it was dumb at parts, like when he was banished and his life became a video game, but it was quite original and a very memorable movie. it stuck with me forever and i went to that beach a few years after, was very cool to be there. i don't like this alternate ending. i really liked the actual ending, in the internet cafe.
I just watched this the other day. I think a big problem, at least with me, is that really aren't any likable characters. Especially the main "protagonist", Richard. He's kind of a douche.
Its laughable that decaprio received a razzie for this movie while the story might be a little out there, their is a lot of solid acting and leo did a damn good job....
Whoever wrote that ending knows Thailand and the young free spirited people it can draw in and reduce to nothing. Unless you have lived it you wouldn't know. As he said and i can relate. Been there, done that, reduced it all to nothing, only a story that i tell. Hit the nail on the head with that one.
Just watched this movie for the first time in years. Enjoyed the first half, especially the scenery. But holy hell, does it go off the rails during the 2nd.
He called himself a "Survivor" in this clip, yeah right! Living on a tropical paradise is not difficult at all. There is food and drinkable water all around. He himself would likely not have survived on his own there. When he got kicked out, he quickly went insane and got himself in trouble soon after. He had zero survival skills. He only got lucky with that little shark. He can't build a proper shelter and can barely hunt/gather food. He's also a terrible backstabbing and selfish person if you think about it. Not a likable character in my book.
Also too much of anything gets old fast. Even a tropical paradise gets old eventually. I used to smoke weed daily when I had shingles. I used it for the extreme pain shingles causes. I got the worst kind with postherpetic neuralgia, which causes permanent damage and intense pain to never goes away. I work from home so I was privileged to be able to use it multiple times a day, daily. But I was prescribed the vaccine and it almost completely rid me of the pain. However, I keep smoking weed daily multiple times a day out of habbit. I loved how it made me feel and the whole process was enjoyable. Though, since I was no longer doing it for pain, it became too trivial. It became my new normal. It lost it's excitement and realized I was just going through the motions without much emotion. My tolerance got so strong that I would barely get a mild high even after smoking an entire joint of premium bud, by my self. So I gave myself a choice, either increase my dose to smoking multiple blunts daily, which would become very expensive. Or take a t-break and cut back altogether. I decided to abstain for 2 months. That first bowl after that 2 months break was like smoking for the 1st time all over again. It felt like total euphoria unlike any high I've had in years. There after, I promised myself to only smoke on special occasions, no more than 4 times per month total. Not only would I get super high everytime, but I also only needed 3-5 hits total to get there. I saved so much money that way and it felt special again, gave me something to look forward to. Moral of the story. Pace yourself and find different ways of enjoying life. Because even weed and a tropical paradise can get old fast.
@@11cylynt11 If I remember correctly, Richard was on his own in the jungle for months after Sal caste him out. If that doesn't show survival ability, I don't know what does.
People give this movie a lot of shit but i still think for what its worth its pretty fantastic; it accurately portrays the feelings of travelling and exploring rather than being a tourist, something a lot of people cant seem to tell the difference between.
+CyanideShock Nicely written. A tourist is somebody who knows the terrain, has information, and has an idea of what to expect. In contrast, a traveller or explorer, is naïve, like somebody who has never played poker before, who sits down at a table to play a game where everybody else knows each other, as "the new guy".
the moral of this story is even hippy communes have a ruling class and as long as nobody around you is suffering, you can have paradise. The second real life gets bloody, westerners view of paradise is shattered.
The cinematography in The Beach is truly second to none. As far as the idealism displayed in the film, you see where that got them. There are many messages in The Beach relating to backpacker culture, most of them on display here, rightly, negative. If you do wind up on the road someday, you'll see what I mean.
You should travel if possible. Hope you get the chance sooner rather than later. Gotta do it while you’re young, otherwise you will lose your sense of patience and adventure and then just think somewhere like London or Paris is the most amazing place on earth. Good luck.
I like the message that paradise isn't a place or where you go, it's about capturing a moment in time when you were a part of something and felt amazing.. which lasts forever.
Both the book and the movie are very dark. The alternate dark ending fits well with what happened previously in the movie. Richard would likely have some serious post traumatic stress for the rest of his life due to what he experienced at The Beach Colony.
"The Big Chunky Charlie is eating up the whole fucking world" -Daffy Who knew how spot on his character actually was in real life? My question is, what happened to Bugz? I mean Sal was his girlfriend, regardless if she just used him for his carpenter skills and sex. He even held Richard and urged her to kill him. Then all of a sudden he's gone or that he left with everyone else? I understand that the beach and the community meant more to Sal than Bugz did or any man or woman for that matter, just curious as to what happened to that character is all. I don't get the hate this film recieves? It's got a wonderful story, beautiful landscapes, fantastic soundtrack that actually goes along side the film, excellent cast, and the story moves along from start to finish. No filler or dull scenes. It's personally in my Top 5 greatest films of all time! And I'm not even a "beach going" person. I love the mountains! Beaches are beautiful and all, but the ocean is an extremely frightening place and im constantly checking everything that bumps into me. So much so, that I can't even enjoy swimming, which defeats the entire purpose.
Best line, “not just the usual, Oh thats nice…its a real paradise ok!!!” Talking about something real here! Total Classic film to those that graduated in the early 2000’s. Almost went looking for that forbidden place!
The dialogue is inspirational, daffy and leo are the best ones, " am not talking about the usual traveling wanks, ideals eh", richard "trust me it's it's paradise, you hope and you dream but you never believe that something is going to happen for you "
Daffy is so dynamic. Lovable yet terrifying. The way him and Richard bond through the movie is so strange. And my favorite quote from daffy. “No offense.. but you’re fucked in the head.. right?” That one gets me every time
It makes sense that the producers did not use this ending. This island is suppose to be isolated and untouched from the outside world. A small tour ship going around the island itself would invalidate the entire storyline/point of this movie. I really like this film and it's still in my favs list but both endings are poorly executed. The final cut (Internet cafe) ending being the worse ending of the two. Danny Boyle should have stick to the source material. This alternative ending would have been more suitable for use if Richard and company made their way to the mainland before parting ways from there.
good point, i didn't think about that. a ferry just a few miles out would hardly make it a secret island. the internet cafe ending was great i thought. back to reality, cleaned up, a normal person now. awesome music, the picture giving him a great memory of a moment in time, but he's moving on from it, it's in the past.
The internet ending is brilliant and real life! I ended up back in an Internet cafe after my twelve month adventure twenty years ago checking emails on people I had met in Australia. It’s an excellent ending.
I love the scenes in the beginning when they are travelling around. Reminds me of when I was a young buck travelling around by myself.. before smartphones.. If you got lost, you just had to find your way.
This is absolutely NOTHING compared to the brutal ending of the book. I liked the movie until I read the book - now it's a pretty, intriguing hack job. Still, this ending is a BIG improvement over the corny romantic ending they used.
johootly, hi! Here it Comes: The People are threatened by the drug guys after these killed the newcomers. The drug farmer show them the card Richard drew for the now killed travellers and tell them they will kill them all if more travellers arrive on the Island. To make a point they show them the corpses of the murdered victims - naked and full of bullet holes. They leave the corpses in the camp and return to the jungle. That happens at the climax of an anneversary Party. People are drunk by self produced alcohol and extremely high by drugs. Hysterically they "attack" the dead Newcomers making them responsible for the Situation. They dismember the Bodys and cut them to pieces in an act of madness. When they see the Card they recognice that Richard drew it. (He wrote a few sentences for the Americans under the map and signed the text with his Name. In the book Sal wasn`t informed that Richard knew the victims and told them about the Island.) The People form a mob and try to kill Richard with their knives. He gets wounded by countless cuts. In the last moment Etienne, Francois and his other two best friends save him. They attack the others with their fishing spears and strike Sal and Bugs down. Then they flee with Richard with the float (is it called a float?) from the Americans. Only the four escape the Island. Etienne and Francois return to France. Richard and the two other Guys travel back to England. He stays in contact with the two Englishmen and they remain friends. But Francois and Etienne he never saw again. In the book Francois didn`t betray Etienne and there was no sexual relationship between Richard and her. Although they were attrackted to another. I have read that Danny Boyle was forced by the Studio (the Forces behind the curtain) to rewrite the script. The Producers wanted a love Story for Leonardo because of the success of Titanic. There are a lot of differences between the plot of the novel and the movie. Another example: Sal doesn`t force Richard to have sex with her. She never travels with him to buy supplies. Obviously the Producers of the movie wanted to "sex up" the Story. But in the end the movie follows the book in most parts and Mr. Boyle tried to handle the Story with respect. Please forgive me my bad English. I`m no native Speaker or writer in this language.
Spoiler alert: This is more akin to the ending in the novel. In the novel, Richard and some others dose the new years party with a massive amount of marijuana. Everyone starts going wild due to the amount of weed, then they find out Richard gave the map to some new tourists, and try killing him with spears. Richard, Etienne, and some others escape on a raft. Richard is saved somehow during the stabbings but i can't recall how. Hence, the line in this clip about the scars is sort of a nod to the book's ending. Some of that might be inaccurate, I read the novel ten years ago but that's the gist of it
I loved this movie as a teenager. Im 28 now and hadn't watched it in a long time but, I recently read the book so watched it again. Oh my god the book is far superior! I'm glad i watched it. And Leo looks so young in it, watching as an adult now!
Leonardo is such a good actor with cleverness expressions leading to infinite and beyond. The movie is deep. The book is deeper. The reality of the author's life might be more underground or not.
This is the one of my all-time favourite films I'm the same age as Leonardo decapricon it reminds me of the good and best days of my life ❤️😊🤗😅best sound track to ever be on a film there will never be one like it again. 🇬🇧 Love to all the fans and film crew
This should have been the original ending. Fits much better with the direction the film went in. This has to be the original ending Danny Boyle intended, where as the ending we see in the film seems more of a studio idea. Clearly shot months after.
why was a ferry headed towards the island? I thought no boats were allowed to travel that way b/c it's a national park which is why they had to secretly swim to get there in the first place!?
Info ou intox? Le film est basé sur le livre qui se termine au moment où les protagonistes doivent quitter les lieux. Je ne vois pas tellement comment porter une intrigue là dessus. Ça irait à l'encontre du message qui est passé par l'auteur.
They were so stupid. Richard was so stupid. Once they knew that the surfers were on the island, Richard(Leonardo DeCaprio) should have come running out of the jungle screaming and told the surfers about the drug farmers on the island and how everyone was dead. They could have gotten off the island, Richard could have given the surfers the slip and then met up with Sal for a trip back to the island.
Airdriver, hi! Very good idea! Really. Richard`s behaviour at this part of the Story (both novel and movie) was unbelievable cruel. He murdered the Guys and Girls! And later there is not one sentence in the book where he pitys or even reflects this fact. Okay, his state of mind was deranged at this part of the plot. But later back in England (on the last one or two pages of the novel) he shows zero remorse with the victims. What a bastard!
I have been to this island and it I beautiful! The Thai people have no problem with the film- it is some of their livelihoods as millions of tourists flock here! However because of this and no government regulation the beach is now practically destroyed form excessive boat fuel and is trampled like hell :(
I know this is off topic, but does anyone know the name of the song that goes "aheeee aiii!" in this movies' trailer. It's been playing in my head forever!
It's also another fine example of the hippy commune/communist society falling apart. There is always one asshole who want's to be the boss, that's been our story for centuries.
Movie was a big part of my coming of age. Captured my imagination in a very unique way. Too be that age again and do something a fraction as special…..
@Ladiesman1447 thanks for the reply. Wow thats interesting. Ive seen many say the book is very different from the movie. So richard gets no action while on the island? Does the book end on a good note like the movie?
Loved the book - I wonder why they shifted so much half the story. Ps: read all of if in my honeymoon visiting our beautiful coast in northeast brazil, so it matched the vibe of travelling I was on
there's a lot of differences between the book and the movie. I do like the movie better. In the book Richard is British, he never gets with Francois, I'm the end he Etienne, and Keaty pick pocket people for money so they can get back home. Either way, both endings make me depressed. It's such a good story ans it sucks when it's over.
@Ladiesman1447 I find it isn’t as fulfilling as the book. It’s much happier, but the book was much more memorable as a clear expression of the dangers of trying to maintain paradise.
I've read the book :) it was awesome,yeh, I think they still attack Richard though,i remember reading something about everyone attacking him rather than just Sal,and then Keaty,Francoise,and Etienne return from the beach and save him,and then only them plus Jed leave or something,from what i remember :D
I like this ending a lot more. It's a good example of a spoiled kid not being able to handle it and just offing herself when she can't have it her way. Just watched it again tonight for the first time in years and I forgot how much I hated these kids. Immature, over privileged college brats partying on mommy and daddies money, and refusing responsibility, wanting to run away, get drunk, party and fuck all the time. This film is a good example of what's wrong with a lot of youths today.
Spot on. I would tend to also say that every generation seems to have youth as you described: spoiled, over privileged brats spending mommy and daddy’s money to party and get f***** up constantly.
I'm looking desperately for the unabridged audio book. Any finders? Is anyone looking for something that I may have...or find? So interested! Thx in advance, A
I don't know how the Story is handled in the Book. And I'm curious about the Reason why Sals Suicide isn't shown in the Offical Version. But I think the Suicide of Sal is an Indication, that she and Daffy were once a Pair.
@Ladiesman1447 An other weightily issue is : Is this based on a true story ? As Daffy explains the beach to Richard isn't he talking about a bitch too ?
I love the beach and far cry 3 for similar reasons, reasons that I can't fully explain but really specific ones. Well, that was a pointless statement but I gave it anyway.
You might be right.i would love to see the wilder parts of the world. I hate being locked away from them. I am grateful for the safety and comfort but I feel life was never meant to be enjoyed from a safe and comfortable place - its more like living in a prison than living a life, when there is no danger, surprise or struggle.. 🤣
Solid movie. I would of given it a 7/10 if it wasn’t for the ending. It was anti climatic. And didn’t make the most sense and was kind of a wtf ending. I think the alt ending is better because you know what happens and it gives it a clear cut off.
Agreed. The internet cafe scene kind of idealized what happened on the island. It's almost a 1980s movie ending. I think the alternate would've been truer to the source material.
There is two sides to that story. They got permission to shoot there because the beach was very polluted, there was tons of litter, needles. They restored it to pristine condition but they reshaped the sand and they transplanted some trees. No ne stopped them or protested when they did it but when the government saw the film with the drugs and violence painting Thailand and Thai people in a bad light they went after the filmakers and the 'enviromental damage' was a good reason to sue.
the beach only got polluted AFTER the movie came out. I don't know where you got this but this movie made the beach popular for tourists, resulting in litter. it was pretty unknown before the movie came out, not a lot of tourists..
It would be cool if he lost his mind then redeemed himself or something and or like became a shark tamer or something epic but instead he just looped out of reality which I thought made the movie a little goofy but the end was pretty cool best part is the beach song by Moby ⛱️
The problem with the film was always the tone. It starts off as a feel good travel movie, then from the shark attack it gets incredibly bleak, it feels like a different film. I watch it repeatedly but turn it off at the shark attack.
The rollercoaster ride you describe is actually the hallmark of good writing. I think the reason you don't like it is that it's a buzz kill, but that's kind of the point. We all feel it up to the shark scene. It's so perfectly written and portrayed. It really does capture what it's like to be on the road better and more viscerally than any other movie. The feeling you describe in the first act, in a nutshell, is why backpackers love the movie. It's a feeling they've experienced. For non-travelers, it's as close as they'll ever get to that exhilaration without strapping on a backpack and hitting the road. I'm getting the itch just writing about it. But there are also underlying themes in The Beach you may not relate to if you're not a backpacker. I think that's why it didn't do well critically; most people only saw what was going on at the surface. I believe that is also why it has a cult following, particularly among backpackers. But the themes are not only recognizable to backpackers, they're also universal. This movie is an exposé on society itself. The backpackers at the Beach, whether they were intended to be or not, are an allegory, and as relevant today as they were 23 years ago, I would argue more so.
Yea, but its word for word(almost) how the book ends. Much better than the feel-good bullshit hollywood version. That one makes me so mad, like it was some vacation with friends and a great memory. Not even close to how the book ends. "I like how that sounds. I carry many scars."
It's a rough cut scene, (unedited workprint), there is no music in the background, only narrator's voice. I wouldn't call it "stupid" it's just an idea what the producers had in mind for an ending before they think of something better in their tablature (view).
Yea, this ending is from the book, It doesn't have any music or anything because it wasn't finished for the final product. And they didn't "think of something better." It was much worse. It was dumb. I am a huge fan of the director but this was not one of his better movies.
