The Arrival of the Messiah | Unseen Realm 102 | Dr. Michael Heiser 

Thank you Jesus for those who can defend the faith intellectually. I love this kind of stuff!

Oh, drmsh will be sooooooo missed! Thank you oh God for putting his love of you, his love of the old and weird, together and giving him a desire that we average folk could have the opportunity to learn your word more deeply and understand more simply! Thank you for giving him the ability to take complex scholarly subjects/information and make them simplistic for the average person. Dr heiser you will be so deeply missed! Thankyou for all you’ve done, thank your family for sharing you with us. Thank you for making available so much content and information free to everyone! I believe you could have done even more...our Heavenly FATHER called you home. So we rejoice for you as you are now in the presence of our FATHER! God bless you and your loved ones.

Thank You God for Your Word and that the heavens proclaim Your glory confirming Your Sovereignty.

Such a great way to present it and give us the visuals in the heavens as well as the data corresponding with it. Can never say thank you enough to Dr. Heiser. He is sorely missed but know he's home.

I’ve read all three of the books mentioned on the gospel in stars- must say, I found it incredibly compelling and well argued, rather than an “overstatement” of what is in the heavens. But I’m okay with disagreeing on that point. Thankful for all of the study and contributions to biblical academia Mike did while on this earth.

He was extremely fearless and I think of him often and the position in God's kingdom. It helps me to think about the things people are doing in heaven for the Lord

Did love D James Kennedy for being a voice calling out the moral decay of the country long before many others had the courage to do it.

This is an amazing convergence of so many prophecies. How could the world possibly have missed it? I guess the same way the world is missing the second coming. 🤔

This I am willing to believe. Thank you

i believe that Daniel was the one who is responsible for the magi. He, Daniel, became the head of the Caldeans, who were magicians and studied the stars, so he could have easily chosen a few to look for the messiah - knowledge passed down to a selected group. Chuck Missler has a study where he talks about this.

I saw this years ago on the ‘Star of Bethlehem’ by Rick Larson.

Why only a snippit of this lesson? It is like tearing one page out of a book and giving it to a pupil.

Great information pertaining to 3 B.C, however John was given the Revelation about 95 AD, so 3 BC at that time was almost 100 years in the past, so it was historic at the time Revelation was written, so there was then meant to be a future happening that was being referred to as being a prophetic occurrence, something yet to happen.

So, I would ask; how close were the events of 9/23-24/2017, to this event as presented? I'm no Astronomer, and do not consider myself a Bible scholar and/or particularly intelligent on such matters. However, I've seen numerous presentations relative September 2017, as being very close if not the same as the 3BC event? The numerous proponents of the 2017, heavenly display, claim it hadn't happened since 3 BC, and this portends coming of the Messianic age. I find every bit of this fascinating and am anxious to hear the forthcoming lecture, as started via, this video.

"And this is the part that freaks some people out..." (06:43)

Love it, ty!

The documentary The Star of Bethlehem by Rick Larson covered this. It was pretty interesting presentation.

YHVH Himself tells us, in Genesis 1:14, that the lights in the heavens will 'be for signs and appointed times and for days and years'.

The September 11 stuff comes from The Birth of Christ Recalculated by the late Dr. Ernest L. Martin in the early 1980s, which was later reworked as The Star that Astonished the World. To the best of my knowledge, Martin was the first to propose this September 11 date. Another work is Jesus Christ Our Promised Seed by the late Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille. Wierwille was something of a controversial character, though he produced some interesting works. Portions of his book do appear to rely strongly on Martin's work.

This exact sign was in the heavens September 23, 2017 Search it out😉

Awesome 😎

All this was shown by Rick Larson 10-years-ago in his "Star of Bethleham" DVD.

I thought John wrote Revelation... Not Paul... as you stated.

I stopped believing in coincidence a long time ago.

I recommend reading the books by Seiss and Bullinger. He really downplayed what they say. Definitely worth looking at.

The text says the MAN -CHILD who was to rule all nations with a rod of Iron, was caught up unto God, and to His throne. It does not say His Father's throne either. Why doesn't John mention it's Jesus since He is the one telling him to write this stuff!! Instead we get " man child" who will rule all nations with a rod of iron.

Wow.

This is great. But it’s in direct contradiction with the courses of the priests that would and the census Quirinius undertook as census-taker under Herod. There’s a 2 year and 3 month difference. How does Mike deal with that?

Question: Daniel was the chief of the magi in his day. He was unmarried ... had no heir ... and was quite wealthy. God showed him much of the future. I think .. the magi of Jesus time ... had knowledge of Daniel's revelation ... and thus knew what to look for, and around what time. I also believe the gifts they brought was the inheritance of Daniel ... who well knew the meaning of those gifts.

Paul?!? The book of revelation was witnessed and written by John..

Alabado sea el nombre de Jesús de Nazareth

Where's the rest of this??????❤❤❤

Will the stars tell more?

Where is the rest please

Isaiah 47:13-15 NIV. "All the counsel you have received has only worn you out. Let your astrologers come forward, those stargazers who make predictions month by month, let them save you from what is coming upon you. Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up. They cannot even save themselves from the flame… Each of them goes on in his error; there is not one that can save you."

Question: Would Persian astronomers be using Greek defined constellations?

I’m interested in understanding the point of view. Can’t be from Earth since Sun light negates the night sky. Have not heard a good response to this. How would anyone know where the Sun is in a constellation ?

What program was Dr. Heiser using here?

I heard that Jesus wasn’t born on the 25th of December so was his birth date September the 11th?

So did the 3 Kings start out for Bethlehem some months before this 80 minute alignment by calculating it ahead of time?

Herod the greats death is recorded by historian F. Josephus as in 4 B.C. , so how could Jesus have been born is 3 B.C.?

Did this happen in other years as well?

For me the sign of Leo means that my birthday is here again!!

So what exactly are you tryptophan say??now we gotta wait til September again? Yeshua was almost two years old when the wise men showed up..

Is there a place I can get a copy of that photo?

The 3 gifts is the basis of "only" 3 kings. There were more Magi besides those "3". Also, in those days, you didn't travel around by yourselves.....3 camels....3 kings...as the Christmas cards portray them; probably a small "army" protected them in their journey. No wonder Herod's "cage" got rattled when told the King of Jews was to be born. The Magi come from the time of the Book of Daniel.......Daniel was probably shown more stuff about the coming of the Messiah besides what is written in His Word......the Magi KNEW the TIME and the SEASONS. Be blessed in Him. Post Tenebras Lux

Yes, where is the rest of this lesson?

Are there other people meeting Christ in the air, who I have to know who

Mike got a lot of things right but got some things wrong like his comments on The Witness of the Stars and The Gospel in the Stars. Those 2 books are mostly correct.

Can't you both be right. I know Bollinger's works we're like a hundred years ago. But my, what he accomplished back then and the Companion Bible was reviewed and approved by rabbinic Council

We were taught that Herod died in 4 BC, and when you figure in Caesar Augustus and Cyrenius, Luke 3, that the Lord had to be born 4-7 BC.

It all sounds dangerously close to divination, which we know it is written as strictly forbidden. What good is that information?

Erm, John wrote Revelation, not Paul.

It wouldn't surprise me if Christ's birthday is Sept 11. We don't know the date, but Satan is sure to remember. It would be like him to try and make a terrible date of Christ's birthday. Plenty of battles, coups, hurricanes, etc. And ties to the occult?

When it comes to prophecy most verses boil down to interpretation, in this case Revelation 12 "could be' refiring to the third of the stars as fallen angels. I'm in no way dogmatic about this interpretation but it is an option as opposed to having to do with astronomy.

Wow that is really cool!

not sure if I'm comfortable with this "star-gazing"....the prophets of the OT warned Israel not to listen to them

Why can't I digest this ?? Are you saying that astronomy predicted the birth of Jesus??

Chapter 12 pertains to future events in relation to when John receives this prophecy. Revelation 1:19 New King James Version 19 [a]Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.

3 bc or 4 bc?

🤔😯

This is Heiser's distorted and erroneous theology. The "gods" in Psalm 82 are not divine beings. How do we know? Because the immediate context tells us. Nowhere in the entire Bible do "gods" judge humans unjustly, so that God now has to judge them. Human judges are described in Psalm 82 based on the immediate context of that Psalm. We know that humans were called "elohim" meaning judges because of passages like Exodus 21:6 and Exodus 22:8-9. Right now I am interviewing the author of the book "The Unbiblical Realm: Refuting the Divine Council of Michael Heiser’s Deuteronomy 32 Worldview." We both came to similar conclusions without knowing each other before, and he cites others who also take issue with Heiser's theology. This is not rocket science here. Heiser simply misread several passages. Case in point. I have heard him say that Deut. 32:8 where he takes as original the reading "Sons of God" instead of "sons of Israel," is related to Deut. 4:19. He then argues that Deut. 4:19 is speaking of "heavenly beings." But anyone reading the immediate context of Deut. 4 starting from verse 15 down to 19 will see the clear reference to God warning against IDOL worship, not worship of any alleged "divine beings." No, Moses is talking in that context about the problems with idol worship of different kinds, and when we get down to verse 19, the flow of thought continues as God warns against a different kind of idol worship, the worship of heavenly bodies, the "sun, moon and stars, all the host of heaven." So one of his key passages he got grossly wrong. The fact that Heiser missed this simple truth from the immediate context speaks volumes, and it also speaks to how people can be blinded by a theology that they can't see the obvious. Deut. 4:19 is not speaking about any kind of real "gods" or "divine beings." God there is warning against idolatry, man made idols (carved images per vs. 16), and idols people could make of heavenly bodies.

Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily 2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation *************************Old Testament******************************* Isa 33:2 O LORD, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their arm every morning, our salvation also in the time of trouble. 1Sa 51:5 My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust. 1Sa 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God. 1Sa 59:16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 1Sa 63:5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. Isa 53:1 ¶ Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Immanuel = "God with us" or "with us is God" symbolic and prophetic name of the Messiah, the Christ, prophesying that He would be born of a virgin and would be 'God with us'

Christianity? or Astrology?

"Will the Jewish people love a 45 year old, catholic, polish women as their Jewish Messiah" That's how I already revealed myself last year. My name is MAGDALENA this time. If that's not enough proof that JESUS was a Messiah then there is another one. Everything God showed me and told me happened outside. GOD IS NOT INSIDE THE CHURCHES. TIME FOR CHANGE IS NOW🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

The virgin that was about to give birth? You want to run that one again.?It does not say virgin.

O.O

Heiser took the idea from the book "Magi _ The Quest for a Secret Tradition" By Adrian G. Gilbert, first published 1996 by Bloommsbury.

An astrologers view is half an answer.

Matthew 2:1-12 claims that a star led a group of wise men to the infant Jesus. Such a star is not mentioned in any of the other three gospels. Nor is it mentioned in any of the secular history or science of the time, such as Seneca’s Natural Questions (circa 65 CE) or Pliny the Elder’s Natural History (circa 80 CE). It is, moreover, implausible on its face: only a star emitting a single precision beam could lead people to an exact location on earth. If such a celestial marvel occurred, wouldn’t the entire countryside have followed the beam to discover whatever it was pointing to? How then could Jesus have grown up in obscurity? And wouldn’t it have been easier for Herod’s soldiers to follow that same star rather than kill every boy under the age of two? (Incidentally the Killing of the Innocents has no contemporaneous corroboration).

Where in the Bible defines these figurines? Aren't they man made? You can't use man made stuffs to interpret the Bible, not exegesis.

Andromeda and cassiopia are also women Regulus is only one of a good number of 1st magnitude stars . An astronomical object will not lead people to a geographic spot on Earth because they appear at infinity.A 3rd of the stars is also better translated as angels, in that case fallen angels The star-of-Bethlehem was an angel appearing with God's glory.

Heiser is Totally wrong and in error on Psalm 82, Heiser has mislead so many on his teaching as well as his book the unseen realm. 😊😃🙂 VERY CLEAR that Jesus tells us who the gods/elohim are in both Psalm 82 and John 10 are human. Jesus has OWNERSIP to the answer. Not Heiser. Asaph the Prophet writes ESV Psalm 82: 1 "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:>>>>>>word of the Lord (God/Father) comes to prophet Asaph Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.”>>>>>>>>God (Father speaking thru prophet Asaph) WHY word of the Lord came to prophets like Asaph Psalm 82. John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),">>>>>Jesus who is God (Son) Fulfills the words that God (Father) had spoken thru Asaph to Humans. Note in Psalm 82: 1, ESV uses "divine council" other translations use "congregation of the mighty" or "great assembly". Check out the order Jesus uses “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," Law "gods" and Prophets (word of the Lord came to Prophets of God) What this is saying at who is in the Middle of the Law and the Prophets, that would be the "gods". The "gods" that Jesus is referencing are from Psalm 82. The "gods" are human and would be the Jews, becasue the Jews were given the Law and had the true Prophets of God. With that said the "gods" are human Jesus has Ownership to the answer of the "gods" of Psalm 82 found in John 10. Heiser is CHEATING Jesus out of the answer and throwing Jesus under the bus. Heiser has lead so many astray with his explanation of Psalm 82. Scripture clearly tells us that the Jews were given the Law and had the Prophets, NOT a bunch of super angels that Heiser promotes. Super angels were NEVER given the Law or had the Prophets of God. Key points (7) 1.What Heiser NEVER explains the "Job Description" of prophets in the Old Testament. Most people are even unaware of who wrote Psalm 82. Asaph the prophet wrote Psalm 82 as well as other Psalms 50, 73-81 and 83. Prophets were the "VOICE" of God that is why it is IMPORTANT that Jesus Repeats and Fulfills these words...... Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” ........John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," Prophets would handle and carry the word of the Lord in the Old Testament, they were the representative of the words God whated to say>>>> the "Voice" of God. Jesus (Son) is fulfill in the New Testament what God (Father) had spoken thru the prophet. Even Moses is in the likeness of God to Pharoh, Exodus 7:1 "And the LORD said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet." 2. Since Jesus is repeating what the Father had spoken and said thru the prophtet like Asaph. Since Jesus (Son) is addressing "HUMANS" in John 10, the same is that the God (Father) speaking thru the prophet Asaph in Psalm 82 (Asaph the "Voice" of God) would be addressing HUMANS in Psalm 82. Heiser likes to leave out the "I said" declaration of Jesus (Son) in John 10 and the the "I said" by God (Father) speaking thru the Prophet Asaph of Psalm 82. Jesus is God, God is ONE God made up of 3 persons Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The "I said" delararation is no different than an "I am" declaration. 3. The Godhead/Trinity This is how the 3 persons within the Godhead opearate and function. Only the Holy Spirit (God) can convince a person to understand why the Son (God) has to fulfill the words that the Father (God) that were spoken by the prophet like Asaph and other prophets as well in the Old Testament. It is Said that Jesus has fulfilled over 350 prophecies of in the New Testament from the prophets from the Old Testament. Even Isaiah the prophet who wrote Isaiah 53 was the "Voice" of God in the Old Testament, so Jesus can Fulfill what was said in Isaiah 53.....Isaiah 53 is about the Crucifixion of Christ. Jesus has Ownership to both prophets Isaiah and Asaph of what they wrote and how God (Father) spoke thru them. Prophets were given the word of the Lord 4. Jesus is the word/Word become flesh John 1: 14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." Jesus fulfills the Law and the Prophets, Jesus says in Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." No super angels of a divine council were ever given the Law and the Prophets, it would be the Nation of Israel 5. To address to "die like men" In Psalm 82: 7 is Referring to those bad elders, rulers, leaders or judges within the nation of Israel that have High Authority, they favor the wicked and judge unjustly, they do not follow through with their responsibilities, duties, and do not represent God or the law, these High Officials are just men, they have High Rank so they will die like men. They are human not divine beings. God has always set up rulers within the nation of Israel and even throughout the world. In Numbers 11: 16 “So the LORD said to Moses: “Gather to Me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you know to be the elders of the people and officers over them; bring them to the tabernacle of meeting, that they may stand there with you.” 1 Samuel 8 : 1-4 When Samuel became old, he made his sons judges over Israel. 2 The name of his firstborn son was Joel, and the name of his second, Abijah; they were judges in Beersheba. 3 Yet his sons did not walk in his ways but turned aside after gain. They took bribes and perverted justice. 4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. God has ALWAYS set up Governements in the world not just with in the Nation of Israel, Romans 13: 1 "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." 6. Clearly the "gods/elohim" of Psalm 82 are human judges, some even apply kings. The Old Testament has a book called Judges as well as two other books 1 Kings & 2 Kings. No book in scripture is applied to something nonhuman or angelic. Psalm 82:6 "“I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’.... The word "sons" used in this passage is an "Adoptive" Term for Israel, Israel was the chosen people of God. 7. Psalm 89 has NOTHING to do with Psalm 82. Hieser likes to mix those chapters together. Psalm 89 is in the heavenly and spirtual realm when Psalm 82 is on the earth and the physical world. The same logic heavenly and spiriitual would apply to 2 Chronicles 18:21 and 1 Kings 22:19-23 where it mentions a scene in heaven and the lying spirit. The heavenly hosts in scripture refers to the sun, moon and stars. In Summary The Humans are Jewish rulers in both Psalm 82 and John 10. Psalm 82 Jewish rulers like judges or even kings. John 10 Jewish rulers like pharissees. Psalm 82 would be human, NOT a bunch of super angels, like Heiser promotes. Heiser throws Jesus under the bus. Heiser CANNOT answer the question of the gods/elohim of Psalm 82 becasue Jesus has already answered the question of the gods/elohim in John 10. Jesus has Ownership to the answer, since Jesus is addressing humans in John 10 the same would be humans are being addressed in Psalm 82, not a bunch of super angels of a divine council. Heiser has manipulated so many minds and has triggered the mind to think this "divine council" is non human. Jesus clearly gives us the answer the divine council is human. The phrase and title given "you are gods" is a legalistic title of Authority because the Jews were given the Law and as well as judge with the law. The Jews were given the Law and 10 commandments to govern them and council them, so it is imposible for this to be nonhuman spirit beings or angels. The Jews also had the True Prophets of God. God also established covenants with Humans, not nonhuman spirit beings or angels.

Revelation Chapter 12 is NOT about the coming of the king of the Jews (Judah). . Revelation 12 is about the birth of the king of the Nations (Ephraim). . It is about a man who will be THE SAME as Jesus Christ. A second messiah. . Understand what Jesus Christ explicitly said while quoting Psalm 2 about someone other than himself: . Revelation 2:26-27 And to him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS, 27 and he shall shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels ** THE SAME ** as I have received from my Father . Now try and make the Trinity mathematics work! . The Revelation 12 sign was seen on September 23rd, 2017. . Copy and paste this date into the RU-vid search bar above to confirm. . . Read Psalm 2. . There are two Messiahs (Christs) .

What a load of nonsense.

CRISTO ES MI SEÑOR ❤️❤️❤️

Absolutely mindbendingly accurate

Jesus Christ of Nazareth Emanuel,,,He’s the only way 🕊🙏🤠

AMAZING!

There were seven conjunctions of Jupiter (Regulus) in 3 BC. All were centered around the birth of Christ. The announcement of his coming would be on September 11, but the birth itself would be September 26, at tabernacles.

3 B.C. September 11, God came in flesh to be born of the Virgin Mary, live a Perfect Life healing the sick & raising the dead suffered under Pontius Pilot, was crucified laying His body down on the cross as the Passover Lamb & Picking it up 3 days later & now sits at the right hand of the Father to come again & Reign as King & Lord at the 7thTrump

Prophet Daniel tells us the exact time when Christ would be baptized (anointed), die on the cross (midst of the week), and the gospel would go to all the world (end of the week). Sadly this prophecy which points to Christ is now applied to Antichrist. :(

How is Dr. Heiser doing?

Religion, fast talking for poor slow thinkers