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Humanity has lost the battle against climate change. That is what Paul Kingsnorth thinks. The former environmental activist believes that we can´t stop climate change anymore. How should we live on knowing that climate change is a fact that can´t be denied anymore? A documentary that gives thinker and writer Paul Kingsnorth the time to explain how humanity still can be hopeful although the battle against climate change in his eyes has been lost.
Former environmental activist and writer Paul Kingsnorth has withdrawn to Ireland on a unspoilt part of the earth. You could say that he lives now at the end of the world. A portrait of an end-time thinker who nevertheless does not give up hope and continues to believe in the power of nature.
Thinker and writer Paul Kingsnorth stood early on the barricades as a conservationist. He resisted the insatiable hunger of the globalized world for more land, resources and things in England and on the other side of the world in Papa New Guinea. Kingsnorth was one of the leaders of the environmental movement and reached a large international audience with its passionate speeches. But at some point, he came to terms that he had to revisit his belief that humanity could save the world.
In his bundled essays "Confessions of a recovering environmentalist" (2017) he describes how some weak-kneed accountants of this world hollowed out the green movement from the inside and exchanged the barricades for ties and conference tables. Limiting CO2 emissions became the new gospel because it was measurable and countable. But according to Kingsnorth, that is an illusion. He thinks that in his victory rush, the green movement of today exchanges the remaining wild nature for a wind or solar panel farm. The battle is lost.
Kingsnorth withdrew with his family to the Irish countryside to live self-sufficient. He founded the "Dark Mountain Project" in which writers, poets and artists are looking for a different view of the end of the world, based on the connection between man and nature. He exchanged his clenched fist and protesting voice for an inner, literary search for the question of what makes us human and what our place is on this magical planet.
Original titel: De aarde draait door
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Research: Henneke Hagen
Camera: Gregg Telussa
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@vprodocumentary
@vprodocumentary 4 года назад
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@joeknightus8827
@joeknightus8827 2 года назад
The world will do just fine after it rids itself of these cancerous humans once and for all!
@johngibson4882
@johngibson4882 4 года назад
His remarks on how sustainability has basically been bought, rebranded as a product and sold back to us is spot on. Otherwise known as green washing. I feel the same way.
@UPCSE
@UPCSE 5 лет назад
You gave me Paul Kingsnorth and with him a sense of relief from self-imposed burden of changing the world.. Sober and deep thinking for peace of mind so needed right now. Indeed it's about our collective transformation with love and humbleness, where everyone plays a part. Thank you for a beautiful thoughtful story.
@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344
@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344 2 года назад
Didn't know this guy before this. He can really express what I often felt but couldn't put well enough in words. Now I love this guy and his beautiful family.
@smkh2890
@smkh2890 3 года назад
" He exchanged his clenched fist and protesting voice for an inner, literary search for the question of what makes us human and what our place is on this magical planet." I can relate: '60s environmentalism didn't seem to go anywhere,
@Wallafaza
@Wallafaza 4 года назад
Great documentary, thank you. It boiled down so many of my similar perspectives and thoughts in a cohesive way. Hearing someone speaking so calmly about what some would discard as extreme cynicism really lets me breathe for a moment.
@UKtoUSABrit
@UKtoUSABrit 5 лет назад
I'd never heard of Kingsworth before. Expected that his views would aggravate me. However, I had the opposite reaction. Very cool, intelligent, rational guy - with some VERY interesting perspectives on life and the planet. Very thought-provoking.
@stephenverchinski409
@stephenverchinski409 5 лет назад
Greens are like that.
@EuroUser1
@EuroUser1 4 года назад
Willingly or naively, this man is a puppet of the fossil fuel industry. By 2018, many countries were already running with 30+% of renewable electricity. Why does he say, around 3:25, that there's no way we can provide enough renewables? As Al Gore pointed out many years ago, the fossil fuel industry tries to conveys three contradictory messages, to foster confusion and let the listener pick and choose: 1- Climate change is not happening. 2- Climate change is happening, but not man-made. 3- Climate change is happening and man-made, but already impossible to curb. All 3 statements are lied. Climate change is real and man-made. But we can still stop the more serious consequences of it. We need to act quickly and decisively in the next decade. And we should be planting the foundations of said actions right now.
@bobbyhuston2479
@bobbyhuston2479 3 года назад
Mr Kingsworth the 🌐needs more of your kind🤞🤙👍 Okay👏!
@grimgrimey
@grimgrimey 3 года назад
@@EuroUser1 sorry buddy but if you have read the latest IPCC report and I read through it to find even a morsel of hope... There is none.
@EuroUser1
@EuroUser1 3 года назад
@@grimgrimey. Honestly, I haven't read the report. I believed the news reporting that there's still room for manoeuvrer, even if large damage is already inevitable. If you could point out to me where the report says that there is no hope - and, more to the point, that there was neither in April 2019 - I'm ready to reconsider my position. Otherwise, you're merely giving your personal opinion; no matter how thoroughly you've read the report.
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
@dinnerwithfranklin2451 5 лет назад
This is my introduction to Mr Kingsnorth. I'm really impressed and have to admit that I find my own sense of the world resonating with what he says.
@Peter-nv3wu
@Peter-nv3wu 5 лет назад
Well done Paul, it takes a great deal of courage to stand up and tell the truth that the planet can not be saved, sadly no politician has the courage to speak up as you do and tell the whole truth !
@armageddonouttahere1090
@armageddonouttahere1090 5 лет назад
Thank you Paul, both for this and for your book 'One no, many Yeses' which really shaped my politics and worldview. I am involved in Extinction Rebellion because the movement knows massive change is coming, that this is a spiritual crisis and that we need to have these conversations with the rest of life- or at least, begin to listen. I stopped being an activist about 11 years ago because I was also disillusioned and because I had children. But the growing crises are so great now that I have been yearning to be more active. Then Extinction Rebellion came along and my direct experiences with it have assured me that this is something worth doing. We won't 'solve' climate change, no. Slowing it down somewhat, regenerating what we've damaged, helping to wake people up to how we need to tell a different story of ourselves and how we're dependent on the web of Life... these are things I feel called to do through activism and my writing and channel. You still have important things to say, so please keep saying them.
@ssiddarth
@ssiddarth 5 лет назад
Enlightening documentary & it would be a boon to have such parents who are so knowledgeable & can teach you so much about the nature of reality. “The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.” ― Mahatma Gandhi
@vprodocumentary
@vprodocumentary 5 лет назад
Enigma thank you so much!
@bobbyhuston2479
@bobbyhuston2479 3 года назад
I remember Mahatma Gandi⚡🕵👍.
@linmal2242
@linmal2242 2 года назад
The world will NOT have enough for everyones need in future when the population doubles !
@pereraddison932
@pereraddison932 2 года назад
@@linmal2242 ... Well, that came and is currently wenting, with some lamenting an actual sharp population decline. Look forward to more stagflation, and prepare the best you know how. This, too, will pass, to be seen as just another blip ...
@9squares
@9squares 5 лет назад
Fantastic! Paul is most thoughtful, his theories, beliefs, or assessments ring true, and he is an inspiration. Wonderful documentary.
@vprodocumentary
@vprodocumentary 5 лет назад
Thank you very much, Tim Christensen!
@andyroid7339
@andyroid7339 5 лет назад
Excellent documentary. It is saddening that Paul feels the "pressure" of environmentalism so greatly that he feels that he needs to withdraw, particularly at a time when society needs his skills so much. I hope that he'll realise that he is not on his own in the way he thinks (even though he feels other environmentalists have "sold out") and that now is no better time to continue to communicate his message.
@vprodocumentary
@vprodocumentary 5 лет назад
Googi Shite thanks! Very appreciated!
@andyroid7339
@andyroid7339 5 лет назад
@@vprodocumentary You're welcome! In these times where intelligent content seems increasingly hard to come by, it's good that I've discovered such a channel. Thankyou!
@falseprogress
@falseprogress 5 лет назад
The wind power industry alone may have triggered his big shift, as it did for many like-thinkers. The zeal with which Greens defend such obvious landscape destruction is deeply disappointing. falseprogress.home.blog/2016/11/03/windschmerz-wind-energy-is-not-green/ 22:35 He obviously meant fusion - or maybe that was dialect.
@elifire4147
@elifire4147 4 года назад
His "skills" of whining like a baby? Democratic skill no doubt.
@brianwhite9555
@brianwhite9555 5 лет назад
Timely video, thoughtful reflections on Paul Kingsnorth's part. Sounds like Paul has decided to grow where he is planted, but had the wisdom to plant himself and his family in an environment that is conducive for optimum growth. Everyone has to find their own peace in life, then build on it. Would like to hear from him again in the future.
@olli-pekkalindgren4032
@olli-pekkalindgren4032 5 лет назад
I think it's a great idea to burn wood to heat our houses but that only works if we are something like half a billion people in the world. There is not enough wood or land to grow the trees for everybody. Our biggest problem is overpopulation.
@gregpoirier1779
@gregpoirier1779 5 лет назад
We have re-look at the idea of freedom to reproduce. We may have to adopt a Lottery System. In other words....not everyone will reproduce..... at least for a few generations. We have to clamp down on reproduction.. Even Agenda 21 will use ATTRITION.....not MURDER, to reduce population.
@Kiyarose3999
@Kiyarose3999 5 лет назад
Olli-Pekka Lindgren Not true, if we lived a Green Lifestyle and adopted a plant based diet we could feed ourselves on 1/8 of an acre, if you add onto that another 2/8 for housing and other ‘needs’ such as hospitals etc. Then we would only be using 3/8 of the approx 1 acre there is for each person in the UK. The earth is not overpopulated by numbers, but by the lifestyles of a minority of people in wealthy ‘developed’ countries, The majority of people who live in poor countries live lightly!.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 5 лет назад
Kang bed-stove masonry rocket heaters, TLUD stoves
@steve-r-collier
@steve-r-collier 5 лет назад
if we stopped the Elite breeding it would solve everything
@tbthomas5117
@tbthomas5117 5 лет назад
In fact, the vast majority of humans haven't the intellectual capacity to process the notion that they are one of 7.7-billion very similar organisms, each of which sees itself as the 'center of the known universe'. Getting to a sustainable number (whatever it might be) would be harder than you think. Our dominant economic paradigms are based almost entirely on perpetuating an 'under-class' which lives on the ragged edge of survival, 24x7, and are thus willing to accept the necessity to perform arduous and psychologically debilitating manual labor indefinitely. I would love to see the "In Our America" crowd -- you know, the social justice narcissists who believe "All People are Equal" -- faced with the necessity of sharing their equality with the many billions of unwashed, marginally educated 'peasants' who survive by snipping loose threads off their designer jeans, or slap together their microwave ovens for them. We will get to a sustainable population of humans eventually, "Mother Nature" has already put in 'the fix', its just a matter of time to see which of several 'herd thinning processes' gets triggered first.
@urtemor992
@urtemor992 5 лет назад
nice to see a person who has arrived through learning and observing to an almost the same philosophical end point as I have. This is not a very common point of view
@Cinetterose
@Cinetterose 5 лет назад
I'd like to live off the grid and grow my own food, surrounded by nature, animals, clean air, water and get away from this awful toxic life. I can't do it alone.
@kaigogolin515
@kaigogolin515 5 лет назад
7 billion People doing this and nature is doomed.... You will create another kind of Elite which is fortunate enough to have the possibility to live on/from the land. This will be only possible if enough people live in cities so that a few people can live on/from the land.
@dcyphyr
@dcyphyr 3 года назад
@@kaigogolin515 Nah, most people will die trying. Self correcting problem.
@stephenking4170
@stephenking4170 5 лет назад
your current life style is not selfish. You are raising a family of kids in a healthy way, investing in the future, leaving a personal legacy. It's a wonderful blessing from or creator.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
What are you talking about? Procreation is the most selfish human act.
@user-ej3jy6eg6h
@user-ej3jy6eg6h 5 лет назад
@@obsoleteoptics look at Africa's population projections
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
@@user-ej3jy6eg6h I don't need to. I know the trajectory we're on as a species; it's the wheat and chessboard problem personified.
@user-ej3jy6eg6h
@user-ej3jy6eg6h 5 лет назад
@@obsoleteoptics do it anyway. Pull up africa 1950 population. Look at 2100 projections.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
@@user-ej3jy6eg6h Do you know what the wheat and chessboard problem is? Do you understand basic exponential functions? Global human birth rates outpace death rates almost 3 to 1; that's not even remotely sustainable.
@AlexandreLollini
@AlexandreLollini 5 лет назад
I like the education he gives to his children. I like the education I get from watching this video. Despair serves no purpose. Nothing there is incompatible with activism and action to battle climate change and prepare for the inevitable defeat.
@rukisar6312
@rukisar6312 5 лет назад
1:40 This is key. I heard on another documentary that we should save "the species that help us the most" because we can't save them all now. But as long as we view nature as a resource to take from, that's what got us into this. There has to be a respect and a two way relationship - our relationship with nature can't be all about taking. What goes around comes around. We have to believe nature is worthwhile even when it is not useful to us. That plant and animal lives have value even when they have no monetary value. Otherwise, even the utilitarian parts of nature for humans will be gone eventually.
@dfs20111984
@dfs20111984 5 лет назад
Seems like he has found some peace. Respect.
@gabyluriz2073
@gabyluriz2073 5 лет назад
we are riding on a bus, and then suddenly the driver started shouting that we have to get off because it is running out of control and there is deep ravine ahead. and all we say is, "it is uncomfortable to walk and it is better to be on the bus with its comfy sits."
@brawndo8726
@brawndo8726 5 лет назад
I've been watching this come for well over a decade. Basic study of economics shows exactly how things were destined to play out. Still crossing my fingers for the promised "global awakening"...
@duggydugg3937
@duggydugg3937 5 лет назад
vast majority unaware of the Godzilla in the room.... govt borrowing.! Why the hell should any Sovereign government feel the need to borrow a penny? 99% of the Nations around the world have given up their sovereignty by letting bankers buy the right to print the currency... now you know why nation-states have to sell bonds to borrow dollars or the equivalent currency... borrowing money by government has the same effect as you borrowing money to buy a house a car an education...... debt... Debt plus interest... government doesn't earn money there for tax revenue it's not enough to pay back the illicit bonds or their monthly interest payments... The swindle will eventually take down world's economies if not stopped
@bobbyhuston2479
@bobbyhuston2479 3 года назад
🤞👍
@bobbyhuston2479
@bobbyhuston2479 3 года назад
🤞⏳!
@fragglesbollox2126
@fragglesbollox2126 5 лет назад
One of the big issues we have to overcome is Class, I have lived in Eco aware communities in the UK, and lovely and "woke" as everyone is, what is very noticable is how these communities are largely middle class in their make up, There is the luxury of money which can buy you into a ecologically aware consumerism, lifestyle, and the time and ability to find peace, creativity, and the mental wellbeing to be effective, and of course property and land. Secondly there is a wiff of exclusivity and dismissiveness toward people with regional accents, or less educated/refined ways (like me-self). The reality is that in order to move forward, we need a political/spiritual philosophy that is more inclusive, and where access to land and ecological lifestyles are available to everyone, and that the benefits of a "less is more outlook" (in terms of health and wellbeing is promoted on a level we currently see for consumerism, but coming at people where they are at rather than lecturing down)... I am not alone in feeling powerless at the gulf between my values and my ideal of an authentic life... the urban (work produce consume) life I have to live (because the reality of my world, in terms of finances and family commitments), renders such an eco lifestyle an unobtainable dream. I do sense that many inside this philosophical bubble fail to fully grasp this.,
@remicaron3191
@remicaron3191 5 лет назад
I absolutely love this guy. Finally someone how understands that the problem is our consumption not how we consume. We are already dead like all other intelligent life in the universe we will soon be gone and the next intelligence in the UNIVERSE can start wondering where everyone is, and why they aren't seeing them as they destroy their world trying to find themselves. It was fun but we never grew up.
@jimhood1202
@jimhood1202 4 года назад
Well presented documentary. Sobering to listen to such a passionate man describe his withdrawal from the fight with such resignation. I'm watching this on a little piece of jungle in Panama with similar feelings about the state of the world. Sometimes depressed but mostly positive. There will surely be an adjustment in the way we live in the not too distant future how we come out of it as a species will depend on a radical rethink of our relationship with our surroundings.
@chrisruss9861
@chrisruss9861 5 лет назад
He is right about tree planting. I have an impractical city block full of overgrown trees and as an older person I cannot bring myself to sell it and see it trashed. It is high rise for birds, spiders and even a snake so staying here buys them time.
@eatchabeans8363
@eatchabeans8363 5 лет назад
Trees plant themselves. Unfortunately humans reproduce too
@dianalyman5950
@dianalyman5950 4 года назад
He mentioned that we have NOT BEEN domesticated. I beg to differ, WE domesticated ourselves, we are genetically modifying ourselves as a species to NOT be able to live within our natural environment. You could look at it as "collective laziness" because living in harmony with it is hard work.
@galefraney
@galefraney 5 лет назад
Fantastic documentary!! One of the better ones I’ve seen for awhile! Thanks for posting.
@briancam_2000
@briancam_2000 4 года назад
ANOTHER NO NUKE IDIOT PROMOTES SUICIDE YOU GO FIRST OK
@Julieann1437
@Julieann1437 4 года назад
How sweet ur son is . such a smart and bright young man !!! Smart , brilliant what u and ur wife did .. I wish I could do same. Hate city life.... U guys rock 🎸 literally great job also on your music 🎶 ur great.... Much love from Rhode Island 🇺🇸
@mrweasel
@mrweasel 5 лет назад
Thanks for this. I feel like I understand Paul a lot better from this. I don't agree with everything he says here, but we are definitely on the same side and I respect the path he has taken.
@lenilenape
@lenilenape 2 года назад
Consumerism is what has "got" us into the situation we are in. "The best things in life are not things."
@kathrynepaine2883
@kathrynepaine2883 5 лет назад
Right on, Paul Kingsnorth!
@24haikus
@24haikus 5 лет назад
excellent documentary with fine examples and and fine reflections and proper pace, gratitude from me
@3000_d_bomb
@3000_d_bomb 5 лет назад
Reading some of the comments here..... Doesn't seem like some of you guys got this at all
@mickgatz214
@mickgatz214 5 лет назад
No stupid questions, Just stupid people. :)
@jeremycassidy3796
@jeremycassidy3796 5 лет назад
Many people seem to just comment on the title of the video. Which for me doesn't represent the video!
@100mphFastball
@100mphFastball 5 лет назад
Guilty parties in denial using deflection.
@devonseamoor
@devonseamoor 5 лет назад
Exactly, it's proof of how climate change has turned into a religion to some and how it's perceived as total nonsense by others, ridiculing it, due to the presence of that fanatism. Climate change, how it's sold to us, is a false presentation of causes that are found based on data that are misinterpreted and copied by numerous scientists who don't dare to express a different opinion. For they risk losing their job and reputation. What's there to "get"? Make up your own mind, planet Earth has already done that and she's a living organism, warming up towards a new expression of her original old Self. The entire Solar System is changing, it's a natural cycle where we're all approaching the finale of human life in 3D. Got it?
@eatchabeans8363
@eatchabeans8363 5 лет назад
Enlighten us
@charlesleblanc6638
@charlesleblanc6638 2 года назад
That was a great documentary, of a man I've gain great respect for and that I can relate to, in the very short amount of time that I've listened to his wisdom.
@RomainJouandeau
@RomainJouandeau 5 лет назад
Very inspiring, letting go is hard but probably the only healthy way to go...
@Patrick-jj5nh
@Patrick-jj5nh 5 лет назад
Beautiful film. Thank you.
@gonzalobarros
@gonzalobarros 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video, it is very credible! As Paul says, the ego does not let us listen to nature. And we should not only defend nature because of climate change, but because it is respectable in itself. Let's start changing us. Y para mis amigos en español: Tal como dice Paul, el ego no nos deja escuchar la naturaleza. Y no sólo debiéramos defender la naturaleza debido al cambio climático, sino que por que en sí misma es respetable. Partamos cambiando nosotros.
@roberthicks1612
@roberthicks1612 5 лет назад
To be expected those that support want us to become the next Venezuela.
@richardlangley90
@richardlangley90 5 лет назад
I think that respect is the key word. Our lack of respect for other living things, the air, the water...etc etc is the root problem. I don't see this as a spiritual failing I see this as simply irresponsible, shirking our responsibility as a creature that can actually appreciate the results of our decisions...the harm that we perpetrate on an indefensible world. We can reason therefore we have no excuse.
@roberthicks1612
@roberthicks1612 5 лет назад
Sorry, but to me that just sounds like more socialist claptrap. Good luck with your spiritualism, but when you try to force your beliefs on others it never works out for anyone.
@brianwhite9555
@brianwhite9555 5 лет назад
@@roberthicks1612, Actually, it didn't sound like anyone was "forcing" their beliefs on anyone. No one forced you to watch the video or read the comments. They were freely expressing thoughtful opinions. Obviously Paul Kingsnorth has given this a great deal of thought, and is pretty adept at expressing those thoughts. And if you think it sounded "socialist", then you really don't know what socialism is. Perhaps this calls for some homework on your part. Did you have any thoughtful reflections on the video, or were you just trolling the comments section?
@roberthicks1612
@roberthicks1612 5 лет назад
I wasn't referring to the video when I used the word forcing but to the guy above me. As to socialism, the entire alarmism is based on a fraud committed by people trying to create a socialist world government. I am sure there are a few people that are not part of it that get caught up in it, but all the "evidence" of man made climate change was created by socialist.
@AniishAu
@AniishAu 5 лет назад
Exquisite images and sounds, and beautiful ideas; congratulations. I found it particularly refreshing to hear an environmentalist speaking humbly, and even raising spirituality. I concur that there is no simple analysis and are no simple solutions, and that a fundamental mental outlook shift must occur: there is no technological salvation awaiting. I disagree that we are all to blame. Paul needs to study Big Money, and its merciless, relentless subjugation of politics, education, media, etc to bend populations to its will. Though I agree, to a certain extent we have all been complicit in this, most are ignorant, or powerless. Eventually there will be a backlash, and words will be more powerful than dollars. I trust Paul Kingsnorth's words (or his children's) will then finally have their day.
@vicentacobo9293
@vicentacobo9293 5 лет назад
Fantastic, I share your vision, we need to broaden our consciousness and love nature. We are part of the web of life. So inspiring listening to you!
@KalinZahariev
@KalinZahariev 4 года назад
Precisely how I want to live my life - very helpful. Thank you for making this film and sharing it with the world.
@HarveyFrench
@HarveyFrench 5 лет назад
A lovely man, and lovely family. What an interesting way of life. I'm in agreement with his philosophies but haven't been able to do much about my own lifestyle yet. Good luck to them all.
@concernedcanadian6683
@concernedcanadian6683 5 лет назад
Research Grand Solar Minimum and cross reference with Worldwide Crop Shortages
@karih9592
@karih9592 3 года назад
It is time to learn about the Great Waves of Change [The Great Waves of Change, Navigating the Difficult Times Ahead]
@WonderMagician
@WonderMagician 5 лет назад
Time for Fundamental Change in our perception, orientation and values
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 5 лет назад
So tawat explain your bollocks
@henryholt1359
@henryholt1359 5 лет назад
I assume like this guy you think you can buy yourself into this lie.. the truth for most we are trapped.. capitalism will prevail and the only perception that has reality and value is money.. sitting on a beach thinking you are making a difference is delusion..the trajectory is,we will grind the planet to dust and ourselves with it.
@CandidDate
@CandidDate 5 лет назад
Science is a parting gift from the Gods to humankind. We are here to use science to bring about the new world. Only logical conclusion.
@henryholt1359
@henryholt1359 5 лет назад
@@CandidDate science will not change abrupt climate change..the feedbacks are increasing like a massive snowball down a hill..we who see the science, are under no illusions (such as the economist's), that geoengineering will reverse our footprint.. the greatest lie (that is not scientific) is we should reduce our emmisions to save the planet..the science says that the aresol masking effect will spike temperature within weeks if we stopped burning fossil fuels today,as particulates are keeping us cool.. enjoy it while you can.
@claudearmstrong9232
@claudearmstrong9232 5 лет назад
@@CandidDate - the fact is, people gravitate toward liars. Man-caused climate change is fabricated in the hoax that enslavement is good for the masses. It isn't good for anyone
@pseudonamed
@pseudonamed 3 года назад
A lot of this makes sense. Living here and now but with eyes open about what the future brings. Finding a balance of preparing and becoming more resilient without losing sight of the ability to live a good life, living here now, connecting with the land and always learning and teaching.
@funkymaniak
@funkymaniak 5 лет назад
Whilst I admire the kind of Stoic peace this guy has found, this film is not about climate change. The point he is making is a philosophical one about what 'progress' should mean to humanity.
@LordSantiagor
@LordSantiagor 5 лет назад
Our economic progress is such that abject poverty has been cut in half in under 15 years. We can do a better job of understanding and caring for our ecosystem for sure, but don't underestimate the power of economic progress.
@chevytothelevy101
@chevytothelevy101 5 лет назад
I think his philosophy is central toward countering climate change. Moving toward renewables is only part of the answer. Without a cultural shift, things will not change significantly.
@LordSantiagor
@LordSantiagor 5 лет назад
@@chevytothelevy101 I'd trust technology more than cultural or political change to solve climate change.
@DxV04
@DxV04 5 лет назад
@@chevytothelevy101 but his premise is wrong. There is no danger from climate change, since climate has never nor will never be static enough to allow humans to live and expand comfortably. This erroneous thinking has given raise to the horrific and unatural wind and solar farms that also cause plenty of destruction to the environment. People who believe such things as having to fight climate in order to "save" the environment are chasing their own tail.
@funkymaniak
@funkymaniak 5 лет назад
@@chevytothelevy101 I agree that effective climate action requires cultural changes. We over-consume and have to change that. Valuing nature more in its own right would also be beneficial. The world view Kingsnorth presents seems to go further than that though. He seems to put a low value on human productivity. I for one am glad for agriculture, electricity, education and flush toilets, and the productivity gains that come along with them.
@cshipmanf1
@cshipmanf1 5 лет назад
Outstanding presentation. You are setting a great model for others to follow. Also, the focus on carbon only has taken the public discourse away from other serious ecological problems such as, plastic pollution, deforestation, and the injection of aerosols and particulate matter into the atmosphere. Whether the reader of this is an “Alarmist” or a “Denier”, it is becoming evident to all that climate change is real and humans have a role in it. We also can agree that we need to take personal action as well as political action to mitigate the impacts of climate change,. At this point, a carbon tax is too little and too late and will cause great suffering particularly for the most vulnerable in society. Whether it be a hot earth or a cool earth, changes in the jet streams, rainfall patterns, and the winds and ocean currents will create chaotic weather and be very damaging to global agriculture and fisheries. We already see rising food prices, even here in Mexico where so much food is grown. It is good that the IPCC Working Group II is concerned with adaptation, vulnerability, and resilience, "current and projected risks for food and nutrition security, food systems on land, in the ocean, and the food-energy-water-health nexus". We can anticipate much famine and disease ahead. It is time for us to put aside differences, join hands, and work together to create solutions, for ourselves, our families, our communities, and humanity as a whole. Planting a tree or a little vegetable garden are small things that any of us can do, even in an urban environment, and collectively add up to improved sustainability at a community level. At a larger level, “Restoration Agriculture” and “Permaculture”, as well as indoor, vertical farming on an industrial scale.n
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
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@JayPeaTea
@JayPeaTea 5 лет назад
Deep stuff. He's definitely not wrong about the state of the world/humans.
@MartinA-kp8xg
@MartinA-kp8xg 5 лет назад
I grow my own veg greenhouse etc it's very rewarding. I like what he is doing I wish more people would do the same, he's right plant your own trees and you don't want to leave. We have come too far away from nature.
@danielgrace7887
@danielgrace7887 5 лет назад
I'd love to see a follow up from Paul. Sorry for being information greedy!
@celestialteapot309
@celestialteapot309 4 года назад
It seems almost impossible for many middle-class people not to realise that we do not all have cars, central heating, or fly on planes. Perhaps they're too busy attending conferences or travelling to notice?
@mollytherealdeal
@mollytherealdeal 5 лет назад
My opinion on global warming has evolved. I talked to weather scientists from World War 2 who wanted more evidence before they would believe it would be a crisis. James Lovelock, a brilliant chemist who was my role model, said he believed we could muddle through it. Then he changed his mind, and warned about a catastrophe that it was too late to stop. Yes, now I believe global warming is a serious problem. Kingsnorth is right about that. My objection is that he has an environmental puritanism. My ancestors were farmers. I was born in a farm village in the Third World. Farm life is hard. I feel so much gratitude to modern technology, to life in a suburb. He feels disgust with city life. The billions in the Third World aspire to the American Dream, and will burn coal, oil, and gas to get it. If some genius can invent a cheaper power source that is sustainable, they would use that instead. He wishes that the human would want to return to a past he and other activists romanticize. Elon Musk is a problematic individual, but I like his vision of a modern life with a sustainable futuristic green technology. Kingsnorth hates that idea because he wants all of us to embrace "Nature". Nature is sublime, but deadly. A natural life means dying of small pox, getting eaten by bears, a desperate drudgery leading to an early death in the 20s. Aritificiality could be a good thing in some situations. Trump is exploiting partisan hatred, to rely on people not asking questions, to reject facts, to get elected and stay in power. We, the human race, need to find a way to talk to people we disagree with, to make a deal, to solve problems. Climate change is something we can handle through political cooperation and technological innovation. I disagree with Kingsnorth.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
I disagree with you, based on the simple fact that we do not talk to people we disagree with, we kill those people. Have you not studied human history?
@Mo-sy6jx
@Mo-sy6jx 5 лет назад
Big hats off to him I don’t think I can take the step as he has
@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes
@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes 5 лет назад
If you try, then you will know.
@Catajbr
@Catajbr 5 лет назад
Nobody can afford to live like that. He's making lots of money, making videos like this, from the climate change, carbon tax etc billionaire promoters at the UN and where ever else.
@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes
@Gumardee_coins_and_banknotes 5 лет назад
@@Catajbr What are you talking about. You know nothing.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
@@Catajbr how does one make money from a documentary about themselves?
@Catajbr
@Catajbr 5 лет назад
@@obsoleteoptics Read what I wrote. He's getting paid by the UN and the group promoting this site.
@katec8814
@katec8814 5 лет назад
Thanks Paul, some great insights.
@rgolianeh
@rgolianeh 3 года назад
The problem of environment is so big that individuals can't help in any way.
@glenndaniel615
@glenndaniel615 5 лет назад
Sometimes looking at all this information about climate change and environmental destruction can be a real bummer. This film is the most uplifting and joyful perspective on the topic that I have ever seen. Thank you's to The Kingsnorth Family, you're truly an inspiration
@Catajbr
@Catajbr 5 лет назад
Holy crap! lol
@fredk3859
@fredk3859 2 года назад
I think that Paul Kingsnorth is sincere and has some interesting insights, more about culture than environment. But he talks about having enough land to feed himself and his family, which is quite a significant amount. The world doesn't have enough space for over 7 billion people to live the way he does. If it wasn't for developed civilization he would be defending "his land" from endless gangs wanting to take it for themselves ... and he would starve to death if he ever had a year of bad weather. Constantly living on the edge of starvation is our true natural way of being in nature ... not the pretend paradise he's living in.
@DenianArcoleo
@DenianArcoleo 5 лет назад
24.54 -'' it's not a technological problem, it's a cultural and spiritual problem.'' Of course that is so. Veneration for the planet from which we spring is missing from our culture and has been missing for a very very long time.
@Elite7555
@Elite7555 5 лет назад
Really makes this idea that the roman empire perished because of decadence rather plausible. Of course, if a civilization thinks that it were invulnerable and could not be harmed by famine or desease then it will some day suffer famine and desease. Most people don't see that threat because they aren't doctors or farmers. They delegate those problems and think it were just fine.
@rnunezc.4575
@rnunezc.4575 5 лет назад
We don't have any relationship with the earth with this planet as an organism alive which begot us...! Materialistic religion and education spoiled us all...
@davidbeaulieu4815
@davidbeaulieu4815 5 лет назад
I'd say mostly it's a population and capitalism problem.
@lgflanang
@lgflanang 5 лет назад
Humanity may go but the earth as a planet will remain as it is and will regenerate if it is damaged. It has been there and man is just a wink in time and cannot destroy it.
@MrDXRamirez
@MrDXRamirez 5 лет назад
Your comment has no basis in Geological science. The Earth doesn't regenerate. It dies. After reading the poor quality of people's comments on science I selected your's to dispel. The complex of very deep caves, i.e, Canotes in Mexico, are evidence of the remains of a giant crater impact of 65 million years ago. From above, the Canote caves trace an outline of the asteroid's circumference and impact. The very bottom of the caves, miles and miles deep, was the actual surface of the planet. No human can reach that surface without dying from the Bends. Whatever organic of inorganic matter that lived or found on the planet's surface before that crater explosion took place 65 millions years ago was covered over by geological forces leaving crevices that are the caves themselves as remnants of the impact. The only survivors of the impact thousands of miles away were those that lived underground, i.e, mammals. Before that all life on earth was under water and was bacteria. Evolution created fish with fingers 370 million years ago, the Cambrian Explosion occurred 200 million years ago before that. It took 495 million years for dinosaurs, wiped out by the asteroid impact, to come into existence. Just to give a sense of geological time, fish with arms, spine, wrists, rods and fingers had to get out of the water 570 million years ago.
@lgflanang
@lgflanang 5 лет назад
@@MrDXRamirez thank you. The crater you mentioned caused the obliterarion of most living things. 65M years hence, we are here. Cheers.
@MrDXRamirez
@MrDXRamirez 5 лет назад
@@lgflanang thanks to the mammals who lived underground were the only survivors, otherwise, there would not be any mammals at all including us.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
@@lgflanang Tell the earth to regenerate when all our nuclear power facilities catastrophically melt down, bathe the planet in ionizing radiation, and boil away Earth's atmosphere after global human industrial civilization collapses.
@eltonappie7125
@eltonappie7125 5 лет назад
Actually watched this finish 13 hrs into my shift. This was really interesting, it open up your mind and hopefully helps to think differently and do my small part to prevent a ticking time bomb even though it might be too late. Thanks for the documentary.
@claudearmstrong9232
@claudearmstrong9232 5 лет назад
elton appie - until you dig up the hidden agenda to overthrow all nations' governments by those who falsely claim man-caused climate change exists, you will have only their lies and deceptions and false 'science' to guide you. Instead, dig up these global slave-mongers' actual intentions and who they are behind the facade they use in their fake 'news' media. Then you'll have the facts about their claims and understand the Hell they have in waiting for after they deceive you and ruin your rights of life in real world existence. They hate you, and prove it by doing their best to eliminate all opposing, honest research.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
@@claudearmstrong9232 Got any evidence to support your claims? A link to a source for reference?
@RaisingSaintsAcademy
@RaisingSaintsAcademy 5 лет назад
Well over 90% of life went extinct well before humankind had reached the Industrial Age. Much before modern man even ‘evolved’. Climate always is changing, the geological record proves this. We are actually coming out of a mini-ice age, and the world is getting greener, as it once was. We KNOW sea levels were once higher, as ancient ports show that very active ports are now located over a mile inland. DC in the States was swamp, as was much of NY city area. The entire center of the States was under water. Why are these facts either never questioned or even brought up!?!? Now- pollution and trash are things that do need attention, especially in the 3rd world and the countries going through their industrial revolution (like India & China)? But ever since the carbon hysteria agenda came on the scene, those things seem to have taken a backstage.
@dontoews6754
@dontoews6754 5 лет назад
our ancestors did not think about population overgrowth, and now with 7.6 B people we can't just stop this maddness of infinite growth on a finite planet
@stevehain9572
@stevehain9572 5 лет назад
Actually, most western populations are decreasing. As more development occurs elsewhere the world population will stabilise at circa 10 billion (allowing for longevity). We will do just fine so long as we farm intelligently.
@jimjimmy2179
@jimjimmy2179 2 года назад
World doesn't need saving, we do.
@benjebb
@benjebb 4 года назад
Great documentary he really hits the nail on the head it’s society that needs to change if we just lower how much co2 we put out we still won’t stop the impending disaster
@endeavorwebs719
@endeavorwebs719 5 лет назад
Thank you for the video. I think he is right, spirituality is what is missing and more appreciation to the other living creatures. As far as solutions and over population, i think we have gone too far now, we can't stop what is coming, even if all of us wanted to, including our governments, however the truth is less than 5% of people really understand what is upon us... Enjoy until you can.
@circuscyaneus3709
@circuscyaneus3709 Год назад
Muchas gracias a la persona que añadió subtítulos en español. Están muy bien hechos y le permitirán a muchas más personas escuchar el pensamiento del señor Paul Kingsnorth.
@janisnorins5312
@janisnorins5312 5 лет назад
Thank you for the amazing video!
@livingwithclimatechange8195
@livingwithclimatechange8195 5 лет назад
Thanks for this documentary.
@vprodocumentary
@vprodocumentary 5 лет назад
Your welcome:)
@rnunezc.4575
@rnunezc.4575 5 лет назад
Great insights from this man and family. Thank you ..best luck and keep up the spiritual work ...not the material.one..
@allmendoubt4784
@allmendoubt4784 5 лет назад
No car refuse to drive, no holidays, live in an agricultural uni in the developing world these days. I berate myself for using an ac unit, this computer and a fridge. Environmental movement was very strong in the early 90's, I gave up society for a tent in protests and conservation back then, lost it when I had kids (there's the grab, that's how we're enslaved by our societies, I took their jobs and credit); free debt and the tech boom boosted everyone's consumption outrageously thereafter, slowly, unawares we've all been made to succumb. Then again we were worried the message would never get out there widely enough. It has, and therefore there is hope. Hope is all that life means. Note to ourselves.? Just push back, consume as little as you can, partake in the hype as little as possible. It is a war against a weak minded elite, the battle is against distraction. Eat wisely but well, talk to people, and walk everywhere; use respect and love as a weapon and beware of your comforts, even your soap. If you don't buy their shite they won't stay in power. energy is also vital for life there is nothing wrong with the compromise of non fossil fuel resources including nuclear to offset the looming catastrophe of carbon release. Really though there is a central tenet to respecting the world, a taoist philosophy of 2 days walk in any direction, live within that as far as possible and you can have a clear conscience. Now it is time I commit to not using this tech unless it is at work studying and teaching, or revising music. Don't ever give up and never be cynical, like this Oxbridge fool. I suppose I don't really need a fridge, hmmm.
@jellavanberkum8096
@jellavanberkum8096 5 лет назад
Paul, thanks for your insights! Your wisdom is really helpfull. Enjoyed watching this video.
@jasongaylard2547
@jasongaylard2547 5 лет назад
Hundred years. He's optimistic.
@emmelawrence
@emmelawrence 5 лет назад
He has children. That's all the answer you need.
@futurebest4952
@futurebest4952 5 лет назад
Dont do that
@navas1138
@navas1138 3 года назад
Kingsnorth knows full well the coming catastrophe. There is little that can be done, but lower our carbon footprint.
@jamjathangmate6183
@jamjathangmate6183 5 лет назад
Alas, all my fears have been confirmed! Woe to humanity
@greysilverback3924
@greysilverback3924 5 лет назад
Interesting documentary! Thanks for sharing. Justifying ones needs is the hardest part.
@njosborne6152
@njosborne6152 5 лет назад
I have decided to live on a hole in the Pacific Ocean and am learning to completely live off the grid. For electricity I’m still plugged in when in port. I’ll be investing in vertical wind generators that are quieter because they use maglev technology to supplement the solar when I’m out to sea or anchored off the islands. Unfortunately, families are no longer welcome in the Harbors of California. And “PORT’s of Call” is History. So it won’t work for him. I deal with other peoples shit. I pick up a barrel of single use plastics out of the bay every damn day. People refuse to be inconvenienced by reality. Mylar producers are the worst‼️ All politics is local.
@j.h.6633
@j.h.6633 5 лет назад
Nj Osborne Thank you for doing your part to reduce the mess we humans have made. I’m ashamed to be from such a race of consumerist egocentric and apathetic peoples. Smart phones really have completed the dumbing down of humanity. But maybe there’s cause for hope. There’s a minimalist, tiny house movement growing which will lead to consumption of less stuff.
@goddog47
@goddog47 5 лет назад
Overpopulation MUST be taken seriously if we are to avoid biosphere extinction.....Religion has a stranglehold on that one, so it looks like biosphere extinction is the answer.
@dusanveselka3240
@dusanveselka3240 5 лет назад
the analogy between the 'shit = not our problem' and 'ending up deep in it eventually' was a great example of our modern life.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 5 лет назад
3.40 wrong , just every roof space would swing it and wrong its not wild mountains being industrialised. They are already industrialised by poor forestry and farming practices .they are already deserts to what they were.
@shad0wyenigma
@shad0wyenigma 5 лет назад
I hate the defeatest attitude of some of these 'environmentalists'. If you want things to change do something! Don't just stand there saying the systems broken, people should care about the wildlife, etc. Start a business or a charity that helps conservation efforts or fights climate change. You are only as powerless as you think you are.
@stephenverchinski409
@stephenverchinski409 5 лет назад
Help fund Ancient Tree Archives in Michigan.
@uterauch3433
@uterauch3433 4 года назад
Bravo !!! All you activists...stay together now for evermore in passion for nature and for all forms of life around to protect and care. Injustice is not the last thing...living on earth is very complex information is very important and... listening for all the scientists !
@optimystic3321
@optimystic3321 5 лет назад
Brilliant documentary and very timely for me as I've only very recently come to many of the same conclusions.
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 5 лет назад
all bollocks
@optimystic3321
@optimystic3321 5 лет назад
@@Headwind-1 Any bits in particular, or nah?
@Catajbr
@Catajbr 5 лет назад
@@Headwind-1 Next video will be about the bogeyman being your friend who in reality is the taxman coming to collect the carbon taxes. lol
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 5 лет назад
@@Catajbrso deep
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 5 лет назад
@@optimystic3321 bits u like
@abiliolastragb3490
@abiliolastragb3490 3 года назад
its grate thanks, Abilio Lastra from Spain !!!!!
@petetatonks
@petetatonks 5 лет назад
Wonderful Documentary, thank you!
@vprodocumentary
@vprodocumentary 5 лет назад
Your welcome, Peter Tonks!
@JPaz-cr8os
@JPaz-cr8os 5 лет назад
Great documentary. I agree with protecting nature because of its intrinsic value, and not because it's a resource we can claim and harvest to continue living in an energy addicted consumerist society.
@koerttijdens1234
@koerttijdens1234 5 лет назад
Higher CO2 will green the planet.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
Tell that the rainforests burned down for palm oil plantations
@stevehain9572
@stevehain9572 5 лет назад
@@obsoleteoptics You again? The rainforests should be treated better, agreed, but planting crops for food or fuel is way better than letting people starve. Yes, crops are doing better from CO2. Intelligent use of land is very important, that is finite on this planet. One theory is that the Amazon rainforests were planted by humans. The conquistadors killed the natives off with disease leaving the forest unmanaged. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/pristine-untouched-amazonian-rainforest-was-actually-shaped-humans-180962378/&ved=2ahUKEwicqbqxwY7iAhUVqXEKHVqaAroQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2P7_fzAKmPJ87uYUG6Mxu7
@mgammeren
@mgammeren 5 лет назад
Only to a certain level. You learn that on school.
@koerttijdens1234
@koerttijdens1234 5 лет назад
@@obsoleteoptics Palm oil plantations also need CO2 in the air.
@koerttijdens1234
@koerttijdens1234 5 лет назад
@JSavic You noticed that most deserts are in islamic countries ?
@johnnyd7722
@johnnyd7722 5 лет назад
Did anyone mention there are too many people on this planet, our needs are too much for the earth to cope with, it's is too late to do anything about it.
@doug5414
@doug5414 5 лет назад
Everything is nature! Nature is everything!
@linmal2242
@linmal2242 5 лет назад
OK atomic radiation is nature; it is not very conducive to continued animal life.
@AutMouseLabs
@AutMouseLabs 4 года назад
I think the underlying message here is that the present is real and valuable. Do right action now for your own joy and let the future sort itself out. I saw no arrogance in this man's way of living. He is privileged to be sure. But the fact that I have less does not make me any less appreciative of his happiness.
@xchopp
@xchopp 5 лет назад
No. I disagree strongly with his thesis that renewables (wind, solar) are not enough. They are a necessary but not sufficient condition, along with efficiencies, nuclear power, and -- yes -- scaling back on some things. He shows us a terrestrial wind farm but doesn't even mention offshore wind. So _he_ can't save the world? Nice that he can afford to move his family to the Irish countryside -- but for the rest of us, that is not a solution (and it wouldn't be for climate if we all did this: it's very inefficient compared to a machine called a "city"). Fatalism and putting down the scaling up of renewables is hardly what we need right now: we need more of the kind of thing Extinction Rebellion and Greta Thunberg are doing, plus everyone else who is working to promote large-scale conversion of electricity production to clean alternatives. And btw, some technologies can provide practical solutions (not geo-engineering, not free air carbon capture, not fusion: too dangerous, too little, and too late, respectively). Li-ion batteries and super-efficient LEDs come to mind. This guy has moved to despair prematurely.
@treesagreen4191
@treesagreen4191 5 лет назад
xchopp I disagree with you. We need to get to grips with the excesses of our unnecessary way of life. Our energy needs are far beyond what they were a decade ago. We need to reduce it to what it was 50 years ago at least. Because our personal energy use encompasses all of the technology we buy, all the plastic wrapping on the food we buy, all the oil going into food production. He isn't in despair he's being realistic. Speak to anyone in XR and really listen to what Greta Thunberg says and you will find they are probably more desperate than he is, more in grief and mourning than he is.
@marktwain1242
@marktwain1242 5 лет назад
Nuclear power is insanity! Humans have no right to pollute the planet. Your not the only life form on the planet. What right do you have to destroy life to support your way of living?
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
The fact that we refer to the death of mankind as The End Of The World perfectly describes how and why mankind will die.
@LightSearch
@LightSearch 5 лет назад
I think the fact that he has 2 kids prevents him from seeing how quickly all this will happen.
@christinearmington
@christinearmington 5 лет назад
Alfredo Reis Deus Classic
@linmal2242
@linmal2242 5 лет назад
Well, he has reproduced himself and his wife and if everyone did this worldwide eventually the population would stabilise, but can the planet wait that long for the equilibrium. No. The planet will solve it, Gaia will adjust us like any plague that it deals with, whether it is mice or mosquitos, sooner or later.
@emmelawrence
@emmelawrence 5 лет назад
He still thinks we're going to come out the other side of this.
@grimgrimey
@grimgrimey 3 года назад
@@emmelawrenceno he didn't. He has spelled it out many time that we are all fucked and has accepted that.. To just enjoy your life as best as you can as the world turns to shit.
@Plainsman1300
@Plainsman1300 5 лет назад
The windmill is not the answer, massive quanties of energy goes into building them, moving them, and mounting them and then youhave a bird killing, noise creating, unhealthy, temporary generator with a short life, and then needing a carbon rich Disposal.
@mgammeren
@mgammeren 5 лет назад
"bird killing" yes some birds will get killed. But much less as there are birds being killed by high building, agriculture and our cats. Short life? 20+ years..
@user-ej3jy6eg6h
@user-ej3jy6eg6h 5 лет назад
Wind farm production requires rare earth minerals and creates toxic waste. Also, they specifically threaten large birds like eagles and cranes.
@mgammeren
@mgammeren 5 лет назад
@@user-ej3jy6eg6h It is true that there are rare earth materials needed for this. But we need that too for say nuclear, that is also not for a long time in the future if every country goes for that. Also that mining if even worse. Oil drilling already has killed a lot of animals and nature around the world in the history. More birds get killed by cats and farming. Nothing we do is totally safe for the environment but these things and sun and electric cars are the less of all evils for now.
@drawyrral
@drawyrral 5 лет назад
The deer is running around because all the wolves were murdered.
@homunculusrexus
@homunculusrexus 3 года назад
He covers almost everything here beautifully and eloquently. The one thing he leaves out however is overpopulation. Just the sheer fucking numbers of us. He can't talk about this because he'd be branded a hypocrite by reductionists (for obvious reasons) and vilified, and the wider aspects of his arguments would get drowned out. But good on you Paul you're a breath of fresh air. And many thanks to the filmmakers for this excellent little documentary
@snkaron708
@snkaron708 4 года назад
May god bless this man
@EuroUser1
@EuroUser1 3 года назад
And around 5:00 he engages in the long-debunked poor-birds argument. Domestic cats kill many more birds than air turbines. But he doesn't seem to have any issue with domestic cats.
@fireofenergy
@fireofenergy 5 лет назад
Are we really trading in nature for wind and solar?. We will overcome adolescence?
@tomdehen
@tomdehen 5 лет назад
We are in serious population overshoot. We should have stopped at 1 billion people, but passed that number in the 1800s. We are doomed.
@bertdejong3
@bertdejong3 5 лет назад
we tried to stop it by killing each other in 2 world wars,we just failed in the third one.
@mikebonnell3160
@mikebonnell3160 5 лет назад
Sigh. So, once again, somebody thinks that there's just one answer, one solution. And that the solution must be their own. In reality, it's a complex (catastrophic) problem that will require a multi-faceted approach. Do we need to change our consumerist ways? Yes. Do we need to change society from one of consumption and continued growth? Yes. But, this does not mean that we ought not try to make energy production greener and more efficient. Yes, wind turbines make noise but the noise pollution is far less harmful than burning coal to produce electricity. Can we put up enough wind turbines to replace coal? I dunno. PK seems to think it's not possible. But what if we can put a sufficient amount that can greatly reduce coal's use? I dislike his approach and think that it's actually counter productive and irrealistic given the current situation. We may not be able to change things, and it may be too late. But perhaps we should not poo-poo the efforts of those that are trying to make a change.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 5 лет назад
Maybe we shouldn't pooh-pooh the hopium addiction to which everyone is hooked, after all, they are powerless to overcome it.
@mgammeren
@mgammeren 5 лет назад
Thank you! I agree with what you say. His saying about the birds getting killed is indeed sad. However it is really small percentage of how birds get killed. Cats, farming, buildings etc kill far more birds. On sea they already sea a lot of small fish living under those wind farms. There already are "solutions" that we can use but we need to have a mentality shift.
@mikebonnell3160
@mikebonnell3160 5 лет назад
@@obsoleteoptics Here's an another way to look at things. Since none of us can prove with 100% certainty what the future holds, let's not talk/act like everything is set in stone. With this in mind, If a person is more of a Guy McPherson adherent and thinks that we have 5 years left before all life on the planet is extinguished...then that person can choose to live in a way concordant with that belief. If another person believes that perhaps with hard work, we can avert human extinction, then let that person live and work in such a way. It's not a question of poo-pooing additions to optimism. It's a question of accepting that absent any powers of clairvoyance, that varying approaches might be accepted. On a personal note: I'd prefer to end my days productively trying to help/solve than to sit on a lazy chair in glumly dissing people with a different level of optimism.
@mikebonnell3160
@mikebonnell3160 5 лет назад
@@mgammeren Agree fully.
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