The Dangerous Bax EQ brings the audio into another dimension. Like, "here is all the weight and glory your audio could have, and i'll do that with sparkling crystal transparency".
Access Analog recommends everybody to update to at least v6.0.16. The rate of the rig will be $89,99 per hour, subscriptions are available as well. To use the discount coupon (hidden in the video somewhere), go to the "Reserve" page and find the Infrasonic device and click into there. Then pick a time from the calendar and add the reservation to the cart. Then apply the coupon in the cart.
theres plugins of all of these, do you plan on making a comparison video? that would probably be interesting EDIT: im aware of paul third, i mean these specific units
I was planning on doing a shoot out vs. Plugin Alliance/Acustica Audio BAX EQ, Acustica' Magenta/Pulsar Audio's Massive EQ vs. the Massive Passive plus the Maag EQ comparisons but alas, the service costs $71/hour. It's far out of my budget to do such a test...plus all that extra gear would affect the tone vs. plugins.
I’ve been using access analog for 4ish months now and absolutely love it. There is definitely the fact that I now have pieces of gear I absolutely want to buy but also the expense factor is an interesting topic to me because they offer unlimited use of the gear for $600 for 6 months. So at $100/month that’s much cheaper than buying all the gear I use regularly with AA. However, you get into the discuss of renting vs owning. A service like this you don’t own it so your money isn’t going into owning the gear but it’s also much less expensive and the pros of not needing to service the gear and having recall outweigh my personal need for owning the gear. For me personally it’s been an excellent option but there are downsides such as having to wait for gear to become available. That has been the biggest issue I’ve experienced. So even with a subscription I will still reserve the gear for an allotted amount of time. I think it’s definitely something that will work amazing for some and not be worth it to others but I can say for me personally it has really been a great tool and I love using it.
Our Latin PNC got us covered from el pais del italia: Acustica Audio has some of the best plugins close to hardware more than any company. Yes, more so than FabFilter...which does a better job making stuff sound good in the digital domain whereas Acustica Audio makes stuff not only sound good in the digital domain, but also with a lot of analogue sounding lushiness (i.e. hybrid domain (analog x digital)). What about Ozone? What about it? Jajajajaja rsrsrsrsrs
Considering you need to book time as though physically in their studio… I’m wondering how many of these particular set ups they have? It wouldn’t take long for a few hundred musicians around the world to overload the demand, especially if there was only one arrangement of all of these pieces. 🤔
I use Access Analog all the time for some mix bus bits and mastering work and I love it. Great to see the guys adding this mastering chain in too and I'm eager to try it out. It would be really awesome in the future to be able to use these beautiful pieces of hardware individually as you can with the RND Portico ii. Wanna get my hands on that hardware Bax as I use the Acustica Audio plugin, but I would love to have the hardware in my chain. Love the video.
This was also interesting from the accessibility point of view. For example I couldn't physically turn the knobs on analog gear, but using them through robots like this would open that world for me too.
Looks like the Aria Mastering service but with a lot more options and tweaking flexibility.... which is pretty neat because I find Aria Mastering to be limited when it comes to getting the sound you want.
Nebula Surge EQ Sounds just as good It’s a Live Analog Sampled Gorge Massingburg GML EQ Cost about $10,000 brand new With Surge You can switch to Hi or Low Bell or Shelf and a more Narrow or Wider Q
I think this may genuinely be the future, though we're not there yet. Like he says, imagine all of our plugins are literally just accessing hardware gear in the cloud. Right now, I think it's not worth it to mix a whole track, but if you're working on a whole album or a slew of tracks that need final mastering, this is a great way to give them weight and depth
As a German, I was surprised hearing you using the word Fingerspitzengefühl. I didn't know that this was a loanword in English. So, thank you! I learned something new today.
It's very impressive and so cool to be able to test gear I could not even imagine buying because of my budget. However, the price per hour for this mastering chain is really crazy expensive. While I would agree to try it once, I would never use it in the long term. Hiring a mastering engineer for one song would be cheaper than renting this chain, plus he would certainly know better how to use the gear than me guessing. Maybe at half the price it would start being interesting.
Same here! I've been using mine for years, started off with the original version, now I've got the Portico II version. The compressor is so insanely clean. Not that you should, but you can have like 25+ dB of GR happening into that thing without any discernible artifacts.
i love how after that one time you painted your nails and people in the comments gave you shit for it you just started going so hard with it and i love it
This is amazing! Though I need more seasoning on plugins before I invest but great for the people who are already great at the craft of mixing and mastering I'll definitely be trying this out in the future.
Wyste you are my hero, i have to admit I had this idea in the 90s, but the tech wasn't realistically available, love this concept is now available, mind blowing really!
I can't see myself using this, because I'd have to pay and plan again for revisions. Since you do there is something you might have missed at the end of the video that may be of use at 19:02 . That's a free coffee right there! Enjoy your week.
@@akagerhard Hey Gerhard! I did catch that actually but thanks for the heads up! I prefer mix analog actually when I do use these kinds of services. The response is so much better and you don't have the same latency issues you do with Access Analog. AA has WAY more choices but I just prefer that with MA you work on the website rather than using a plugin in your session. Hope you are doing well bud!
am I the only one who wants to pull their hair out from how dope this is!!!! gonna get unlimited for a month and rock out for my sreamo sludge metal project im dropping soon
So is there a constant waiting list because only one user at a time? 🤔 Edit: Oooh. So the mechanised gear was just for convoluting them, I guess. You can tell where my brain instantly went to. Thought we were accessing them in realtime. Re-edit: okay, I get it now! Timetabled usage, direct access to gear in realtime. Double And how cool this is!
I really like the concept; something similar did Thomann with Guitar Pedals, but was really super annoying cause seconds of delays. I love how this chain sounds, and is still strange the capability of control something overseas. The latency is still annoying to listen (also some crack noise), but for mastering purpose it's ok (I suppose better internet connection can help, something that I do not have ahaha); but about mixing, I think that will not be reliable, too much latency to be able to work during mixing
You skipped the heart and soul of the MBP, which is the stereo width/depth section. Just saying. Nevertheless, cool thing to watch you play around with access analog, using it myself for inspiration sometimes :)
The biggest downside to cloud-based plug-ins is recall. You're at the whim of the provider for backwards compatibility (ex: old chains and gear) and they have no financial reason to maintain it like that. Want to open a project next week, no problem. Want to open the same project a few years from now... Good luck :-/
Very interesting premise and sounds nice, but I guess I'm a bit confused. How many physical units exist for them to allow this kind of "remote control?" If a compressor is currently being used by someone else, will it cause a queue in when you'll be able to access the equipment?
As someone who uses access analog (or mix analog, same idea of gear in the cloud) when clients request analog be used in a master, its really simple and easy to use. You have to reserve spots on the website or request access from the plugin. I personally like to reserve as its guaranteed but if you attempt to request a piece of gear that's being used, it will boot you out and say that its currently reserved/in use if I am remembering correctly. No queue's sadly, but its been a bit since I've used it so that might have changed.
@AJ Plays Piano thanks for the insight. I can definitely see that becoming frustrating for some producers but hopefully if this program excells the studio will be able to find workarounds and fund more gear availability
Even with RU-vid compression you can hear the quality of analogue gear. I would like to hear some A/B comparison with the closest plugin equivalent. (UADs Massive Passive, for example)
I've never heard a BAX simulation that comes even close to this. Wow, this is like a very different story. I'm listening on quite expansive calibrated open back headphones and this experiene now is just insane. GAS is back I guess, damn. Poor future me.
Anyone else slowly watching his balance diminish? :) How is this scaleable? It's super cool, but how many Manley's do they have and will your session sound different the next time you get a different console? Mind blown.
Life's funny. I have spend thousands of hours/days studying the mixing mastering side. But when the time comes I generally never mess with the "sweetening" that I haven't already baked in. What the hell am I studying anyway...haha I would say I am "pleased" with the level I get things and don't want to enter that rabbit hole into audiophilia. Truth be told the spectrum remixing stuff is going to revinvent the wheel alongside AI. I can remember building a space ship in the dirt as a child, things have not really progressed much music is the spaceship to another world. This is a clever idea, I knew cloud stuff would be a big deal and this is a whole nother take on it.
Take also a look a mix analog I was firstly played with there Elysia chain year ago and after helping then. They give some free Kredits back in 2019. Because i don't know much about there tool i was getting some not so good results but two days ago i was making thing that a incredible with digital stuff or at least my plugins
I didn't see what they using for AD/DA conversion. Like, you send a digital signal that has to convert to analog and then back to digital. What are they using exactly?
I would love to get customized robot 'hands' for my own outboard gear so i could use it as a plugin 😂. I do think it's a cool service, but I'm curious how hard it is to book a day/time. i know you've featured this brand on your show a lot through the years, it's pretty expensive though. probably better long term to just buy the gear if you are a serious studio, of course you get the added bonus of no maintenance, plugin recall, and no need to buy more racks/patch bays as your gear haul expands.
I wonder if a cloud option in the future would be available for highly complex digital recreations (thinking Acustica plugins on steroids) of analogue gear using extremely high spec servers I.e not taxing your cpu and no limits on availability of units, just server capacity?
Shiiite, I'll use it just for that Infrasonic Transformer. Just that alone made it great. I wanna buy just that to run my bass through! The secret sauce
You basically Could use Surge EQ and the LBus Comp and Taipe with Nebula / and or Jam with Acustica Audio And ASH on your Post Out Bus Will do just as good of a job as access analog are better I have my own Analog Rack UAD Volt 476 and A SoundCraft LX7II I actually do better in my own studio with Mixing with Nebula, then running it through my own analog gear And then Mastering With Acustica Audio Cola2 Tulip Sand2 Or Amethyst 4 I’ve shot that method out against access analog And I’ve beat it Several times, it’s that latency It stops you from really getting precise enough with it because you just can’t work with their gear in real time
Damn... How does it work, are there always chains available? Somekind of CUE system? they cant have infinite gear... would love a tour of their facilities.
Hi. If I understand correctly you are saying that through a digital interface on my computer I can drive physical devices overseas in real time? my question is how many people can access those physical devices at the same time? ...what am I missing?
Question: how can be possible to manage the analog gear in whatever time I want? I know that also other service exist but they are on demand with booking hour cause of course analog gear are not "non-tangible things like plugins" so how can be always available the machine I want to remotely control?
Be interesting to see how many credit you use just experimenting to get a sound. Also, need to know if the unused credits roll over on the monthly subscription. Also I'm not really getting the credits per hour thing, the setup you're using is saying 810cr/hour here and you only get 30 credits on the monthly subscription?
Seems like a really cool service but I would rather have next to zero latency because my brain goes nuts when i don't get immediate feedback. I think it's cheaper to just buy all the plugin versions of these units and be just as happy with I'd bet 99.99999% accurate results. And not worry about getting the craving to master only to find out you cant reserve your gear at that moment. Let's face it most of the listeners still listen to crappy SirusXM radio or MP3's. so sad :(
Honestly I am very skeptik about how this system could really be available as they said in real time, also taking in account the price of their service, the web bandwidth for many users online and the cost of all these gears. I think they developed and used this robot machine to SAMPLE at very High High quality ALL the possibile combinations of knob settings , simply
Can you give me some advice? would love to see a video on this... I want to buy a pair of compressors and I only have enough money to do it once. call it a cap of $1000 per channel. i could go a bit above but prefer not to. I was planning on some 1176 clone but found the RND 543 and am thinking maybe its better to get a neve product over a clone. its cheaper than a wes audio mimas but i dont see anyone really talking about it.
Ugh. GAS! This demo just reminds me that plugins for mastering at home or ITB so weak compared to chains like this. A few plugs get close, and it depends on the genre, but even though the Massive Passive wasn't doing much, it really gave a great dimension to the mix. I use Manley channel strips in my UAD setup a lot. But it's really about 70%, not 90% as many like to claim, as good as the real thing when it comes to these classic units. Note Wytse's reaction. We don't hear that when he reviews expensive plugins like the Amek Mastering compressor. Finally, the price of this chain is ridiculous. For pro's only. They need a budget version with three pieces of gear.
Nice idea, but is this not really and analog chain accessible via a digital network / path. So it's a hybrid chain, D/A-A/D setup..... somewhat. Still, like you videos and knowledge.
All digital sources need to be converted. Unless you’re working from tape it’s never 100% analog. This is a analog chain. Conversion s always necessary when working on digital audio with analog gear.
