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That is the platform used for the North Trains to Watertown and Massena and Montreal.. I caught many a train there and the now gone too EAST SYRACUSE station. That is until I found the Lackawanna which I liked better than the New York Central.
I can imagine an awful 1960s pitch guy arguing how the platform on the interstate "symbolically represents railways passing the torch on to the new beautiful freeways of our city's future"
The station was first sold to a car dealer then their friend Greyhound. Bus companies learned to dump heat, light, cleaning on cities. And how to avoid fuel taxes and get grants to run. And lots more! Greyhound at one time was a American owned company.
No not cursed by highways. Cursed by scumbag politicians who try to blame the highways when in reality they funnel all the money into their pockets. And flood the city with refugees. Over 15k on the Northside alone. Estimated 40k to 60k refugees for the entire city. 1960s was syracuses peak at 220k population. When it got near 100k they started dumping refugees. Cause once a city goes below 100k they are no longer get major city funding. Average median income is/was $15k. A city named after an Italian city because it reminded the man who named it of his favorite poem that talked about an ancient city of Italy. He was the pioneer of syracuse. His grandson invented the Franklin automobile. Which was considered the first air cooled production automobile. This city has been bleed dry and is a prime example of what happens when corrupt politicians take over and citizens fall asleep at the wheel. They don't call it sleepy cuse for nothin. Worlds largest pillow can be seen up on SU.
I was born in Syracuse and lived in the area until I was 11 (though I was on of those suburban people who actually lived in nearby Liverpool); I have a lot of fond memories of the Onondaga Lake Park, but they were always punctuated by my parents making it extremely clear to me that we were absolutely not to even touch the water under any circumstances.
Solvay Process water. Lackawanna RR had 5 beach stops on it on the way to Oswego. Until the chemical dumping by Process. Honeywell did try to clean it up .
It used to utterly stink there when I went running on the Shore Line Trail at Long Branch a few years ago, but I think the Honeywell treatment made it a bit better. But yeah that lake is a lost cause lol
Well you do realize the water itself is not the issue? It’s the sediment in the bottom of the lake, which if it gets disturbed will disrupt mercury sediment. The water itself won’t do anything to you, if you were in the middle of the lake where it’s deep, you could swim and be okay. The rowing teams have gotten in the water many times, it’s just a little nasty.
@@stevetree7249 I love Regular Car Reviews, but this was just overly harsh to a city that just so happens to like cars. I want him to say one nice thing about car-centric development
@@peskypigeonx It exists and continues to exist. There has to be something good about it. Something that is nothing good about it never lasts, even things that did have some good things didn't last, like the USSR. Yes it does have it's flaws and we need to move away from it, but we can't retrofit what is already built, not without tons of destruction and going against the will of the people. Ironically, car centric development did the exact same
I-81 goes around the edge of Watertown, around the edge of Cortland, around the edge of Binghamton, around the edge of Scranton, around the edge of Wilkes Barre, around the edge of Harrisburg. But it cuts through the middle of Syracuse.
To be fair, at the time of I-81's construction, Syracuse was the more bustling city in its NY route, and as of 2021 is still the most populous city on the entire route. They probably thought it was a good idea to have a commuter route in the middle and it also stemmed from two things: Syracuse University and Onondaga Hill, two major education sectors. They're now trying to think of a way to tear down that stretch between the Post-Standard Building and ESF and make it like a tunnel of sorts. There's no way they could re-route an artery like that in my opinion.
@@austinsmith5782 The current plan seems to be to re-route I-81 through the current path of 481, which I think would work but I know that a lot of the suburbs hate that because 81 is "too important" for their economy that they need traffic going straight through the city (bleugh).
I’m dyin! I live in Onondaga County and the majority of us agree wholeheartedly with everything in this video. And I’m still pissed the commuter train failed! I could walk from my house to the station and ride to work. Such a novel F’ing idea!! Grrrr id even ride the bus if it came to my freaking town. I’m shocked you didn’t mention that Onondaga Lake is considered to be one of the most polluted lakes in the country, if not the world
On Track was never finished, and Centos Ciy bus hated it. It was competition. The bus industry has alot of mob people in it. Just like the oil industry. They are the same people caught selling polluted motor fuel from rigged pumps!
Who agrees? I live up the road from the regional transportation center and I haven’t used it once in my entire life. I agree the commuter train was a good idea, but they made the hub downtown for a reason.
Honeywell also spent billions cleaning the lake. It’s absolutely disgusting but it’s not nearly as bad as it use to be. It’s probably 1000 times better.
I graduated from Syracuse, its a great school, the city has gone downhill but the surrounding areas like the finger lakes,Oneida lake, and the hills to the east that lead to Cooperstown are magnificent.
Welcome!! Lived here all 46 years of my life. Its a complicated city. It will give back what you put in. If you want to experience what old school red lining tactics can do to a city, you can find that here. If you want to see the power of what a community can do when it pulls together to improve itself, you can find that too! We are a very diverse community. So if you bring the right energy and outlook, you will have a wonderful stay!
Onondaga Lake(shown at 2:32) used to be on of the most polluted lakes in all of the US. it's currently still in a clean up, but it still has a looooong way to go
Truthfully botched doing anything meaningful in this city. It’s like you’ve never traveled outside of big cities before and experienced quaint lifestyles.
I think it's a slighty jokey video (right??) but yeah this has NYC/Westchester vibes all over it lol. I'm used to Downstaters though making fun of my hometown.
@@austinsmith5782 Yeah I understand but the condescending comments are a little much. The places that he went to are ridiculous and no one in the city really pays attention to.
Can we please get some "CSX Goddamnit" merch? I'd wear it religiously EDIT: and also "he sus cos he culoombus" please and thank you EDIT: and also "I NEED A CATHEDRAL RIGHT NOW" also please and thank you EDIT: screw it i think i speak for all of us in saying we'll pay you to quote the whole episode and put it on a tshirt
The comment about the flags in the RTC was right on. At least you didn't film that monstrously that is Destiny. The worse part about the train platform along 81, they used to have statues there, looking like people waiting for the train. They were really cool. Then they were removed...
I just spent a couple of days in Syracuse and I found it fairly pleasant for the most part. We stayed downtown, so we could walk to bars and restaurants and the people were very friendly.
You only showed downtown of course it looks like garbage go to the south side or Eastside or west side or the Northside of Syracuse you know what nevermind it's all garbage have a nice day
thats not the prison, ive lived here all my life and i GENUINELY do not know wtf this building is. chances are its downtown cause of the skybridge, but it might have been renovated.
Misleading content, to travel somewhere you are no longer in an armchair and therefore no longer the armchair urbanism. Not what I signed up for, unsubscribed.
Ok fair point to the bad checkerboard color scheme but FFS if I have to look at either another glass or monochromatic building, trying to be Apple Store hip I’ll scream.
the real treat is 150 ford ave- tomatoes to the ceiling, tender okra longer than your fingers, and watermelons sweeter than you've ever tasted. come kick it southside style with soft serve ice cream, some bottle rockets, and a motor bike ride
You talk about Pittman a lot. not sure if you have done this already, but you should drop Madeline Brewer name in one of your videos. She might be the most famous person that came from your hometown, besides yourself of course.
Nailed it but only scratched the surface :) I lived in Syracuse for 9 years, ran a warehouse that was across the tracks from Armory Square before we moved to a bigger space near Dewitt Yard. Was a very bicycle friendly place since the city was small enough you could get across all of it in less than a half hour. Traffic was low enough & there were enough alternative routes to the stroads outside downtown you could be decently safe without dedicated bike lanes. Heard it's changed since I left in 2018, but it was easy to live decently without much money. The student neighborhoods east of SU campus had plenty of permanent residents as well, good place to live. Cheap housing, tree lined streets, multiple parks & corner shops within walking distance
Glad to see you love on Upstate New York! I grew up in Rochester, so it's always nice to see people visit the region and enjoy themselves, because we've got a lot going for us that doesn't get talked about enough.
So what legitimately is "totally misundertood" about Neo-Classicism/Classicism/Greek Revival on U.S. government buildings? especially capital buildings? Are we not founded on Greco-Roman principles of governance? Should not our buildings that practice it inside, not share and reflect that foundational history with its outward and inward aesthetics to the public? Or was it just a dig out how Republican Democracy in this country is mainly on surface level? Just curious the reasoning behind this comment in your video. Love your video nonetheless!
yup pretty much all of syracuse tho i am surprised you didn't mention Destiny USA, our mall. it is pretty big and has gotten some good updates in the last decade
There are alot of things in Syracuse that I didn't include because I didn't have the time to film them (I was there visiting family). Otherwise I would have included alot of the University, the state fair grounds, the mall and other neighborhoods
The red white blue lines on the Amtrack locomotives will never stop being funny to me, almost as if New York and that small area around it never gave up being a Dutch colony? I know it's probably a reference to the red white and blue used on the US flag but the way its orientated on those locomotives is almost exactly like our flag (example at 4:30 in the video).
The Clinton Exchange building was originally the U.S. Post Office. When the water feature was built in Clinton Square, one of the city's councilmen said the fountains were going to be like the ones at The Bellagio!
But I like colourful buildings :-( The black building isn't ugly, but man, is it depressing if the weather is dull. And nothing wrong with something that can be dated by the looks, too many historic buildings were torn down because they were 'outdated', that only 20 years later were sorely missed. That's how so many buildings from the turn of the last century were bulldozed, suddenly they were 'too frilly' and 'ugly'. If it has character, I believe it has a chance to survive the next 'purge'. Except for that inner city highway, I quite liked Syracuse, to be honest.
I should clarify. I want colorful buildings, but that design (and other buildings like it) in particular will not age well. Solid colors and better architecture will prevail longer.
@@alanthefisher not entirely convinced. Unless the quality of that cladding so poor that in 20 years time, the colours have faded to 50 shades of grey (and brown), this is nothing spectacular. Using different colour bricks is quite an old technique, actually... That it might shout 'late 2010s' is not an obstacle in my view. As said, already some are mourning the orange windows on certain buildings that were renovated with standard blue tinted windows. Yes, it shouts 'seventies', but it made for some variety.
I think downtown Syracuse owes whatever charm it has to the fact that it was very prosperous, very briefly. Much elaborate architecture was put up, then there was no oncoming greater prosperity to cause it all to be torn down and replaced.
That black building at the end, Salt City Market, is brand spanking new. It just opened up Jan 2021. It's right across the street from that tall building he liked a lot, the Hotel Syracuse (now the Syracuse Marriott). One thing I wish we had more of was greenery spaces, especially along the streets. It's ironic since we have thousands of acres of parks/forests nearby (I was out in the woods yesterday, hung up a hammock, lit a campfire, and didn't see anyone all day except by the parking). There are also far and few restaurants that have outdoor seating. One thing COVID has changed is that the city started shutting down blocks of streets, like in Armory Square, to allow restaurants to take over the street for seating (due to indoor dining restrictions). BTW, I thought everything in this video was dead on.
I usually love your videos, but I struggled to understand what you're trying to say with this one. I think you were being sarcastic through most of it, but it was a bit hard to tell when you were trying to be funny and when you were being serious. Maybe it's because I'm a Brit and our humour is a little bit different to yours, and I'm not intimately familiar with your part of the world. From a UK perspective, what I see here is a real hotchpotch of terrible architecture and urban landscape mixed in with flashes of brilliance. I've definitely seen worse, but it doesn't seem very tied together, and yeah, replacing a railway with a highway.....um, well this is the USA, so I'm not surprised.
"From a UK perspective, what I see here is a real hotchpotch of terrible architecture and urban landscape mixed in with flashes of brilliance. I've definitely seen worse" So you are from London, then?
The reason we have Columbus statues is because Italian Americans faced discrimination and they used Columbus who was regarded as a great explorer, to remind Americans they are not inferior to “Anglo saxons”. Those who look down on Columbus are looking down on Italian Americans just like the KKK did.
The commentary is kind of MST3K, I hoped there would have been more thought. I agree with with the criticisms and the few positive points. The analysis could be deeper and more thought out.
If you love canals you should visit Lowell Mass. It’s not the nicest city but they’ve got a ton of preserved canals with museums in the old mills, definitely worth a visit!
