The ART of DIY Car Painting in Your Garage 

Thank you

That's great. Same here in AZ. Especially now

Thank you!

Thank you, I appreciate it!

I may have used a sealer if I had small primed areas throughout the whole vehicle and more actual dent repairs/bodywork than I had. I don't seal often. Years ago when we were using primer with a lacquer thinner reduction, sealer served as a good barrier between the repaired areas and the basecoat. With today's 2k primers I feel that barrier is not really necessary in most cases. When using sealer, you need to lay it down perfectly before the color or you will be doing additional prep before that color is sprayed. So, 1 more potential challenge, especially if you are trying out a new gun like I was. If I was in a professional spray booth and this was a show car, I may have sealed it but it wasn't necessary with this project.

@@AZOverland2017 Thank you for your very informative reply. I am getting close to doing the real paint job after many iterations of primer and filler and sanding. I am using the PPG VP2050 combination sandable epoxy and high build primer. For the final paint using PPG sealer and DBC2000 base and a high build clear. I would be most grateful if you could please elaborate on what the function of the portable exhaust fans is in your setup? I am planning on not having perfect laydown on any coat and sanding to 600 in between everything and plenty of clear for final paint correction, but have heard different stories on whether ventilating the booth (in my case a garage) will lead to solvent popping. Thank you so much!

I think it is a very good gun. Yes, you can do a full paint job with it but you have to pay attention to overlap and it will certainly be a slower process because fan pattern is smaller. I would definitely like more time with this gun to dial it in. Another gun to take into consideration is the AeroPro R500 amzn.to/3z0tyrA

@@AZOverland2017 Thanks, I dont do work for anyone expect my own vehicles, I am learning how to lay base coat /blend which can be a bit frustrating unless doing the whole vehicle which makes base coating much easier, my cars are all metallic too.. I can clear coat pretty well but my lighting sucks a bit so going to put in a few more lights. Cut and buff , cut and buff. I dont mind a small amount of orange peel actually, but the dry areas suck hence the need for better lighting.

I shot my wheels and emblems with Hyperdip a few years ago. Loved it for that but wanted a light restoration factory finish for this project

@@anndrake492 Thank you

Thank you! Probably Tuesday

Thank you!

soon, soon...

Glad it helped!

That's great. My Optima gun I bought I think in 1989 or 1990. Cost me $400 back then. It was well worth it. Everyone in the shop was still using siphon guns but the guy who taught me had this gravity feed and everyone though he was crazy. Turns out, he was ahead of his time.

Anytime

I would make sure you are clear for a minimum of 20-30 ft. Wind will also play into this

I did not. The compressor kept up well. Not ideal, but very doable. I kept an eye and feel on pressure at the gun and it didn't drop much and was spraying very well. I took my time to let the compressor recover but not much more than I normally would. At times, I bumped the regulator up at the gun as well

There's only 1 out here by me in Phoenix that I'm aware of. I'm building a roll-up booth in my garage now...

Welcome mate! Sounds like you have everything you need. Just make sure you blow the garage out and wet the floor before painting. Tack all surfaces before 1st coat and between all basecoats. Unless you have something crazy that lands in the paint, you will be able to sand and polish it out nicely. Good luk!

There are many options available. I would go down to a local auto body supply store and see what line they carry and what information they can provide. They usually are available at different tiers so it depends on your budget. I use PPG paints for the most part. Single stage is a good choice for a garage job

Thank you 🙏

@@jonathansmiddy7224 Thank you

I believe I used just over 1 quart of base and approximately 2/3rds of the gallon of clear.

All very good suggestions! I just built a portable paint booth in the garage to take the place of this one. Check it out ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CU2GgEeHFvI.html

@@AZOverland2017 much much better 👍

I did not have a problem. Yes, a slight pressure loss at the gun but if you pay attention to the gun regulator you can adjust there if need be. There was no problem with waiting for the compressor to fill with air. It kept up just fine.

It was a basecoat/ clear coat. What made you think it was a single stage?

Thank you!

Yes, I agree, all precautions should be taken, thank you. Back in the late 80's early 90's when I was young and did this professionally in Body Shops, the older guys who taught me would be smoking cigarettes while painting or had propane open flame heaters going in the winter. I don't know how we survived 🤷‍♂️

They were removed. Refer to 14:54 and 18:04 in the video

I haven't used the Porophis gun but am interested in trying it. I happen to love Garage Noise's channel. But keep in mind that when a channel recommends a product many times they earn a commission on that product. I am by no means saying that is the case with this, but I like to test these products out fully before I recommend something.

@@nazimzafri If you go to 8:11 in the video I show the compressor and it has all the specs on it

@@AZOverland2017 thanks!

Thanks! Just Sub'd to your channel

Thank you. Gray is about 600. Not sure about the green

Wear nitrile gloves when you're wiping down the vehicle, otherwise you're just transferring the oils in your skin onto the cloth and when you flip the cloth over, it will have them get smeared onto the panel you're trying to clean... I too live in AZ (in San Tan Valley)

@@randylakeman8586 thanks. good advice

@@randylakeman8586 Yes, I should have been. Thank you!

@@clarencemack4382 There are a lot of variables to consider. What kind of gun? Does your compressor have a quick recovery? What pressure do you spray at? With my particular setup, I was able to spray the entire car. The compressor kept up. Your going to need to get used to what you have and how to adjust pressures as you need to. If the compressor is good, then it's likely it will work

Compressor regulator set to right around 150. Gun was about 22 for basecoat with fan wide open. If I used this for clear I would bump that pressure up probably closer to 26 and fan wide open. Fluid volume was about 3 out from close but I would probably open that a bit more also

@@AZOverland2017 thank you!! I'm assuming you used a 1.3 tip?

@@itsjusti4262 Yes

@@dreamingcode Yes. watch the video before this

If you are referring to the front, they are unbolted and pulled off the body panel, so no issue there. On the rears, if I happen to hit it with the 600, it wouldn't make a difference because they are being refinished (sanded) anyway. That being said, I have very good control over my tools either way and very confident what I' able to do. If I had any concerns, they would have been completely removed or masked as I did before paint.

Optima 800 but I don't think they make these guns anymore.

Sometimes you need to do what you need to do. It turned out great and it inspired me to build a better booth as I did in my last video

Yes, that is certainly a concern. We have a paint booth rental not too far from me that is actually reasonably priced. Try to look for one if you are concerned about painting at home. I would buy some filtered exhaust fans if this was done often.

I want to paint my truck as well, but was looking at an inflatable booth. Any thoughts?

@@SuperchiefApache I haven't used one but from the videos I've watched they seem very promising as long as you have the room to put it and enough space around the vehicle to work

@@AZOverland2017Just curious. What do rental booths cost roughly and for how long?

@@Gsxrtrix You are lucky if you can find one. They are not readily available. The guy out here rents for I believe $25/hr

That's awesome! Check out the new booth I put in on a video I did recently. The one I used in the video worked great for a single use. If you have any questions when doing the paint or need me to pop over to give some pointers, shoot me an email with your info. As long as you're not too far, I can check it out for you brothersadventuresllc@gmail.com

@@AZOverland2017 I saw that setup video, looks perfect for garage DIY! And I really appreciate that, when the time comes I'll let you know if I have any questions! I'm around the NW corner of the 101. My GF's tacoma needs a hood respray, so that'd be a good way to get comfortable spraying without worrying about doing an entire car. A lot easier to respray a hood if anything goes wrong. Who would you go to for OEM Toyota paint colors?

@@jooooohn401 Go to ADCO Paint Supply at 6620 W Orangewood.

If I had a neighbor complain I would rethink it. I would either find a booth to rent or invest in some filtered exhaust fans. Pricey, but worth it. Good luck!

@@AZOverland2017 yes, I'm looking for a solution to this matter, right now I'm doing the body work and that is going to take a while because I don't work on the car daily. Most likely I will take it to a friend's paint shop to paint it there, thank you for the advice. 👍

My neighbor has illegal rental tenants in his garage. He knows better than to ask me anything! I do whatever I want in my house!

I cannot even begin to imagine why I would care what my neighbors said, did, or even thought about what I was doing on my own property!! 🤯 As long g as I'm not spraying their car or their house, they wouldn't have any right to say a word! (And if I WAS spraying their car or house, they could THEN either file a lawsuit against me or just ask me to pay for repairs

@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 I guess for me it's just a matter of respect. I like them, they live close by, we help each other with things. So, if it was bothering them or their pets, I would want to know. Just the way I was raised

Awesome. I've heard good things about the Black Widow. Good luck with the project!

Yes, if I have a bare concrete floor, I definitely wet it down. My floors are epoxy under the paper we put down. Not ideal for water :)

​@@AZOverland2017 Awesome job and video! I used to work at a body shop that was built out of the boss's home garage. We cleaned, mopped, left damp and he had someone build exhaust fans that would clamp up to the standard garage doors. We also would color sand and buff after every paint job. Shout out from the east valley!

@@lennym480 Love it! West Valley here!

@@AZOverland2017 Gotta give support to the locals! New subscriber.

I can't imagine what would fall into the paint. Wow

Use lacquer... Duplicolor Paint Shop brand. Don't know if it is available in every state, though.

@@cocarr1 I didn’t know lacquer was even a thing anymore? I remember way back in the day some of us street motor head dudes would see a paint job and someone would pipe up and say, “Hey, that’s so and so and his ride has 8 coats of red” or something along those lines.

@@cocarr1 Lacquer is garbage, much better off with a 2K product.

I agree with the silicone. When I worked in a shop, we kept all spray lubricants in a completely different level. Brawls would almost take place if someone sprayed something in the air while we were getting ready to paint. I've never had an issue with air tool oil in my tools though. I was taught by the old timers in the shop to lubricate the tools and I have done so ever since.

​@@AZOverland2017the oil sprays out of the air tools, keep doing what your doing if you haven't had any problems, paint looked great

@@genek1341 Optima 800 from Germany. I bought it in like 1990 for $400. 1.4 tip

You can remove the masking when the paint is dry to the touch. I touch the tapes closest to a painted panel to check. If the paint is tacky on the tape, I wait. Its usually a few hours, but you can wait till the next day. In certain situations, you might want to pull certain areas a little earlier

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I did not have an issue with this compressor keeping up with the HVLP. You just need to keep an eye on the pressure at the gun with a regulator and you can adjust accordingly if it drops. I was right around 38 psi at the gun with the HVLP and about 22 with the LVLP. The compressor did kick on but never had an issue keeping air in the tank. I will however continue to look for a higher quality LVLP as I would like to be able to achieve the same results as the HVLP with the ability to have less overspray and use less material.

Well, I was able to complete this project with it. It wasn't ideal, but it worked. I had to stop every few minutes and let the compressor catch up but was able to keep busy with hand sanding in other area while that happened

@@tokenfatfriend68 In order for someone to paint the truck with the care that I took painting it it would cost quite a bit of money. The hair I was talking about are tiny little hairs that no one would ever see except for me anyway

Thank you. I honestly didn't expect to be using the 2 nd gun or I would have had the disposable system set up for that one also.

These are not. Not ideal but I did just get one that is for the next project

Thanks for watching

It's not necessary if you have the right cartridges but it would be nice to have.

I learned the hard way about that. However, if you have a solid weatherstrip seal and roll a damp beach towel at the foot of the door, you can certainly minimize that effect. Not perfectly, but I've made due with this highly technical method 😀

@@AZOverland2017 IT still will go up through the sheet rock , into the attic, going all through the house

Better than a skunk

@@pauly5678 Not relly ,as the Catalyst additive in the clear coat has Isocyanates and will kill you or give you severe respiratory problems, a skunk only smells bad!

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I had 3 of my vehicles in my driveway less than 20 ft from that garage door without a problem. The LVLP gun produces very little overspray. The HVLP was a bit more but still not enough to travel that far

Actually an hvlp gun has no over spray at all!

Thank you, she's coming along nicely!

The 3M half mask and 3M vapor cartridges. See below Mask: amzn.to/4c7a7LQ Carts: amzn.to/3VA0BdN

I'll put the link below for the LVLP gun I used that should have it's specs. The HVLP gun I used I have no idea. I purchased it in probably 1989 or 1990. The compressor I used worked very well with both guns. Of course, a larger compressor would be better. amzn.to/4bQUSXF

I strongly considered that, believe me

@@AZOverland2017 it turned out really good man!

I got the white at a local auto body supply store. It is made by PPG called Omni. It is the original white from the factory for the 1991 4Runner

Sure. I had2 quarts made and I used probably just over 1 quart. Don't forget I was using a LVLP gun for basecoat which uses less material. If you are not using an LVLP you will use more, but I would say the 2 quarts is still plenty. If you are in complete primer (not just spots like I had) you will be 3 quarts - 1 gallon.

@@zakmey6944 I appreciate it

Thank you! Not sure what the future plans are for this guy just yet

Thanks for watching and good luck with the '92. It's great you are teaching the kids to drive a manual. It's a lost art

​@@AZOverland2017 Yea, I take driving stick for granted, but remember being nervous taking my drivers test on it. Just finished with the 4runner. Turns out I had an older used 7" polisher, so just needed to pick up a microfiber bonnet cover for it yesterday at HF for $3. I used Ultimate Compound, Cleaning Wax, and some other wax polish in different places, not really finding one that was much better than the others. The only thing I would really suggest is draping 100% of the vehicle or other stuff that you aren't painting (I see a line on my hood where I had it covered and where I didn't, from the clear coat), fully prepping everywhere that you are going to paint/clearcoat (I should have sanded the edges a little more, and should have scuffed or removed wax further), and blend or soft filter at the edges of your area (both paint and clear). I probably hit 90-95%, which is fine on this 4runner and where the paint/clear is. But it wouldn't have taken that much more to hit 99%. Probably just a little more planning, and sanding up to a higher level beforehand. And HF only has up to 2000 grit sandpaper, whereas going to 2500 or 3000 would have helped even more when smoothing out the clear. I'll be getting some of that for my collection (amazon has assorted packs for cheap), and buying a nicer polisher. This was my first time ever using one, and it did the job decently, but a random orbital would be helpful and I could see using it once a year on each car with some compound or polish, and hand waxing the other times. If I could add a picture I would. She came out nice! I look forward to seeing your video on it. And while I don't have fancy spray guns, I might use one next time. It's always fun to use one of the spray guns, though I've yet to do anytime precision with them. This was a great experience, and now I know the possibilities and work involved with some of those vehicles out there with bad clear coats or paint.

I've painted hundreds of vehicles. Never had an issue. It will flake if it's not sanded correctly, right up to the tapes line, which many people do not do. Every paint job is different and their are many variable to take into consideration. Budget is one, You can't treat every vehicle like a show car. If I were to have removed all trim, I would be replacing a lot of it because of the age of the vehicle. That is not in the budget. Sometimes you strip a car to paint it and sometimes you mask parts up. It is all in the way you prep it and the way you mask. If it is peeling, then it wasn't sanded correctly.

@@AZOverland2017 So you've painted 100's of vehicles incorrectly, got it. If you did this to my car after I paid you I'd slap the 💩 out of you

@@ulbehempenius5348 Thank you!

@@N0Fumar I don't go by time because that depends on weather, humidity, etc. I will touch the tape that is right near a panel I painted. If it is Dry to the touch (not stringy when I pull my finger away) it's ready for clear. I think the day I painted it, it was probably 30 minutes between color and clear

@@AZOverland2017 okay so you don't, say, paint the car and come back 3 days later to do clear. Gotta do it all in one go?

@@N0Fumar With some of the products I've used 24 hr max between base and clear. I would read the manufacturer specs on the product you are using. If the base remains uncontaminated, and you wait say, a week, you may want to give a fine grit scuff before cleaning

I've used it 2 times since and still a small pattern. I need to measure it, but it is definitely smaller than 11 inches. Wide open fluid and wide open fan. Not sure what's going on with my gun

@@AZOverland2017 mm 🤷‍♂️ don't get me to lying I haven't a clue unless there's a defect or something

Yes, I made a kill room for the most part 😀

You are right. I actually did that (and more) right after I did this video. Wish I had done it sooner. Check out my new Paint Booth ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CU2GgEeHFvI.htmlsi=MqeVtKLdGy1T-4_V

Starting at 8:11 in the video I show the compressor and all the specs

@@jeffkeenan5439 Yes, definitely cheaper for a single stage and it was definitely a consideration. I wanted to keep with what the factory did. There were a few other reasons, but that was the main one

@@AZOverland2017 just find without a booth having to put down numerous coat with the clear over base method is your trapping a lot more dust bugs ect between the numerous coats

@@jeffkeenan5439 "Stuff" getting in a basecoat is typically not an issue. The basecoats don't go down very wet like clear. They dry fast and I'm using a tack rag between coats. Any imperfections can easily be sanded out and blended in before clear. You actually have more of a chance to bury dust and bugs in a single stage because you are laying down 3-5 wet coats and are usually not using a tack rag between those coats. The more wet coats, the more opportunity for things to land in the paint.

@@joe41985 I agree but the Arizona summer is brutal and I had to stay out of the sun

@@thedengr My neighbor's are always working on some sort of projects themselves, so they are very cool. I don't normally paint in my garage. When I did this it was a weekday so there weren't many people around. I am in the process of putting together a very cool roll-up paint booth now with full filtering. I'll get a video out soon of that setup

I just tell them to mind there business

@@mikez6683 Which part of the video?

@@AZOverland2017 Right in the beginning. You have 600 written on the box. I have the same sandpaper. I can’t see the number on the box so mine is the same way with the sharpy. It actually looked like you had my boxes in your garage.

@@mikez6683 Ahhh. Yeah, I like to mark it all so I can just grab and go. No time to squint

Thanks. 1.4

@@upbuild4397 Thanks! The one I'm using is from 3M. I can't find the same one either but this one appears similar amzn.to/3S0S2HQ

Ah that’s great, thank you for the link 👍👍

We are getting there. Thank you

@@kenneththomas2006 From NY, live in AZ

I wish my ceilings were higher in this garage. My 1 car garage has nice high ceilings, but it's too narrow. I have the car lift in there

@@alliums361 Thanks for watching!

Thank you. That is a great setup you have. If I did this more often I would certainly invest in exhaust fan/filter setups. When HVLP was just coming on in the late 80's and early 90's I remember a rep from Sherwin Williams coming to our body shop on Long Island to demonstrate their turbine HVLP system. It was impressive back then but so expensive since it was not widely used and new to the market. Yes, PPE is extremely important in this profession

Nothing like doing 2 paint jobs, lol. I did my 1st paint job in my parents' garage in the mis 80's. Both the car and the garage were a mess!

It was dry enough to tack rag it. I run my finger along tape near a window to test it before I ready the next coat

Greetings for the US. Thanks for your comment. I've used Devilbiss guns years ago but a siphon cup, not gravity feed. It was an excellent gun. You don't need a really expensive gun to get good results. Good luck with the Capri. I like those years body style.

@@Lolatyou332 Well, because it's over 100 degrees here in AZ and I wasn't in the mood to melt. That's 1 reason I guess

@@mikecunningham7621 Thanks. It all depends on the gun, your settings, and level of experience. With the LVLP guns you typically move a bit closer because there is less product transfer. With an HVLP I allow a few extra inches of distance. Also, if I'm spraying at a higher pressure, and want to move quickly, I decrease my distance. It's all a balance. For painters with less experience I would definitely stay a little further back, adjust pressures and fluid output accordingly, and move slower

I used USC 4225 slow reducer

@@chris01479 Thanks! I like the way you think👍