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The Battle of Beersheba, 31 October 1917 

Tom Burns
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Dedicated to Lt Peter Burns (1896-1981), 8th Light Horse Regiment, 3rd Light Horse Brigade.
Sources and further reading:
Falls, C.; MacMunn, G.; and, Becke, AF, Military operations: Egypt and Palestine, (London 1930).
Gullett, H.S., The Australian Imperial Force in Sinai and Palestine, 1914-1918 (10th edition, 1941) Official Histories - First World War
Volume VII.
The taking of Tel el Saba, or the role the New Zealanders played in the taking of Beersheba. By Steve Butler.
Australian Light Horse Studies Centre.
Australian War Memorial.

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@consciousbeing1188
@consciousbeing1188 2 года назад
My Great-Grandfather, Hugh Cummins, took a bullet to the knee in this offensive. He rode with the 4th Australian Light Horse Brigade. He survived only to have a fragment of that bullet cause him a stroke in 1970 which caused him to pass. Lest we forget 🙏🏻
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 2 года назад
Thank you for your family's service and sorry for your loss.
@robertnorman6443
@robertnorman6443 Год назад
I thank your grandfather for his service and I'm sorry for your loss LEST WE FORGET 🇦🇺
@projectilevomitaka.ther.o.1143
@projectilevomitaka.ther.o.1143 9 месяцев назад
I just learned I had a relative that also rode with the 4th ALHB. trying to nail down his name. As soon as I find that out I’d love to share that with you. There’s a chance our relatives might have known each other? 🤔? Either way it’s still captivating history.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 8 месяцев назад
Did Hugh ride with the 4th or the 12th Light Horse Regiment? Do you know which Squadron? Sad to read he died cos of his war wounds. Do you have a copy of his AIF service record? It is available for free to download by searching: Australian 'National Archives name search' then type in his name, regimental number if known, then select which war he fought in. All service files for any Hugh Cummins who served in WWQ AIF will then come up. With his regimental number added, this will reduce the number which will be offered to your search request.
@dominic6634
@dominic6634 2 месяца назад
Very cool. Alot respect one of my uncles was an early fighter pilot in ww1 we have the pictures but not much else
@someoldcoot
@someoldcoot 3 года назад
Nice presentation of the course of the battle. My grandfather served in the 1st Light Horse Regiment. He survived.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
Thank you. And thank you for your family's service.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 8 месяцев назад
The 1st Light Horse Regt. The Royal NSW Lancers. Now titled the 1st/15th Royal NSW Lancers. My mate served with the RNSWL. Glad to read your Grandfather got to return home to his family. 1@@tomburns5231
@jimspink2922
@jimspink2922 10 месяцев назад
Served in the 1970s with 10th Light Horse who were part of the Battle of Beersheba and had the privilage of meeting several veterans from that era. Each year we have a dinner as close as possible to the 31st of October with serving members.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 9 месяцев назад
The 10th Light Horse Regiment, whose men slaughtered along side the 8th Light Horse at the Battle of the Nek August 1915. It is appalling to read about that ill conceived and ill fated charge. I served with the descendant unit of the 8th LH - 8/13 VMR in the 1980s.
@hacksawhackett
@hacksawhackett Год назад
The photo on the bottom right from 0:11 to 0:56 of Australians with Bedouins at a well in Khelasa contains an image of my great grandfather. Sapper Arthur Nilsen. Along with his mates. From left to right: Cpl McGiugan DCM, Sapper Arthur Nilsen, Cpl Samuel Dawson MM, and Cpl Richard Cyril Nicholson. At Makhadet Hajla on the night of 21-22 March 1918, They were responsible for constructing a pontoon bridge across the Jordan River. Cpl Samuel Dawson swam across the fast flowing river with a rope to help secure a line under enemy fire. He was later joined by my great grandfather, Spr. Arthur Nilsen, who also swam across, and the rest of D troop in constructing the bridge while still coming under heavy enemy fire. It turned out to the be the first crossing of the Jordan River made by allied forces. And the first bridgehead for forces conducting operations on the east bank of the Jordan River on their way to Amman. Corporal Samuel Dawson received the Military Medal for his actions that night. It’s the only known photo of my great grandfather during WW1. (He also served in WW2) So imagine my shock and pride when I saw it. Thank you so much Tom for keeping his and his mates legacy alive. It means so much to me to see him immortalized in this video. Lest we forget.
@jaye1967
@jaye1967 9 месяцев назад
I was watching a clip from a movie about this battle and noticed the link to this video. It's so nice to get all the information about the battle that movies can gloss over.
@JR-my6bc
@JR-my6bc 5 лет назад
Thank you. My great Uncle was among those killed from the 4th light horse.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 5 лет назад
Sorry for your loss and thank you for your family's service.
@BLUTFAHNE
@BLUTFAHNE 3 года назад
God bless that man, what was his name?
@TheOlesarge
@TheOlesarge 3 года назад
I honor your Great Uncle' sacrifice. He did not grow old, but his memory spans the ages.
@nancyhobson9710
@nancyhobson9710 4 года назад
Thank you for that explanation of events a nd battles of long ago. My grandfather used to talk of Beersheba. From Australia.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
Thank you. Any stories you'd like to share that you remember? I guess many of those who witnessed these events have left us now.
@jonbeecham1626
@jonbeecham1626 2 года назад
Thank you for your grandfather's sacrifice. Lest we forget
@dougvanderhoop8012
@dougvanderhoop8012 6 лет назад
And this morning they were remembered. Thank you for a project very well done.
@dmenace9827
@dmenace9827 6 лет назад
Lest we forget indeed, but don't forget the horses either. Walers were the best mount a horse soldier could ask for.
@sqnhunter
@sqnhunter 3 года назад
And they were all destroyed rather than bring them back to Auss or give them to the Arabs to abuse. All these men had to shoot their own horses, sadly. :(
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
@@sqnhunterI believe many were transferred to Indian and other cavalry regiments.
@meatpiman224
@meatpiman224 3 года назад
My paternal grandfather participated in the charge at Beersheba, I cannot appreciate what they experienced, I struggle to express my appreciation/admiration of the brave souls who prosecuted this action, may they be always remembered for their courage and always celebrated. Lest we forget. RIP Grand Dad.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
Thank you for your family's service.
@selotmani1
@selotmani1 10 месяцев назад
he was just a tourist: only indians and asians fighted!
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 9 месяцев назад
You are justifiable proud of your Grandfather's part in the charge. Was he 4th Light Horse or 12th Light Horse? In the 1980s and 90s, I had the honour to served as an Armored Corps soldier with the descendant regiment of the 4th Light Horse, the 4th/19th Prince of Wales's Light Horse Regiment (based in Melbourne). We commemorated the Charge every October.
@selotmani1
@selotmani1 9 месяцев назад
a good machine gun, and the light horse would become the light ghosts!@@keithad6485
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
@@selotmani1 A signficant contribution to the defeat of the Turkish empire came from Australian mounted troops, as well as significant numbers of New Zealand and British mounted troops.
@nathanroberts355
@nathanroberts355 3 года назад
My great grandfather Thomas joesph canny was a Australian light horseman in Palestine at beersheba on famous charge of beersheba 31st October 1917
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 2 года назад
Thank you for your family's service.
@theymakeitlookeasy
@theymakeitlookeasy 2 года назад
Brilliant summary, so often it's hard to understand how these battles unfold.
@BombshellBibleProphecies
@BombshellBibleProphecies 2 года назад
The Jews should remember the courage of the Australian and New Zealander Light Horsemen's charge braving machine guns fire from the Turkish and German trenches of Beersheba. Their role at this turning point Battle of Beersheba in liberating Palestine in 1917 from Turkish's control in WW1 made paved the way for General Allenby successful reconquest of Jerusalem since the First Crusade, without a shot fired and the independence of the Modern State of Israel in 1948 is a forgotten chapter by the world at large.
@gadibar7759
@gadibar7759 2 года назад
As a jew living in israel I agree that we are too concentrated on our achievements, not knowing and appreciating the lives lost for liberating this area from a foreign empire.
@BombshellBibleProphecies
@BombshellBibleProphecies 2 года назад
@@gadibar7759 HI Mr, Gadi, you're most ''Baruch Habba!'' Shalom to you who are living again on ''The Promised Land'' promised by Hashem your Elohim and Adonai.
@well-blazeredman6187
@well-blazeredman6187 2 года назад
Good, clear explanation. I was surprised to see the very great size of the Commonwealth force.
@canuckveteraneducator7670
@canuckveteraneducator7670 2 года назад
Well done. Thank you. Peace my brothers.
@danieljackson654
@danieljackson654 2 месяца назад
How wonderful is this. Bravo
@nathanroberts355
@nathanroberts355 9 месяцев назад
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman in 9th light horse regiment at battle of Beersheba in first world war and he got got shot at lone pine at Gallipoli and shot in the arm at Beersheba in the first world war
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 9 месяцев назад
Tom, did you ever get photos of the cemetery at Beersheba?, I am looking for a photo of the grave and headstone of RSM WO1 Alex Wilson, 4th Light Horse, KIA during the Charge.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 8 месяцев назад
Sorry, I am yet to visit Beersheba myself. I hope to one day.
@amielnaiman4626
@amielnaiman4626 2 года назад
One of the most successful offensive cavalry charges of the 20th century was not conducted by cavalry at all, but rather by mounted infantry (from Wiki). As the movie shows, the defenders held their fire, waiting for the infantry to dismount.
@Winter-gs9ko
@Winter-gs9ko 2 года назад
No Cav mate
@amielnaiman4626
@amielnaiman4626 2 года назад
@@Winter-gs9ko You're right. They charged and fought from horseback as though they were cavalry, but they weren't actually cavalry. And that helped fool the defenders, who expected them to dismount and fight like infantry on the ground - but they never did.
@Winter-gs9ko
@Winter-gs9ko 2 года назад
The australian light horse is in fact cavalry from inception. Never mounted infantry we wont have it
@Winter-gs9ko
@Winter-gs9ko 2 года назад
Our weapons lance And sword Not rifle
@Winter-gs9ko
@Winter-gs9ko 2 года назад
I would never abandone my horse and charge forth we go together
@TheWareek
@TheWareek 2 года назад
I am Australian and proud of it, but I also think that if you were related to one of those 4400 Turks you should also be proud.
@ronstreet6706
@ronstreet6706 Год назад
This battle took place 50 years to the day that I was born. God bless the ANZACS and the Light Horsemen!
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 9 месяцев назад
Does anyone have a photo of the grave and headstone of RSM WO1 Alex Wilson at Beer sheva war cemetery? He was Killed in Action as his horse cleared the trenches on the outskirts of Beersheba during the Charge. As Alex's horse leaped the trenches on the outskirts of Beersheba, a Turkish soldier apparently spun around and shot him from behind. Later he was found still astride his horse, dead from gunshot. I would love to see a photo of his grave with some flowers placed near the head stone. Two days before the Charge, he must have had a premonition because his good mate Sgt French from Maffra Victoria relayed after the war that Alex had told him during the approach to Beersheba - 'I think there is a bullet for me at Beersheba'. Alex was RSM 4th Light Horse Regiment and rode beside the CO, Lt Col Murray Bourchier in front of the lead Squadron. I'm in touch with Alex's relatives (Alex's nephew and his family) and would love to give them a photo of Alex's grave. Alex was killed in action age 24. He was from Drouin Victoria and enlisted the same month as war was declared - August 1914. Murray Bourchier was a lieutenant in that month and was Alex's troop leader in 1914. I had the honour to serve with the descendant Regiment of the 4th Light Horse - 4/19th Prince of Wales's Light Horse Regiment RAAC in the 1980s and 90s.
@jamessylvestri347
@jamessylvestri347 3 года назад
I absolutely respect that charge I got real emotional horses really are one of Manson best friends go aussies
@harrywoodrow688
@harrywoodrow688 3 года назад
My great grandfather fought in Beersheba and Gallipoli survived both and he saw some terrible things yet the hardest thing he said he had to do was shoot his horse because they couldn’t bring them back from Australia
@TheWareek
@TheWareek 2 года назад
The same thing happened in Europe they would not let there horses back into England.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 2 года назад
Thank you for your family's service. It's sad to hear the fate of the horses.
@stephenfreestone1746
@stephenfreestone1746 2 года назад
The british failed at taking Beersheba, and the Aussie horse's where a lot tougher breed of horse called whalers they where used of hot dry conditions .
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
@@stephenfreestone1746 The British could hardly fail at taking Beersheba, since their forces were commanded by an Australian corps commander (Lt Gen Sir Harry Chauvel) and an Australian and a New Zealand Division commanders.
@halftime3200
@halftime3200 9 месяцев назад
@@mikem9001 ,the poms had a go at taking Beersheba ,but failed ,nothing to do with the Aussies, after the poms failed the Aussies showed them how to do it ,after that the Aussies moved on to Jerusalem and took that as well.
@jebsails2837
@jebsails2837 9 месяцев назад
From across the pond. Very well presented. Here we don't learn or overlook the non European campaigns. I do know there were campaigns in the Mediterranean, African Colonies and probably elsewhere. Will you be addressing these other engagements. Narragansett Bay
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
This Palestinian campaign was very successful for France and the British empire. They sliced off key Turkish territories. The British took Iraq and its oil wells. They also took Palestine and built a terminal at Haifa - the oil was piped from Iraq to Haifa and exported. The French took Lebanon-Syria and also built a terminal, at Tripoli. They also piped the British oil from Iraq and exported it.
@Zogerpogger
@Zogerpogger 2 года назад
Commenting for Algorithm because this video deserves more views
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 2 года назад
Thanks :)
@Zogerpogger
@Zogerpogger 2 года назад
@@tomburns5231 Sure thing! I thought you presented very well and I understood the battle of Beersheba a lot better after watching. I also really appreciated the moment of remembrance at the end. Carry on!
@AlexClark-Mephisto
@AlexClark-Mephisto 2 года назад
What program do you use for animation?
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 2 года назад
Powerpoint
@elroo7313
@elroo7313 3 года назад
Im driving down to Beersheva next week and staying for 3 nights. I'ii be driving and walking the old battlefield sites and taking loads of pictures.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
How wonderful! Would love to see some modern-day photos of some battle areas, e.g. Tel es Saba.
@peterjames9610
@peterjames9610 2 года назад
Lucky you, very envious.
@yahligowans9853
@yahligowans9853 2 года назад
@@tomburns5231 hey mate, I live in Be'er Sheva. I can get some photos sorted if you'd like. Just reply to my comment if you'd like me to do that
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 2 года назад
@@yahligowans9853 Sorry for my late reply. If you see this, please do upload some photos if you have any! It would be interesting to see the modern are of Tel es Saba and, looking from the, the route of the charge.
@ILTOURS
@ILTOURS 6 лет назад
THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL
@ILTOURS
@ILTOURS 3 года назад
@Johnny Sinns Happy new year I very moved to her from you as you the movie ..i qas thwr on 100 years on 31.10.2017 Wellcom to israel Keep sefe iL
@ILTOURS
@ILTOURS 3 года назад
@Johnny Sinns thank GOD
@wael5945
@wael5945 3 года назад
Where was Israel during war?
@ILTOURS
@ILTOURS 3 года назад
@@wael5945 It was then on Otoman emper The stet of israel was found in 1948
@gadibar7759
@gadibar7759 2 года назад
@@wael5945 waiting to be reestablished 🙃✌
@shaneharrison9388
@shaneharrison9388 3 года назад
Lest we forget
@seanyuke3249
@seanyuke3249 9 месяцев назад
👍
@philipvernejules9926
@philipvernejules9926 4 года назад
.......good video but the audio level is a pain
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
Sorry about that. Should it be louder next time?
@omfgimgettingpissed
@omfgimgettingpissed 3 года назад
Was fine for me.
@williampoppell5189
@williampoppell5189 2 года назад
@@tomburns5231 YES!
@peterjames9610
@peterjames9610 2 года назад
Perfect for me?
@brianhotaling5849
@brianhotaling5849 7 месяцев назад
What about the two Turkish cav regiments in the NE???
@davecannabis
@davecannabis 8 месяцев назад
my grandfather rode in the charge he said it was pretty scary jumping over trenches bristling with bayonets, you didnt mention one very critical detail, that the German officers in the trenches saw the umu feather plumes and knew they were mounted infantry, and would stop some distance away and then fight on foot, so they had all the gun sights set at 800 yards, and once the ANZACs had pased that point the Turks and Germans were shooting over their heads good video btw
@thelastaustralian7583
@thelastaustralian7583 4 года назад
The Digger knew what to do.... See he was true Blue..... Running through lead and shot ....For his mates who had already dropped ....Blood and guts never do you mind ,.....Under their Flag, One unified kind, .........Now memories fading fast , ......All we have now ,a generation of self centred Ass, The digger knew what to do unity under their Flag see they were true Blue,......Now the Dunny needs flushen, its sad to say .........Due to the fact the vast majority have turned Yellow or have become pommy Cattle talken shit all Day ......
@LesterMoore
@LesterMoore 10 месяцев назад
How much blood has soaked into the Holy Land of Milk and Honey ... only a wise man may truly say. Too much by far I say.😢
@ajvanmarle
@ajvanmarle 3 года назад
Sadly, many of the survivors died later, of dysentery and the Spanish flu. They deserved better.
@jamessylvestri347
@jamessylvestri347 3 года назад
Excellent video where was us
@flowerpower8722
@flowerpower8722 3 года назад
Put it in the time perspective. This was 100 years ago. The war like most wars was European British and north African and Russian, and Turkey was part of the Ottoman empire. Anzacs were in the war along with Canadians, Indians, South Africans because we were all tied to the British. The US joined eventually due to politics. The players in this particular battle were who they are because that's where they were all posted.
@ingridclare7411
@ingridclare7411 2 года назад
The US were not in Palestine in ww1
@doncooper6801
@doncooper6801 Год назад
In Mexico chasing bandits.
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
@@flowerpower8722 ANZACs were in the war because they wanted to be. They joined with the rest of the British Empire in opposing the anti-democratic powers of central Europe.
@huskor11
@huskor11 10 месяцев назад
Have you attacked to 4000 enemy with 50 000 soldiers while having tech advantage. What a bravery!
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
The 4000 Turks and Germans were well supplied with machine guns and artillery. It wasn't nearly as one-sided as it might seem, especially as most of the "50,000" couldn't get into the battle. The Turks almost pulled off a tactical victory by blowing up the water wells before withdrawing - that would have stopped the allied advance for a considerable period of time. But the charge of the Light Horse forestalled that.
@terryjohnson3161
@terryjohnson3161 2 года назад
Hey mate didn't the Australian's light horse fight that battle mate the Australian's won that battle
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
Australians and New Zealanders and Brits and a number of others.
@honor9lite1337
@honor9lite1337 9 месяцев назад
. Ice😊
@thomascoleman9546
@thomascoleman9546 3 года назад
sound to low
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
Sorry about that. I will try to make it louder next time.
@ttvwhitewolfgaming2326
@ttvwhitewolfgaming2326 2 года назад
Love the Turkish soldiers fought like warriors, bloody legends
@Ozgur72
@Ozgur72 10 месяцев назад
Very good representation. Though I have hard time understanding why a 1/10 victory with overwhelming artillery superiority is singled out as unseen valor. It must be political rhetoric rather than military.
@savaskartal4044
@savaskartal4044 10 месяцев назад
1 to 10, Turkish forces did their best.
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
The 4000 Turks and Germans were well supplied with machine guns and artillery. It wasn't nearly as one-sided as it might seem, especially as most of the "50,000" couldn't get into the battle. The Turks almost pulled off a tactical victory by blowing up the water wells before withdrawing - that would have stopped the allied advance for a considerable period of time. But the charge of the Light Horse forestalled that, hence why it is so celebrated.
@francisebbecke2727
@francisebbecke2727 2 месяца назад
The Turks apparently did better at Gallipoli than in Palestine. Soldiers generally do fight better defending their own country.
@JazzfireflyNZ
@JazzfireflyNZ 3 года назад
As always the anzacs get the worst job! Steep hills with machine guns on top.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 3 года назад
Indeed! Not easy!
@sqnhunter
@sqnhunter 3 года назад
The feeling of Gallipoli all over again for some of them. :(
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
In fairness, that was the experience of every soldier in WWI. Casualties in the Middle East campaigns were generally much lower than on the Western and Eastern fronts Once the British empire deployed large amounts of quality mounted forces, the war became essentially one of manoeuvre.
@AlisaStreet
@AlisaStreet 3 года назад
Oh the poor Palestinians .... Long live Palestine, from the Mountains to the Sea, fr. Australia
@lmrandlette
@lmrandlette 3 года назад
My English grandfather and great uncles died in this pointless war of greed to destroy the Ottoman Empire and exploit their resources. One hundred years later, the elite special interests continue to siphon off oil while millions suffer because of the artificial countries “created” by the conquering British and French. Shame on shame...
@samkohen4589
@samkohen4589 2 года назад
You mean Israel
@ingridclare7411
@ingridclare7411 2 года назад
@@lmrandlette Hmmm, the Ottomans should not have been in Palestine/ israel. Not their territory either. The Ottomans also declared war on England, along with Germany. Ottomans backed the losing side. But they thought the Germans would win. Turks did it again to a lessor extent in ww2, backing Adolf, convinced he'd bring Germany to victory this time. Obviously you're unaware of the constant plundering of other countries the Ottomans forced to the yolk, including shocking slavery numbers of Armenian Christians. Those left from the 1.5 million they genocided that is. The middle east was not excluded. As per usual, ignorance thinks its only Europe etc. Its universal human behaviour since time immemorial, on every world continent.
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 9 месяцев назад
@@lmrandlette It was hardly a "pointless war". The anti-democratic forces in central Europe (particularly Germany) meant that a showdown was coming, one way or another.
@hornetpilot1817
@hornetpilot1817 Месяц назад
​@@lmrandletteit's pretty much the intersection of 3 continents...no wonder the region's been a hot bed for millennia. It's of geopolitical significance more than you think.
@NSWLancer
@NSWLancer 5 лет назад
Sad you are not a trained soldier mate. You get your corps, divisions and battalions/regiments a tad confused.
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 5 лет назад
Sorry for any mistakes. Could you please let me know of the mistakes so I can correct them?
@davidbolton4930
@davidbolton4930 4 года назад
@@tomburns5231 Auckland battalion
@thelastaustralian7583
@thelastaustralian7583 4 года назад
NSWLancer Sad you were not there explaining how to haveashit
@ianmcleod3631
@ianmcleod3631 4 года назад
@@thelastaustralian7583 lol
@thelastaustralian7583
@thelastaustralian7583 4 года назад
Roy Millane Mine were 14th Bat, 'Jackas Mob', your Mob Cobber ? Both Pop and another odd 150.000 Australian blokes were dying exactly 100 years ago after Fighting for others in WW1 who had been invaded or threatened to be, Four years of Hell freeing them . Then again in WW2.
@patpearce8221
@patpearce8221 4 года назад
Fuck this is boring. Can you use total war simulations to remake this? Is there a WW1 mod?
@cyriljohnson-peter2633
@cyriljohnson-peter2633 3 года назад
Have some respect u imbecile...
@tacitdionysus3220
@tacitdionysus3220 2 года назад
Must be a millennial.
@peterjames9610
@peterjames9610 2 года назад
Twit
@b4ked164
@b4ked164 2 года назад
Bet you don't read books unless they have pictures in them too then.
@westaussie965
@westaussie965 Год назад
Don’t hold back….yes, this is a video where you have to listen and use your brain😂
@davecannabis
@davecannabis 8 месяцев назад
why are you speaking so quiet?
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