The American T-14 Armata

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When General Dynamics unveiled their AbramsX tank technology demonstrator, which uses a remote turret and moves all crew members to the hull, many were quick to compare it to the infamous T-14 Armata. However, there's a much older M1 Abrams variant that trialed the crew-in-hull concept first. It was the M1 TTB (Tank Test Bed), designed during the early to mid 1980s.
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@Spookston Год назад

Do you guys think the TTB should be added eventually? I think it would be pretty fun. Anyway, due to popular demand I've added a post design to my merch store. crowdmade.com/collections/spookston

@FatherGrigori Год назад

I think so, I'd prefer if it was in the tech tree, but it would also be a better event vehicle than the 2av and the ccvl. It would be something unique again

@Jump-Shack Год назад

As a event vehicle definitely

@bubby9175 Год назад

No I don’t think so. also do you think they would be able to have it unload and restow the round in war thunder.

@Spookston Год назад

@@bubby9175 Probably not since conventional tanks are capable of it IRL but not in War Thunder

@bubby9175 Год назад

@@Spookston btw really like the merchandise thinking about getting the tank gunner sight hoody.😄

@FatherGrigori Год назад

I don't know why but three tankers sitting shoulder to shoulder is funny to me

@ricardohumildebrabo Год назад

The true tri tankistas

@8-bitac0lyte76 Год назад

Gunner; "You're stepping on my foot." Driver; "Yeah? Well I can smell the MRE you had for breakfast."

@volatile5460 Год назад

Three dudes, couped up in a crew capsule, less than 5 feet apart because they’re very very gay😊

@Silver_Prussian Год назад

Sitting in the back seat with your siblings and constantly bothering each other

@christianweibrecht6555 Год назад

Think about the last time you had to sit next to two people in a small vehicle

@joshuamueller3206 Год назад

Since perpetual motion machines are impossible in the real world an adiabatic engine is an engine that converts as much of the thermal energy from combustion to mechanical energy as is possible under the current environmental conditions. Impressive that a tank test bed mounted an engine approaching that level of performance.

@rykehuss3435 Год назад

"Since perpetual motion machines are impossible in the real world" source?

@FazekasPK Год назад

@@rykehuss3435 It is basically a dogma, meaning theree is no proof, just accept it as it is.

@purplenurp5590 Год назад

@@rykehuss3435 lmao just spotted a perpetual motion nutt

@purplenurp5590 Год назад

@@rykehuss3435 yeah the source is every perpetual motion machine that people make that doesn't work because of physics and if you had any understanding of physics you would understand why perpetual machines don't work

@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 Год назад

@@rykehuss3435 my source is that i made it the fu@# up

@nooblangpoo Год назад

How about taking a look at the other unique M48 prototypes like the one with the GAU-8? Or the M60-2000.

@JP12345 Год назад

I don't know how but the tank somehow looks like a low graphic video game 'futuristic' tank from 2008

@StarkRaven59 Год назад

I bet at least a few of those games' art departments took inspiration from these prototype designs.

@iain-duncan Год назад

I love how we add m1 to the start of literally everything

@Red_Four Год назад

I volunteer at the training support facility that houses the National Armor and Cavalry Collection from time to time. The Abrams TTB is there. It's a really cool concept for a tank.

@jacobdewey2053 Год назад

Good ole Fort Benning. Ever make trips over to Auburn?

@Lyzrinn Год назад

@Работаем, брат! Does it drives further than 10 meters :) ?

@Lyzrinn Год назад

@Работаем, брат! 10km ? That’s a record right there !

@pugasaurusrex8253 Год назад

@Работаем, брат! What’s better peanuts or cashews?

@esanahka9284 Год назад

How about a video on why autocannons aren't used on MBTs when all the future tanks so far seem to like them? Also Leopard 2K had 20mm edit: French used 20mm, but was actually in service and the German/American mbt project had autocannon too

@chandlerwatson1379 Год назад

Sad amx 30 noises

@Stealth_Pilot Год назад

Turm iii with 30mm and t-72 m2 modena

@werrkowalski2985 Год назад

I would guess it's mainly that they fit a niche that is not really important for a tank. The primary weapon of choice in a tank to engage all targets, be it infantry, vehicles or buildings, is the cannon. Which means that the tank crews prefer to remain at range and engage targets with the cannon. This also means that the autocannon is much less effective. And for suppression there are machineguns.

@user-op8fg3ny3j Год назад

@@werrkowalski2985 is it possible to have an autoloader with a protective blast door that the abrahms has?

@SamaelVR Год назад

It's been pointed out a lot that having less crew members isn't the best thing considering it means less people doing maintenance if anything goes wrong. Also means less replacement crewmembers in case one dies. So if you de-track your tank, you're fixing that with only 3 people instead of 4. Or if your driver dies you're suddenly down to 2 crewmembers instead of 3.

@eflam3374 Год назад

Babe wake up... Spookston uploaded

@biggestoof524 Год назад

It's 12am 💀

@Snaox Год назад

@@biggestoof524 what do you mean ? It's praticly 7 pm 🤡

@oskar4000 Год назад

@@Snaox 7pm CET

@frankdrebin3988 Год назад

Armored Warfare Players: "Hey, I've seen this one!"

@benbowman6995 Год назад

I was thinking about that at the beginning of the video. This is a pretty cool tank in Armored Warfare.

@lazylime8046 Год назад

Technically, the first Soviet unmanned turret prototype was the Object 490 in the early 80s, predating the object 195. Although the 490 was done by the Morozov Design Bureau - as it's now known - in Ukraine.

@Spookston Год назад

I don't think Object 490 was ever built, just scale mockups were made

@Silver_Prussian Год назад

It was actialy the obj.450 all the way in 1971

@_Admin_01. Год назад

@@Spookston I've found mentions that one or two were built, but other than three pictures of it (Prototype, test rig, or mockup IDK) there's not much to on for it. Those IRL pictures are only of the A version, so I can't speak about the first and third versions.

@lazylime8046 Год назад

@@Spookston Could have sworn a model was built, but just one.

@natoartiljerija1441 Год назад

I think the Comress 75 came earlier no? I remember it being from the late 60s.

@michaelhowell2326 Год назад

Speaking of T-14, I wouldn't mind an video talking about the Sherman-esque T14 and any other Sherman prototypes.

@MisterMainiac Год назад

The TTB is the answer to a popular question about autoloaders. "Can a carousel style autoloader have blowout panels? If it can, why doesn't russian tanks have them?" The only possible way to have blowout panels for a carousel autoloader is to make the turret unmanned so the explosion pressure can vent out the top.

@gn4128 Год назад

Leclerc moment

@user-op8fg3ny3j Год назад

So what's the disadvantage then? Surely there has to be a con otherwise everyone would have done this?

@MK_ULTRA420 Год назад

@@user-op8fg3ny3j Unmanned = One less crew member to help out, and one more thing that needs maintenance.

@jintsuubest9331 Год назад

@@MK_ULTRA420 Tell that to the French.

@MK_ULTRA420 Год назад

@@jintsuubest9331 I already know there's some tank maintenance guy swearing in French somewhere in the world at any given moment. Unless they're all on break.

@MrSnow-ds9qd Год назад

You should do a "master the tank" videos where you explain how to play you're favourite vehicles and why I think it's a really neat idea!

@scorf73 Год назад

Love your content man, keep up the good work! :)

@jameshodgson3656 Год назад

I'm not sure if it predates the TTB but Object 477 Molot was an earlier Soviet project than the Object 195 which also had a crewless turret. Fun fact, it's autoloader could handle penetrators one full meter long, and it was mostly completed before the fall of the Union. It is believed to still exist in Ukraine somewhere.

@QwerYT4819 Год назад

Russia says it's theirs

@classifiedad1 Год назад

@@QwerYT4819 they can try claim it then. Heard it isn’t going too well at all.

@vikydrone6366 Год назад

@@classifiedad1 these days ukraine arent doing to great either with destroyed economy and other...

@classifiedad1 Год назад

@@vikydrone6366 Difference between Russia and Ukraine’s long-term economic prospects is that the latter has a hope for recovery. Nothing like a Marshall Plan 2.0 to bring war-ravaged nations to economic prosperity within a decade. Russia doesn’t have that option, and they don’t have an empire like they used to.

@vikydrone6366 Год назад

@@classifiedad1 BAHAHAHA marshall plan 2? With USA having HUGE debt and the EU with its energy problem? Dont think so pal.

@toysoldi3r14 Год назад

The Comres 75 was a functional external gun tank made in 1968 as a test bed tank. it had a 20pdr and was built apon the comet chassis. thats the earliest one i can find myself

@SilverDart214 Год назад

good video Spookston

@s-400triumf9 Год назад

Great Vid!

@brunix33 Год назад

love u spookston keep uploading my man

@caesar1058 Год назад

Holy crap great gameplay.

Год назад

Nice Video

@codymoon7552 Год назад

This is wonderful

@TheMaplePrivate Год назад

Good morning spookston

@JacobiJonez Год назад

How are you doing Spookston? Asking after your QnA video.

@Spookston Год назад

I'm doing alright, thanks for asking

@serdarcam99 Год назад

Hi Spook interesting video as always i asked video for KF51 Panther few videos ago it would be nice to watch and see your opinions about it . Take Care

@la_chappa246 Год назад

You should review the LAV series of vehicles, i honestly think they could be added to war thunder along side the BTR series of wheeled vehicles

@reonthornton685 Год назад

The LAV-AD is already in War Thunder, although the regular LAV's would be interesting.

@Jackstalkerfear 28 дней назад

The idea of an unmanned turret and crew in a defensive hull compartment remains interesting to me, for sure the idea remains true that a machine can be replaced but a well trained tank crew cannot. (Or not as easily at the least) Maybe we will see this more in the future, for now I think the next upgrade package the Abrams is getting is a kind of dedicated drone package.

@GoldRaven-oe4by Год назад

Even with the front fuel tanks gone the range can't be that bad since its 15% lighter

@thevgbros9751 Год назад

Also happy almost Thanksgiving Spooks!! And everyone else

@jPlanerv2 Год назад

Video on STRV 140 would be cool

@mr.bamboozle3053 Год назад

Italy recently released the Centauro 2 i think it would be a great thing to look at!

@mypasswordisn6581 Год назад

Video idea: do arcade, any tank

@carlomendoza6173 Год назад

Im happy that im able to play this tank in Armored Warfare

@HDonkeyTS Год назад

I would like to see a video about the E-50 tank. In regards, a Panther II lover

@thevgbros9751 Год назад

Can you do a video on which nation has the best ifv? Not necessarily in warthunder but that would be good too!

@MikuMikey Год назад

To sum up what I've learned about American test vehicles from Spookston: When american tanks got really OP either the Cold war ended or Congress threw a hissy fit and said "nO"

@matthewmiller1101 3 дня назад

When I saw the I thought you were playing sprocket

@meatball.9710 Год назад

I know you mostly talk about american tanks, but it would be cool if you could talk about the Semovente da 149/40. Its an artillery piece, but it still might be interesting to talk about.

@ShopeeMarketteam Год назад

I find it funny that people think that something that has a good design should never ne replicated by anyone else ever again

@evanbunch1612 Год назад

I'd love to be able to view the sources you used so I can learn even more about this and future topics, is there any chance you could link them in the description? I completely understand if that's not something you wish to do!

@5tevie117 Год назад

Will you do a video on the NEXTER? (Leclerc turret on Leopard 2 hull)

@ItsDrMeme Год назад

Hey Could you please make a video on the KF-51 Panther that was recently unveiled by Rheinmetall? Would love to hear your thoughts.

@StephenLArchers4steve2 Год назад

Hey maybe you should do a compilation of you only playing very fast vehicles(armored cars, light tanks, etc)

@raphaelhanna8345 Год назад

Could you please make a video on the M1 Thumper

@AstroSlamacow Год назад

I thought this was the T-114 at first, nvm. But hey you should still do a video on the T-114 (ik you said maybe already)

@riptorn7444 Год назад

I want the M1TTB in game so bad, Christmas event please????

@the_buttoned_newt3753 Год назад

I believe that the first tank with an in-hull crew would be little willy

@jasonli2474 Год назад

the west german VTS1 came before the TTB, and had the whole unmanned turret/crew in hull layout

@Spookston Год назад

I really don't think that counts considering someone had to exit the vehicle to reload the gun.

@jasonli2474 Год назад

@@Spookston the prototype was just a proof of concept for the hull, a production vehicle would have an autoloader

@imhighaf2060 Год назад

@@jasonli2474 then that means TTB still the first tank to manages to be operational with unmanned turret and crew in the hull layout.

@toysoldi3r14 Год назад

The Comres 75 was a functional external gun tank made in 1968 as a test bed tank. it had a 20pdr and was built apon the comet chassis. thats the earliest one i can find myself

@Joe_Friday Год назад

I like the idea of making a new generation of tanks. Some are saying we should go to the 130mm Rheinmetall or the 140mm Nexter. Are either one of those guns electrothermal chemical guns like the 120mm (if converted to ETC) on the Abrams X? Would their rounds be more powerful than the new rounds for the Abrams X's 120mm? I think a 4th crew member should be added so he can help operate secondary and tertiary weapon systems such as the 30mm canon, hero drones, etc. I'd say mount a .50 paired with a crows system on top. Add some active countermeasures to go along with the already present passive ones. Add reactive armor. Is it true these tanks will have javelins? That would be a weapon system the 4th crew member could utilize while the gunner/commander are concentrating on primary targets. As far as a tank platoon goes, maybe the lead tank of the platoon could use reconnaissance drones in place of hero drones.

@themanformerlyknownascomme777 Год назад

I belive the 140 is ETC compatable

@UnknownMemoryOfTheDistantStar Год назад

@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 The 140mm ETC only got mentioned 2 times in the docs, it was planned but the idea got scrapped in the early 90's. The congress also tried to cut the "120mm LW gun" (It's the official name for the 140mm XM291 ATACS) budge. At least "TACOM" managed to install the 140mm in the 1st and 2nd CATTB's in 1993 and 1994, both CATTB's used the same turret, but the 2nd one used a new hull made just for it.

@lordmilchreis1885 Год назад

Watch the new vid from the Chieftain explaining why more crewmembers arent a good thing and why drones/30mils/crows nest etc dont belong onto a tank

@benjaminwalburn7289 Год назад

Is this your second video on the TTB

@dumpsterfire42 Год назад

Could you please make a video about the T50

@XeroKarma Год назад

I’m still hoping that one day you’ll play with the German Wiesel 1a2

@nmspy Год назад

*tripple reads title to not have a fucking aneurism*

@jaroslavdudas7227 Год назад

Also there was soviet T-74 project that was even before TTB

@coffee0093 Год назад

the M1 TTB looks straight out of an RTS game

@Nero-Caesar Год назад

I mean the M1 ttb and obj 195 were in devlopment pretty much the same time

@hansgostahall238 Год назад

You should play the M60A3 TTS

@StupidStuart1 Год назад

Hey spookston I has a question, why can some tanks like the IT-1 fire on the move while stuff like the ratel 20 and warrior IFVs? Anyway great video man!

@Spookston Год назад

Depends on how the missile it guided. The IT-1 uses radio guidance while most other missiles use wires.

@StupidStuart1 Год назад

@@Spookston Ah right tank you, I just looked it up and sure as heck the MILAN atgm is wire guided also I have a request, when you find time to suffer could you play the british striker? It would be funny to see!

@user-op8fg3ny3j Год назад

@@Spookston can I ask how did you become so knowledgeable with AFVs? Was it by accident or did you read lots of books?

@02suraditpengsaeng41 4 месяца назад

Once I talk to random person They just flat out upset me and scream something like Space race

@HighSpeedFudd762 Год назад

I feel like this would be a cool premium

@harleylane0583 Год назад

Hello spookston

@Spookston Год назад

Hey

@Silver_Prussian Год назад

I think It was the soviets who were actualy the first to experiment with the unmanned turret tank design with their obj.450 aka the t-74 which started in 1971

@Spookston Год назад

It was never built

@Silver_Prussian Год назад

@@Spookston yeah but experimented and researched the idea quite a lot

@_Admin_01. Год назад

AFAIK the T-74 never got past the blueprint.

@Spookston Год назад

@@Silver_Prussian If the criteria for being first in the category is merely drawing up the idea first, then you could look back to the initial concepts made for the MBT-70 in 1964. One of those designs also had an externally mounted gun with crew in the hull.

@Silver_Prussian Год назад

@@Spookston no, i am just mentioning it cause it seems like an interesting tank as whole as well that it made nato worry and revisit the concept, also a lot bias people think both sides got the idea from the other and say that one is just a copy of the other but i dont think thats true at alll both the m1ttb and the obj195 developed independently without the creators knowing somebody else is working on a simular project.

@devendoffing7004 Год назад

Gaijin won’t add the upgraded armor to the SEP cause it’s still classified. When has that ever stopped them before lmao. And isn’t Relikt’s capabilities also still classified?

@csorbalaszlo1920 Год назад

Getting data an classified russian tank still easier than getting data from any NATO tank

@devendoffing7004 Год назад

@@csorbalaszlo1920 True lmao. Didn’t Gaijin make a statement that they won’t use classified info tho? Really can’t trust the Russians

@CaptPro Год назад

Spookston? Whats letting you upload videos so often now?

@vap0rw1se Год назад

can you play the delat torn for your next gameplay video?

@KaanTechCrazy Год назад

Hey Spook, why don’t you design your own ideal tank? Would love to see what you can come up with.

@TheKenji2221 Год назад

So basically the only reason the M1 didn't go for autoloader is money

@a-10brrrrrrrrrrr72 Год назад

Also efficiency

@Dandroid_1 Год назад

I would keep the design as is, but 'merkava-fy' it and move the crew capsule to the back, that way even if they do take a Hull hit from the front, they have a little extra survivability. A side or rear shot is going to kill any tank no matter what anyway, so may as well slap a door on the back.

@warelite5368 Год назад

3:34 the wilbwind 😢

@lwot9034 Год назад

Can you do a video on the marder and other German ifvs at that time please

@Spookston Год назад

Perhaps

@The_D0ge Год назад

Hey Spookston you should make a video on the Object 268

@bornonthebattlefront4883 Год назад

Hey spook, plz play the Italian C13 T90 I wanna know your thoughts on the C13 platform as whole

@WoooshProductions Год назад

LTVEX-3 video plz

@gamingwolffox7121 Год назад

do a video about the conway

@keenanday8132 Год назад

Hey spookston, can u rate our personal tank designs and rate them

@n.a.4292 Год назад

I think the next American Tank will probably still have a manned turret, but with a 5th crew member in the hull to manage the Electronic Warfare Suite and Drones.

@Joe_Friday Год назад

Copy and paste from my previous comment: I like the idea of making a new generation of tanks. Some are saying we should go to the 130mm Rheinmetall or the 140mm Nexter. Are either one of those guns electrothermal chemical guns like the 120mm (if converted to ETC) on the Abrams X? Would their rounds be more powerful than the new rounds for the Abrams X's 120mm? I think a 4th crew member should be added so he can help operate secondary and tertiary weapon systems such as the 30mm canon, hero drones, etc. I'd say mount a .50 paired with a crows system on top. Add some active countermeasures to go along with the already present passive ones. Add reactive armor. Is it true these tanks will have javelins? That would be a weapon system the 4th crew member could utilize while the gunner/commander are concentrating on primary targets. As far as a tank platoon goes, maybe the lead tank of the platoon could use reconnaissance drones in place of hero drones.

@Spookston Год назад

Crews will only get smaller, not larger. The Army has expressed interest in an autoloading mechanism for the next generation MBT. The loader could be retained as a systems operator, but I highly doubt they would move to a five man crew, especially since the military is having greater difficult recruiting people.

@Joe_Friday Год назад

@@Spookston That's why I think having a fourth crew member would be ideal. Not only as another set of eyes 👀 but also another set of hands 👐🏻 for maintenance 🔧 🔩. I think the fourth member would be ideal for operating secondary and tertiary weapon systems such as additional ATGMs and surveillance/attack drones, etc.

@n.a.4292 Год назад

@@Spookston There's also the possibility of a "Remote Crewmember" managing Drones for more than one tank remotely from a forward base.

@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Год назад

>Slips in completely revamped M10 idea Crew position 5 Random Task is back on the menu, boys.

@Vibakari Год назад

Honestly thought this was gonna be about the t14 from ww2 they all look alike

@Jello-i8w Год назад

Please do a vid on leo1a5 it's so overshadowed

@ravenouself4181 26 дней назад

wasn't there a couple of soviet concept tank that also probed the idea of the "crew in hull" layout? so, even the mightly object-195 isn't the first.

@Y3SkyBreaker Год назад

Is there a reason why the crew is still in the front of the tank at this point? If all of the viewports are electronic displays, wouldn't it make more sense to have them at the rear of the vehicle?

@z3r0tonine Год назад

well, that's something new...

@yesyess5168 Год назад

Try bringing out the Bradley M3A3 and using it for anti air (it appears as if it has radar somehow?)

@yesman6559 Год назад

Yes

@theohisherik2524 Год назад

Hey spookston, just wondering where you found the TACOM source on conclusion of the yom kippur war.

@Spookston Год назад

Hearings on Military Posture and H.R. 5068 (H.R. 5970), page 168

@maggidada Год назад

make a video about large calliber gun ifv better then low caliber gun ifv and what would be your opinin

@SHEEPS_123 Год назад

you should play some games with oddbawz in the xm803, PLS

@raketny_hvost Год назад

Should be called "American Obj.195"

@Storlans Год назад

crew in hull concept the S-tank?

@Farmuhan Год назад

Can you play Merkava Mk.4M and talk about it?

@zoof3605 Год назад

I saw that name change spookston...

@Armless45 2 месяца назад

3:33 what was that whirbelwind doing?

@lippytheoneguy8968 Год назад

Still think the CATTB is the coolest tank ever made. Outclasses the TTB in every way

@connordalton4553 Год назад

Technically wasn't even the 195, since the Ob'yekt 278 was a thing. Or was it 287? Regardless, one of those two did it back in the sixties.

@FMHikari Год назад

Nobody talking about the Challenger with the Falcon turret from Jordan...

@Spookston Год назад

That's a low profile manned turret. Not the same thing.

@FMHikari Год назад

@@Spookston Oh no, the point isn't that it's remote or not. It's just that i find it equally cool to the remote ones, but little to no one talk about these just because they aren't that special.

@dareka9425 Год назад

It's only natural that people would compare the Abrams X to the T-14 Armata. The Armata is quite recent and made quite a buzz and suddenly here comes a next gen Abrams proposal with similar designs. Only super tanks nerds, some with RU-vid channels, would bring up fact sheets about some obscure experimental tanks from a century of tank development into the discussion.

@tuckcollins8276 Год назад

I love the men in the hull design, but I think it is a dead end for tank design.

@gustavdripolf6212 Год назад

Wouldn't Sweden have been even earlier with the concept of the crew in the hull with our UDES 19 (basically an strv 103 with a gun mounted on the hull, similar to the AGS)? which was one of the many prototypes presented in the Swedish UDES project that started in 1974.

@Spookston Год назад

That had a low profile turret, not the same thing as the remote turret used by the TTB.

@gustavdripolf6212 Год назад

@@Spookston oh. Okey. Thanks for clarifying :)

@Dredgno Год назад

Drinking game: take a shot each time a TURMS dies

@Clemens-oq9us Год назад

I don't know if this would be acceptable for you, but Armored Warfare has a lot of those prototype tanks. And unlike WT there is the possibility to test drive every tank, tech tree or premium, doesn't matter. Maybe it helps to visualize the vehicle you are talking about. AW isn't the best or realistic tank game, but they have quite a lot of modern and prototype tanks. And especially in connection with the prototypes in your videos I think this could be a possibility to visualize those . Just an idea though.