The Ariana Grande Divorce Drama Just Got WORSE 

I think the problem was probably when Olivia was saying she wouldn’t believe it until proof came out and then hila had to say that the wife talking about it was proof

"Its not confirmed so i didnt want to include it 👉👈" GIRL its a GOSSIP segment 💀

Olivia also mentioned Ariana's morals have never been questioned which is just not true. There's no mention of the huge criticism Ariana has about her constant use of using Aave/Blaccent and changing her voice and appearance to benefit from different communities. Also the donut gate clip didn't show Ariana telling the worker "WTF is this?!" and "Disgusting" in front of the worker's face. The context of Ariana repeating "I hate America" to staff was because Ariana became vegan and loves carrots and shit so she was really calling Americans gross and fat when she put herself in a donut shop. Naya retracted a bit with all the hate she got from Ariana's huge fanbase, but in her book, Naya says Ariana had the key to Big Sean's house and let herself in and calls Ariana "smariana schmande."

I dont think calling out olivia for being biased means we're hating on her.... we're just pointing out how biased she made the whole powerpoint.

Tbh, I do feel like the past relationships were a big thing to omit. If it's a pattern of behavior, it is very relevant when what you were trying to determine was her intentions and what to believe or not believe.

Olivia reports on literally the most unnecessary details in other topics etc but for this one she said it was BORING to talk about relevant information regarding her in fact being known as a notorious cheater bf stealer etc. it is what it is but Olivia trying to say it was for comedic purposes and then all of that smirking goes to show she’s not that person everyone thinks she is. She’s a mean girl she also like theatre she knows what she’s doing and why she stans this crazy

I’m tired of people dismissing Donutgate. Personally my issues lies in how she treated the employee, calling them the “donut expert” and being overall condescending. This just shows that she doesn’t see normal hardworking people outside of her tax bracket as equals. That’s a huge problem and I don’t feel like she took accountability on that part. I like to think she grew as a person after all the trauma over the last few years but I don’t know if she truly did.

Olivia stated Ariana had done no wrong before then left out Ariana's pattern of past bad behavior during the powerpoint. It was only brought up when chat brought it up. She acknowledges she was bias enough to leave it out. Why is she getting a whole long segment of the podcast if all the relevant info isn't there? Instead, people that give her constructive criticism are given attitude and called haters. And if "none of it matters" like Dan said then why are you even covering it?

Olivia's defensiveness is rubbing me the wrong way. They're also leaving out the part where Cazzie David said they were on a break, but less than 24 hours later she tried to ask him to get back together, he said no and then she sees on Instagram that Pete and Arianna are official. The timing of that suggests it's not as "bullshit" as they're making out to be.

No, Olivia, they’re not different stories. That’s the entire reason people are mad at Arianna, because it’s a pattern that people didn’t realize until now. People who don’t even listen to Arianna are finding out about her pattern of serial cheating and that’s the story, you know you were defending her.

Some comments were nasty which was uncalled for. But as Hila said its a important to stand with the victim, what does the victim have to gain from this horrible news? The “I won’t believe it until it’s 110% confirmed” in the last episode was off putting. That’s like saying you can’t fault Haley Bieber for inserting herself in Selena’s relationship/the alleged bullying until it’s 110% proved by Selena? Everyone was QUICK to call out Haley’s bad behavior, why should Ari get a pass because she can sing?

Hasn't it been rumored for years that Ariana is a diva and rude to staff?

Olivia clearly skewed the presentation of the situation. But it’s not like we’re hating on Olivia; she’s clearly been working hard on all these presentations. The bias was just too much here.

Calling the people who criticised Olivia and her portrayal of Ariana a crazy minority of haters is just wrong. Chat and a lot of people in the comments have rightly pointed out that Olivia was missing key information in her powerpoint about Ariana's past behaviour with cheating. Her also dismissing Lily Jay's VERIFIED COMMENTS about the affair plus all the news articles at the end by saying that she's "waiting to hear a statement from Ariana or Ethan about it" before believing it really rubbed me the wrong way. If you can't report on something without bias and lack relevant information, then yes you should be criticised for it even if you acknowledge it.

This JUST popped into my head, but didn’t Jeannette McCurdy also have a lot to say about Ariana’s condescending attitude? Didn’t she write a whole skit about how fake Ariana was?? How was that not discussed??

i think the only weird thing i saw on olivia’s powerpoint was the “we dont have to think ethan is a good person but we love and admire ariana so its hard” like who’s WE lol but i get that she was making a biased powerpoint. i dont think we come here looking for super professional factual unbiased presentations

If Olivia's allowed to have hour long segments on the show, surely the audience is allowed to criticize them without all being labelled as "haters".

Surprised her race shifting wasn’t included especially because of Ariana’s wedding photo , and the controversy surrounding it

The fact that made me upset was how much she downplayed Ariana’s relationship with Colleen. She did that because she went so hard on Colleen (deserved) but since she is an Ariana Stan she completely ignores the fact that Ariana was/is VERY CLOSE to Colleen. But if she acknowledged that, that would make Ariana AND Olivia as a fan look bad. I don’t like Ariana Grande right now but that was the only problem I had with Olivia’s presentation because she did acknowledge her bias in the beginning.

Also, why would Ariana let her name be dragged through the mud if it isn't (at least partly) true. If she and Ethan didn't have an affair or aren't romantic, wouldn't she want to publicly come out and debunk it all herself? Help save her reputation? The silence is speaking the most, for me.

the selena and hailey drama got a million slides and deep history, versus ariana's had so much damning evidence left out. i think that was the issue, not to mention the bias.

“It wasn’t important enough to include 🙄” - Olivia talking about Ariana Grande “okay so here’s a tweet from 2012” -Olivia talking about Hailey Bieber Make it make sense, girl.

Okay whatever I’m kinda over Olivia giving Ariana the benefit of the doubt over everything

Olivia’s defensiveness is cringe. You did a bad research job on that PowerPoint and it doesn’t matter that you stated you were an Ariana Grande fan before the presentation to voice your bias if you were still gonna try to skew everyone else’s opinion on the situation by omitting vital information. Even at the end of the presentation saying that you don’t believe anything until it’s “confirmed” what more confirmation do you need besides Ethan’s ex-wife speaking out against both of them and Ariana’s silence amongst all of this despite her character being questioned.

Olivia doesn't take criticism in stride very well imo, I feel like she focuses on justifying the wrong rather than taking a look in the mirror and correcting the wrong and leaving the rest. Although I have noticed she left out important details of stories that make her uncomfortable before like the matty healy controversy in the Taylor break up pp. Hope she takes this as a call to be more objective and improve though cuz her shortcomings have been frustrating.

I’m sorry, but I can’t with Olivia’s attitude in this. Most of the audience gave respectful feedback and it’s not appreciated that we’re being dismissed as if our request for fairness is ridiculous. If you can’t accept feedback AND tell the full story, then you don’t need to be making PowerPoints. Period. Accept some responsibility and move forward, or end the segment - it would be better than continuing to feed your audience biased information.

lol, this addition made Olivia seem even more biased and ridiculous than the previous one, also very defensive, and all for defending a girl that is clearly in the wrong and she doesn't even know.

no accountability in this clip on Olivia’s part- even Hila was calling her out and visibly uncomfortable

Listening to Olivia constantly say “but like I love her she’s innocent so… even tho there’s a lot of proof I’m not going to believe it until it’s PROVED” pissed me off so much all y’all ari stans are like her. Now she’s like “I didn’t mean it like that I was just being comedic 🙄” no you weren’t lol, again prime example of how y’all act 😊

Yes it was important to include all ariana’s alleged past because it shows a pattern of problematic behavior. You guys did the same with Colleen. We were just expecting the same level on this story.

I don't think she should be this defensive when ppl and even her boss acknowledged she left out quite a few important details likeee😅

It’s the fact Olivia said her morals have never been questioned…cmon..really?

Not a criticism of Olivia but more of Ethan, does he not realize the pod tends to add unrelated negative facts or theories about someone he doesn’t like to try to make them look worse but doesn’t understand the critique about not adding Ariana’s previous relationships?? I don’t think it was was Olivia’s job to be unbiased or talk about anything outside of the current situation. However, the comments were valid that it came across she wanted to defend Ariana which felt weird.

Does no one remember that interview from years ago where she said when she was little, her mom was afraid of her and thought she was a sociopath? I legit never forgot that and feel like it explains a lot about how she treats other people.

It’s weird that Olivia went in more on Hailey than on Ariana. I get being a stan but what’s the point of giving PowerPoints if they’re going to be biased? The purpose is to fill everyone in on the drama but this PowerPoint was missing so much info, I just felt underwhelmed and found it weird that Olivia was trying hard to push for Ariana not being guilty when there’s literally so much evidence of this being a pattern. No one likes receiving criticism so I don’t blame her for getting defensive but since the PowerPoints are now a big part of the show I feel like she should include the whole story rather than purposely holding back info just because she likes the person in question. She can always mention how she feels while also relaying all of the facts

It’s kinda wild how invested Olivia gets. She’s shown that’s she’s like obsessed with celebrity drama, and yet she’s left out so many details in this PowerPoint. She knew what she was doing.

This didn’t help Olivia’s cause. Still seems super bias and now add salty to the mix. The amount of mental gymnastics to find even a sliver of defense… it’s too much. Tbh I think her response to being called out initially was her hope of redemption. But she half backtracked and half doubled down 😂 she’s evil but here’s some stuff to defend her lmao Super fake. Its tough admitting when someone you look up to has done horrible things. Huge stand up comedian guy and the past few years are tough. Ya just gotta own it. Idk what the attitudes about tho… like sorry we called you out 😂

Olivia if you can’t handle criticism don’t agree to make 1hr segments. You skipped what every TikTok was saying to attack Ethan looks basically.

any time the audience criticizes the show we’re labelled as “haters” by the crew esp Dan

But like why would Naya put it in her book at all if it was JUST “sitting on a couch” - like if it was significant enough to put in her book my guess is it was a pretty good reason behind it

I'm gonna paste my comment from the main episode here because I worked so mf hard on it, but it's ummm a lot😅 With peace and love, the reason why a lot of people were critical of Olivia and her take is (at least, in my opinion) because she started her presentation by saying that Ariana’s character hadn’t really been in question before. By omitting the donut licking, the race switching, and the sketchy dating history (whether it's true or just messy gossip), the presentation just fell flat and unlike the others. Yes, this is a comedy podcast and nothing should ever really be taken seriously. Yes, Olivia stated her bias before everything started. Yes, Olivia shouldn’t be treated poorly by everyone because of this one bad take. I just think it should have been addressed more properly in today’s “rebuttal." 1. Olivia states that she mentioned Ariana’s past towards the end. A. Yes, but only because Hila read a comment saying that she’s done this before. Otherwise, Olivia wouldn’t have gotten into it. 2. Olivia says that mentioning Ariana’s past dating wouldn’t have been interesting or worth it to include. B. If Olivia was already aware of Ariana’s history (as evidenced by what she said at the end of the presentation, combined with her saying that she knew about it on today’s episode), then why did Olivia start the presentation saying that Ariana’s character hadn’t been in question before? OR Olivia could have taken this opportunity to debunk the other dating rumours and this would have painted Ariana in a somewhat better light WHICH wouldn’t have made Olivia look like a delusional stan. 3. Olivia saying that she is always on the victim’s side and agrees that Ariana is in the wrong C. Then why did she say in the presentation that until everything is confirmed, she wouldn’t change her mind about how she feels about Ariana? Maybe she realized toward the end that Ariana was in the wrong because of the additional insight from Ethan and especially Hila, but it was still a weird take to include in the presentation. Moreover, by this logic, nobody should trash on or change their view of Ethan Slater UNTIL everything is confirmed. So why did they? 4. Ariana’s character has never been in question before D. So we’re just not gonna talk about the race baiting then? Arguably, it’s one of, if not the only, thing common people know about Ariana. More so than the dating history. I think by even giving a slight mention to the blackfishing and other racefishing scandals, it would have made Olivia more credible. Olivia’s attitude towards the issue in today’s episode was a little frustrating to watch because she’s making it seem like the fans can never state their opinions or offer criticism towards the crew. Of course, many people took it way too far, with some people going overboard over an informal celebrity gossip presentation. Those comments are obviously okay to ignore, but when you look at the common theme that the majority of people were commenting on (i.e., Olivia should have been more objective), then that’s when you have to take people’s opinions in consideration. And if you’re wondering why I’m very invested and concerning myself with this, it’s not so much about the seriousness of the presentation, but it’s more about Olivia’s attitude toward the comments. But I understand, it was Olivia’s birthday and I can only imagine that seeing some truly heinous shit being said about you in the comments section would make anyone feel small and I commend Olivia for even putting herself out there today because it must have been hard. However, to completely write everyone’s opinions off and not paying attention to the more level headed comments was mildly infuriating. I appreciate Olivia’s presence on the podcast - she brings a youthful, feminine, and exciting energy to the crew! But that doesn’t mean I can’t call it as I see it. I hope everyone can just have a civilized conversation about this.

This isn’t about hating Ariana. This is about Olivia being biased and giving a biased view 🤷🏽‍♀️ Olivia getting super defensive about this is weird and she comes across as insanely immature. this is the issue with stans of celebs.

Nobody is going to talk about how she shredded Sidney Sweeney with the rumors about dating her costar? Everyone knew it was to promote her movie. But with Ariana who has history and a ex-wife statement she made the boring most general power point and even said she won’t believe anything until she had “proves”. Girl bye.

Honestly what I was looking forward to most about the PP was to see if Olivia would break down Arianna’s past relationships where there was a pattern of her stealing other peoples boyfriends. Even if some of them are speculation, she still has a reputation for doing that and it would have been highly relevant for Ethan and Hila (and viewers) to see how it relates to the current situation with Ethan Slater and give the story about Arianna stealing him some credibility. She even has a song called break up with your girlfriend which Olivia could have pointed out and everyone would have a chance to interpret all these facts and determine if Arianna would do something like this or not.

Trying to debunk cheating allegations because they had a song come out together afterwards doesn’t really make sense to me. Like okay coworkers are common ways people find affairs

This is just sad, wish our feedback wouldn't be immediately labeled as hating. Olivia seems to just make more excuses with a hurt ego. When the cast is defending her it gives her more room to make excuses that just dismissed our feedback.

Lol @ Olivia literally pouting and belittling the evidence is giving bruised ego

I think gaslighting us by saying we're just a group of people that hates Ariana Grande is lightweight psycho. It's every single comment talking about how facts have been excluded. We are not just a random group of salty people. We are people who have no allegiance to Ariana- sorry about that?

There’s a difference between claiming a bias and leaving out pertinent info for the “sake of time.” Especially if you’re on one of the biggest podcasts.

My biggest problem was the way Olivia approached the whole situation, even in this video, she claims she "upped" it for comedic effect but there's NOTHING funny about this situation. A wife, mother, and child's life have been affected by the actions of these two horrible selfish people!!

It's obvious she had bias and this is not the 1st or 2nd time Ariana has done this, it's more close to 5-6 times from what I've seen and apparently almost all of the ex gfs of all the guys have spoken out & against Ariana, also the donut thing u also gotta think about, looking back, putting everything together, all looks really bad on her. Y'all gotta stop coddling these celebrities because of your parasocial relationships🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Love Olivia but its such a bad take to say constructive criticism is us being “haters”

I think people just felt like she was biased and that’s okay to say. I don’t watch all of these but lately the PowerPoints were bomb. This past one of Ariana missed the mark in the sense that her past relationships have everything to do with it lol so not including it was like … what…!?! I feel like there’s no need to shame the comments and dismiss criticism as hating.

Ew Olivia being like “donut gate would’ve added nothing to the power point” like ???

Love Olivia but this is so defensive. She’s like “I AdMiT I WaS bLaH BlAh” Rubs me the wrong way. It’s giving teenager.

I understand that they're going to be defensive of Olivia since they know and love her. But it's pretty unfair to categorize everyone as haters. I'm sure some people took it too far and left nasty messages which is unacceptable, but most were offering constructive feedback and saying that Olivia frequently leaves out information when it comes to people she likes (e.g. Colleen Ballinger, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez) which is something to work on. Olivia said she couldn't include Ariana's history because it's too long, but if people can make 60 second TikToks about it, I'm sure she could've covered it in a few slides. As someone who creates content myself, which is essentially what Olivia's doing since she creates and leads the PowerPoints, if you're going to put your content out there, you have to accept people's feedback, good and bad. If you can't handle the heat, you need to get out of the kitchen.

Olivia is mad salty. Miss girl your whole point was biased af. Lol

Olivia sound a little bratty! She keeps saying “thank you” to anyone that agrees with her. Yet, anything else she scoffed at. It’s super annoying. SMH 🤦🏼‍♀️

Her content/PowerPoint is sloppy and not engaging. The fact she’s pouting about constructive criticism like a child is also annoying.

Bro every time they get feedback they call the audience hater like BFFR😭

Dan is only on Olivia’s side because he hates the fans. Olivia please with the attitude. Criticism is going to come and it doesn’t mean everyone dislikes you now. You have to be able to take it humbly or you’ll end up bitter and actually disliked. Just my opinion though.

Why does she have so much attitude 😂

She needs to take criticism sorry she’s super weird for being so defensive

No offence, I love you, but Ariana doesn’t even care about or know you so why are you defending her like that. Just take the L.

Girl you didn’t give it enough attention when compared to the Hailey/Selena PPT. i understand some people were probably taking things too far but overall, bias or not, you left out a lot of things. you “talking about them at the end” was in passing. you being rude and having a nasty attitude isn’t the way to handle it- dan co-signing it doesn’t help either.

Olivia knows alllll the stuff but didn’t know the dalton bit? Sounds like someone purposefully turning a blind eye and focusing on the information they want to hear AKA wasting time on H3

Olivia disrespected the victim by acting like nothing was confirmed and downplaying Ariana's actions and history. Olivia's gotten so much love but the second she starts getting some criticism she can't even look in the mirror, just denies everything lol. And if "none of this matters" like Dan said then why cover it in the first place? its like yall will say anything to ignore fan feedback.

I don’t think they necessarily hate Ariana, they just hate to see a fan make excuses for her terrible actions.

I disagree. I don’t hate Ariana grande but olivia went incredibly wayyyy to hard and ignored certain things. Let’s be reallllll now

Olivia defending the cheating behavior - gross and pathetic. Olivia - Ariana won’t watch this and she doesn’t want to be your bestie. Grow up

Olivia’s attitude here is giving very HS mean girl vibes here.

I just wish what Ariana did/is currently doing was treated with more of a serious lens. It is hard for me to imagine the wife especially and her child, but what if and when Ariana gets tired of Ethan, they're no longer doing promotion for Wicked, what life does he have? His moment with Ariana will forever haunt him. There is no coming back from this for anyone in that family. It is an unpredictable, suffering thing for this to happen to them. I hope you consider the criticism. I am more ambiguous towards Ariana normally, but I still hope that her pattern of behavior here actually gets scolded rather than, "Well, it's Ariana Grande." Their family dynamic is permanently severed. I wish the best to those who didn't cause it in living an optimistic life. Editing to say, I followed Colleen Ballinger's allegations for a long time and was so floored by Olivia's coverage on that PowerPoint. I think I just wanted a more thorough documentation of Ariana's "homewrecking" pattern here, because it feels like an elephant in the room when reading stuff on here. Again I'm relatively unbiased on Ariana, I just wanted that same thorough coverage. And I agree that it just wasn't thorough enough. No hate at all here, I just know Olivia is typically more detailed in research of people she's familiar with. And I just felt like a good chunk was missing. She's why I started watching H3 stuff again, hence I know she has the ability to document and do it well.

Reading all these comments made me even more uncomfy with Olivia’s overall response to the criticism

NAYA IS SMILING BECAUSE SHE CANT LEGALLY SAY IT. READ THE DAMN BOOK. she talks about how devastated she was

Olivia... if you're going to put content out into the world you have to be prepared for criticism. I understand that some people probably took it too far, but the majority was all fair criticism.

You know Olivia, I would probably reread the comments and the feedback because clearly I don’t think you read it very well. Watching this video afterward to see you double down and be so childish about the criticism is such a turn off, especially the way Dan was acting was very disappointing. Couldn’t finish watching the video it was too cringe.

olivia was being bias and it was not for comedic affect.

This did not help Olivia AT ALL 😂

Can y’ll please just have someone else present this case instead of her? She’s clearly never gonna take accountability of how horribly biased she is in a case of literal homewrecking and even… even saying that she her morals “hadn’t been questioned before” like? Jesus Christ. She’s not going to deliver the case well. *Choose someone else.*

a miss again. not every criticism is hate and it was very deserved. doubling down isn't going to help change our minds

Olivia still trying to defend ariana 🤣

when the h3 members start catching attitudes with their fans it actually makes me so uncomfortable. like y’all can’t take an ounce of criticism from the people who love and support YOU? such weird energy coming from you guys why am i getting the side eye through the screen lol. hope you guys realize we are here & comment our opinions because we love you and want to see the best of you! peace & love

It’s honestly quite manipulative of Olivia to label legitimate criticism as “Ariana Grande haters”. This isn’t just petty drama either… this ruined a whole family I can’t imagine the pain Lilly Jay is going through right now… I don’t want to watch a podcast that is so skewed by a bias AND refuses to reflect on it. It would’ve been better to just move on but the aggression and excuses is distasteful…

The thing is - The "Donut scandal" is even worse when you watch the OTHER video TMZ have from the incident, which for some reason haven't gotten any coverage (search for "Ariana Grande I DONUT ALWAYS STICK TO MY DIET" on their website to find the video). She is SO condescending to the worker! "What's your go-to?" *looks her up and down* "Donut pro" *smirks like a bully* "I need a little help from the donut professional here..."

Gee maybe, just maybe, if a shit ton of FANS AND WATCHERS are saying the same thing in unison- they’re not haters who don’t know anything…. They are making valid, shared points. Humble yallselves you don’t know everything and do everything perfect.

If she knows every single thing about arianna like she very clearly does she intentionally left a lot out then just throwing your hands in the air and saying well i am biased like that makes it better lol

Olivia kind of reminds of a 12 year old in an adult’s body trying to be cool

Olivia should just own up to the fact that she was biased and ended it at that..... I lost my love for that girlie :((((

I mean isn’t Olivia’s dad the Executive Vice President of Interscope Records ? No wonder she has a bias.

Olivia literally said "i dont care, im still watching the movie." LIKE. Cmon now.

Ffs You guys really cannot take any kind of criticism. It was a bad presentation. That’s all. No one has to be a hater. It was just perceived by the majority of watchers as Olivia acting like a stan and reacting to this situation much differently than similar celebrity or youtuber relationship dramas in the past.

With peace and love it wasn’t that serious we were just pointing it out! 😂

Olivia is still being biased and having attitude we are gonna need a full apology now

Olivia back peddling and hiding behind Ethan’s defence lol

No one said to talk about donuts wtf are you on about 💀💀

Can Donna come back and do these gossip segments?

All we did was give advice that the powerpoint was kinda weird since it was coming from an ariana stan in denial and left out/skimmed over a lot of information, but instead we’re all haters and only care about a donut situation that one person on reddit was passionate about 💀

This video of Olivia bothers me and the last video where she left details out didn’t lol. Like her attitude of constantly being like “oh sorry this info was sooo important sooo sorry” and the sarcasm? It’s true that none of this info actually matters but. A pattern is there for a reason. This many ppl didn’t come together and conspire to make Ariana look like a serial home wrecker.

olivia: i know this stuff is relevant/compelling but is it important enough to include? olivia last video: spoiling the plot of wicked without a spoiler warning 😭😭😭

Calling any fan that gives constructive criticism "haters" is so beyond rude and immature.