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The Ancient Paths - 1st Interview with LDS Historian Sandra Tanner 

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This is the seventh episode of "The Ancient Paths" Christian television program, hosted by Pastor Jason Wallace. In this episode, Pastor Wallace interviews Mormon historian Sandra Tanner of Utah Lighthouse Ministries. For more information on Utah Lighthouse Ministries, visit their website at www.utlm.org. The program airs Wednesday nights at 8 pm on KTMW-TV20, a station that is available in Utah and parts of surrounding states. The program is sponsored by Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna, Utah. (Originally aired 1/23/08)

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@danvan2683
@danvan2683 4 года назад
The amount of integrity from this woman is staggering, so many find the truth and leave, she is in the middle of the problem trying to point it out while they make her a villain, it's incredible the importance of the kind of love this demonstrates, I had to meet her once, sweet lady.
@philiplyonwalkerjr.7763
@philiplyonwalkerjr.7763 8 лет назад
50 years ago, Sandra & Jereld Tanner set me straight on Mormonism vs Christ.
@annelefevre9457
@annelefevre9457 2 года назад
I’m positive you haven’t “been set straight” yet!
@JhutaNabi
@JhutaNabi 2 года назад
@@annelefevre9457 Yeah, right. Whatever. Proverbs 1:7, 22 Proverbs 26:5
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 7 месяцев назад
​@@annelefevre9457Give it a rest, you Mormon troll.
@renehernandez9803
@renehernandez9803 8 лет назад
God bless Sandra Tanner!
@hollayevladimiroff131
@hollayevladimiroff131 Год назад
Thank you for the truth, so grateful for these people that expose the Mormon church!!
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Год назад
You might enjoy some of our more recent documentary-style videos. They're all on this channel, but the Mormon ones are easily found at www.lds.video.
@thecatman4ever
@thecatman4ever 5 лет назад
Great first interview w/Sandra Tanner. She has been a major inspiration to me in my upcoming exit from the Mormon Church. She is a wealth of knowledge and the world is a much better place for the work she and her husband have done to expose the fraud of the Mormon church and to help others come into Christ. Thank you for your videos.
@annelefevre9457
@annelefevre9457 2 года назад
Oh yes, she does ALOT OF GOOD! Hmmmmmm. I don’t think so!
@JhutaNabi
@JhutaNabi 2 года назад
@@annelefevre9457 Stop trolling!
@chaplainmattsanders4884
@chaplainmattsanders4884 7 месяцев назад
Such a smart & articulate teacher. Blessings on Sandra for her steady work, and peace amidst the season of grief.
@alanam9103
@alanam9103 4 года назад
She's amazing!!!
@alanam9103
@alanam9103 4 года назад
I'm an ex Catholic and never knew Jesus when attending! I left at 17 and was born again at 20...
@stewartgray4301
@stewartgray4301 7 лет назад
I echo much of what Mrs. Tannrer said.
@bryan2127
@bryan2127 10 месяцев назад
Excellent content. LDS members need to wake up
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! You might also enjoy our more recent documentary-style videos. They're all on this channel, but the LDS ones are most easily accessed at www.lds.video.
@gregdavis4408
@gregdavis4408 11 лет назад
The Bible says Jesus was born in Bethlehem, not Jerusalem; so the Book of Mormon is wrong. Matthew 2:1. Luke 2:4-7. Micah 5:2.
@RenaissanceManDave
@RenaissanceManDave Год назад
Land of Jerusalem which includes Bethlehem. Not much of an argument
@JesustheWordChrist
@JesustheWordChrist Год назад
It’s good that Jason continued on about Catholicism. Nice to see he didn’t hold his tongue. Much of Christianity is headed straight back to Rome.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Год назад
We're committed Protestants. You might enjoy this video we made. . . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-utIAnY5I8CU.html
@renehernandez9803
@renehernandez9803 8 лет назад
The Torah is not a lie.
@onethreeify
@onethreeify Год назад
is there anywhere i can find the entire version of psalm 80 that they sing at the beginning in choir? it is a beautiful rendition!
@gaozhi2007
@gaozhi2007 11 лет назад
He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved. I thought baptism was required for salvation as a proof of faith? Am I mistaken?
@mckster56
@mckster56 2 года назад
It is a public affirmation of being saved but not required. The thief on the cross brought NOTHING but his belief and Christ said tonight you will be with me in paradise
@RenaissanceManDave
@RenaissanceManDave Год назад
Obviously she does not believe in ongoing revelation. Where is she today? Also, the Book of Mormon is about Gods dealings with a culture and group through one families eyes, not every family, so of course many things are left out. In addition, most religions believe in an afterlife and throughout the Bible temples played key roles in the people’s lives. I don’t find her arguments very sound. And the fact that she is so adamant about leaving the church actually causes serious truth seekers to look into the lds church, which continues to grow and expand and flourish. Her opinion will die out with time, but the church rolls onward. 300 plus temples and growing.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Год назад
Please check out our free videos at www.lds.video. We've taken the time to listen to LDS arguments and respond. Will you reciprocate?
@jaquino451
@jaquino451 Год назад
Classic view of this. The LDS church is still have the same views on race as they did 100 years ago. They have just softened their views on race and worded it differently. Like interracial marriage. The LDS youth manual still teaches that interracial marriage is bad. Racist teaching in the BOM is still there.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv Год назад
Be sure to check out our more recent documentary-style videos on this channel. The easy way to access the ones on Mormonism is to go to the site www.lds.video.
@onethreeify
@onethreeify Год назад
17:48
@walkergf
@walkergf 11 лет назад
(New Testament | Philippians 2:5 - 6) 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
@sagealito
@sagealito 4 года назад
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@walkergf
@walkergf 11 лет назад
(New Testament | 1 Cor 15:27 - 29) 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. 29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
@annelefevre9457
@annelefevre9457 2 года назад
If you aren’t a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints you are not going to present a good light upon our church.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 года назад
The LDS church presents half-truths and outright lies, claiming to be the one, true and living church on the face of the earth. We believe no one has anything to fear from the truth, but liars. www.lds.video
@annelefevre9457
@annelefevre9457 2 года назад
ancientpathstv Let me tell you the LDS church DOES NOT LIE , nor do they present half truths. You just don’t like hearing the things that come from our Heavenly Father. They don’t change the principles. They have changed some of the ways they presents the principles. When you were young your hair was a certain way. Now you’re older, your hair has changed…..turning gray., and whatever.. but it still covers your head. Same w/ our church.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 2 года назад
@@annelefevre9457 You didn't bother to watch the videos at www.lds.video, did you? We don't fear to hear our critics. Why do you?
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 7 месяцев назад
​@@annelefevre9457You are brainwashed by the Mormon cult church leaders. Learn to think for yourself and do some deep research on the history of the Mormon Church. You are a mere puppet to the Mormon Cult Church
@annahkurtin9665
@annahkurtin9665 5 лет назад
Sandra believes the "christian" church is the body of CHRIST? Which christian was crucified for our sins?
@bryanpratt5850
@bryanpratt5850 3 года назад
Sandra gets her beliefs from the Bible. Here are a couple verses: Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 1 Corinthians 12:27 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1co.12.27.KJV for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Ephesians 4:12 KJV bible.com/bible/1/eph.4.12.KJV Where do you get your believes? God bless you.
@walkergf
@walkergf 11 лет назад
(Book of Mormon | Alma 7:10) 10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, "at Jerusalem" which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God. Even the word "at" means close or near by. And Jesus was born in the city of David: (New Testament | Luke 2:11) 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
@rachelbryner3669
@rachelbryner3669 2 года назад
Read the 1830 edition of the book of mormon...It says that Mary is the mother of the very eternal God. JS changed it later-he did four revisions before he died ...
@JhutaNabi
@JhutaNabi 2 года назад
@Gaylen W Quoting Luke 2:11 is incorrect and taking the Bible out of context. How do you explain Luke 2:4, just a few verses earlier? “Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the CITY OF DAVID, WHICH IS CALLED BETHLEHEM, because he was of the house and lineage of David.” (emphasis mine).
@walkergf
@walkergf 2 года назад
@@JhutaNabi The word "at" means close or near by. Bethlehem is near Jerusalem. Therefore the Book of Mormon is correct.
@JhutaNabi
@JhutaNabi 2 года назад
@@walkergf I think that it requires stretching the meaning of “at” to cover for what seems to be Joseph Smith’s slip up. But whatever… thanks for the response, though.
@walkergf
@walkergf 2 года назад
@@JhutaNabi You are welcome. Is that the only problem you have with the Book of Mormon?
@scottgoertzen5368
@scottgoertzen5368 8 лет назад
43:10 - Polytheism is Atheism? Oxford's take Polytheism: The belief in or worship of more than one god. Atheism: Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. How are these the same thing? Richard Dawkins, "'We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.' If this is all the case, then Christianity is Atheism too.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 8 лет назад
+Scott Goertzen My argument is an old one. Early Christians were accused by the pagans of atheism, because they did not worship idols. Second century Christian apologists, such as Aristides, responded by arguing that polytheism is actually atheism, because Zeus and Apollo were nothing more than "exalted men." The pagans gods were too small to be considered "gods" at all. Dawkins and company have replaced Zeus and Apollo with themselves. They believe they are the arbiters of truth, thus putting themselves in the place of God.
@silveriorebelo8045
@silveriorebelo8045 3 года назад
mormonism is atheist: they don't believe in a creator God that is the origin of everything - their 'gods' are members of the human species that have been reproducing from infinite times in the past and will go on reproducing for ever
@christalronbrewer9290
@christalronbrewer9290 5 лет назад
The essence of life is to grow and become and to overcome. I teach my two year old different then my twenty year old. Are you being changed by Gods grace. As a child grows up we mature more and our understanding is deepened. If you read the book of Mormon you did not understand it .again the essence of life is to grow and become and to overcome. Repent repent repent repent repent repent repent. A child can grow and become an adult. We can grow and become like our heavenly parents. Wemon do not throw their bodies away after resurrection. I am only one and the Father of my children that does not mean that there cannot be more Father's. .The same is true with our Heavenly parents. Our heavenly Father is only one and the Father of our spirits. That does not mean that there cannot be more Father's. Just as i am the only father of my children. one Father of our spirits. That does not mean that there cannot be more Father's. There is no other beside me as i am the only father of my children. The same is true with our Heavenly parents. God is not God if He can not say look there is nothing over there because of your faithfullness obedience training development and who and what you have become i give you power and authority to go and make yourself a world. It may take meny years after your resurrection. But God is not God if He can not do that. Repent repent repent repent repent repent repent repent. I have never read anywhere in the holy bible where Christ Himself did any writing except for in the sand in the new testiment. So who wrote the bible prophets of God true prophets and apostles. The only way to go in the time of Moses was to follow Moses. The only way to go in the time of Noah was to follow Noah. Sence this spinning blue planet and all the worlds of God were created anytime we as real children of a real Father in heaven have wanted to grow and become more like our heavenly parents God has always called and worked with true living prophets. Repent repent repent repent. One Lord one faith and one baptizem. The only way to go in the time of Noah was to follow Noah if you wanted the living word of God. Truly the living word of God is the mouth of a true living prophet. Again i teach my two year old different then my twenty year old. As we become our understanding is deepened. Oh yes God has always wanted us to become more and be more ready. We teach our to grow and overcome to become more . A baby is for from being an adult. We are for from being a God .God is not God if we can not grow up and become like He is. Repent repent repent repent. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints has grown up in experience knowledge understanding and maturity. Repent repent repent repent. If there is meny faults prophets where is God's true prophets and apostles. There was only one way to go in the time of Jesus Christ and that was to follow Him. He was the only begotten of the Father and meny people made fun of Him .But Christ had the truth. They made up all kinds of lies about Christ but he had the truth. .Again the living word of God is the mouth of a true living prophet. We are more than a physical body. If we are more than a physical body where did the spirit come from. Why call Him Father if He is not our Father. God is the Father of our spirits. Christ is the only begotten of the Father. Repent repent repent repent repent. You could not develop faith if you new everything and if you new everything you would be a God. A child is not an adult. We are not Gods. But a baby can grow and become an adult. We can grow and become like our heavenly parents. ...i am the only father of my children no other Father beside me once i am the father of my children. One Lord one faith and one baptizem. One way to go in the time of Lord Jesus. One way to go in the time of Noah. How long can you tred water. Very few listed to Noah but he had the truth. The living word of God is the mouth of a true living prophet. Repent repent repent repent. I know that Jesus is the Christ the Savior of the whole world. I know that Mormon was a real man and a prophet of God. I also know that Alma Moroni Mosiah Nephi Lehi and meny others were also true prophets of God on this side of the world. I know that Joseph Smith was a real man and a prophet of God. He brought a lot of light and truth to the world. I have never heard of a prefect prophet. Prophets have to grow in faith experience knowledge and understanding to. The essence of life is to grow and become more. God is the Father of our spirits.. ok God is the same yesterday today and forever in that He wants us to grow and become more like He is. Again i teach my two year old different then my twenty year old. What is true for one may not be true for another. It depends on our maturity and understanding. Repent repent repent repent repent. For to be saved in Christ grace you must change in His grace and become more like our heavenly parents. Repent repent repent repent repent repent. Christ is the only begotten of the Father. That is what gave him the power to brake the bonds of death so that we all will be resurrected. God has always tought us according to our growth development and understanding through the living word of God witch is His true living prophets and apostles on the earth today. One Lord one faith and one baptizem. If you dod not follow Lord Jesus in the time of Lord Jesus Christ you did not have the living word of God. You can take the writings of dead prophets and make up all the churches you want and they do. The living word of God is the mouth of a true living prophet. Repent repent repent repent repent. The fact that we have the bible and the book of Mormon tells me that we need a living prophet. Oh it is not the Mormon church it is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints. Mormon was a real man and a prophet of God that lived a long time ago. Repent repent repent repent repent repent. I had polio when I was two years old. I have two leg braces and crutches now . God through His grace has been very good to me .i operate an auction business. I believe that God is more altanmently concerned with who we are and what we are becoming then He is in healing me. Repent repent repent repent and be charged by Gods grace. One Lord one faith and one baptizem. Repent
@fayelewis5476
@fayelewis5476 5 лет назад
You are a fallen, sinful created being. You are way less than God.
@FatherVampire
@FatherVampire 3 года назад
5:12 "...and then we went back to just, uh, taking the Bible as the Word of God, that it's complete, that whatever I need for Eternal Life is already laid out in the Bible; I don't need something more..." Wow! Those are some extremely hefty conclusions reached and accepted as factual... without any of the wonderful investigation, study and scrutiny to which they rightly subjected Mormonism in so successfully exposing its many false claims. Had they not stopped and given up at investigating Mormonism, they might have continued on to make some truly amazing discoveries and realizations about the Bible and, most especially, Christianity and its equally ludicrous claims, too. :) Why is it post-Mormons, like the wonderful Tanners who did so much to investigate and prove Mormonism false and the error in blind belief, so often go on to continue this same belief-driven blindness in falling hook-line-and-sinker for yet another equally unsubstantiated religion?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 3 года назад
Why is it that people like yourself assume others haven't investigated the Bible and carefully considered the claims of its critics? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iM5vQHGwnqA.html
@THEmightyQUINN777
@THEmightyQUINN777 6 лет назад
If you don’t understand Catholicism, which you obviously don’t, stick to talking about Mormonism and Protestantism.
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 6 лет назад
Check out our newest video at www.romancatholic.video.
@Sirach144
@Sirach144 5 лет назад
KC L Funny thing is you guys act like LDS toward your religion. I had a Catholic battle me on the fact that he believes that the Inquisition didn’t happen. They are in denial as much as Mormons are.
@walkergf
@walkergf 11 лет назад
The Book of Mormon says Jesus would be born "AT" Jerusalem. He was. (New Testament | Luke 2:11) 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (Old Testament | 2 Kings 14:20) 20 And they brought him on horses: and he was buried at Jerusalem with his fathers in the city of David. The City of David is "AT" Jerusalem. Jesus was born "AT" Jerusalem.
@joestim8707
@joestim8707 5 лет назад
Gaylen W excuse me; but, Luke. says in Bethlehem of Judea; not, At Jerusalem- I, am always amazed at how little Bible Mormons really know- even if some people do not like the Baptists-/ Penoacostal for their uncharitable was- a t least they are students of the Bible- that's more than I, can say about the LDS-!
@walkergf
@walkergf 11 лет назад
Is the city of David (Jesus Christ's birthplace) at Jerusalem? The Bible states that it is: (Old Testament | 2 Kings 14:20) 20 And they brought him on horses: and he was buried "at Jerusalem" with his fathers in the city of David. Since the city of David is indeed "at Jerusalem", as mentioned in the Bible, the Book of Mormon stated correctly that Jesus would be born "at Jerusalem:
@aaronlewis8948
@aaronlewis8948 6 лет назад
Incorrect. Go read Micah 5:2. The prophecy is the Messiah would be born would be in Bethlehem, not Jerusalem.
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 9 лет назад
She obviously doesn't want a prophet, but a Pope that is infallible. Prophets are ordinary men who have been called of God. They make mistakes too.
@shleyayanelay
@shleyayanelay 8 лет назад
They don't make mistakes in revelation if they are a true prophet.
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 8 лет назад
+Ashley Gleason, actually the bible has several prophesies that weren't fulfilled. Many prophesies are meant to prevent their dire predictions, by warning people of the consequences of their sins. Jonah is the obvious example. The people repented. Joseph Smith was one of the greatest prophets who ever lived. He had many prophesies, most of which were fulfilled to the letter.
@shleyayanelay
@shleyayanelay 8 лет назад
Which of Joseph's prophecies came true? Did ALL of his prophecies come true?
@robertrosskopf4641
@robertrosskopf4641 8 лет назад
Here is a book which lists over 400 prophecies, by and about him. www.amazon.com/Prophecies-Joseph-Smith-About-Fulfillment/dp/0882908421 Some of the prophecies can be found online at this site: www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_prophecies.shtml Perhaps my favorite is when he told Dr. Richards that the day would come when bullets would rain on him like hail, and men would fall on his right and on his left, but that he would survive without so much as a hole in his clothing. One year later, the prophecy was fulfilled - to the letter.
@shleyayanelay
@shleyayanelay 8 лет назад
Have all of his prophecies come true?
@westleyhegna7078
@westleyhegna7078 5 лет назад
God bless you are crazy lady who will gotohell
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 5 лет назад
God bears you His testimony in the Bible that Joseph Smith was a false prophet who will lead you to Hell. Please watch An Earnest Plea to Latter-day Saints here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PxqV5uJBsm8.html
@annelefevre9457
@annelefevre9457 2 года назад
ancientpathstv no I will not watch any more of your nonesense.
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 7 месяцев назад
​@@annelefevre9457What are you afraid of? You are a Mormon troll.
@kellyrolfe4300
@kellyrolfe4300 7 лет назад
its sad seeing a person making money opposing a religion.guess they have nothing better to do
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 7 лет назад
Kelly Rolfe Thomas Monson?
@ancientpathstv
@ancientpathstv 7 лет назад
I encourage you to go to www.lds.video. Mormons call what we believe an abomination to God, but it's supposedly unfair to respond.
@BelovedRogue1
@BelovedRogue1 7 лет назад
No, it's not sad, Joseph Smith was a liar, and the cult of Mormonism needs to be exposed.
@therndy1
@therndy1 6 лет назад
Kelly Rolfe There is zero evidence that any of the nephites lamenites existed there were no horses or elephants in the americas at the time specified in the Bom also ships that were tight like a dish with what could be made opening in the top and bottom for air so what happens to the animals people if it flips upside down ? Think about it it's called logic a fierce wind blew which even if it carried them at a walking pace would have circled the globe in the time frame given there was no steel in the americas at that time either the same rock Joseph used for his treasure hunting is the same rock he used to supposedly translate the Gold plates given that gold weighs 1202 lb a cubic foot the plates would have weighed 200 lbs even if you half that it's a 100 lbs you don't fight off 3 attackers and outrun said attackers carrying this weight for 3 miles it's true that Joseph had a extraordinary imagination given his moms Book where she tells of how he would tell stories about the inhabitants of ancient America their dress mode of transportation mode of warfare etc as if he had spent his whole life with them long before he created the Book of Mormon read the Book of Mormon and see how many current doctrines it contains baptism for dead no temple sealings no garments no that God was once a man no that Jesus is satans brother no that God lives near kolob no the Masonic dress and rituals performed in the temple no none are there Odd for a book that contains the fullness of the gospel it's called make it up as you go the Book of Mormon says God is a spirit not a man the Bible says God is a spirit yet Joseph saw God and Jesus and yet made no mention of it for 12 years none of his accounts of said event are consistent If I saw God I wouldn't keep it a secret for 12 years I'd know The date it happened my story would be consistent. Not it was one person two persons a angel many angels funny that the Book of Mormon was dictated to Joseph by God yet it has had almost 4000 changes made to it Jesus is God the father has been changed to Jesus is the son of God the father in all places what God wasn't sure originally did Joseph look at the plates later no they were taken away by the angel .it's Joseph's changing view on God that necessitated this change the Book of commandments has dramatic changes made to revelations just 2years later as if a all knowing God can't get it right the first time ! Joseph translated book of Abraham from what he said was written by the hand of Abraham Which are no more than common funerary texts which are not written within a 1000 years of Abraham Joseph said the kinderhook plates were a record of ham son of pharaoh which have now been proven to be created to fool Joseph a prophet would be able to discern a fraud Brigham young taught that Adam was God he also said the moon and the sun were inhabited where did he get that from Joseph hmmm so said prophets can't get that right yet we are supposed to believe Joseph when he says God was once a man Joseph lied about polygamy 11 of the women he married were married to other men D&C 132 makes no provision for this Book of Mormon says polygamy is a abomination in gods view yet D&C says God actually sanctioned said polygamy see the problems yet the Bible says if a angel teaches another gospel than the one in the Bible it is to be rejected So what we have with Mormonism is the wrong Gospel the wrong God the wrong Jesus Gordon hinckley past prophet of said Mormon church said we do not believe in the Jesus of the Bible the Jesus that they speak of is not the Jesus I speak of the Bible says that the Jesus of the Bible is the only way to God the Mormons believe that you must have Joseph's approval what is the chances that Mormons will get to Be Gods themselves? God says in Isaiah 43:10 Before me there was no God formed neither shall there be after me Isaiah 44 8 Is there a god beside me I know not any So it comes down to is a all knowing all powerful God wrong or Is Joseph wrong God declared his word will stand forever Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it Joseph said both God and Jesus were wrong or lying yet God sees the future Jesus prophecies that Jerusalem temple would be destroyed it was So who is more believable a man who used a rock to treasure hunt was convicted of glass looking married other men's wives lied about his polygamy claimed God was once a man the choice should be Obvious should it not !! Mormonism past teachings today's heresy will today's teaching become tomorrow's heresy one doesn't know is the Bible trustworthy ? there is more manuscript evidence for it than any books of antiquity the Dead Sea scrolls show remarkable consistency with today's bible So who is in a better position the one who takes God at his word that his word would stand forever. And That no one comes to God but through Jesus or the one that Goes before God and says Joseph said you and Jesus couldn't do what you said you could do and that we have to have Joseph's certificate to gain entry into heaven The logical choice is Gods way not Joseph's way what fault can God find in one that Believes Gods Word which is the Bible God said it i believe it that settles it . not a additional three other books that do not even agree with themselves let alone the Bible yes the Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus just like a Volkswagen repair manual is another car repair manual vs a corvette repair manual Neither one is about the same thing God does not say one thing then totally contradict what he said previously which is exactly what the Bom D&C & Pgp do The way to Know truth is not by simply praying about it did the Bereans hit there knees and pray to know if what they were being told was true ? No they went to the Scriptures to see if it was so what did Jesus do to make his proofs he referred to Scripture he had high regard for them any future scripture teachings must not be in discord with past teachings Same as a past prophet cannot contradict previous prophet what we have with Mormonism is a violation of all the above so when we go to the Bible it tells us not to follow false teachings or false prophets Religions People are free to make there own choices I just believe that they should be informed choices which the Mormon church does not do they do not inform potential converts to the fact that the Book of Mormon cannot be used to teach Mormon doctrine and in many instances teaches against it the Mormon church is more accurately named the church of JOSEPH SMITH of Latter Day Saints Go watch Jason kunzler byu Idaho speech. it's a great example of Joseph worship not Jesus God worship!! God does not share his glory For God is the only Righteous holy holy holy God yet Kunzler portrays Joseph as righteous etc is lying righteous hmmm see 10 commandments how many did Joseph break yet he's portrayed in the same class as Jesus by kunzler is marring other men's wives adultry immoral marrying sisters mothers& daughters 14yr olds Not bashing any religion it's just that the Mormon church is not what it tries to paint itself to be no Mormons are not Christians any more than Christians are Mormons they do not believe in the same things are buddists or those that follow the teachings of the ko-ran Mormons there are differences it's like saying a cat is a horse or a mouse is a dog Mormons believe in Jesus God it's just Joseph's Jesus God not the Bible's Jesus God
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It is so sad seeing a so called religion making money opposing God. Guess they have nothing better to do.
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