THE BATTLE FOR SUPER STOCK/A-stick AT INDY 

All the guys that built the Thunderbolt are no longer with us. Thank you Ray for keeping the old school running and winning.

Got that right!

kevin nolan Yea who wants to watch a Toyota bodied funny car win anything.Im old school.

Lotsa fun!!!

I totally agree with you.

Amen, brother!

The mighty FE big block.

YOU MEAN OLD MAN MY ASS

I can think of a few

Do you know how many times I’ve seen Chevrolet beat Ford?… how about 1 million and there are no Fords in top fuel so you need to remember that.

@@loyalamerican8776 It is still a fact just the same . Also Ford wanted to design a new fuel engine but NRHA said no when Force had the ford deal

@@loyalamerican8776 Chevy is overrated hillbilly junk. I could name a million things they don’t compete with against Ford

Why aren't they?

Because NHRA created a class just for them called SS/AH,(A HEMI). The Hemi A Bodys dominated SS/AA and SS/A till that point.

@@ricklodestein1101 because they did not have a chance to win so NHRA did not want them to get their feelings hurt and made the Hemis only run against each other . These cars are wicked too but it is sad that they cant keep up . I guess NHRA could make the mopars run more weight , they did do that to the Hemis in Prostock back in the day . Nascar also made sure the Hemis were factored out of competition .

@@EvansBrosRacing not true....nascar allowed dodge to run the 426 Hemi in 1964 even though it wasn't a production engine at the time...so ford introduced the 427 Cammer in 1965 and it was banned right along with the 426 Hemi but in 66 dodge was allowed to run the Hemi but Nascar banned the Cammer once again and at this time in Nascar if you weren't driving a Hemi powered Mopar or 427 Tunnel port Ford or Mercury you wasn't winning much of anything....anyways the Hemi was a force to be reckoned with but Ford was developing the Boss 429 to compete and unveil in the 1969 season but initially the Boss 429 and 426 Hemi were banned but eventually they both were approved by Nascar and in 69 the Boss 429 in the Aero Fords and Mercurys pulled the King Richard petty from Mopar and he joined the Ford camp because the Mopar cars wasn't as aero and sleek as the Ford/Mercurys and then Mopar built the Superbird and Daytonas and Nascar banned the Mopar and Fords/Mercurys because they were becoming dangerously fast....Anyways i looked up and researched what i just said in this text and between the 60-1970 seasons manufacturer wins are as follows... Ford and Mercury> Wins 215 Dodge and Plymouth>Wins 195 Chevy and The rest of GM> Wins 54 and most of these came in the very early 60s before Ford unleashed the 427 tunnel ports and Mopar unleashed the 426 Hemi and these two companies battle ferociously until Nascar once again banned the fastest cars Ford and Mopar....So in closing the Hemi remains the engines with the most wins for Mopar in Nascar and one of the winninest engines in drag racing history and of course everyone knows if its Top Fuel its got a Hemi.....Long Live American Muscle!

@@waynebenedict4609 - NHRA had a class ready for the 427 Cammer too above the SS/AH it was just homologation racing engine classes. The record for SS/A is 8.4 now. Fe Big block Ford came out with in the 40’s is kicking bbc ass and outrunning 99% of the field in ss/ah.

You hit the nail on the head fuck the nhra

HE BOUGHT IT IN1980

​@427med I was at US Nationals in 1979 and Ray was racing this car then.

They are now SS/AH

Yes Sir , Hemis have to run heads up against Hemi's . Nascar forced the Hemis out too , crybabies always screw the fastest ones instead of learning more .

@@EvansBrosRacing To be fair to the Frances', NASCAR, was more concerned with keeping bias ply tires on 3500lbs cars under 200 mph than they were "picking on the Hemi".

I think it would be GREAT- as long as NO ONE gets to change any rules for EITHER VEHICLE. What applies to one applies to the other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@jerryhorn3621 You mean, like it is now?

@@EvansBrosRacing - Ford ran Fe427 against the 426 hemi. Ford wasn’t allowed to run the SOHC lucky for dodge they wouldn’t of won a single race if nascar approved it. Too bad. 427fe still beat the hemi so much Richard Petty left for Ford.

Super Stock/AH, which has both stick and automatic plus a $15,000 shootout

They have their own class. Ssah own rules on engine head work ,more money in heads than some guys whole cars

To fast for competition had to make a class all for themselves

@@mikeraddish7213 funny that you mentioned how much money the Hemi guys spend , oh , the ford and chevy guys dont spend much lol , that is hilarious . The fact is , the Hemis out ran them and they had no chance , so NHRA changed their class , so the Ford and GM's had a chance to win . Nascar ruled them out also , what a surprise that was .

They changed their class so they only run against Hemis , the other guys either cried or NHRA felt sorry for them .

The 426 Hemi is the boss!…They consistently beat the thunderbolts So you would be wrong

@@loyalamerican8776 - that 426 hemi couldn’t keep up with the SOHC 427 or the Boss 429

If the 427 Ford is so great, why are there so few at the track???

​@@kx454 Do the stats numbers that were made comparison to Chivvies or Plymiths ,,Olds, Pontiacs etc. , a lot of them went to the grave due to their design was not perfected as could have been. and many owners didn’t spend money in the right places to make them strong to Live. Like the connecting rods were good not great and most died due to that part. Later on most guys figured it our what made them live longer , only after many funerals of them. I had one once that was a rod blown victim. After a while the Guys w fords were sick and tired of the chivvy favored nhra and left it altogether, like I did. nhra is just another club of bigots against others they don’t WANT to compete with for classical ignorance arrogant excuses they fabricated to justify their stupidity. its a chivvy based organization “crowd” favoring outlet. Go look at ANY GM car in it. Over decades of time and today. literally nothing on any GM car is a real GM OEM part, NOTHING!!! So there ya go, an facade of fraudulent chivvy advertisements under the GM banner. the phony gimmicks they played on others. We ALL got sick of their idiotic deceptive-favoritism games. Fords were the First A-stock cars to break the 10’s . Took EVERYONE a decade to do that! Jim Waldo 67 fairlane did it. They redesigned the Mod production class all together due to few guys ran the Cleveland style engine and NONE of the others guy could get Near them.. So of course nhra bastards declassified it all together. Its a fools game they played like a clown show, lying about things, changing the rules at a whim, chronically to disadvantage ppl especially Fords engines. I couldn’t care less if they went completely out of existence because as far as Many of us are concerned they will NOT ever see us or our money or input for their chivvy biased industry again! GUARANTEED! BTW, ppl are what it work, like Bob Glidden did the exact same thing with a Plymouth one year the Ford the very next!~ If he picked up a pontiac then would be no different! Its the Guy whom makes it work, the MFG isn’t so much the big factor.. except the HEMI, everything else is just a block of Iron! In the last 15-20 years they have about all together shriveled up TO nothing. Outside a big nitro race, typically the races bleacher stands are almost always empty except the racers pit crews of parents watching them. I’m surprised they haven gone under yet.

@@ashqelon7267 You have to remember that Chevy quite racing all together in '63...which hurt their development immensely in prime time racing. Fords never had it on the street, and that is a fact. Fully prepped race cars are different, people with $$$ can make anything work, and they obviously did. You claim that there is nothing "Chevy" in a racecar....Same goes for the Fords and Mopars what is your point? A Thunderbolt was a purpose built car...not even a street title. People build Chevy's because they make big power cheap. If Ford was in the same boat...people would be using them. I've got a 394 Olds in a Willys...I know the struggle of building parts (engine uses BBC rods as Olds stuff is very expensive).

@@kx454 Cost and availability in volume was the draw of the interest in GM Products of course, that goes without sayin. I’m not against GM whatsoever really. I own 2 Fabulous Firebird 400HO cars. They are absolutely FAR best line of GM products of all the lines. Every department of it, performance, looks class, style options, Rarity, colors even etc. I can put a GM together and get the HI Pro rare parts all day long, in volume, but not Fords though!

@@kx454 They only made 100 427 T bolts to sell to the public, they're so valuable who wants to beat on a 500 ,000 car.