@@nightwingshadow9551 *In Bruce Timm's DCAU universe In the *actual* DC comics, however, Bruce does treats Babs like a daughter. People are shocked because it'd be like if Batman screwed Dick Grayson, it's complete betrayal of the sidekick concept.
Completely agree. “Hush’s” characteristics in the movie also goes against his traditional ones. Spoilers ahead: Riddler is known for wanting attention, showboating, and overall proving his superiority by telling all he is capable of committing crimes despite putting his name out there. Hush is the exact opposite, working from behind, misdirecting, and using others to accomplish his goals while keeping his identity a secret. My favorite takes on Riddler are the ones that would want everyone to know from the start it was him that was the mastermind.
kah0326 Yeah well, it’s implied that the Lazarus pit also cured some of Nygma’s insanity, thus removing his need for attention and those stupid riddles.
Technically Riddler's obsessive need for attention is still there, with the Arthur Wynne clue and having his gang steal an armored car full of money knowing that would make Batman suspicious. Plus, Riddler unmasked in front of Catwoman, so he clearly still craved attention, but he changed his villain persona for his scheme because he knew the Riddler name had been tainted in the underworld (due to so many defeats) and assumed in order to manipulate his fellow villains he would have to pretend to be an all new, scarier/secretive villain (in the comic he was able to manipulate them without doing that). But Jeph Loeb's comic book version of Riddler (from Hush & The Long Halloween/Dark Victory/Catwoman: When in Rome) was a unique version of the character that was a cowardly but capable mastermind, and Jeph Loeb established Riddler as manipulative before writing Hush, as Riddler manipulates Catwoman in Catwoman: When in Rome, pretending to be her ally while scheming against her. And speaking of Hush, his original main characteristic was his need for revenge, so that much the movie did get right despite getting everything else wrong. But the most popular version of Hush wasn't even the original Jeph Loeb version, but instead the Paul Dini version, so I figure DC will make a Heart of Hush animated adaptation eventually, so I'm not that mad about this alternate version of Hush. Honestly I saw the original story as more of a Riddler story anyway since Tommy Elliot could not have carried out an effective revenge plot without the information and resources Riddler provided.
Gen Z I honestly was more offended watching this movie. Killing Joke is more what I’d call a bland and forgettable experience more than actually insulting.
*Me, watching Hush with no prior comic knowledge:* It's the doctor friend, isn't it? It's gotta be the doctor friend. Me: *gets to the big reveal* Wait, what? This doesn't feel right. No the Riddler CANNOT pull this off, he's not THAT low-key in his schemes and we would KNOW...oh, they're serious...UGHHHHH!
In the book, yes you are correct, Tommy Elliot was Hush which is why most of us who were already familiar with it hate the movie so, believe me, we completely understand your frustration.
I was in the exact same boat. I was so irritated by the twist and after I learned that it was supposed to be the guy they kept hinting at was hush in the comics, it all made more sense. They fucked it up for no reason. Another bad case of subverting our expectations in the worst way possible.
Hush the comic was good in spite of Thomas Elliott being Hush, not because of it. It was obvious from the beginning. The Lazerus Pit is what transforms Riddler into Hush in the animation, and it makes sense and offers a good reveal.
The animation and design is not whats killing the movies, its the shit story telling and ham fisted adaptations, like they name it after the comic as if its an adaptation like how (the second half of) the killing joke was an adaptation of the killing joke but they are no more adaptations of the comic they are named after than that cap 3 is an adaptation of civil war
Bad enough they ruined The Killing Joke, now they one of the better Batman storylines of the early 2000s? Man, the DC Universe Animated Films are becoming so mediocre these days.
Fully agreed. I Am three movies into a rewatch of all DC animated moves. We’re worlds away today from the story telling quality in Phantasm, Sub Zero and Return of Joker.
Anime is better and it’s taking over because our industry in terms of Animation and storytelling is absolute garbage and lack the talent we saw growing up throughout the early to mid 90s.
Michael Hester and that includes the Justice league, Superman the animated series, and Batman Beyond. And all though it wasn’t in the same continuity as those, teen titans ran at the same time and also deserves a spot as one of the best DC cartoons
There was at least some good things in the killing joke.. Not a great movoe and the book is 1000x better but I cant hate it completely because Mark Hamill sings
Honestly I've enjoyed the animated "Hush" changes from the source material way better than the extra 20 minutes *Paris Franz* + the batsex (I know that they briefly hooked up in the Batman:Beyond universe, and I wasn't a fan either)... I find The big change in that "Hush" movie is, IMHO, a pretty awesome way to spice up the DCAU univ \o/ I love Hush, I own all his stories, Heart of Hush, Hush Money, House of Hush, Hurt returns (a gem), and the BatCat pre-wedding story in which he goes after Nightwing, and reveals that he changed his face again, but to impersonate... Dick Grayson! Aaaanyway, I love this character (even if I understand why he has some detractors) but I still loved the twist in the movie; I wasn't really expecting an awesome movie, probably just a decent adaptation in which Tommy's guilt would sadly be even more obvious than in the comic because no time for subtelity. Instead I was really into the film, and even if I had guessed the new culprit At least in the animated version, there was a big dent in the Hush=Elliot theory: the fact that it was Batman who brought him into this, asking specifically for him to do his brain surgery in which he implanted a tracker. The comic explains it at the ending briefing session in the Batcave, but in the movie, nothing IIRC, and Tommy was just a giant red arrow. I guess that If you wanted this adaptaton to follow the original plot to the end, so it would fit better in the overall DCAU and in our collections, I totally understand your frustrations, but if you embrace the *twist* or watch it without knowing the real ending, you end up with a solid Riddler-driven story, and Nygma is awesome \o/ (dang it, another wall of text >< soz people...)
Hush was a bad adaptation but it was still a very fun ride. I liked the movie, but the comic was so much better and the movie could have tried to stick closer to the original or even made Batman Hush a 2 parter like The Death of Superman/Ride of the Supermen. I wouldn't call Hush as bad as The Killing Joke because TKJ had terrible animation and a useless Batgirl story before the real story that I couldn't imagine rewatching again on purpose. With Hush I'd watch it again because it was a movie where Batman fought almost every foe and had charming scenes with Selina Kyle (even though the voice actress wasn't great).
@@ProMonarchyGenius 1.shut the fuck up that game is ELSEWORLDS so they can do whatever they want. 2.she wasn't hush 3.that game is fucking dope especially season 2.
One of my biggest gripes with the DC animated movies is that most are FORCED into the New 52 timeline continuity of these films instead of being standalone movies like Under the Red Hood which means a lot of KEY characters from the comic book aren't in these films because some of them have NEVER been apart of the New 52 movies here (main one being Tim Drake)
This is a weird gripe, but I hate that people have to apologize for comparing this movie to the source material. This movie was made to be, at best, an adaptation of a prolific graphic novel for fans and, at worst, a commercial for a prolific graphic novel. I also don't understand why DC Animated Movies have been taking writing cues from the recent Disney movies by having the villain be someone was was _never set up to be the villain._ I hate bad Twist Villains, and I don't understand why this film and Gotham By Gaslight have gone out of their way to pull the wool over the eyes of its casual audience and its audience who actually read the source material. The reason why M. Night Shyamalan became a joke is because he became obsessed with writing twists with no set up or focusing too much on fooling the audience to think it was going to be one thing when it was actually another thing.
I really thought it would be Thomas Elliot. But instead they killed him off. I also play a lot of Arkham games so I liked that story line of how Thomas Elliot is Hush
I was very disappointed in the movie. I'm with you with the voice casting. I always get little bit pissed off when Kevin Conroy is not cast as Batman. Why Bane instead of Killer Croc in the opening sequence? I didn't mind some of that Nightwing scenes. But the whole Riddler as hush was completely bogus. Also where was Harvey Dent? I'm also pissed off that they didn't show Krypto!
Dent was in the montage of Batman and catwoman fighting crime (as two-face) when the movie decided it wanted to be more about their relationship than the mystery of hush. I wasn’t the biggest fan of Harvey’s reform in the book, being a big fan of two-face, but it did give us a good red herring (something the movie never gave us) and a hilarious Joker reaction face
And the way they got rid of the computer guy, Harold I think. I thought it was such a good twist, showing why batman thought of Tommy. Not to mention the fact that they ignored the Jason todd story.
Never was the comic, but when i first saw HUSH i assumed the doctor was going to be the bad guy, i though it was telegraphed, i actually like that the riddler was changed but that’s me.
Yeah it's so obvious that is was going to be Thomas Elliot, that you can't even call it a spoiler, now if they are going to use Hush in the movies, at least it can go two ways and there is at least a bit of mystery left
Ever since I saw the trailer, I was so disappointed in the fact the art style didn't even try to homage Jim Lee (Other than the suit design), and is part of the "new 52" line of movies that they started with Justice League War, voicewise and animation. In the mean time Batman TMNT was felt like they were inspired by Freddie Williams work. And really? That's what they did for the movie for the Hush reveal? God damn it. And wait if Tommy Elliot isn't Hush did they even do the Joker scene in this comic? And if they did what the hell is the point? It make that scene less meaningful.
Yeah.....the book that officially hinted that Todd might be alive after A Death In The Family and sets up Under The Hood gets a poor animated adaptation. Not good at all. If they are doing comic adaptations into animation, do them. At this rate, I do not trust them with any Crisis adaptation or other even more famous comic stories.
@@shauntempley9757 honestly i want like a short like maybe 45 minute long movie of the lost days, i think it would make alot more people understand where he is coming from and why he did what he did
@Reborn In Rationality No. It is the fact that Comic Hush used Jason's history, and every rogue and ally history to attack Bruce directly, while Comic Riddler used the exact same history to attack Batman. The fact that Batman came one punch away from killing Joker in the Comic shows that the scheme was working flawlessly. The other shocking moments in the Comic included Gordon stopping Batman from killing Joker, and Harvey Dent saving Batman from Hush. All while Luthor was President of The United States at the time. Before Public Enemies took place. Batman even mentions this story.
I hate to sound like a feminist (i am very much not one) but the way you worded that made it sound like you dislike any attention to female characters (i know you arent saying that i totally get and agree with what you are saying im just saying the way you worded it is funny and could cause some anger by those who dont understand your intent)
Yuki _ what I’m saying is stick to the adaption rather than sacrifice plot details key to the original work just so you can shoehorn in female importance in the story.
Yuki _ well don’t be acting like how I phrased it was wrong just because I don’t kiss ass every time I make a criticism. I’m tired of people kissing ass to soften a criticism. People should accept criticism as it is an opinion to be dismissed or thought upon.
They really needed to adapt Hush like a decade ago when they had a bigger budget and better art style choices and animation quality. So glad All-Star Superman turned up looking as good as it did back in 2011.
@laz kar yeah Under The Red Hood was a massive improvment to the original. It cut down characters and scenes the story doesnt need, and streamlining it to perfection.
Mostly, I agree with you. I didn't find the "different direction" to be that bad (not a deal-breaker), but I agree it's a much worse way to tell this story. Honestly, I couldn't really get into this one because of the flat acting of Batman. Excellent observation that many failed actors have the "emotionless" element. And can I just add a complaint- why do they try to make every villain a martial arts expert?! Totally missing the point that most of Batman's rogue's gallery rely on psychological or supernatural attacks to compensate for a lack of physical prowess.
Tell me about it, you think this wasn’t nightwing’s first rodeo with the scarecrow, but apparently the writers decided to fill him down like it was the first time he fought scarecrow. Cause even nightwing would be able to handle the scarecrow, and if he was so bent on striking in fear, why the hell didn’t he do that with the scarecrow??? Bad writing.
Ya'll be talking about how you miss the DCAU which I understand. But what about the PRE-52 or PRE-WAR films that were all set in the same world besides like All Star and TDKR. Bruh I FUCKING LOVE Under The Red Hood, honestly better then the comic
I agree with you. UTRH was a great adaption that simplified/streamlined the story without changing the plat at all. That's what I'm looking for in these animated movies that are titled after existing stories.
Glad to see such respect for hush from will, this was easily my favourite Batman story at the time and the one to introduce me to the relationships between the larger bat-family. I loved the art and got addicted to reading and rereading this mystery and character study, thanks for the video Will. Stay awesome.
Personally, I think if they were going to change Hush’s true identity anyway, they should’ve just merged the Red Hood storyline and made it Jason Todd.
Bojack Sanchez personally I don’t think so. The Arkham Knight was an original character and everyone already sort of figured it was Jason Todd (even though the devs denied it). This would’ve taken that red herring in the original comic (where Clayface impersonated Todd to further mess with Batman’s mind) and made it the twist that fans probably would’ve liked more, and would also make some sense. Still, I get where you’re coming from, in the sense that having the enigmatic enemy turn out to be Todd might be a bit repetitive in the eyes of most viewers.
The creative team obviously cashed out when making the comic book to a movie. I thought the movie was odd because it was nothing new to a common movie-watcher. It had a lot of common tropes i.(Bruce has friendships before being batman and play a pivotal role later in the film) ii.(Bruce is toying with the idea of having a romantic relationship with an acquaintance but could be very dangerous for his girlfriend to be a part in his life or examining batman's and selina's lifestyles when juxtaposed together ) iii.(This film shares a universe with other heroes; Superman is here!: serves as a plot device for batman and selina ) These are the overall highlights of this movie. This was lame in comparison to Batman Vs Robin (Which i believe is far more entertaining and fascinating than this generic entertainment)
The reveal being Riddler instead of Thomas was a big disappointment because it made the whole story seem pointless. It was unexpected indeed but it makes no sense that Riddler would go through all that trouble just to have a 1 v 1 fight with Batman with a sickle cane. If all he wanted was a 1 on 1 fight then what did all the previous planning accomplish? Taking control of Superman, Thomas's murder framed on Joker and everything else for what? Why not kidnap Cat woman from the beginning and hold her hostage? And why fight with just a cane? Isn't the purpose of a plan to bring all odds in your favor? Where are the henchmen? The extra weapons? All that unfair stuff bad guys are known for?
feels like i've been whisked back in time 30 years, screaming to production companies 'stop trying to be so damned clever! theres no need to adapt these tales for 'new 'audiences. Like all good narraratives, they stand firmly on their own 2 feet!"
So what you're saying is, it's the same disappointment as Son of Batman, Batman VS Robin, Batman Bad Blood and Justice league Dark. Most of the Batman specific movies of this new DC animated universe tend to disappoint, I find that it's because he hasn't got anyone like Green Lantern to bounce off of like the justice league movie
Watched it last night. Your criticism was very gracious, the movie was trash. My gaurd went up as soon as Bane appeared rather than Croc for absolutley no reason. Like you said, these DCAU can be great, but Jason Omar sucks as Batman in the best of them and to crap all over now two of the best Batman stories ever, Killing joke & Hush...I'm done with these 'adaptations'. They strip mined Court of Owls to shoe horn it into Batman V Robin and tampered with Hush now too, if you are absolutley have to alter two of the best stories with the most potential for great movie adaptations...Marry the Owls and Hush, call me crazy...
The movie was a huge let down. The revelation of Hush made me angry. The movie has it's moments, but man, I was very dissapointed with the decisions these people did. This is the worst Batman animated movie.
BEST animated Batman movies: Mask of the Phantasm Sub-Zero Return of the Joker The Batman vs Dracula Under the Red Hood The Dark Knight Returns 1 & 2 Year One Assault on Arkham Son of Batman Batman vs Robin Bad Blood Batman vs TMNT (Latest Fav) WORST animated Batman movies: The Killing Joke (if you skip the entire original opening scene) Batman and Harley Quinn The Batman Unlimited Series Hush (Latest least fav)
All these batman animated movies are just a reminder of how superior the btas/tnba era was. Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, Kevin Conroy, Eric Radomski and crew had lightning in a bottle. Amazing especially considering the insane limitations under which they worked (limited budget, G-rating, etc)
Holy shit! Thank you for this. I have never read Hush. I watched the movie with my son last night. I was like oh! I figured this out his Dr buddy is Hush. Then it turned out to be The Riddler and I thought I was wrong. Turns out I kind of wasn't.
The problem they made, which they also made with The Death of Superman/Reign of The Supermen, is that they tried to shoehorn the story into the Nu52 movies they've made.
Batman Hush was made to be a part of the DC Original Animated Movie Universe (Try to say THAT 5 times fast!) that started since Justice League War, just like the Death of Superman and Rise of the Supermen films that came in 2017-2018. And yeah, that art style is bland. Just look at their female faces, they almost all look the same!
All of the New 52 movies are disappointments. None even come close to the old movies like Justice League Doom, Crisis On Infinite Earths, Under The Red Hood and my favourite Flash Point Paradox.
The Riddler twist was such an incredible disappointment in an otherwise pretty enjoyable movie. I feel like the whole first 2/3rds of the movie they had the idea of keeping it Thomas Elliot, because Hush had absolutely nothing in common with Eddie Nygma at all till the very end and it felt very forced. Plus how Batman defeated Eddie at the end was painfully rushed and kind of embarrassing.
I was already confused cause they switched Killer Croc with Bane and then when Riddler was exposed as Hush I realized they were going off the rails. What’d I’d like to know is if they can’t get Kevin for these movies why not Bruce Greenwood? He’s amazing in Young Justice. To answer your question though I didn’t care for this movie I prefer the comic but for the sake of the DCAU I tried to support.
Sounds like Everything Marvel’s been doing since around 2010-2011. We got these characters yet they are barley The Characters. Just jokes and stars all in your face. Eh....... I pray I’d like this a bit/Lot more than the mess Disney’s making now, liking DC better over all. After hearing the spoilers from dude here......Naw I’m good. Might be nice for a rent, I guess? 🤔.
Read comic after the movie, on its own it's fine but If I would've read the comic first this might've pissed me off. It's so weird cause in the last 3rd on my first watch it felt like hush became a different person because he did. I will say though the reveal was better or at least it was a mystery. Like the moment I saw the character I said he's hush while watching the movie like the actual second he came on screen I said Tom Elliot was hush.
I think like Gotham by Gaslight(comic) the twist is less about who and more about why they're doing it. Which I like more than just twist it's this person! Cause it is very easy to work out. But Hush(film) followed in the footsteps of Gotham by Gaslight (film) and changed it for a shock reveal.
Batman villains and supporting cast - beyond excellent Batman himself - boring one note abusive arse I've no idea how people can truly like his character
The only thing I like in the film over the comic is the way Selina and bruce break up, it really says a lot about their characters and why the relationship probably won't work. I feel like hush the character was more interesting in later appearances than the original comic so i'm nit broken up over riddler but i don't think the ending was too effective. I feel like hush the comic is great for teaching people about batman as it covers a lot of history. Here it doesn't have that and i feel like the joker moment doesn't work nearly as well because the history of what he did to bruce and Jim isn't there as Jason, Tim and Sarah don't exist in this universe.
I was completely expecting Jason Todd but f ing riddler?! My mind was blown and not in the good way I suppose my hopes were based on Jason because of how much I loved Under the Red Hood it was just so disappointing. smh Edit: I just realized that Jim Lee is like head of dc how did he even let this happen?
Spoiler alert: Pretty much all of these DC animated movies are disappointments. They are made cheaply and quickly in order to churn out a few bucks and keep merch flowing.
Spoilers for anyone that cares Its so fuckin dumb that they made riddler hush instead of tommy elliot like WHATS THE POINT OF HIM BEING IN THE MOVIE IF HE ISNT HUSH
DC just recognized that fans were hungry for Jason Todd to return, after the fake out in Hush, so they capitalized on that sentiment and brought him back.
Will, I know this is a little late and I don't know if you have the time to fix it or if these aren't that big of a deal, but there are 2 problems with your videos skipping/repeating: 1) @2:28 very quick skip 2) @11:34 there is a repeat Your content is great and because of you I finally got into reading comics! The reason I just watched this one now was because I finally finished reading Hush and had to come back to watch your video on it now that I know the spoilers.
I don’t think hush failed as a movie because it wasn’t adapted perfectly to the comic, many adaptations are better because they change the original in ways that make it better. Though I have not read the comic I do know how it ends, I cannot say if I like the comic or movie better because I didn’t read the comic. Another complaint I hear is hush’s identity, and the fact that the movie changed it. I think this is probably for the better, because if the mystery of his identity just comes down to: mysterious character not in any other comic. And a villain not in any other comic, you do see how easy that is to solve (and I do know about the plastic surgery to make his face change but if his face changes more than once he could still be anyone). It’s less of a mystery and more of a crappy riddle, so much so that a third grader could solve it. When I was watching the movie I immediately thought that Elliot was hush because he was a character unseen in any other comic or movie. But because it was the riddler no one expected it. And one more thing if your complaining about the voice acting you’re looking for flaws, more than looking for the good things about the movie
@@billmcdermott9647 so they took an excellent short story and added in a bunch of unnecessary cameos, the story they told was nowhere near as interesting as the original. It was more focused on including other Batman characters and having a shocking twist ending than telling a good story. The Gordon twist felt insulting to his character, I know it's Elseworlds but they just turned him into a psycho who hates sex workers so he kills them. Gone is the quite frankly disturbing reason for the murders in the original story and in it's place a surprise it's a character who you'd never expect twist. If you haven't read the original the murderer is fairly obvious but the reason for his actions is more important than who it is. The art style used is terrible and barely echos Mignolas style, instead it looks very flat and they make an awesome Batsuit kinda silly looking with the overly large eyeholes, which were a bit more subtle in the comic. The animation is pretty bland too. Also in it's cameo quest they also add in another pointless romance side plot with Catwoman. Finally the ending is terrible, we get an animated series esque everything is exploding escape in the nick of time confrontation and then it's over. Gotham by Gaslight is one of my favourite Batman stories and one of the first comics I bought, I'm only recently into collecting comics. I feel the movie took a great story and tore it too shreds needlessly, they would have been better off adding a bit more Batman work, maybe an extra crime subplot to extend the run time a bit but should've kept the main story intact. I was very disappointed.
For me, collecting and reading comics came during the "For Tomorrow " superman run (when I was a senior in high school) with azarello and lee... mainly for Lee's art. But it was through this that I found the hush story. And it sucked because I tried tracking down the whole series but never could... until they made the trade. I found it years later at an airport book store with my son and that was his first ever delve into comics. Hush and "World War Hulk" I think he was about 8 or 9
The fact they completely changed the entire story and big reveals just baffles me to no end, I couldn't believe what they did. I won't spoil it but yea.....TRASH!!!!!
Would it be worth watching even if you don't care about the comics? I don't watch much DC at all really only Young Justice, and the Killing Joke movie.
I think they're trying to make something that someone new to this stuff can enjoy, and still mix stuff up for the vets who know what's going to happen to keep them guessing, but the end result is just usually "meh"
Well they definitely mixed it up 😂 But yea if you don't care about the comics it's a good watch, it's only disappointing if you read the comic and know what's supposed to be happening.
I had a precursory glance at the miniseries a few years back but I don't remember it at all, other than the identity of Hush, so I'll probably watch it, then read it again. I keep holding out hope that they'll do a three movie event on Knightfall; that could be pretty hot, especially with Damian in the mix now.
Why it wasn't that bad although I'll admit it was a bit over height like why is the Riddler hush what's the point of Thomas Elliott being in this movie if they're going to kill him off why is the romance between Selena and Bruce so lovey-dovey why did Bruce suddenly snap on the Joker I watched all the new 52 movies and there is nothing that Batman lost so it does not make sense for him to snap on the Joker and Barbara Gordon Batgirl was relegated to a cameo once again but other than that the movie wasn't that bad it just wasn't the best than the comic wasn't that bad it just wasn't great but it's watchable
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 i can understand those criticisms and i respect your opinion however personally in my opinion i just find the whole twist with the riddler being hush really not making any sense in the grand scheme of things and doesn't add to anything really and makes the whole mystery to hush really now null and void which really sucks because thomas elliot as hush was really interesting in my opinion then this idea with the Riddler being hush but that's just my opinion.
@@TevyaSmolka oh I don't like Riddler as hush sorry for the confusion I mean why is he hush it doesn't make sense it should be Thomas Elliot but thanks anyway just want to clear that up
The Hush movie was a let down. The Hush reveal was lame. The Batman vs Superman fight was even more lame not as well written in the comic book/ I couldn't get thru the flim without feeling kinda bored of it. I enjoy Batman vs TMNT alot more. I enjoyed Batman :Hush: Comic wayyyy alot more than the flim. Yeah...... It kinda sucked..
I unfortunately agree with the voice issue with Batman. It is the same with other voice actors in these movies. I love him an others in different media but when Shemar Moore as Cyborg talks it is the same as issue with Jason O'mara as Batman. The end of the movie did take a left turn for me when also read both Batman Hush Graphic Novels.
DC ... proof that entropy exists. Everything they change is for the negative... the art, the writing.... garbage. The only "positive" aspect is that it was not as abysmal as Batman and Harley Quinn (2017) ....
The only conclusion ive come to based on these last couple DC films is that they make passable action movies but can't write a decent character arc to save their lives. Honestly these Batman films have gone through so many lead directors you'd think just one of them would know how properly adapt these beloved story lines. Whats happening to DC animation? The
Batman Bad Blood is worst, Batman Hush movie has a horrible ending which almost ruins the experienced but is still better than Bad Blood. To me Batman Bad Blood and Superman Brainiac Attacks are the worst DC animated movies.
I found out about Hush after Batman 'died' in Final Crisis. He was prominent in a new book, Streets of Gotham, if I remember. It was a good book and got me into the character but I still never got a chance to read the story where he debuted. I'll watch it on DCU when I get the chance then read it see how it holds that way for me. On a whole, it's a shame to see some of these DC animated movies not hitting the mark in these classic stories, like the original one, Doomsday (which they later remedied in the Death of and Return if Superman) and The Killing Joke. Hopefully they can find a nice middle ground or just not do them at all. Some things don't have to be or can be adapted to other media.
The fact that they changed the storyline really pissed me off... hated cat woman in the movie as well the riddler reveal was hella disappointing. Reading the hush comic gave me high expectations for this film and I was flabbergasted when I watched it... 2/5 in my opinion at least the animation was alright
Will, thank you for making this! I've been waiting for someone to discuss the slowly declining quality of the DC Animated movies. I was leaning towards not buying this release based on how disappointing Reign Of The Supermen was. I appreciate you putting this out there, man. Thanks!
You describing your discovery of mainstream Batman comics and your love of "Hush" in 2002/2003, sounds like me discovering X-men (Xtinction Agenda) and Spider-Man (Maximum Carnage) back in the early 90's.
Hopefully they don't butcher the story like they did with Gotham by Gaslight too, that movie sucked big time. The graphic novel is a masterpiece but the film was just a revolving door of cameos for no reason and a twist that insulted Jim Gordon.
I re-read HUSH before watching the movie two years ago, and the story makes no sense. [SPOILERS] If Thomas Elliot is determined to kill his parents, why would he suddenly have to wait for his mother, a survivor of his attempted assassination, to die a natural death? The guy is obviously a genius, at least with superior intelligence, he just had to find another way to kill her. Poison her I don't know. It does not hold water. It would have been better for Thomas to obsessively resent Bruce for not keeping his promise, as the reader is led to assume at first.
