It’s almost criminal you haven’t gotten more popular on RU-vid. Your strategies are all over the internet after you release them, you’re appreciated by the craps community!
Just got back from Vegas. Used this strategy and doubled my money. When it started to lose I switch to the Arnold from the the pass and doubled it again. Awesome, if you like to gamble you can gamble for hours with this 2 strategies.
Thanks you so much for all that you do. It's a lot of work making these videos. I really do appreciate you sharing your thoughts via these time-consuming videos for us. I never really had much of a strategy but iron Cross and my gut, but watching you has really made me enjoy this game, and it has taken it to a totally different level. Thank you again, and I look forward to watching every single video you put out from start to finish 🖖
thanks waylon. another excellent way to play. i been practicing "lay it to the moon with the 6&8" also very good. I played it 3 times allready and won every time. 300 dollars a day
just won $500 in 15 minutes playing evolution online, followed your strat exactly wayland. many thx! p.s. $25 level, 2.5k bankroll. never went below $2400 to make the $500.
I will say that I love this, and it has opened my eyes to a new way to look at craps.... HEDGE! With that, I have practiced this a lot on a simulator, and I have a question.... Why do we 'need' the DC bet? I am sure I am missing something, but as I run through the exposure on each roll and try to minimize it, here is what I am thinking.... Come out Roll would consist of: - $100 on the Don't Pass - $200 Lay Bet on the 4 (love this hedge to cover you for a PSO) - $25 Hard 4 (to hedge against hitting a 4, only lose $25 on Hard 4) - $5 Yo (to hedge against hitting an 11 and losing your DP) Then, once the point is established, we decide how much we 'like it' and place odds on the DP accordingly, while also doing the continuous Come bet to cover the numbers. Let me know your thoughts...... (saucy!)
Love your strategies. Of course, none are fool proof. Heading to Vegas tmrw with a buddy for a concert. We've been practicing the "Arnold". Overall 80% win percentage. One adjustment I've made is taking half odds when the DC is on the 4 or 10. Seems like a good bet, odds in favor.
Man I’m not sure if I like the Arnold DC more than the regular! Can you show an example of this for people with small bank rolls? Maybe for a $10-$15 table?
As well as this does at a cold or choppy table this system is perfect for bubble craps. If a standard table goes cold you'll wind up standing there alone with the dice in your hand as everyone else is gone. LOL Here in Vegas I have many to choose from.
Man Waylon you have a great mind for creating strategies. You should write a book brother. I would buy it. I am currently writing a book on dice setting. I would love to dedicate a section of my book to you. Would love to have some of your strategies to go with my dice sets. Would be a deadly combination!!!
Well I actually play my strats according to my dice sets! I just put out my strategies based on random rollers! So if they win on random a good shooter should never lose with them
Hey Waylon, your 'Bama players doing great for the Texans, thanks! Like working this version of the Arnold, coming around to the double Don't with Come-out cover. Arnold so reliable on cold & choppy tables there little or no need to ladder. The one thing I've brought over from my version of this DC/Come combo is to Parlay Come bet winners. The Parlays can help cash in on repeat shooters & pump up the 7. Cheers! Robert H.
Having the double don’t is a great hedge especially if you use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better. If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25 Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number. Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay. Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
Odds on the don't is the worst bet in the casino! They don't pay even close to even money! Flat bets beat it all to pieces! There's no comparison in testing the 2! Flat bets win almost twice as much
@@waylonswaycraps Thanks Brother. I will post a comment when we get back. I want to thank you for taking the time and effort to make your videos and share your knowledge with us. I really appreciate you.
Tell the hater , eyes on your own paper ! Great strategy . First time at the Beau Rivage tonight I’m getting slammed. Gonna try this out in the morning to get back
I like the Arnold from the don't. The win on the line helps when you have 4 or 5 come bets out. Also, assuming 10x odds table you can use the odds on your don't to cover your come bets is a cool feature.
I really like this also. I am just a chicken on the coming out, and so, whenever I have a lay 4 on the coming out, I like to put up a hard 4 bet working to hedge it. This way, I am not upset and I always love hardways action to win me money, especially when I have a don't bet that loses just to win me money on that hard 4.
You can hedge a hedge if you like ! At the end of the day it loses a pile of money ! But it could save you in the short term a few times ! So it's up to you brother
@@waylonswaycraps true, and I know hardways are generally a bad bet, but I just can’t seem to stay away from it cause everytime I don’t play hardways it seems they always hit.
@@waylonswaycraps yes sir absolutely… I moved to Vegas in just before Christmas and I went to the new Durango Casino a fee weeks ago. I had a really hot roll I was shooting over 40 to 45 minutes to guess. I would say I rolled the dice at least 35 times before 7 out finally happened.
Waylon I LOVE THIS!!! I been falling you for years and this one here is a game changer. I have one question, what do you do when you lose the $200 lay (4/10) when protecting the DC?
I keep coming back to this because I like it. How would you rate the original Arnold, if you hedge the DC come out every time? Thanks for all your hard work and sharing your knowledge with us.
Happy day Happy day for yet another awesome video from The Great One, i.e., Waylon! Btw, Happy day happy day is another one of my fav "Walonisms"! haha! Question on "The Darnold" haha, since you got up in profit so quickly right out of the gate on this video, can I assume your laddering system is a part of the DP Arnold? or does the hedge Lay bet take the place of laddering?
The only tweek that I would try would be going straight into the Come bets right after the DP. I rather have 1 opportunity to lose my DP versus possibly losing a DP and a DC.
Well I already have that strategy and it does pretty good! I just don't like losing a big dp bet with all the comeout 7&11s! This one avoids that! The DC is hands down the better bet
Thanks Waylon, cool twist to the Arnold, will run this through wincraps a bit - Question: I presume you run your practice table at 10x odds or more? 3:55-4:10 when your $50 lay 4 gets knocked off and becomes the point, you lay $200 free odds on your DP to hedge your DC. 3x-4x-5x table you'd only be able to lay 150 in odds on the DP. The hedge still works, just a wash rather than a win hehe.
You are right If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25. Most casino’s would allow you to take max odds for the don’t bet then take everything else as a normal lay bet up to the max bet. Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number.
If you are re going to run it through win craps you could do it like this. Use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better. Having the double don’t is a great hedge especially if you use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better. If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25 Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number. Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay. Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay. Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number. Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay. Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
WOW....just WOW. Tested this for the last 3 hours. As long as you're willing to keep pressing the DC when you're in the red....I don't see how this loses. Thanks WC
A particularly hot table will beat this up pretty good. If you hit several DC points or when you have the big hedge bets out it is pretty hard to recover if you are progressing. A two hundred dollar lay 4 hit followed by a $200 dont odds with a $100 dont 4 is $500. It is scary to me laying big money on the 4/10 for this reason. A bad run should not happen very often but when it does, the risk is double to the payout. This is a relatively safe way to play though, which is also easy on the dealers.
@@waylonswaycraps The scenario I was describing is lv 1. After you get $25 don’t pass, you would lay $200 on the 4. If this hedge gets hit one could lay $200 odds on the 100 dont 4, to try to recover the Lay 4 that was lost. If this is hit it would total $500 loss. ($200 lay + 100 DC+ 200DC odds). This would be against probability but could happen. It would just take two 4’s in a row. I just get freaked out laying money for long periods of time on the 4/10.
@@waylonswaycrapsMoving the lay to the 10 would lessen the total loss but increase the probability of being hit. Both are actually good ways to play, just freaks me out a little.
Mr. Waylon, if you truly want to learn this game and how to beat it I can promise you a documented journey far more rewarding in doing than chasing Mr. Arnold and company. I wish you the best either way.
Appreciate it ! Don't let strategy names fool yah ! I have far better strats than the Arnold ! However it's great for a cold or choppy table! I have hundreds of strategies! In the end it's up to the player to have enough sense to play which strategy!
...I like the simplicity of this awesome tweak! " I win here🤑, win there🤮, and win here🤗" from the don't pass this time... and the pit boss just jumped off the roof🤕 ! ...Just kidding! ! !... He quit his job😯...Ohhhh Happy Day 🌴🐟🎲🎨
Waylon, you are the man! I like this much better as a DP strategy! I learned from you about not playing the Passline. Unless there’s a hot roller but how are you going to know that before you bet? After 10 rolls? 20? I like getting paid when the 7 comes out instead of getting wiped off the Table. And I always hedge the Comeout Roll so if a 7 comes out I even out instead of losing. This I have to try out! Thanks again! Why do you call it the Arnold? Just curious. It should be called the Waylon! Shouldn’t it? If you came up with it! The best strategy should be named after you.
I named it after Arnold Schwarzenegger Aguirre He was one of my favorites back in the day! Strong, never gave up & awesome comeback power! But you can name it after me if you like I could care less lol
Waylon, what would you do if you have a "hot shooter" random or dice influencer that continues to hit place numbers and kills your Don't Pass Line? Would you "change" this strategy? If so, what would you do differently?
Interesting strategy. What about this option...after the DP and DC are set, if we place the other four box numbers for $25 each ( they are covered by the DC ) and as each of these box numbers are hit, the Come bet travels and the respective place bet is paid and taken down? And then play continues as you have it shown.
Ok so I’m new at this kind of strategy and I’m a little lost on when/why to lay the 4/10 or when/why to place odds on the Don’t Pass. Also, does this ladder the same way the normal Arnold does (as in we get wacked on the DC point, so we go up a unit on the next go round)? If that happens are we also increasing the lay/odds bets? Want to make sure I’m navigating this strategy right when the goings get tough 😅
Don't make sense to me! 10 ways to roll a 6&8 vs 6 ways to roll a 7! And that's the odds on every roll of the dice! So why you waiting 8 rolls to make a bet? Idda made a fortune with his rolls
Hey Waylon!!! Love all the videos been watching you a very long time. My wife and I play tons of craps. I’m thinking of playing this strategy while she plays $110 on inside or 220. She tries for 2 hits and then regress. What strategies should we use to get comps and kind of wash at the tables? Thinking she plays $100 pass I play $100 don’t what’s your opinion
You play 50$ pass with 12$ 6&8,let her play 100$ dp with 24$ 6&8! At the end of the day the pass / dp should win a little money so should the 6&8s! Should be great for comps also
Arnold from the don't (Darnold) is great for randys so I'm gonna do it on them and I can shoot pretty well so do the place bets and regress build em back up and run it
I must have the worst luck with this game. I hit my own dc multiple times and then I switched strategies to the money tree king 6&8 where I proceeded to constantly lose on the 10&4 and at one point I didn’t roll a 6 or 8 for like 40 rolls but I tore the hell out of 9&5 and 10 &4s. Me and the dealers couldn’t believe it. As I was steady losing chip after chip every time I hit the 10 &4. After I was down I was like F it and put my last few hundred bucks on the don’t. I rolled a 10 for the point. And you guessed it right. I rolled the 10 back hard. Smfh😢 how did I turn into a hot shooter and kill myself? Love your videos tho bro you make it look so easy.
I thought the payout for a lay bet on 4 is just half the money? How come your paying yourself even money? Am i wrong? Appreciate all the strategy videos sir!
@@waylonswaycraps got hammered by come out 7’s and 11’s for awhile and went down about $900. (Didn’t hedge the DP come out. The hedge on the DC worked well however.)Crawled back and won a little. It recovers well. Won $425 this morning in less than an hour!
@@waylonswaycraps I switched to the pass line for awhile after I got down and had a guy next to me throw 6 consecutive come out 7’s. I won a lot this morning on the DP, so I am not sure right now. From what I have experienced, if there is a shooter hitting points the Passline is better. Choppy tables are better for the DP. I’ll keep experimenting. Really have to kind of get to know the shooters. I’m pretty good at comeout 7’s so I am going to experiment with switching to the DP if I hit a comeout 7 or 11. Lots of possibilities with this system. Thanks for introducing it!!
He lays to cover the DC. 7 on DC loses, but lay pays half (push). Chooses 4 since it has only 3 ways to roll (can use the 10 as well). If 4 or 10 hits you lose the lay (ouch). Odds are in your favor in the long run. Martingale on next one to make up for loss. Believe there is 3 or 4 levels of doubling each time. Always a way to lose just gotta minimize as much as you can and hope dice roll the right way.
Although with your rolling you really never went negative would you ladder up if your $100 DC got hit a couple times right off the bat? I also noticed a couple times you didn’t put the $50 on the lay 4 when you were coming out. I figured you were just on a roll and this was an oversight but it was never caught since your rolling was on fire! 😊
Of course not. It still has a negative result. You’re just closer to house edge. House edge is still present however and you can play this at any craps table in the world up to table max. And I have.
You always lay the $200 on the 4 except when the point was a 4, then you laid the $200 as odds on the DP. Would it be better to lay the $200 in that situation on the 10. That way you don’t lose the DP and the odds if the 4 hits again.
Same question from me -- what triggers a ladder if anything? You started in profit and stayed in profit throughout the video so knowing what you would do if you get into trouble would be helpful, Thanks!!