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The amazing gold town of Maryborough! 

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@petehall5824
@petehall5824 Месяц назад
Hi Phil, my mother Betty Hall (Green) was born and raised in Maryborough. I visited her in aged care today and showed her the video. She is in the middle stages of dementia, (she's 97) and has a fair amount of confusion surrounding time and space and with dementia, it is often the earlier parts of life that the patient has greater recall. She was confused about who you were, to which I explained that you were a "bloke on the internet." Anyway she was enthralled by the video, was familiar with all the landmarks, and still gets riled up about the mythology surrounding the Maryborough Station. One thing that really stays with me about Maryborough were the Highland gatherings held every New Years Day. The sight of Pipe Bands marching down High St was pretty impressive and involved every Highland Pipeband in the State. Anyway, thank you for your community service, this was helpful therapy for me old mum. Cheers.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
That's made my day, thank you so much for sharing. What a lovely story and very happy to hear that!
@misssassydudds
@misssassydudds Месяц назад
Bless her heart, I hope she’s well. ❤I love how you explained, “he’s just a bloke on the Internet.” Gave me a huge giggle, thank you.😂
@DavidBromage
@DavidBromage Месяц назад
The legend about the original foundation stone is because it was to be unveiled by Premier Duncan Gillies on 7 November 1890 (this bit is true). However he was unseated by a no confidence motion two days before the ceremony. There was a legend for about the next 80 years that the foundation stone was turned to hide the name of the former Premier. In reality the stone was never laid. The reason the station is so big is it was assumed Maryborough would become as big as Ballarat or Bendigo but by the time it was built the gold rush had essentially ended and the depression of the early 1890s stifled further growth.
@bushranger51
@bushranger51 Месяц назад
As a side note from an old Maryborough boy, Samuel L Clements (Mark Twain) once stopped in Maryborough, and remarked that it was a station with a town attached. In his honour the forecourt road from the roundabout to Macca's is named Mark Twain Drive. And Philip, the little park you stopped at, was always an over grown mess, until Maryborough's Vietnam Vets took on the onerous task of cleaning it up and maintaining it which is a nice touch. Another thing is the amount of granite you found, Maryborough was a huge gold mining town up to the mid 1890's and there were and are numerous small shafts in the bush surrounding Maryborough, many miners of course found nothing, and started working in the big mines around town, the rubbish rock was usually granite and just discarded wherever it was found. It's still nice to see my old home town, and thank you for shedding a positive light on her.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Thanks for the info on the Soldiers Memorial Plot. Top marks to the Vets for cleaning it up. When I was at the East School in the 1950s it was always a terrible mess with a diagonal short cut across it. The story behind it is that a father who had lost his son, and another guy, (i'm not near my references right now) had established it and watered the plantings, bringing water using kerosene tin buckets. One of them Mr J.Blackburne, was mentioned in The Age on 11/1/1923, "Poppy seed. collected by the French diildren from the battle fields oi that country, has been successfully propagated by Mr. J. Blackburne retired forestry officer at the local soldiers' me morial plot. The blooms produced not only the usual red color, but those of a'pale lavender as well.' And in the Ballarat Star 5/10/1923: "MARYBOROUGH.DEATH OF MR J. BLACKBURNE. The death occurred on Monday of Mr James Biackbume, a retired forestry Officer. The deceased, who was 84 years, took a keen interest inhe maintenance of the Soldiers’ Memorial Plot"
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Месяц назад
I imagine the station is as big as it was for two reasons: 1: As mentioned it was the centre and one of the largest gold rush towns along with Bendigo, Ballarat, Ararat. And it was a voted of confidence it would continue to grow. So it got a station the same size as the other towns as Ballarat, Bendigo. Unfortunately while it grew it never grew as big as the other two. 2: It was the centre of a number of lines so it may have been assumed there would be a lot of transfers and passengers both freight and people.
@CBM_Walks
@CBM_Walks Месяц назад
@xr6lad, Hi. you're theory is there and not exactly wrong re Maryborough Station, but not fully correct re this building. As this building opened1890. (partially opened 1889) with entrance hall & ticket office (0nly) opened. Your 2nd part is correct, but not quite why you think. The Gold Rush was well & truly over by 1887/88, tho were still a few, still trying. While population of Maryborough did continue to increase, the rate of increase slowed, and most increase was due to births, not people moving to there. Your 2nd part is correct, but not because during the Gold Rush (since was mostly over), but still rich wealth in Vic, and still good spending economy (so more money to the government as well of course). Yeh, the main reason for the Grand Station was it was the centre of a number of lines, & was to be a couple more, and was also intended for it be a major (western) regional centre for freight distribution in Victoria. Until 1889 to go via train (along known as the Serviceton line), had to go from Melbourne through Geelong, to Ballarat, Ararat, Stawell, Horsham and Dimboola. While the opening of the direct line in 1889 from Melbourne to Ballarat shouldn't have any influence re Castlemaine/Maryborough line, number of people going to Maryborough did decline. (Perhaps as Ballarat was closer journey time from Melbourne, more chose to go there. Ballarat did have more population increase than Maryborough, and more visitors, after the direct Melboune to Ballarat line opened in 1889). But of course The Depression started in 1889, so many people stopped traveling/spending money, so perhaps was more the reason why. It's because of The Depression that Maryborough never became major railways centre it was planned to be. The 1890 Station Building was built first, then more infrastructure to be built, but The Depression ended those plans
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 20 дней назад
@@CBM_Walks , the big reason that we are in a position to question the merit of building such a spectacular building is that cars were invented. and of course buses and trucks and b doubles and triple road trains and asphalt roads. if not for these transportation diversions, maryborough would be overflowing with patrons.
@MrLachlan1903
@MrLachlan1903 Месяц назад
Certainly beats South Kensington
@KellyW01
@KellyW01 Месяц назад
Just gorgeous and something lovely to watch on this cold windy Melbourne evening. Thanks Phil
@bryce3907
@bryce3907 Месяц назад
I was at the Murray Basin Opening, and they spoke about the most common belief and well-known reason why that station is so big. Good old fashion case of Pork Barreling, the Premier at the time was from Maryborough and got to pick designs for his town's new train station and decided on the rejected design for Flinders St. But once the station was built, he lost his seat for corruption, and the story was that the foundation stone had his name on it, but they were so embarrassed by him that they turned the stone around
@DavidBromage
@DavidBromage Месяц назад
That's not actually true. The Premier at the time was Duncan Gillies who was from Glasgow and in 1890 was member for Eastern Suburbs. The simple reason for the size is everyone expected Maryborough to become as big as Ballarat and Bendigo.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 Месяц назад
@@DavidBromage , yes, this magnificent building was built because the one (or there might have been two ) before it proved to be not big enough.
@CBM_Walks
@CBM_Walks Месяц назад
@byrce3907 That is false (what they said) . Current building fully opened in 1890. James Munro was not Premier until Nov 1890. After new building was already in partial use (entrance hall & ticket office). With building having commenced in 1888 so under Government of Duncan Gillies MP for Eastern Suburbs, & prior was MP for Rodney (no longer exists) in far north central Vic - Echuca, Rochester, Kyabram & areas. James Munro emigrated to Australia at 26, lived in Melbourne, & MP for Geelong when premier; was MLA for Carlton prior & prior that MLA for North Melbourne. James Munro set up the Victorian Permanent Building Society, subsequently Federal Building Society, & Federal Bank of Australia. As well as 2 Grand Coffee Palaces - Accommodation Hotels that don't sell/serve alcohol; the best known was purchase of (now as) The Windsor, & making it Grand Coffee Palace Impossible for either of those premiers to ever have used "rejected design for Flinders St" Station, like you reckon AS current Flinders ST Station plans were done during the 1890s! After the new Maryborough Station building had opened. FSS old buildings weren't even demolished till 1901, with construction on current commencing 1903, completed 1910. So dates don't work for anything you said. One phrase you put is correct, but just partially correct. James Munro resigned before the election, he didn't lose his seat. He didn't resign just because of corruption, but he was one of the main leaders of the Temperance Movement, & that was losing favour with some. (Tho it did still have influence till 1920). Munro left Australia not long after resigned as premier, but he did come back some years later and did make monetary restitution to many (but not all).
@bryce3907
@bryce3907 Месяц назад
@@CBM_Walks you know you can say that less passive aggressive, I was just advised what we were all told at the Murray Basin Opening, I'm not claiming to be the source of truth.
@bryce3907
@bryce3907 Месяц назад
@@CBM_Walks Okay I apologise, have a great day :)
@FloydBromley
@FloydBromley Месяц назад
There's lots of myths about what Maryborough station was meant to be. Reality is, the building was always meant for there. In its hey day it was an important junction and had a lot of goods and passenger traffic running through and thus needed the large amount of staff and thus size of building. It's just now that it's a shadow of its former self.
@evermorestation
@evermorestation Месяц назад
It was a quadruple junction! The bit between the end of the platform and the flour mill where Phillip was standing would've been the other half of the giant goods yard.
@FloydBromley
@FloydBromley Месяц назад
@@evermorestation yes indeed. Trains to Ararat, Ballarat, Castlemaine Dunolly and beyond to Mildura, Sea Lake, Manangatang etc and every small town in between. It’s easy to see then why it was such an impressive building!
@evermorestation
@evermorestation Месяц назад
@@FloydBromley if the Mildura train was still running and the Murray Basin standard gauge conversion project hadn't been such a folly we might still see a bit of that buzz like you do at Ballarat and Bendigo. Alas, I went a few weeks ago at peak hour and aside from the lovely info desk staff I was the only one there!
@FloydBromley
@FloydBromley Месяц назад
@@evermorestation yes and they botched the goods yard so that whatever goods traffic could maybe have run now no longer can. What a humongous waste of money.
@bryan3550
@bryan3550 Месяц назад
Either way, Mark Twain's comment that Maryborough was a railway station with a town attached was a good one... 💓
@calw2939
@calw2939 Месяц назад
A really nice video! These new travel videos make me want to take a little VLine day trip when I get a day off some time.
@caeserromerosorangewedges
@caeserromerosorangewedges Месяц назад
I enjoyed this episode a lot. I have been planning the train trip Geelong - Deer Park - Ballarat - Maryborough for a little while. Time to get off my backside and do it!
@misssassydudds
@misssassydudds Месяц назад
Hey, I live in Geelong well I did, Leopold but now live in Saint Leonards so very small world indeed ! Hope you enjoy your trip. There’s nothing like travelling by train as you miss so much if you do the drive.
@wallypoffle7796
@wallypoffle7796 Месяц назад
Outstanding work; fascinating documentary !
@reubenab6005
@reubenab6005 Месяц назад
I’m a former Bendigo resident & whenever I’d walk around the national parks, friends properties (I don’t think I had any on mine), etc I would always see the dips never thought of them as filled in trenches/mining pits. Looking back it makes sense as the ground would always be muddier when it rained & sunk more when you walked over them.
@misssassydudds
@misssassydudds Месяц назад
My family on my mum side from Bendigo! Beautiful city and I’ve got lots of memories being a little girl of going to stay with my great uncle and auntie Joyce and Eddie Jubber and they lived opposite the railway. She made the best pasties ever!
@CBM_Walks
@CBM_Walks 25 дней назад
@reubenab, Hi, family (aunt, uncle, cousins) lived on the edge of Castlemaine, 2 streets from bush land. We were were every time when we visited not to go walking into those areas. It's bush now, but wasn't in the 1800s due to the Gold Mines. We were old enough to go most places by ourselves, but that area was a no go area, as way too much chance of a collapse-in (particularly after rains) or not seeing gap/hole that never got filled in properly and leaves etc are over it. I've been to Bendigo heaps, but still very wary if on outskirts, & not even outskirts re some parts, as all around near Golden Square (west of the highway) wasa huge area of gold mining. By the way, there's quite a number of great 1860s photos re those mining areas in Bendigo on the State Library of Victoria website. You won't think it is Bendigo tho, because the landscape is so different
@Ryzi03
@Ryzi03 Месяц назад
My family have a couple of acres in the area, we're closer to Talbot and Clunes but Maryborough is our closest main town for groceries and whatnot. It's a shame there's only two daily train services each way, I find myself taking the train to and from Wendouree instead most of the time. Still waiting for the day we find gold on our property, hopefully it happens eventually
@icascone
@icascone Месяц назад
They should have paid you to make this story for the tourism board of Victoria... Very well made video!!
@Sagealeena
@Sagealeena Месяц назад
Cyanide really was used in the gold rush! My family did it not too far from Maryborough, in Forest Creek/Chewton. We think several family members died due to them using cyanide to process the gold. Victorian Heritage Register VHR1353: ‘The Archbold (Chewton) Gold Treatment Works was erected c.1884 by Jeremiah Archbold who operated an assay and metallurgical business specialising in the treatment of gold-bearing ore. The battery, furnaces and Chilean mills which survive on the site suggest that the chlorination process was used to assay pyritic ore. The works subsequently incorporated the cyanide process after its introduction to Victoria in the late 1890s. Upon Jeremiah's death in 1917, the works continued to be run by one of his sons, Herbert. Herbert Archbold went on to become widely known throughout Victoria for his cyaniding expertise. Herbert died in 1966 and the property was bought by his son Harry. When Harry Archbold died in the late 1980s the treatment works was closed and everything left as it was’
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Месяц назад
Yes cyanide was a large feature of latter gold rush use and pretty much any concrete/ stone vat you come across is likely to have been used as one. We have a few (remnants) up our way near Taradale and Castlemaine.
@morantaylor
@morantaylor Месяц назад
Cyanide is still used in Gold mining in Victoria.
@leonm2407
@leonm2407 Месяц назад
You have awakened my inner nerd with your videos Phillip. Godspeed.
@Water_Rabbit
@Water_Rabbit Месяц назад
Great post Philip. You should team up with Michelle from Goldfields Guide. She does amazing historical articles on this same topic.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Thanks for the tip! I did use her website as a source for some of this material, it's a fantastic resource
@Jimmigrant2Melbz
@Jimmigrant2Melbz Месяц назад
Every time i visit or watch a doco on an old victorian town, i feel so bad for losing all the old buildings in Melbourne to make way tor high risers or apartments :/
@jb6668
@jb6668 Месяц назад
The old station at Serviceton is pretty impressive and worth the trek.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 Месяц назад
urban aerial explorer visited and got shown around inside about 1 month ago.
@jb6668
@jb6668 Месяц назад
@@vsvnrg3263 I had the same experience when I visited in early June.
@adrianssz4582
@adrianssz4582 Месяц назад
Always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
@evermorestation
@evermorestation Месяц назад
What a crazy coincidence! I also visited Maryborough for the first time a couple weeks ago, though I only had time to look around the station (which I've always wanted to do) and do the heritage trail around the town. You missed out on the grand old Mechanics' Institute (now the council HQ) which is right next to the station, and the old woollen mill tower. It's a lovely little town with plenty to see and good PT access if you don't mind a V/Line coach where there is no train to be had.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Almost right: The Council Headquarters were originally the School of Mines, opened the same day as for the opening of the new (current) station. It added a secondary technical School, then the whole lot became a Technical College. Most of the modern buildings were demolished in recent years. The"Woollen Mill Tower" is the 1923 built chimney for the wood fired steam boilers for the machinery of the Maryborough (initially cotton only) Knitting Mill, and also created the steam to run the electricity generators which supplied the Town Council owned grid until sold to the State Electricity Commission in 1938. The MKM on the side of the chimney is self explanatory, The C Ltd on another side is for Cuttle Ltd, Cuttle being the guy who was moving his manufacturing business across the state, when some movers and shakers in Maryborough got wind of it, and "persuaded" him to set up in Maryborough, eventually employing 500+ mainly women.
@terrystephens1102
@terrystephens1102 Месяц назад
Thanks very much for a very interesting visit to Maryborough. 😁👌👌❤️
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
You're very welcome, thank you!
@Rheilffordd
@Rheilffordd Месяц назад
I stopped by Maryborough Station last Friday on my way from Daylesford back to Adelaide. Very grand structure, and it's great to see there's a new information centre and cafe/restaurant in the station building!
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Yes they were very helpful and have a lot of maps!
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Месяц назад
@@Rheilffordd I was there on Sunday. On holidays we stopped by on way home to near Daylesford as well after stopping at Maccas nearby for an iced latte a d sat in the station car park drinking it.
@OtherShaun
@OtherShaun Месяц назад
Philip, when you go back, check out the dual gauge track on the passenger platform. There cannot be too many stations in Victoria where a dual gauge track runs along a platform that hosts a regularly scheduled passenger service. Of course the VLocity passenger trains stopping here are ONLY broad gauge. (for now!) The standard gauge line heads west to Ararat a short distance south of the station.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Thanks for the tip!
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
@@philipmallis Good luck with that! Because Victoria was, apart from the four narrow gauge lines, free of gauge changes, many people writing on local Facebook Pages show they can't understand what a "gauge' is for a track and/or train, possibly because they're thinking of the fuel gauge in a car. The fact that trains can't move from Irish Broad Gauge to National Standard Gauge tracks to take a shortest theoretical route confuses them, and thei idea of a three (3) rail track being called a dual (2) gauge track is very confusing for them. Unfortunately I haven't found any ultra clear maps showing which gauge tracks go where in Victoria.
@merca_00
@merca_00 Месяц назад
I live here! This town sucks
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 Месяц назад
is the meth too expensive?
@bryan3550
@bryan3550 Месяц назад
Does Scaryborough still have Victoria's highest teenage pregnancy rate? 😳
@merca_00
@merca_00 Месяц назад
@@bryan3550 I wouldn't be surprised tbh
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Месяц назад
I worked there for a few years (yes, that was me!). It's a lot better than it used to be.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 29 дней назад
@@davidbrayshaw3529, i was getting around maryborough 50 years ago. we used to go to a pizza shop that was open on sunday morning. i also remember a copper smashed the number plate light on my old holden then gave me a ticket for a non-functioning number plate light. bastard!
@bkaiser593
@bkaiser593 23 дня назад
I watched this on the train to Utrecht … I’ll definitely give Mary borough another go when I get back
@misssassydudds
@misssassydudds Месяц назад
Can’t tell you how glad I am. I found this channel! This is an awesome video as was your one about the Olympic Village. Looks like I have a bit of binging to do!
@nicklars3n
@nicklars3n Месяц назад
Lovely to see Maryborough featured Phillip. I visited recently and it was a thrill to spot an old coffee palace (Mandeville's). Something for next time you visit!
@romanr9977
@romanr9977 Месяц назад
Yes, good pick up. FYI they’ve turned the palace into apartments (unsure when but not recently) - was considering renting one when looking a couple of months ago to move to regional Victoria and Maryborough was high on my list.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Yes it's a wonderful place, so many interesting old buildings to visit
@raildoestravel
@raildoestravel Месяц назад
I've been on the N Class Loco that had 'Maryborough' written on it❤
@ruehtree
@ruehtree Месяц назад
What a sad indictment on the Victorian Government that you have to travel by coach to such an iconic railway station such as Maryborough.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Месяц назад
What a coincidence. Only Sunday I was sitting in the station car park sipping an Iced Latte from the next door McDonalds as I passed through.
@davidmccrory5604
@davidmccrory5604 Месяц назад
Just love this channel thanks Phil another very enjoyable video
@VanadiumBromide
@VanadiumBromide Месяц назад
Comfy.
@rbalse
@rbalse 25 дней назад
Hi Phil, I enjoyed your visit to my late farther's boyhood home. I could not help noticing thought the flickering lights. This was caused by a mis-match between the frequency emited by the lights and the frame rate set on your camera or phone.. In Australia, AC electricity cycles at 50Mhz, while the default frame rate of on mobile phones is 30 or 60Mhz. To prevent the flickering, try changing the frame rate to 25 of 50 fps if your phpone or camera allows it. You may need to download a 3rd party video app to to your phone do this. Hope this helps.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis 17 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks very much for the tip. I don't know much about these things so that's very helpful. My camera does have settings to change the FPS so I'll give this a go from now on. Many thanks!
@DCCXXjay
@DCCXXjay Месяц назад
philip mallis is the goat of youtube and everyone knows it
@spahndirge
@spahndirge Месяц назад
Plenty of the locals will tell you where to go.
@gumbootnet
@gumbootnet Месяц назад
"2024.09"?? Is this video from the future?
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Unfortunately not, just a typo on my part!
@JourneytoaBetterLife
@JourneytoaBetterLife 2 дня назад
It would be great to hear some commentary of your visits after you watch the channel "My Lunch Break" :) gave me a new perspective of old buildings.. I don't know what to think anymore
@stufromoz8164
@stufromoz8164 Месяц назад
The Train station at Maryborough has it;s own little town attached to it, said some old dude years ago, might have Mark Twain if I remember correctly....???
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 Месяц назад
the correct quote is on this internet thingo. it went something along the line of "a station with a town attached".
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Mark Twain, on his 1895 tour, originally said ""Don't you overlook that Maryborough station, if you take an interest in governmental curiosities. Why, you can put the whole population of Maryborough into it, and give them a sofa apiece, and have room for more." It's been whittled down to something more memorable and sayable, BUT for the life of me, I don't know why people have to keep dropping his name, when there's no evidence he knew anything about Maryborough Station as an all purpose long distance passenger refreshment place and junction, and regional administration building, with a large train remarshalling yard. There's better stories about Dame Nellie Melba's visit, the panic around the 1952 Royal visit during the polio scares, and a list of visits by other notoables whose names could be dropped. And let's not forget the role the Station has played in the farewelling of those going to war, and the welcoming home of those who had survived.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 19 дней назад
oops, Royal Visit, 1954, not 1952, but it still didn't make sense to jam hundreds of people, including little me, on the station platform during a polio scare, so the Royals could stay on the train. The original plan was for the Royals to go out onto the hugely expensive dais built over the front steps, make a speech, then, on the new fine aggregate roadway, walk through the crowds waving flags ( we had practised by waving our school rulers at our teacher and a parent acting as the strolling Royals). The new roadway looped around to the north gates on the platform, which would have been empty so repositioning the red carpet to align with the train's new slightly reversed position would have been easy, but in the event, none of that happened. Instead, people jumped down onto the tracks to chase after the train, which was heading for overnight stabling at quieter, more easily securable Dowling Forest (Ballarat) Racecourse , on a spur line not far past Creswick.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 19 дней назад
@@tomwoolman2931 , omfg! then or now, some people in authority just dont get it. i'm old enough to have had kids in my class who got polio. what a horrible disease.
@jayfielding1333
@jayfielding1333 Месяц назад
Being from the other Maryborough, what I believe is that the urban legend began when the local paper here ran an April Fools Day story (as was its tradition) one year that said research had uncovered the 'mix-up'. We can be sure it is a myth, however, as Maryborough, Queensland, was designed as a terminus station and the building in Victoria is quite clearly designed for through traffic. The grandiosity of the southern station is because it was a hub for so many regional lines back in the day.
@tompenning2858
@tompenning2858 16 дней назад
Thanks, Phil... I'm from America, but my small family lived in Maryborough back in the early 1990's. Some of the shots were recognizable. You made me 'home'sick.
@sarahbrennan9416
@sarahbrennan9416 Месяц назад
Mark Twain once came through Maryboroughvia the railway.
@CBM_Walks
@CBM_Walks Месяц назад
The Myth Legend (& just a Myth) was: As Duncan Gillies Premier, who officiated in 1890 at the Opening of new Station Building was forced out of office due to a no-confidence vote, a few days prior before the opening, at Maryborough Station, and no longer the Premier* he was considered as not having "statesmanship", so should Not have been the person to open it. Since it was the (a) Premier that was to officially open the New Building [*Technically, Gillies was still premier, as ceasing date of his tenure shows same date as next premier was voted in.] So as a person who had "no standing" anymore, is why Myth started (years, maybe decades, later) that the Foundation Stone had been reversed at some stage. It wasn't - soon after The Opening, nor ever was. See last paragraphs, below. The "Ending Legend That The Original Station Stone Was Reversed" on the 100 year Anniversary Plaque is to end the myth that it ever was. (My comment: if going to attempt to end myths re a number of historical buildings, by adding a line on a newer plaque, there's going to be many "ending legends" on plaques lol] Expanded details (& repeating a bit of) re first paragraph, & below is from/on Heritage Council Of Victoria: "In 1890, 'the no-confidence vote forcing [Victorian Premier] Gillies from office occurred a few days before a ceremony at the station and foundation stone laying acknowledging Gillies’ role. The story has it that the same stone was used with the inscription facing inwards - Gillies was no longer Premier. But the Victorian Railways conducted a renovation in the 1980s and no evidence was found to support this story - they couldn’t find the stone. The most recent renovation was done in 2007 and a new foundation stone refutes the story as a myth.' ('A Station with Town Attached', page 11).
@CBM_Walks
@CBM_Walks Месяц назад
James Munro came into office on 5 November 1890, bit after the New Building was, Officially, opened. It was already open. Someone in comments implied that the building is grandiose because of a "corrupt premier", they wrote, but could only be Munro, who was booted only 2 years into his premiership. As the building opened in 1890, & James Munro didn't become premier till Nov 1890, he had nothing to do with the plans for it, nor building of it
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
That's a great story, thanks very much for sharing!
@CBM_Walks
@CBM_Walks 25 дней назад
@@philipmallis Hey, Phillip, perhaps could do a video on myths related to Melb PT, Stations etc. Oh wait, would have to be 4 videos of 20 minutes each :). Maybe leave the Melbourne Airport "already existing underground station" out tho as too hard too convince a lot of people it's just a myth. Btw, Daniel Bowden has a map plan on either his site or social media post that shows what was the cause of the myth. With many things I do, I check dates, & who was the relevant authority or in government at the time. As can't guarantee what i find & read is correct. But when see that the dates re an item or myth don't correlate, good chance it's not true, or only partially true. Myths could do (and I'm joking- partially) is the ghost of a fisherman at platform 7/8 at FSS. (A fair way from the river!); myth of a Station & railway tracks in Campbell Arcade /Degraves St subway. Building on north-east corner of Degraves St/Flinders St used to be a PMG builiding & there was a small Goods dock for items to & from FSS. Never ever seen any photos of any tracks in there, & even if was could be only a narrow gauge goods 'push' track. (I'm sure you've seen the photos of people/train passengers being carted on flatbed goods trolleys, when the subway's is getting flooding. Some of those flatbeds were from the PMG not the station). I do love the one, that you've touched on, that FSS Building plans got mixed up, in London, with plans Victoria Terminus (now named Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus) in Mumbai. Mixed up with plans for a Station Building that construction of started on in 1877. Even if the 1883 competition winner design for FSS had been used (but never was, with VR then having their employees/designers do the plans starting in 1890) the dates still don't work out. By the way I looked up several things to see if Mark Twain did say what's credited to him re Maryborough Station. Since a lot of things are credit to Twain that he didn't actually say. An item said one of his writings it was a local that said it. Twain just recorded it what a local said to him
@bryan3550
@bryan3550 Месяц назад
Oops! Those old cyanide vats didn't have an "Impenetrable HDPE Liner" indicated by that schematic... You have some really picky viewers, Philip! 😂
@lebenstraum666
@lebenstraum666 29 дней назад
The Maryborough Qld reference is to the airport. Delivery of sugar cane factory equipment to Geraldton WA had that Qld town rename itself Innisfail.
@squishyhippie4059
@squishyhippie4059 Месяц назад
Brave man doing a video of that station. Our benevolent dictators will be having meetings and planning to "upgrade" the station already :-)
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
The only upgrades being planned for the station are those which are needed, and they are for many more people to use it, and help even more to use it-the ripple effect. I'd give a great deal to be able to volunteer there (but fragile, treacherous health keeps this old bloke 3 hours away). Other towns would give a great deal to have such an iconic attraction. Why don't more locals join in to get things moving more, and more things moving there???
@squishyhippie4059
@squishyhippie4059 20 дней назад
@@tomwoolman2931 "Progress" doesn't mean we have to loose our heritage I think more people are starting to realise that :-)
@MichaelsMusicMix
@MichaelsMusicMix 27 дней назад
Cyanide, Sulphuric acid and Borax. What could possibly go wrong?? Not sure Id be eating any vegies grown in soil near where that was all done. lol. Also the pond names, Pregnant and Barren...ahh the 1850's eh?? Great video Philip
@DavidDaniels-h5p
@DavidDaniels-h5p 25 дней назад
Great video as always Phil. I recommend having a look at towns near the Otway such as Timboon, Lavers Hill, and Gellibrand. These towns could almost have a video each explaining them and their history of rail.
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 Месяц назад
Awesome mate, thanks for this. It would be great to explore on an ebike, I will take mine there someday soon for a weekend away. Look up the stick shed in Murtoa, this is great too.
@thomaspye4869
@thomaspye4869 25 дней назад
It’s great to see a video about Maryborough, my cousin lived here for many years and it is definitely one my favourite little towns in regional Victoria with a great charm to it. One thing I’m surprised you didn’t mention with the railway station was the experiences of writer Mark Twain there, I was always fascinated by that!
@wormratspider7586
@wormratspider7586 29 дней назад
Gorgeous, and such a shame trains have the frequency about once a year.
@DDB168
@DDB168 Месяц назад
That was great, very interesting.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@michaelwarner1863
@michaelwarner1863 10 дней назад
Most excellent thank you.
@mrporsche4236
@mrporsche4236 29 дней назад
Go there and see if you ever come back
@jxmai7687
@jxmai7687 Месяц назад
9:12 the machine call stamp mill.
@shaunmillsom557
@shaunmillsom557 Месяц назад
Love your videos mate! Keep up the great work!! 🙂
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
@bingo000
@bingo000 Месяц назад
Why are they always mixing up railway plans 😅
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
I'm old enough to remember how, before we had TV, and before other family members had even electric light, people sat around in the gloom, or even pitch black, and talked. One of the favourite topics were how things got mixed up, plans for railways, bridges, buildings, towers, whole towns, you name it. In later years I've worked out they were ALL made up. All part of the "might have been" "could have been" "would have been" " must have been" "was" "definitely was" "undeniably was" "result of corruption", "another round for the boys, mate" school of folk history.
@jxmai7687
@jxmai7687 Месяц назад
Maryborough was rich with gold, that is why.😂
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Also very rich in location, because no-one realised that road transport would eventually develop so that animals, people, goods and parcels could go faster and more comfortably door to door in any direction they wanted to.
@hazptmedia
@hazptmedia Месяц назад
Bro went to Talbot before me
@lucaseric8679
@lucaseric8679 Месяц назад
Gotta check out Korumburra train station mate.
@tangiers365
@tangiers365 Месяц назад
Way more pretty than the bendigo station!
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Like me, the part of the Bendigo Station which survived the great fire, is much older, and unlike Ballarat, hasn't had any facelift.
@tangiers365
@tangiers365 20 дней назад
@@tomwoolman2931 bendigo station on the other side of the main platform is pretty
@johnlacey155
@johnlacey155 Месяц назад
Very interesting video thanks - some places that I haven't seen! The story that I heard I think back in the seventies (from railway related people) is that the station building was planned for either Flinders or Spencer St, but somehow wound up at Maryborough (I can't remember specifics). I haven't heard of any relationship to QLD. My understanding is that it has always been way too big for the needs of the town - it's a monster. As it happens I was born in Maryborough, and spent all of about two weeks living there. Seems like a nice country town though, based on the visits I've made.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
A major mistake which people, including Mark Twain, made/make is to assume that the station was built with only local passenger traffic in mind. The reality is that there were also long-distance passenger trains serving the Mallee, all needing refeshment services, and eventually, with sleeping cars to Mildura, plus being such a junction, for train marshalling, 8 times more lines and sidings for train servicing, and transporting animals, produce and goods than there were for passengers. Add in the administration for those, plus hundreds of staff for the region up to the Murray, and the space is justified. The regional administration and the station facade were what Maryborough were after, the latter for the end of its main boulevade from the Civic Square. The quality of the internal finish is a different consideration. A useful comparison is with the Victorian Railways Administration Building in Spencer St., a multi-storied high-quality building approved at the same time, for that section of already hydro-elevated Melbourne. The idea that mainly single-storied, single-through-platformed (+2 docks) Maryborough was designed for Spencer or Flinders is quite bizarre, just as the idea that the U shaped Bombay/Mumbai Station was designed for Melbourne (with half the platforms suspended over the Yarra) is, but the repeating goes on......
@ksenijavojisavljevic2034
@ksenijavojisavljevic2034 Месяц назад
So pity there is no culture of planing city together with greenery and flowers around those beautiful buildings. They are like not planed to be there , randomly surrounded by nothing.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Interesting point! in earlier times there were shade trees for horses, and behind the Post Office etc were the original Botanical Gardens. But the land was typically rocky and dry, so when the site of the current Phillips Botanical Gardens - on the Main Gold Lead, so dug over to a great depth, and on the Main Creek, and with a no-longer-required dam for gold-finding, horse watering and firefighting purposes became available in the 1870s, it was planted out with exotics. It's worth googling for pics of Phillips Gardens Maryborough, particularly those not showing the effects of the drought.
@icascone
@icascone Месяц назад
Why haven't the mykei reader not being installed at Maryborough or other stations?
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
I won't share my guess. The paper ticket is required, but now there's a twist, you can instead get the equivalent on your phone. The challenge now is to ensure that day trippers to Maryborough know that so they can be "counted" by the conductor on the train, instead of, if you haven't realised your Myki won't work beyond Ballarat, having to stand of a queue of like-assumers, and buy a ticket retrospectively, which, on the day I was there, was taking a very long time given, if you're returning via Ballarat, you get only 3 hrs in Maryborough, longer if you take a slow coach back via Castlemaine :)
@charlie-jay
@charlie-jay Месяц назад
Rumour has it that the roundhouse for the trains terminating at Maryborough was built at the Bendigo Railway Station instead. Not sure where there would be information to determine the veracity of this statement though.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
Some yarners had their pet's brains in their heads.
@robvegas9354
@robvegas9354 Месяц назад
Great video! Maryborough is an epic place.
@chrismckellar9350
@chrismckellar9350 Месяц назад
I am curious, is the Myki reader stand for the new Myki 'open loop' payment system that will be rollout from 2025?
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
I don't think so. They were installed when myki was first rolled out because it was expected to be used across the entire state. For whatever reason this didn't happen so you'll see myki readers at stations in 'paper ticket' territory like Maryborough.
@chrismckellar9350
@chrismckellar9350 Месяц назад
@@philipmallis - Thanks for the reply. Once rolled out, the new Myki 'open loop; payment system using credit/dedit cards and branded 'Myki' cards across will see increase public transport usage across the state.By keep up with this interesting 'public transport' tourism video's 🙂
@tasmanianmapping
@tasmanianmapping Месяц назад
Phillip mallis premieres?
@JacobDiCamillo
@JacobDiCamillo Месяц назад
Can you do a video about the MCG and its history
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Месяц назад
Thanks for the idea, I'll add it to the list!
@JacobDiCamillo
@JacobDiCamillo 28 дней назад
@@philipmallis Thanks 👍
@icascone
@icascone Месяц назад
1:30 I heard similar story about Flinders street that was meant to go to a city in India... Maybe same name station...? I also know that it is simply a myth... How did that myth come from?
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 Месяц назад
the short answer to that is no.
@icascone
@icascone Месяц назад
@@vsvnrg3263 LOL thanks for the answer lol
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
The myth involves a Bombay/Mumbai mix up, relying on the idea that both stations were designed in a London office,as if. All these myths stem from the "might have been" "could have been" "would have been" " must have been" "was" "definitely was" "undeniably was" "result of corruption", "another round for the boys, mate" school of folk history, from the times when fast fact checking of what your name was, how old you were, how many times, and who you had married, and particulary what you said in a bar, or on a long journey, were impossible.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 20 дней назад
@@tomwoolman2931 , it still sounds like a myth about being designed in london. it would have taken about a year for a request to get to london, building is drawn up then it returns on a sailing ship to the colony. ithe plans would have been drawn up within the vr.
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 19 дней назад
@@vsvnrg3263 Exactly!! and the dates for planning and building the two stations are decades apart. The original rumour seed may have come from the "look" of the station buildings. Flinders St, with its cupolas and striped clock tower does look more exotic than earlier buildings, while the Bombay/Mumbai U shaped station, 35 years older, looks more like buildings at "Home", as transported in the memories of those returning to the Colonies via Suez and India.
@PradeepRaajkumar1981
@PradeepRaajkumar1981 Месяц назад
Lovely mate Nice.. SPENCER ST...
@jasonschubert6828
@jasonschubert6828 Месяц назад
Ah, $10.60. The same price I would pay to travel 1 tram stop and return 2 hours later. Good old Victoria. 🙄
@tomwoolman2931
@tomwoolman2931 20 дней назад
If you're feeling hard done by, have a look on the V/line page for "Plan trip/buy tickets" and note the length of time between services. For many in the regions, the intervals are not hours, but half and full days.
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath Месяц назад
Ah, this is a premiere - I'll be back later, I don't do watchalong \m/
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