The Arch Linux Goober

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Today, we're installing a very special version of Arch Linux, Arch32, on an absolute goober of a Panasonic ToughBook handheld PC.
How painful could it possibly be?
Thanks ‪@MichaelAStanhope‬ for donating this lil' fella.
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🍎 Arch32: archlinux32.org/
🍎 Forum post about install issues: bbs.archlinux3...
🍎 SSD mod guide: www.instructab...
🍎 Great video mod guide by ‪@Morninglowe‬: • The Panasonic Toughboo...
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@ActionRetro 2 месяца назад

Support these retro computing shenanigans on Patreon! www.patreon.com/ActionRetro

@realdragonrude 2 месяца назад

When it doubt try to put a raspberry pi in it

@dustinb7967 2 месяца назад

"If you enjoy command line pain and suffering, consider subscribing." I feel seen.

@75slaine 2 месяца назад

lol, THAT'S MY JOB

@IngwiePhoenix 2 месяца назад

And I felt that a lot. xD

@perpetualcollapse 2 месяца назад

🫡

@burts06 2 месяца назад

well i like action retro command line suffering

@mattafaak 2 месяца назад

Michael MJD and Action Retro are now merging into a singular entity

@willpenington 2 месяца назад

If it's got a built in scanner it presumably would be fair game to print out every command in the Arch install guide as a barcode to avoid typing on the built in keyboard

@justinnamilee 2 месяца назад

We used to use these for field work in Northern BC... And I had to maintain them! You wanna talk about pain? These are pain. "Oops, I dropped it out of the helicopter and now it doesn't show anything on the screen, can you reboot it or something?"

@Wzeyisbacklmao 2 месяца назад

Must have been hell fixing those if that was an example of an accident

@Fay7666 2 месяца назад

I mean... the fact that it's even a possibility is amazing. Do that in a normal laptop and they'd be asking for the tube of magic tech glue instead.

@RKingis 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@TheTruz 2 месяца назад

6:35 "Fix the problem, the archlinux-keyring will." - Yoda

@clockblower6414 2 месяца назад

Yeah not the most intuitive but this has unborked me so many times after i dont update for months (on devices i dont use often at all)

@petar0402 2 месяца назад

Not so easy on 32-bit Arch. I had to disable security as well as it couldn't install ANYTHING with it enabled.

@clockblower6414 2 месяца назад

Damn thats a shame. Honestly on ancient hardware is probably fine taking an L on arch and just using something else that works out of the box

@Jackpkmn 2 месяца назад

@@petar0402 pacman-key --populate archlinux32 will fix it without having to disable the security first.

@Kiwi-tq2fy 2 месяца назад

I just installed Arch32 a few days ago, and 'pacman-key --init' and 'pacman-key --populate archlinux32' worked just fine

@Squonk06 2 месяца назад

That signature issue will keep coming up with this old hardware. One could say it's become the Arch nemesis to this kind of content.

@gluttonousmaximus9048 2 месяца назад

What's the exact culprit?

@cmposting 2 месяца назад

@@gluttonousmaximus9048 the issue is pretty much entirely since the i386 arch signatures are maintained by a singular person, and that person hasn't updated them in a while

@apollolux 2 месяца назад

Boooooooooo.

@TheRetroRoadshow 2 месяца назад

I know less than nothing about 3D printing, but it would be a crime to not 3D print a Fallout-style Pip-Boy shell and wrist-mount for this thing!

@ActionRetro 2 месяца назад

omg genius

@drewnewby 2 месяца назад

Fallout grub themes exist too.

@cappucci_n0 2 месяца назад

@@drewnewby Also you can make your own Fallout-styled terminal, just download the Fallout terminal background picture or extract it from the Fallout 3/New Vegas/4 if you know how to do that (unless your terminal doesn't support custom backgrounds. I know Konsole supports custom background) and apply it. Then download the FixedSys font and apply it as well, then set its color to #32f991 for green, #ecd051 for amber, #4cfbfe for blue or #d3feff for white (its actually greenish white). If there is a problem with the font not displaying properly, change its size (I set it to 11). For more authenticity, turn off the "Smooth fonts" (dunno about other terminals, but Konsole has that feature)

@Akselmoi 2 месяца назад

Kid: "I want a steamdeck" Mom: "we have a steam deck at home" Steamdeck at home:

@ccf_1004 2 месяца назад

I watched this video *on* a Steam Deck lol

@EnderShiru 2 месяца назад

I see Arch Linux 32 in the thumbnail and I already know he's in for suffering because of the eternally broken keyring that you have to fix

@EnderShiru 2 месяца назад

Not once in my life have I touched an Arch32 iso that didn't require the keyring to be initialized, populated, then refreshed at *some* point during the install. You should never have to do this.

@esseferio 2 месяца назад

I remember testing this as a mobile POS back in the day. My favorite demo was to throw it to the ground in front of anyone, just to show that the "Tough" moniker was indeed deserved.

@joeconti2396 2 месяца назад

The use of Goober and Nugget in this video makes me think Sean is slowly transforming into a certain shouty Australian man.

@Alicesmindisblown 2 месяца назад

HAPPY STRAYA DAY!

@TheCommunistRabbit 2 месяца назад

Shouty's like a melody in my head

@andreasbaumann6943 2 месяца назад

Cool. Thanks for making this video! We ArchLinux32 maintainers (the few of us) really appreciate. The issue with the keys is a constant source of trouble. There are various ways around it, like manually installing the archlinux32-keyring into the installation chroot. Also, ISOs don't always have the correct keys on them (they once got copied from the ISO to the chroot, so updating them after booting the ISO might also be an idea). And sometimes we (or should I say I) forget to have a timer for gpg renewals, so then I have to invent a time machine to go back fixing wrong keys..

@zhalberd 2 месяца назад

"Well its the middle of the week and I don't have a real job so..." I spit out my coffee

@iBolski 2 месяца назад

The company I work at is a utility company and one of the mobile apps I supported used the Panasonic Toughbooks, but they were basically a rugged laptop/tablet (you could fold the screen back on the unit to make it a complete touch device). Didn't know Panasonic made an even smaller version like what you have. At least the Toughbooks I supported had a full, actual keyboard on them. lol! But those were slow too running Windows XP. Luckily, I no longer support that app. Fun times!

@RyanMercer 2 месяца назад

Now that one IS pretty cool.

@forgottentechnology37 2 месяца назад

I bought a lot of 2 of these for very cheap on eBay a few months back. One is basically a parts machine but the other got the linux treatment. You’re reminding me to pull it out after work today as it’s been a bit.

@RinoaL 2 месяца назад

I'm glad you showed the SSD upgrade because I forgot how I did mine all those years ago. Gosh these things are slow.

@NielsPaul 2 месяца назад

*DankPods voice* “Look, it’s the goober!”

@nil0bject 2 месяца назад

Try `sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys` to fix the pacman signature error

@steveg5122 2 месяца назад

In the near future (late sept to be honest) i will be doing a via c7 laptop install of odd operating systems. Would you want me to benchmark arch32 on it?

@ActionRetro 2 месяца назад

oh yeah awesome!

@steveg5122 2 месяца назад

@@ActionRetro It is an Everex NC1500 Stepnote. 2gb ram 1.5ghz Via C7-M. with a S3 IGPU. What benchmarks would you want ran on it?

@steveg5122 2 месяца назад

Depending on how i do the storage, arch may be permament....or Haiku

@Wzeyisbacklmao 2 месяца назад

@@steveg5122 Mandatory haiku mention in action retro video

@steveg5122 2 месяца назад

@@ActionRetro I will share my results in the future

@kFY514 2 месяца назад

I love how the Weird OS Wednesday is currently just an Arch Day 😅

@hackthis02 2 месяца назад

When it's business time.... hamster mouse!

@DanteRugel 2 месяца назад

Why this comment is so low. Is beautiful

@RobertNicholas 2 месяца назад

Dang it all. I had the "big brother" of that Toughbook which I had to use to develop some software for a company I worked for. Stupidly I sent the machine back after it had sat in a forgotten corner of my house for the better part of a decade. DANG!

@gearheadtechnology 2 месяца назад

We use those style of machines at work for field workers. They usually have cell connectivity, so when workers go out and complete orders, they can easily complete the orders in the field. All the device needs to do is display text boxes so the workers can put in information about an address or meter and then save it.

@therobyouknowtv 2 месяца назад

Zorin OS Pro works great on one of this Panasonic's successors - the FZ-G1 Toughpad tablet PC, and x86-64 touchscreen tablet PC that runs Windows usually. All the touch screen gestures are supported.

@Geek-a-Zoid 2 месяца назад

Great video! I love those neat smaller computers

@alexisw4362 2 месяца назад

That thing's probably falling back to software rendering for Sauerbraten Cube 2-- it's a Poulsbo device, and AFAIK Linux never got working open-source 3D drivers for the odd GPU Intel used in those (the GMA 500 is a licensed component from PowerVR, not one of Intel's in-house designs like practically every other chipset they've ever made before and since). At least it worked at all. Linux support for GMA 500 and derivatives was sketchy for years after release, even for 2D-only desktop use.

@TheVampiur 2 месяца назад

GMA 500 support was shi.. on every platform. None operating system had more support beyond displaying wallpaper.

@TCRTechLife 2 месяца назад

Why am I just now following you I have seen your videos in the past and love your channel

@cjsebes 2 месяца назад

And that's the first time I've heard someone else use the phrase, "Slow as dirt."

@apollolux 2 месяца назад

Action Retro: needs to research touchscreen calibration procedure to maintain sanity Also Action Retro: installs and plays Sauerbraten instead Priorities. ;)

@metalwolf112002 2 месяца назад

I have two of these that I installed debian on. While the SD card slot is not bootable, you can do something of a "split install" by putting /boot on a usb stick and / itself on an SD card. I did this to free up the usb port while in operation. The usb storage is one of those tiny sandisk usb drives that barely sticks out above the unit when inserted. I zip tied it to the cable for the stylus so it'll never get lost. As far as the side buttons, they do report keycodes that are not mapped in the kernel by default. you can use a command to remap the keys and make them whatever you want. I have the top left rocker mapped to up/down since it makes scrolling pages while holding the unit a lot easier. It isnt the fastest device, but for use as a thin client, it works well enough. I use them to remote into a VM that is much more capable

@thedungeondelver 2 месяца назад

This is straight up an "Assault Cyberdeck" from the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG, man. Congrats!

@Rand0081 2 месяца назад

Windows on x86 bulky devices meant for a single purpose is the emblem of what is wrong in the IT field. And we keep justifying ourselves by saying "We did the best we could with the best tools we had".

@syrefaen 2 месяца назад

keyboard looks surprisingly ergonomic,and terminal friendly

@andresbravo2003 2 месяца назад

Tech RU-vidrs are here, and now you’re here. ARCH LINUX WORKS.

@max782_ 2 месяца назад

wah

@ahmedkj9923 2 месяца назад

barely, lol

@RarefiedError 2 месяца назад

debian sid has entered the chat

@OhhCrapGuy 2 месяца назад

There's one thing to remember about all complicated systems: The simplification system is always 4-5 times more harder to fix than than the thing it simplifies. How complicated is operating an 18 wheeler, including the gears? And how serviceable is the actual gearbox and drive train? How complicated is driving a Tesla? How serviceable is the entire electrical system, charging, motors, etc? Now, how complicated do you think using Arch is vs. Windows? And how complicated do you think fixing Arch is, compared to fixing Windows?

@ahmedkj9923 2 месяца назад

@@OhhCrapGuy so true, but i would compare it to ubuntu or fedora since alot of the hassles is already dealt with in these distros.

@JapanPop 2 месяца назад

You went full-time RU-vidr? Way to go!

@InvictvsNox 2 месяца назад

I have to say what a pleasure it was seeing other people who knew about and played Sauerbraten. I loved that game back in the day as well as making maps for it. Once Minecraft came out, it looked... derivative to me. I never understood the appeal and still don't after trying it a few times. I could just be playing Sauerbraten.

@DUDEBroHey 2 месяца назад

I liked the video except the part where the little tablet started crying out for mercy.

@fhunter1test 2 месяца назад

For display calibration - you need something like xinput-calibrator or similar tool. Few years ago we had some embedded hardware at work with badly fitting touchscreen (basically it was "I built it from parts I had"), and we had to calibrate it, because touchscreen was bigger than they screen itself.

@zetho.270 2 месяца назад

we all love the goober pc

@costelinha1867 2 месяца назад

Gotta love this beast of a machine running cube 2 at an amazing 1 (one) fps. Most gaming pc's would kill for that level of performance.

@YourLocalZombie 2 месяца назад

Now this makes me want a modern iPad-like device with a built-in physical keyboard.

@pum6454 2 месяца назад

I saw a comment on the other arch linux video you did about upgrading from every arch linux version, I'd also love to see that

@dionelr 2 месяца назад

That's a cool little box. I can probably think of many uses for that form factor.

@philtkaswahl2124 2 месяца назад

Now it's a noteputer from the Battletech universe.

@LordPrecision 2 месяца назад

To make touch work propperly - you can calibrate it. I was able to make camera work under Antix linux, but the barcode reader - nah: seems that it requires some software. It hangs on a serial port. App buttons seem to show up in dmesg unlike back buttons, so you can make use of the front buttons by assigning key codes to them. The form-factor is incredible! I wish comething like this existed with a modern powerful and efficient cpu

@Mhmd_Jljl_21000 2 месяца назад

Cool, this is a video about installing Linux on a tiny goober PC.

@dobtuwu 2 месяца назад

I never heard of the "goober" but now i want to buy one just to install arch and have it for display:]

@remixedcat 2 месяца назад

oh btw me and hubby made 2 maps for sauerbraten one is called joros retreat I think it's so neat.

@anonamus604 2 месяца назад

You should probably collab with BingusStudios or TechTangents, LGR, etc...

@anonamus604 2 месяца назад

Mostly Bingus though.

@timothyt.82 2 месяца назад

One thing I found during my installation of the official 64bit Arch was that an outdated Arch install iso would result in outdated repo keys, which could probably be fixed with a simple pacman -Sy as root on the installer, but then depending on how old your iso is, it's probably better to install a new iso anyhow. I recommend Ventoy just due to how you can plop the file into the USB and not need to write anything to the stick itself. And if you get a big boy flashdrive, you can put a whole lotta ISOs on there. You could even probably fit the Window 11 iso, if it's a couple terabytes!

@ozzelot3349 2 месяца назад

Now I know that if I ever get a small industrial goober, it will run Arch just fine. Science!

@TheDigitalOne 2 месяца назад

Never seen one of those devices, however I do like the keyboard setup with the arrow keys and number pad in the middle, in a regular size keyboard. Excellent video and that goober computing device reminds me of an Hp Mini pocket PC, winder if there is any Linux Oses for such small pocket PCs! 👌😺🥰⭐️💎

@ZeroHourProductions407 2 месяца назад

That one weird neckbeard guy: "Install Gentoo." Gentoo: "Do not underestimate me, mortal." Arch: "Heard you was talkin shit." Action Retro: "Yeah, you'll do." _Laughs in installation footage_

@iO-Sci 2 месяца назад

The old Panasonic handheld cell-phone despite that I don't remember this this was serene and I.C.E. at times. 예전 파나소닉 휴대전화는 기억이 나지 않는데도 가끔은 평온하고 ICE였습니다.

@shadowxthevampiressofficial 2 месяца назад

That computer looks so cute. It looks like it's designed for toddlers to play point & click games.

@MurphDawgProductions 2 месяца назад

I worked in a warehouse and used one of these every day. Can confirm they are slowwwww but rugged.

@DustinSneath 2 месяца назад

I have a few of these in storage that we used to process guests into a large waterpark. I actually loved *using* it but repairs and basic troubleshooting sucked. I think I have a few sets of the spare batteries from when they recalled the originals, too.

@grimmpickins2559 2 месяца назад

I'm enjoying your Linux diversions quite a lot - especially since I feel like we got there in the same weird way - through Apple. My love of PPC Macs got me into Linux, years and years ago now. Perhaps later than the early 2000s, but the obsolescence of the G4 was a big motivator... So, if I may be so bold as to say - perhaps dust off those early Intel iMacs, upgrade them, and try Linux there. You have had more and more of this devil brethren haunting your videos... Personally I have a second gen Intel White iMac that I keep looking at... I've discovered ITX thin boards designed for AIO or industrial systems... But... is it necessary? Hmmm?

@JessicaFEREM 2 месяца назад

That keyboard seems pretty thoughtfully layed out. it seems easy to use if you're used to a split keyboard like i am 😅

@fxckrio 2 месяца назад

even if youre not, it seems much less painful if youre typing with thumbs which its clearly designed for

@SockyNoob 2 месяца назад

Strongly disagree.

@michaelwright2986 2 месяца назад

Yes, that's what I thought when I saw it: "Eh? Oh, I see; yes, once you get used to it." Which you do, because this is obviously designed for use all day, every day.

@cringemaki 2 месяца назад

"Well it's the middle of the week and I don't have a real job" Man, that's the kind of life I want too!

@zekezander 2 месяца назад

That'd make a pretty good hitch hikers guide or portable Wikipedia device. Just load up the offline version of Wikipedia and the various other free knowledge bases and Zim Wiki. You have a repository of knowledge that's portable with a built in keyboard for search input. Being a tough book just makes it even better as an off grid or network down device When it's not acting as an offline Wikipedia it's a pretty ok terminal. Not the first thing I'd wanna use to ssh into a switch or something, but it'd get you by in a pinch

@EO-fv3wc 2 месяца назад

LMFAO i had low expectations for Sauerbraten tbh, but it ran. That’s way higher than my expectations.

@piecaruso97 2 месяца назад

for the signature issues just install the keychain packages while doing the pacstrap step by appending those to the command, then continue with installation and once you are inside the chroot environment do a pacman-key --init followed by pacman-key --populate, wait a while for the process to finish and you will have working signature check

@hyperturbotechnomike 2 месяца назад

The Intel Atom curse was running deep in the industrial world of computing. I'm glad this era is long gone.

@Endermanfrey 2 месяца назад

I gotta say, the videos you post really take advantage of my OLED display, funny as it is. I really love watching this genre of content. But man, why would you do this to yourself, goober keyboard and all? Also, I got a 2017 alienware 13r3. I just have to mention it. It isn't retro by any means, but it is special to me, especially since I got the OLED model.

@MasticinaAkicta 2 месяца назад

Oh installing ARCH linux, oh boy... yeah... that is going to be "FUN"

@leonidas14775 2 месяца назад

Awesome work! Now its time to fill it with Electron apps. That Atom CPU won't break a sweat lol

@Jackpkmn 2 месяца назад

this command will regenerate the keys correctly to work without having to disable the signature checking sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux32 if running from arch-chroot you are already in su mode so you don't need the sudo. I just went through this installing archlinux32 on a Dell netbook. The Dell Mini 9/Inspiron 910.

@Schattiz 2 месяца назад

Just subbed and I really like your content! Fun and educational. Thanks! I have a very old laptop with an AMD E1-1200 and was thinking to install a Linux dist, but Im not sure which one I should install. It has a SSD with windows 8 atm. and it works ok, but surfing is painfully slow. Can you please recommend a LInux dist? Thanks! EDIT: Im a noob! :)

@costelinha1867 2 месяца назад

"Weird OS Wednesday" Honestly, it's not even the OS that is weird, just the hardware you're installing it on. So maybe "Weird Computer Wednesday"?

@TeH.j0keR 2 месяца назад

Dogwater SSD. Taped down, and ready to rock. 🤘

@choppergirl 2 месяца назад

That would make a good wifi analyzer for walking around and seeing how many access points and their strength is to a graph on screen. Well, except that it probably only supports 2.4ghz wifi Usually I use a smart phone for it. Very handy tool for a wifi engineer building out wide area wifi coverage with staggered access points to minimize conflicts.

@christiangomez2496 2 месяца назад

I've seen of few the toughbook(s) online and even had one before, but the ones that interest me are the slightly lighter models. Those mainly because they're based on the Lets Note series but with US keyboards.

@JeffBreyer 2 месяца назад

You have reminded me i need to track down a tablet pc that was used on stargate Atlantis...

@DslashV 2 месяца назад

oh how cute is this PC it's Smol

@VA3WFT 2 месяца назад

That's a neat little computer.

@LuneLovehearn 2 месяца назад

Michael mjd does an Arch install. Action Retro: _fine, I'll do it myself!_ and proceeds to install Arch but 32. Is this an arms race to see who installs Arch first and make this into a series? Waiting for upgrading arch to the latest version.

@maaadkat 2 месяца назад

Easiest way to clear the partition table is to dd a few KB of zeroes over the start of the disk

@jemp6211 2 месяца назад

Yeah! Action Retro Cyberdeck😅

@nathan34914 2 месяца назад

If the date is off or if the keys are bad that could cause the issue you're having with the signature verification. One could try updating the time and then the archlinux-keyring. If that didn't work then turning off signature verification. Either way an update after install should fix it. Would love to see the output of lscpi on this device. I kind of really want one. Really cool.

@bitwize 2 месяца назад

Sweet cyberdeck, dude.

@BraxtonMeyer 2 месяца назад

"perfect hacker device"- Action Retro after he has "disabled security" on it.. lmao

@EirikrTinkerTries 2 месяца назад

What about building Phosh from the AUR, full Mesa hardware accelerated 3D with OpenGL (might need some env vars?) and then run the Phosh screen calibrator? That thing should have better 3D hardware acceleration for that game - glxinfo show the real GPU? Or is it LLVMpipe? But also all Xorg and Xorg-drivers: are they installed? -- Also can you run OpenSUSE Tumbleweed just fine on it?

@RTheren 2 месяца назад

That's a cyberdeck if I've ever seen one.

@すどにむ 2 месяца назад

Oh the mSATA adapter just worked? I thought this thing has to have a thermistor or a jumper across random pin or otherwise stops IDE commands

@brian_voll 2 месяца назад

This looks like the iPhone Clicks Keyboard case. I have one on my iPhone. Took a while getting used to the tiny keys.

@summerlaverdure 2 месяца назад

did you break it off with haiku to hook up with arch? :3 lol jk great video

@GetWiththeProgramGaming 2 месяца назад

Man if Kali Linux was possible on this, this world be a hacking/spoofing mobile computer!

@megatronskneecap 2 месяца назад

"I don't have a real job" being a husband to both pc's and humans is a job in itsself dude lmao.

@RobertBoerner 2 месяца назад

Best opening line ever…

@CFWhitman 2 месяца назад

Debian 32 might have been a bit easier on this hardware. I wonder if any touch calibration utilities would work with this. The end result is reminiscent of a Clockwork Pi uConsole, but of course that's an ARM device, and much newer (and no touch, but a tiny trackball).

@metalwolf112002 2 месяца назад

I run debian 32 bit on mine. The touch screen was still out of whack, but i made a script that fixes that.

@ericwilson9457 2 месяца назад

I feel like action retro and Michael mjd are doing this on purpose.

@MagikGimp 2 месяца назад

I had the signature problem. It's Linux; I was having authorisation problems 15 years ago. Anyway, I think it was *pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring && pacman -Syu* that fixed it. The u forces a refresh of the repositories which seems to kick the sigs into shape too.