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The Battle of Apostates is Falsely Recorded! - S.I.N. VS Historical Evidence - Brother Mel - E3 

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Al Fadi and Brother Mel look into several battles from the Apostate Wars. They find that the Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) has battles incorrectly dated when cross-referenced with other, more accurate sources of the time. Again, SIN is proving to be a poor recorder of history and seems to be creating whatever narrative it needs to fit the story it would like to tell and have its followers believe. All of the dating is about four years off. Why is this? What could be the motivation? Watch as Al Fadi and Brother Mel dig into the real history around the Battles of the Apostates.
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@surenthiren8663
@surenthiren8663 Год назад
Thanks brother Al fadi and Mel. A very detailed session with historical evidence.
@felipemillomeda
@felipemillomeda Год назад
Thanks brothers done my support to this work
@ethercruiser1537
@ethercruiser1537 Год назад
Hmmm 🤔 So all the Standard Islamic Narrative dates for these battles seem off by about 4 years according to other reliable data. So what else does this mean besides affecting the possible date of the death of Muhammad?
@vivianwanini9169
@vivianwanini9169 Год назад
I love you with the love of christ Jesus ❤️ .. you are doing good work 🙏
@amemabastet9055
@amemabastet9055 Год назад
Two of my favourites in one place. Nice! The info on hijra was interesting, and I'm grateful for all the info you guys unravel. It is fascinating.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
Which bible do real Christians read now days? There's many different bibles with missing verses
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
@general jg You always say it without any proof, scared to look in the Holy Bible?
@williamgarayua5878
@williamgarayua5878 Год назад
Dear missing "​@@generaljg4373 ": The book of JIHAD is missing JESUS' teachings & deeds, why? Warmongers & generals HATES this: LOVE ONE ANOTHER 💞🌍🕊 🆚️ 🏴‍☠️📗🏴‍☠️
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins Год назад
thanks Amema!
@alexandernorman5337
@alexandernorman5337 Год назад
Muhammad spent 4 miraculous years in the womb? I've never heard that. Maybe that could explain his love for children/Aisha. Or maybe it explains why he thought breastfeeding adults was cool. I dunno, I'm just throwing it out there. Any muslims want to give their thoughts?
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
They have to make a story up as soon as they can think of one
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
Cristian God was in the womb for 9 months and that's a god according to cristianity
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
@general jg His name is God, so spell it with a capital, please, and thanks 😊
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
@@mysteriesmadeknown2874 they are a heretic and an apostate fool. They will never learn because they don't want to.
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
@@generaljg4373 the more you talk the bigger of a fool you make yourself. I wish millions of people could read your comment and have a good laugh. Please tell us are you immature or just don't know anything at all. Maybe both. Ha ha
@mannyhabib2867
@mannyhabib2867 Год назад
Jazakhallah Mel and Al Fadi, Subhanallah this research is awesome, thank you... Alhamdulillah!
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins Год назад
Thanks Manny!
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
The dude who died on a cross is definitely not God
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
@@generaljg4373 Focus you of no faith in the Lord.
@7788rider
@7788rider Год назад
@@generaljg4373 depends on how u define dead. If you mean stop of heartbeat or no more vital sign as sign of death then Jesus yes died for 3days. Because he was resurrected to life after that. So Jesus is no longer died. A person who can lose vital sign for 3days and came back to life is not human. If you mean separation from God as in spiritual death, then Jesus never died. Which is exactly what Quran meant for Jesus did not crucified or died on the cross. A person who never sin, never spiritually died is not human.
@Xbalanque84
@Xbalanque84 Год назад
​@@generaljg4373 The one who had his aorta cut in ironic echo of an oath about false revelations *_was never a prophet._*
@collybever
@collybever Год назад
@@generaljg4373 There's many good reasons to explain why God incarnated in a human life, although it requires a different idea requiring love as a major component, than Islam in its final form would envisage. But if you hold to the SIN, then Mohammed is un-credible as a prophet, in ways a working mind should recognize. First, the most obvious fallen angel in history, not even needing to use much deceit, as the target was weak-minded, then there a so many incredible foolish and wrong things said and done, e.g affirming the sun sets in a muddy pool, saying the filthy Buda'a well is pure water, sexual exploitation, even of a child, him saying the end would come when a young boy he saw grew up, then poisoned in revenge to test if he was a true prophet, but 3 years of praying are no avail, Allah is not listening and confirming he is a prophet. So you should want the SIN sunk, but even then in the Quran, there seems to be a semi-ignorant teacher, who can't do miracles, and somewhat motivated to get loot and sex, using a mix of sources, some very untrustworthy.
@simontemplar3359
@simontemplar3359 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating stuff. Interesting that Sayf ibn Umar comes up. The Shi'a are almost fanatical about painting him as a forger and a liar. Also, someone please help Mel out with the pronunciation of some of these names! It's pronounced "safe"
@themoonster5682
@themoonster5682 Год назад
With all these date discrepancies how can anyone talk about the perfect preservation of anything!!!
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
The bible has many contradictions and hilarious scientific errors
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
@@generaljg4373 Satan is a liar!
@busrifin4142
@busrifin4142 Год назад
​@@generaljg4373 your mind must be demonized by satan.
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Год назад
@@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Don't feed the islamic scum!
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
​@@mysteriesmadeknown2874satan is Christian
@Willoughbiaelmerii
@Willoughbiaelmerii Год назад
What a big work. Thank you.
@Willoughbiaelmerii
@Willoughbiaelmerii Год назад
10:36. Agree. Astronomy should be learned again. Old people can read star, wind, and animal sound. Now, it's gone.
@henktmmr
@henktmmr Год назад
GBU brothers. Hopefully, many deceived people will leave the false cult.
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
Probably not. Brainwashed and pier pressure keeps them in the cult for life. Jesus Christ said l am the Way the Truth and the Life. John 14:6. The truth will set anyone free
@yajujmajuj1739
@yajujmajuj1739 Год назад
The sad thing is that d founders of this cult never thought an era would come when information would be at ppl's fingertips and all their buried lies would be exhumed, hence d on-going tsunami
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Год назад
Sure, islam is one big fat lie. Nothing is right with this pagan cult.
@theoldone485
@theoldone485 Год назад
Never spell thought as "thot". Please check the meaning of the word you used.
@yajujmajuj1739
@yajujmajuj1739 Год назад
@@theoldone485 wow...d ills of texting
@theoldone485
@theoldone485 Год назад
@@yajujmajuj1739 Yes. And please also be kind enough to spell out "the".
@theoldone485
@theoldone485 Год назад
@@yajujmajuj1739 I'm glad you checked.
@Xbalanque84
@Xbalanque84 Год назад
Is there anything better than accidental half-truths in this cult and its history?
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
I would never waste my time reading through all this. My time is valuable and l don't want to waste it on fiction. There's only one God. The God of Israel. He has proven Himself over and over.
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 Год назад
When someone lies & makes something up such as a religion & holy books, it's hard to keep the stories straight. I suppose islam won't be around much longer as people will only take being lied to for so long.
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
One cult still exists from around 325AD. Then more from the 1800's. 3 or 4 large ones. One from the early 1900's. These are men and some women made religions(cults). Not of God. They are warned in the scriptures not to add to or take away from God's word but they do anyway. Scripture says they will be cursed. I ask haven't they read the warning or don't they care. Leading many people astray. It's sad. Judgement will be extra severe for these cult leaders
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
Keep dreaming, Islam is growing while cristianity is in decline
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 Год назад
If one has to tell LIES to convince people of one's beliefs, then where is their TRUTH?
@georgeo785
@georgeo785 Год назад
@@GodIsLove1015 the world is full of these people being deceived by the devil
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 Год назад
@@georgeo785Yes indeed.
@Willoughbiaelmerii
@Willoughbiaelmerii Год назад
The date is increased my curiosity. Why the Jerusalem (and Mediterranean area) until now is so much important for Islam when Maka is way down there?
@leedza
@leedza Год назад
Because the fertile crescent around mesopotamia all the way down to Jordan is where the wealth and civilisation were. Nothing is happening in the Hijaz, not even the prominent trade routes. In maps show the Quresh and land marks transposed to Mecca north of Palestine. The SIN is just that, a convenient story that aligns motives.
@stefanblumhoff2744
@stefanblumhoff2744 Год назад
Can any Native arabic reader and writer help me. Can I use surah 9 ayat 31 to state Muslims must worship allah AND ISA the son of MIRIAM. could this be a valid interpretation
@vicmath1005
@vicmath1005 Год назад
The Abbasid-sponsored Narrative gave all the credit to these wars to a set of fictional heroes belonging to what was essentially an Abbasid-created faith. In reality, the wars on the Western side (against the Romans) in early 620s were by the (Nazarene-origin) Christian Ghassanids, and on the Eastern side (against the Persians) a decade later were by the Nazarenes and the (Nazarene-origin) Christian Lakhmids. These Nazarenes and the Nazarene-origin Christians provided militia services to both the Romans and the Persians. When the faith changed under the Abbasids, the new state-sponsored chroniclers did not want to give any credit to the Nazarenes (who they called Jews), and the Christian Lakhmids and Ghassanids. These chroniclers called all the warriors as Arab, and as belonging to the faith created, ironically, by the Abbasids. The faith of 'Umar was Nazarene. He took his oath on the Torah. He was not a Caliph (Successor).
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 Год назад
Can you give or quote some documentary and historical resources to support your information?
@vicmath1005
@vicmath1005 Год назад
@@GodIsLove1015 Which part above requires evidence? About the faith change? C. 638 CE, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab built the Kaaba (Dome of the Rock) on the Temple Mount. It was modified by others later. There is plenty of evidence, both 1slamic and others, that this Kaaba/Holy Sanctuary was managed by the (Nazarene) priests. The Abbasid Kaabas did not have Nazarene priests.
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 Год назад
@@vicmath1005 OK thank you. Are you saying that the Dome of the Rock was originally Christian?
@vicmath1005
@vicmath1005 Год назад
@@GodIsLove1015 No. I said *Nazarene.* The Nazarene sect was not the same as a Christian sect. The Nazarenes were Jewish in general, but they also believed in a Messiah (Jesus son of Mary). They were *priestly* (unlike the Rabbinic Jews). You need to comb through the Arabic qur-an, and separate the Aramaic root words from the Arabic root words to get a decent picture of the Nazarene belief system. Unfortunately almost all the translators of the qur-an have *incorrectly* translated the word Nazarene to Christian.
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 Год назад
@@vicmath1005 Oh I see - thank you. So is the Dome of the Rock of "Jewish" origin then, because you said the Nazarenes were Jewish? And also the Dome of the Rock has inscriptions written in it which is about Jesus, the Messiah. So this Dome of the Rock structure is not Islamic at all, right?
@Shalom99143
@Shalom99143 Год назад
In Holy Gospel's Mark12; 35-44. Amen. Our Lord n Saviour mentions n reminding the Believers that beware of hypocrite n deception of false doctrine n their practices of false religions n by God's Council the Truth"Holy Bible" we're called against the hypocrisy. For the hypocrite ones by hypocrisy which is the worst career to deceive other Souls n where there's practicing mere external holiness but inside are God's enemy n having satanic's plans in God's holy name. May God bless you CIRA Ministery for witnessing God's Counsel through the Holy Bible's lead by God" Holy Spirit, Our Light's Treasures Salvation's in hearts hereafter in Jesus's. Amen n pls, united in prayer that God's Kingdom be established in Iran too n its People's be saved from satanic's false rule's n false worship n false doctrine on n on to this day more than 44 years hypocrisy' system's that as holocostting People there as Hitler's times in God's Name only misleading n killing God's People's years unfortunately without God's mercy..ops. Thank you for being useful Soul's n giving Joy of God's Redemptive Love n Truth in Jesus's the Humble n Meek in heart's❤🕊️ that which helped me to repent heartly. Shalom n much Love CIRA Ministry of God's Way in Jesus's🌲❤🕊️. Amen❤🎉 cu
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
Cristian God have been defeated by the Roman's I definitely won't worship a God that can't save himself let alone saving others
@Willoughbiaelmerii
@Willoughbiaelmerii Год назад
11!:45. Somebody rich should fund this hard work.
@dtrez3866
@dtrez3866 Год назад
Are you guys checking out joshua little's work? You should.
@Piccodon
@Piccodon Год назад
Lots nice facts, if you are honest. Sharia, deen, fiqh projects power over people and makes other aspects of Islam much less important. Lies, deceit, fabrications does not matter much. Did even Muhammad exist? Does not matter if he is an abstract construct. He is "real" enough for some nutjobs under the spell and power of Sharia to kill and be killed. "...Religion deals with private affairs of life whereas Deen covers all aspects of life, individual as well as collective. In other words Deen is all embracing term which includes religio-socio-politico-economic system...." ".... Islamic Revolutionary Thought, is that the struggle to establish unqualified and unconditional ascendancy of the Holy Qur’an and the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) is obligatory upon all members of the Muslim Ummah [supra-national community]. The goal of this struggle is to achieve the domination of the True way of life (Deen al-Haq), so that the Islamic System of Social Justice - which is the most balanced synthesis of human freedom, fraternity, and equality, and which embodies the Divine attributes of Benevolence, Providence, and Justice - can be established on Allah’s earth.... " Zamir Akhtar Khan www.qurtuba.edu.pk/thedialogue/The%20Dialogue/4_1/05_zamir.pdf
@dennismay8066
@dennismay8066 Год назад
You should read the poetic edda rules over the muslims book
@dennismay8066
@dennismay8066 Год назад
The Jewish cover their head in prayer
@anaalhak4711
@anaalhak4711 Год назад
Even the angel Gabriel could not enter the seventh heaven, Allah allowed only me. The road leads from the seventh heaven to the eighth heaven. And in it is the palace of Almighty Allah, which is seventy-seven thousand larger than any land and sea. And I saw Allah, but I don't know what his character is like because he changes from moment to moment. I saw that he was covered with seventy-seven veils. Even the most intelligent mortal is not destined to see his face, it could happen that out of curiosity or out of evil intentions he imitates him - to do what is inadmissible. I - Muhammad the prophet of God did not think of asking him to take off his veils and to see his face. And I am happy that Allah chose me from so many people as his messenger, that he put his right hand on my shoulder and his left on my chest and made me the closest to him... He taught me Islam - Muslimism, talked with me for a long time like a father with his son, explained the secrets of life to me, taught me how to act if you don't immediately convert to the Muslim faith. As if from parchment to parchment, he transferred twenty-nine thousand words from his head to my head, and I to him as many. Every word is a secret - salvation, but for unbelievers more poisonous than a snake and more deadly than thunder. Then Allah took my hand, moved the little finger of my right hand and the door opened and the horror of hell appeared, where infidels, traitors, corrupt merchants, prostitutes, liars, inbreeds and various sinners are found. ALLAH SHOWED ME MALIK - HELL'S ANGEL. And I saw him hitting the rascals with a sledgehammer, smashing them into dust and dust, putting them back together and smashing them again. Unbelieving people swallow a terrible fire, because at the beginning of the world they refused to believe in Allah. I was happy when I saw the rulers of the killers of the people - they are fried in a big pan, their meat sizzles, the fat melts and boils. They disappear and the crackling people return to the pan. And their bellies inflate and the crocodiles torture them, bite them and put them back together. To be again as they were not. They see merchants - eaters and swindlers, the wolves of heaven tear them apart, and the she-wolves give birth again and the wolves eat them again. There is no end to that game. And I saw people like green grass, stinking flesh in front of them, they die from the stench and are cured by the stench, the stench revives them and kills them again.. And I learned from Malik that they are haters of the female gender, the brother of the murderer, Kain to Kain condemned to eat his own body and to always be hungry. And I saw women with noses and mustaches who made love to women, licked each other like bitches and were each other's husbands. Those lepers are hanging on their breasts, because they chose sick fornication, instead of getting married and giving birth to healthy children. And I saw alcoholics drowning in a sea of poisonous drinks. And I saw the murderer's father, they were the eternal pillars on which hell stands, and Medo from Kalica suffered the most severe torment there, because he slaughtered his father for a long time and enjoyed it and burned his body in the hay. Those who killed sages, writers, honest and brave people endure severe torment. It seemed to me that all the Nine Heavens shook from their wails. In order to save me from seeing such torments, the merciful Allah closed the gates of hell and did not forget to say that in the Ninth Heaven there are words, poets-angels, sages who build the most beautiful and lasting palaces from words. Among them, one is the greatest and closest to God, he did not tell me his name, but I know that God loves him the most. And he told me that he receives wisdom from them, but they also from him. It is not easy to rule with the Nine Heavens and Earth. And I learned that the poets on earth are bound by invisible strings to the poet in the Ninth Heaven. Allah taught me to be just, and once again told me that the spirit of another great poet is hidden in the Ninth Heaven - an angel who will come to earth after a few centuries. and examine what Muhammad did on earth. And will publish. This obliges me not to make mistakes and convert people to the Muslim faith. When I parted with dear Allah, Al Barak appeared again and brought me down to Mecca - next to the door of the holy Kaaba. If you are foolish, if you want to have God against you, you can think that I am not telling the truth. And if you do not obey me and do not follow me, you will be turned into dust and dust, there will be no place for you on earth. You will be more cramped in Persia and Byzantium than in the goat's horn. I am carrying out God's order and am sending this letter and will read it to my believers. If you misinterpret my letter, first you will lose your sight, and then you will go crazy. (Allah can kill you, I don't want you to die). Abu Bekir, the biggest Muslim in Mecca, is a witness that Abu Sofijan Sakr ibi Harb is an opponent of beautiful Islam, also from Mecca, he died on the same day when he said that I invented all this. He was killed by silent lightning while he was going home, and all those who do not recognize God's messenger will follow him. Convert to Islam, be eternally protected by the grace of Allah and God's Messenger. When he finished this letter, Metor asked Muhammad if this was good. Muhammed answers all lies to lies, and Mentor answers, do you know which is the strongest truth. when a lie becomes the truth and when it spreads its wings and goes to the four corners of the world.
@benmoi3390
@benmoi3390 Год назад
well jesus was a miraculous birht while mohammad has his miraculous unbirth lol... it's representative of the very nature of Mohammad
@dennismay8066
@dennismay8066 Год назад
Turkey belongs to Greece 🇬🇷
@dennismay8066
@dennismay8066 Год назад
What is Islam Jewish
@etzelkaplan9677
@etzelkaplan9677 Год назад
3k views geez not worth posting here
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins Год назад
And yet you do. Based on your lack of logic, you must be a Muhammadan.
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ Год назад
First
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
But many who are first will be last, and the last first Matthew 19:30.
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ Год назад
@@mysteriesmadeknown2874 bruh don’t take the verse out of Content😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was just the First comment
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
​@@DefenderOfChrist_ Christian humor bra Proverbs 17:22. 😄
@DefenderOfChrist_
@DefenderOfChrist_ Год назад
@@mysteriesmadeknown2874 sorry I misunderstood you you’re a brother in Christ✝️✝️🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️✝️
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
@Christianity Amen my brother in Christ! 🙏🏻
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
I'm still waiting for someone to show me a verse from the bible that says God is a truine or jesus saying hes God, Cristian belief doesn't even exist in the bible
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
Please do not respond to him. He will only stay ignorant.
@generaljg4373
@generaljg4373 Год назад
The guy above me worship three gods
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 Год назад
@@generaljg4373 😂
@mysteriesmadeknown2874
@mysteriesmadeknown2874 Год назад
@@generaljg4373 That's One God with a capital, focus general Jesus (is) God.
@busrifin4142
@busrifin4142 Год назад
​​@@generaljg4373 your allah the creator of death is the devil get over with it(lifeless a god) first.
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