difference from the M3 nearly 13 minutes of waffle on cosmetics only love fx wouldn't part with my mk2 as it's awesome but far from standard wait and see what the M5 s like
When I seen “release of the impact m4” I laughed, because I had just gotten my m3 last week. I have been seeing everybody say once you get your hands on the current version, then the new one comes out! lol
Any internal changes to fix the low first several shot velocities? Improved trigger is nice, but don't want to have the same issues as my other Impects.
1:04 Honestly the m3 with two regs are really meant for sub 12 fpe guns imo because i have my first reg at 210 bar and my second at 170 bar what happens in my case i see the two regs fighting each other when you have it at 150 and 100 thats why the first reg goes up and down until you shoot it a few times thats what mine does so that why its so high on my gun so now the did away with it now i know why but i really like my fx m3 22 cal its a beast for long range shooting for a pellet gun ....where's Ernest Rowe 🤔
If there was a option for a solid LW poly barrel or the liner epoxy clued in the barrel holder (like Skout does i think), i was sold… also if that option would cost some extra.
I honestly don’t see any major improvements here. It would have been better if the rifle would have been made easier to tune. I was actually holding off hoping for an M4. But I will be buying an Impact M3
My New M3 1st reg is leaking and was thinking of using the Regulator Bypass by Saber. will there be an issue with the M3 AMP or should I upgrade to the M4 AMP reg? I'm shooting 93 grain slugs.
There is no harm in deleting the first reg on the M3 specially not at higher regulator powers . But you could think about upgrading the regulator yes to get better consistency and efficiency
I am selling my MK2 and have carefully looked at replacing with either a MK3 or MK4. Far as I can see the MK4 is really a hunting gun. As I shoot bench, the MK3 is considerably better for me. In Oz the difference is about $200 so price is not that much of a consideration when deciding. I need the tuning ability that the MK3 has over my MK2. Unfortunately I still have to buy the stiffening rails that FX should be putting on as standard in the first place to counteract their thinner barrels. I use a single shot loader because the plastic rotary magazines are atrociously unreliable as they get older.
Will the 2nd stage reg in the M4 fit in the M3?, kinda wondering if I could get one of those regulators, with a plug for the first stage regulator guage and the bottle adapter to eliminate the first regulator, do you know if they will make those available for the M3, I think that would be cool if they did, especially if it works better than having 2 regs, please let us know
Does the 700mm and 800mm rifles actual fit in the case they come in with out having to remove the barrel?? Is the case the same as the previous impact cases?
I expected something different, something with more changes, more power, seems no competition to RTI Mora from fx at the moment. AEA announced 480 bar pcps , pumps, supersonic airguns and ammunition, strongest compact airgun in the world, RTI Mora killing it with great design, and what we get from fx, some cosmetics...
They need to make a bigger regulator instead of using that same tiny amp regulator in every gun. If you have an M3, just buy a brass piston and a Saber Tactical front reg delete, and you'll have the new M4. Crazy. 😂
If you bought an M3 recently, it might already have the brass piston in it. Bought mine back in november twenty twenty three and it already had the brass piston in the impact
@Reeldegen right. The 750 plenum obviously fits the M3, which is just a hair thicker in width. They added no length to it. I'm going to try and get the shroud for my 800 mm barrel. That's the only thing I like on the M4 is the shroud on the 800 mm.
@rickschowengerdt5832 That's crazy. I bought mine last year, and It had the plastic piston, but I have 3 or 4 spare brass pistons for my Dynamic, and my M3 has the Huma reg in it anyway.
M3/M4 no change!! Why the new design m4 did not come with the shroud screw onto the action to correct barrel flex problem and then increase stability and accuracy. M3, double ammo feed or load in the chamber is a major problem. My M3, I can't touch the barrel at all. Grab on the barrel or one micro move will mess up the POI. The case, rotate how the gun stores inside the case. Face the air tank away from the case handle. Have the barrel facing the case handle so when the gun being carried around the barrel won't be pressing against the cut out foam. These changes needed to be corrected.....
Are the parts on the M4 going to be interchangeable with the M3? Like the butt plate where the probe is able to come off? The regulator and the hammer wheel?
can the brass piston reg be added to the M3 while bypassing the 1st reg? I added a huma-air reg with the high pressure washer kit, isn't that providing the same result? lastly, does the m4 have the power block as was on the later model m3s?
Nice, but I will keep my highly modified M3, I have the Airmarksman backbone, eaglevision aluminium mags, barrel tensioners and cf liners etc - why do I need an M4?
