The Beginner's Guide: This Is Not For You

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If you define it by its gameplay, The Beginner's Guide doesn't really have any rules. It's more in the realm of interactive fiction than objective based gameplay.
But if you define it by its critical reception, the first rule of The Beginner's Guide is that you do not talk about The Beginner's Guide!
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@moiseslozano6906 4 года назад

This game is the embodiment of the terrifying experience of walking on the street, seeing someone cry... And keep just walking.

@pm-rj7ef 3 года назад

I really like how you put it

@ANNIHILISTIC 2 года назад

Huh... yeah, kind of, yeah. Interesting.

@chefboiarby304 2 года назад

I would think the opposite. I would think that this game is the embodiment of trying to comfort the person and figure out what's wrong, but you just end up making them feel worse.

@veronicaryder7553 2 года назад

@@chefboiarby304 it could also be the embodiment of having someone cry to you, not knowing why but not try to know and just letting them cry. Not feeling the obligation to comfort, but potentially, only possibly, comforting the person anyway.

@chasederringer 4 года назад

So glad that I’m not the only one who had an angry copy of House of Leaves

@emmavoid 4 года назад

Honestly, there's no better example of a book that might be upset at us for how we read it

@anonymous_wednesday 5 месяцев назад

@@emmavoid that book is upset that we had the audacity to even try to read it at all.

@samwallaceart288 4 года назад

I really liked Jacksepticeye’s playthrough of this game, because he goes into it with blind innocence, but totally catches the deeper psychological aspects of it and it gets strangely personal and intimate for Jackaboi.

@jayrootly 3 года назад

He always does the best playthroughs of these type of games, honestly, like "when the darkness comes" for example

@dokwalk 5 месяцев назад

I like his video and that was my actual first experience with it, as well. However, i thought he saw it in a way that I didnt. It's funny how first, i was like "wtf are you talking about? This doesnt mean that?" But, aint that part of the point? People see things differently. All things. Lead me to a new appreciation of taking things in with a truly open mind and not letting my mind think I understand everything I'm experiencing.

@TheNumnutRandomness 4 года назад

The beginner's guide was a life-changing game that I could only play once. I love that spiral you can get on contemplation, then contemplating on the fact you are contemplating? Then contemplating the fact you ARE contemplating the contemplation and-AHHHH. All that aside, I'm glad you took a somewhat different approach to the game. The relationship between artist and fan can be... fraught to say the least. Especially if they were an anchor that helped you develop your own ideas and get you through a difficult time. But when you're a content creator? Whose "door" is right there? To quote Innuendo Studios, it's a good look on, "How unintentionally cruel it can be to make someone else responsible for your sense of self-worth". I'm really glad to have your videos tho.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

I think about that line from Innuendo Studios a lot!

@trinitylhearts 4 года назад

With Moises Lozano's comment ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-swEyqNBnWSg.html&lc=UgyT3GW0DE1ipJj7WNd4AaABAg and I think explored in the video with boundaries and not knowing which side of the door you're on I find The Beginner's Guide asks what is too personal? And how to create stories about the personal responsibly? As it is The "Beginner's Guide" though maybe I'm inserting meaning with that . With the para-social it's difficult to discern what's a healthy, co-op constructive relationship and vs what's making someone else responsible for your sense of self-worth, I think. Though for Davey and the alike it doesn't have to be this way because it's like a set of digital literacy skills understanding where those boundaries are and how to respect them or as for starters recognizing them. . Meanwhile with making, and talking about, stories about the interpersonal be it between creator and curator or creator and fan plus curator and fan those boundaries should also be challenged and explored. This causing a tension between exploration and respect. I believe value people first involving respecting Coda, respecting Davey, and respecting the audience. Here not only are we transgressing Coda's work but it feels we're transgressing Davey's emotions as they open up about what they are doing in that curator and fan relationship. There's this desire to open up about everything but "How unintentionally cruel it can be to make someone else responsible for your sense of self-worth". . As a take away, with exploration I feel there is importance for representation of struggles but that has to be in accordance with respect and the self-restraint of curating what should be said if anything, though fictional we empathize and relate to maybe times where we learned or are going through respecting the wishes of others: The Beginner's Guide.

@yserareborn 11 месяцев назад

If any book would shout at you and say "no more book for you!", it would be House of Leaves.

@Furore2323 4 года назад

Strucci's Law: As a video essay gets more interesting, the probability of it making you want to re-watch 'Parasocial Relationships Part Two' approaches 100%.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Always indulge that impulse! :D

@midnightcowboi8193 4 года назад

The only thing this game is missing is several narrators commenting on each other and an exhaustive list of carpentry materials for a house

@darkrai6543 4 года назад

The Beginner's Guide had me staring at my ceiling for an hour after first experiencing it - I think I'm gonna go spend some time doing that again after you've brought it back to mind and introduced your own take. I've watched a couple of lets plays with this game and one thing that I've noticed is how much content creators also tend to relate to it incredibly hard, just like I did as a writer. I think part of it comes from trying to get inside someone else's head - that's basically my job as a writer. Not only am I supposed to create what are essentially 'people', realistic, living, breathing, I'm also supposed to learn from them and try to understand their wants and needs and desires. And part of that is realizing when I've gone wrong - there's always a risk I've done wrong by them - mischaracterization is a huge disservice to their stories - and despite the fact that they're 'just' characters, fictions, my creations, that's incredibly uncomfortable. Empathy's hard.

@MixturexD 4 года назад

If you ever want to play this game I suggest pausing this video and playing it. This is one of those videogames you need to go in blind and experience for yourself

@jasonblalock4429 4 года назад

Personally, I never felt like TBG was saying "don't interpret this game," I felt like it was mostly about establishing a line between author and audience. Basically, interpreting a work with "I" statements like "I'm pretty sure Coda is female and the narrator is deliberately obscuring her gender" is fine. But saying "Davey (the author) intends Coda to be female" is not. One of these is my interpretation; the other is projecting that interpretation onto the author. Avoid the latter, and you're fine. Don't make assumptions about the author based on your interpretations.

@darkerSolstice 4 года назад

As a non-cisgender person, an interpretation I've always cherished (though would never hold as "the one true answer") is Coda as a transgender woman who was exploring her identity through games. The last part of Escape, the phone call, reads very cleanly though that lens, and the Devil-Tower-Star theme present in Notes and Tower could be bent to that viewpoint. Shame, Catastrophe, a Fresh Start. But I own that this is definitely my own stance, born from my own experience. Still, one can clearly say that there's some interesting things wrt gender to observe in the games, definitively.

@jasonblalock4429 4 года назад

@@darkerSolstice Yeah, the potential of a trans interpretation had occurred to me, but (being cis) I wouldn't consider myself fit to make the argument. . Either way, though, I feel like the narrator's actions would make a LOT more sense if there was some sort of unrequited romantic and\or sexual attraction involved. Especially with his comments midway through about wanting to get to know artists via their games, and avoid all the "messy" face-to-face interactions. And if he's deluded enough to add elements to Coda's games, then incorporate those elements into his projected interpretations, he's definitely deluded enough to obscure Coda's gender (or other aspects of them) to pretend that he's being objective.

@auroralong5437 4 года назад

Which is difficult when English teachers mark you down for doing exactly this

@trickytreyperfected1482 3 года назад

This is exactly the reason I always hated doing essays in English. Like, no I'm not saying that the author meant this for certain, I'm suggesting that they might have meant this and supporting it with concrete evidence.

@MDG-mykys 3 года назад

@@darkerSolstice that's one hell of a projection

@cyanmanta 3 года назад

I had no idea what to expect with this game. Critics I follow praised it but avoided going into any details that could give it away. I now understand why: because the experience of playing it is intensely personal to each player. It's one of my all time favorites.

@Ezakur 4 года назад

I just realized this is such a good game to use as a didactic tool to teach how games convey meaning

@marcogarcia7944 3 года назад

That is why its the begginners guide

@CharlieGreene24242 Год назад

Ohy god, i hadn't even CONSIDERED the idea that we don't actually KNOW that coda stopped making games. He just stopped sending them to davey.

@Kagomai15 4 года назад

I came into this not expecting much, because I've seen several essays about this game already and thought I'd heard all there is to say about it, but hoo boy was I wrong! This was excellent and thoughtful and I enjoyed every moment. ♡ Thank you for sharing it!!

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you so much! :D

@heeeyyy2947 4 года назад

I still can’t believe this game isn’t as highly regarded as it should be- such a smart and metatextual game! can’t wait to watch the rest of the video! :D

@arianwells9943 4 года назад

Your videos are always delightful! For me, this game was definitely an experience I don't want to repeat again. It's like being in a room with a couple arguing and you can't leave and it's awkward and you're trying not to listen but you want to listen sort OF and it's a miserable yet fascinating thing. Thank you for the video!

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you!

@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo 2 года назад

I believed it up until the game ended. And I felt deeply violated and angry. Also though, i felt called out, because right up to the end, i related to Davey. I saw myself in Davey's violation of Coda. It will always be a special game to me.

@purplecatonbroadway 4 года назад

I get so excited when you upload, and I'm so happy to hear your thoughts on this game, it's got so much to say

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you! :D

@poketdoom 4 года назад

yes my child, you are a good player

@BrineWalsh 4 года назад

I think the game is emphatically demonstrating how "artistic responsibility" cuts both ways. We often apply this to the just the Artist, responsible for the work they create. But does not the Audience, the Viewer, the player, also shoulder responsibility for how they are consuming Art? Like you tell us near the end of the video, it's a 50/50 deal between artist and audience. "We Don't Talk About 'The Beginner's Guide'" always felt like an admission of defeat. I think we're afraid of it because it's one of those games that willfully defies The Discourse. As-per-usual, you masterfully wrangled The Wild Stallion that is this complex piece of media in just over 20 minutes. Thanks for taking us someplace else.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Haha, thank you!

@QuestingRefuge 4 года назад

Been meaning to play this after loving The Stanley Parable. Think I'll definitely be doing that after watching this.

@FingerLickinEvilToTheBone 5 месяцев назад

Coda is a “child of a deaf adult” in the deaf community. Usually referring to a hearing child in a deaf family. Maybe it’s a coincidence but it’s interesting.

@Yesnomu 3 года назад

I really like bringing up accessibility and how it's not always something an audience deserves (with regards to author/content accessibility, anyway). This video got me to see the game in a new way, nice work!

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 3 года назад

Thank you!

@Two-HeadedBoy 4 года назад

I enjoyed this video so much I tried liking it 3 separate times throughout the video.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Haha, thank you! :D

@GlanceValue 4 года назад

didn't even start the vid yet, but I'm so excited, it's one of my fav games!! thanks for making a vid about it [hits play]

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Hope you enjoy it! :D

@danielclaro6049 4 года назад

My thoughts exaxtly. Also Innuendo Studios video on it is incredibld

@GlanceValue 3 года назад

@@danielclaro6049 exactly, that video is amazing too

@Soin3000 4 года назад

Tend not to comment on videos and haven’t played this game, but just feel compelled to say how great your videos are. Whatever you cover, I know it’ll be well-thought out and well-researched and that the video will leave with me with much to think about. Thank you.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you so much!

@discontinuedchannel404 6 месяцев назад

The editing in this video is tremendous. So refreshing to see how the gameplay footage is manipulated to facilitate the scriptwriting of the video essay.

@MichaelMcGrathangrywasp 4 года назад

Your voice is like audible silk

@JuandiegoAvilaNEVAAA 3 года назад

Dot com

@arthurvelwest5481 3 года назад

I think what people get wrong about this game is it's not trying to say don't interpret me, it's saying don't use me to interpret my creator. Art has no meaning except for what we put upon it. Humans are not like that. So people should feel free to say whatever they want about the game, as long as you understand it's more about your relationship to the game then the creators. Also I appreciate someone finally making the point that "hey, maybe coda didn't stop making games, maybe they just stopped sending them to Davy." I replayed the game for the fourth time with my partner recently "their first time." They came to that conclusion and it blew my mind and made so much sense in the narrative.

@Resuarus 4 года назад

Seeing this video in my sub box finally made me pick up and play the game, and I'm glad I did. I love how the game very forcefully makes you stop imprinting your understanding onto it and realize that everything that you're taking away from it (and any other piece of art) is filtered through your own experiences and emotions. What it says to me is not so much "don't talk about me" as "don't talk for me." It's fine to have an opinion about what it means to you, but you can't claim to know the author's intent or ownership over the work. Also, we experience everything with Davey's narration, almost taking on his perspective, but looking at the ways Coda opened up to Davey and how that affected their art is really interesting. It's already making me self-conscious about my own work and the affect that showing it to people has on it.

@kingstarama5478 4 года назад

This video gave me a literal panic attack and I am literally so grateful to you for that.

@kingstarama5478 4 года назад

And yet! Is it you and this video who gave me that panic attack or myself when presented with this information... Either way. Killer video.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you! But... like, I hope you're ok, haha.

@ThePhloop 4 года назад

I think this is your best video yet. Thoughtful, genuinely funny, plus it made me appreciate a game I personally dislike. Great job.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you!

@AikiraBeats 3 года назад

This was done so well. It's really cool how you present the information.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 3 года назад

Thank you!

@loquez_133dg5 2 года назад

Wow amazing id love to see more like this from ur channel excellent video essay and very well spoken i love the the perspective you hold in such objective way yet subtly subjective

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 2 года назад

Thank you so much! :D

@misterhiggledypiggle 4 года назад

That was a fantastic videos, great work!

@Lavinia_Garcia Год назад

Ok: have watched two videos on your channel already and my gosh, can listen for hours, I've really been desiring more stimulating content and ok RU-vid is not always the best place to do so sure ... But then stumbled upon your channel and just thank you for the great videos!

@anuel3780 4 года назад

16:00 huh, that looks like an interesting game, lemme play it (30 minutes later) fuck I'm crying

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Yep, ain't that just the way!

@davidwilliamson4559 4 года назад

You do excellent work. Keep it up!

@a.n.9800 Год назад

I actually just got stuck in an analysis rut trying to figure out how a new element of my favorite series actually *works,* and it was driving me to tears trying to *solve* something that was probably supposed to just be taken at face value. I’m gonna take this video as a warning and step back until I can stop foisting my own desired conclusions on the material. Thank you for this.

@vineasaur 3 года назад

I definitely needed more mental preparation for this

@171QA 4 года назад

Great video as always.

@Medytacjusz 4 года назад

hm, a tangential reflection - but this video made me feel like I was swimming in a strong sea current of concepts and ideas, catching as many of them as I could while seeing the others pass me by and disappear into the deep. Maybe it's because I haven't played TBG yet or read any pieces on it, I was only aware of its existence. But it's okay, I think I have largely got rid of the obsessive need to understand 100%. Our education systems, focused on testing and competition, never teach you of the pleasures in-between - you either get it, or you don't. If you don't, there's that immediate anxiety: have I been fooled? was that a word salad? or am I stupid? And yet, isn't "not fully comprehending" the greatest proof that it was an intellectual challenge, that you had to stretch the limits of your conceptual framework a little bit? Perhaps we are not meant to know one from the other, the uncertainty has to remain (except for the obvious cases, of course). No true exercise is without discomfort. That's why it is rare to get some on a platform so averse to discomfort. But maybe the fact that I had to write this long comment is proof that I am NOT entirely free of the need to comprehend all. Oh well.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

I love this tangential reflection! Thank you for writing it. I think what I hope viewers will take away from my videos is maybe the one concept that intrigued them. Just one thing to go away thinking about for a while, or one thing to have become newly or more acutely aware of - rather than diving deep into everything.

@Nathan-dx2cb 4 года назад

omg this video is so good, I'm really stuggle to understand but is so good

@nickbrowne3286 4 года назад

I like that house of leaves reference in the vid title

@marcusw.4286 4 года назад

i made some creative projects this quarantine and a question poped up while rewatching your videos, dont you get tired of the process of making videos? i just finished a small game and i am so tired of it i cant even think about making another one

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

I get tired of each video as I work on it. It's such a relief to finally finish this one! But I'm already excited to start on the next one, haha.

@ThisIsYourGodNow 3 года назад

People are way too reticent to project personal meaning onto this game. Its like the game critics rokos basilisk, something that seems scary and overwhelming until you take a step back and realise its complete nonsense. Projecting personal meaning onto art is part of the fun!

@Ceasefirerightnow 11 дней назад

Obsessed with games like this. I need MORE

@TheTSense 2 месяца назад

The Beginner's Guide is quite a simple tale, the kind usually found in a book and not an interactive medium, about how easily and openly someone can lie and ignore. Coda says nothing, and Davey tells the world he is depressed. Coda says he is not depressed, and Davey tells the world he is depressed. Coda says he is happy with something, and Davey says Coda is unhappy and needs help. Coda says he REALLY don't like what Davey is doing even if he calls it helping, and Davey hears he needs to do more "help" Coda says he never wants to hear a single word from Davey again, and Davey wants to apologize a million times to him Coda says this material is private, and Davey acknowledges that before he shares it with the world. And Davey has no problem at all lying to himself and to the players face in the very same moment they are looking at evidence

@_fudgepop01 4 года назад

Watching this video really made me realize how much I was projecting onto a few others by putting it into words so-well just what that *is* - really amazing work! I’ll be sharing this vid around for sure! :3

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you! Glad it could help!

@internetdinosaur8810 4 года назад

I was expecting House of Leaves but oh well

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

I do have a video on House of Leaves, haha. (and it does make a sneaky cameo appearance as the book I'm reading at 3:11)

@internetdinosaur8810 4 года назад

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat Oh! Never noticed that, hahaha. Love the videos, btw. Keep em up

@arthurkassabian2528 4 года назад

I haven't played this game, but have certainly heard about it. It sounds like this is a piece of interactive meta, abstract art; perhaps an exercise in how games express post-modernism in the medium of games. Is the meta component one whereby the player is trying to interpret the game as well as the commentary of the game by Davey on top of understanding the game as a whole as a game with commentary, if that makes sense? I also loved the way you extracted themes of para social relationships from this. It's such a prevalent theme in today's social media prevalent times, I'm surprised it isn't a more common theme in art.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

I'll always make everything about parasocial relationships, haha!

@NestorCustodio 4 года назад

All good points and all, but what does having watched this video say about *me*?!

@MrPunkerMcmetal 4 года назад

So, as a creative writing graduate student specializing in vr and interactive fiction I have to say that video left me most jazzed. And not to detract from that, but I see that James Hoffmann vid at 8:09

@FreedumbHS Год назад

this game and the book Godel Escher Bach are my two favorite things in the world

@plumune1705 4 года назад

amazing!

@nicoleseidemann 9 месяцев назад

I came back to specifically this theory not only because I already watched it 3 Times, but because I fucking live tht small joke with the Book 3:09 😂

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 8 месяцев назад

Hehe thank you :D

@justinsanity501 Год назад

It interesting to me that a lot of people go to the audience vs. artist comparison - the way it made me feel as a creative person is more the introvert vs. the extrovert inside of me. The introvert wants to create art for the sake of making it - because it makes him happy. He is fully content to never show these works to anyone and enjoys them for what they are. The extrovert sees these, decides to show the world his art, and is hit with the dopamine rush of external validation. After that, he starts to compromise his artistic vision to create more appealing media to get more validation. He keeps milking that cow until the introvert in himself hates him. To the point where the original artist inside of him doesn't want to create anymore - he's burned out from his art being bastardized. A feeling I have felt before. This game is even clearer to me after listening Davey talk about the aftermath of releasing Stanley's Parable.

@siliconvalleygirl6595 2 года назад

Loved it. I know that this video is far behind in your rearview mirror, but do you think that this kind of self reflection relates to the recent ethical concerns of ethnography and otherness?

@cadenalexandra387 3 года назад

This game fucked me up so bad when I played it years ago and I still think about it

@bilykralik885 4 года назад

Hi I just found your channel and i'm loving it, it's wonderful!

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you! The Last of Us isn't my kind of thing I'm afraid, but maybe I'll be proved wrong if I ever do get around to playing it

@bilykralik885 4 года назад

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat Alright, Fair enough. Wish you great success with your channel :))

@youtubeisevil 2 года назад

This game is like walking in an infinite empty art museum, except hyperrealistically in a videogame.

@lorettabes4553 4 года назад

I love the beginner's guide. Such an interesting experience.

@thomassiggaardandersen6759 2 года назад

I'm a bit late to the party, but the creation of man TM joke made me laugh out loud.

@kyleowens3426 4 года назад

I love your video essays because they encourage me to think about media from different angles. I actually hated this game. I originally heard it was controversial, but nothing else, so I went in as a very blank slate. However, when I finished the game, it was the only time a game made me angry with having wasted time playing it. What I experienced was a long drawn out buildup of non sequitur gameplay and undeserved worship of some rando, terminating in a self-entitled guy's pity party. The whole meta aspect wasn't even on my radar. While I can't say I'm on board with some of your points, I like your angle.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Thank you! :D

@thewizofpants 4 года назад

That moment when saying you've misunderstood The Beginner's Guide is itself a misunderstanding of The Beginner's Guide, as is this statement.

@calvininthanon1546 3 года назад

okay really good vid, second one of yours ive seen, but why is no one talking about the transition at 14:35. I did a double take

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 3 года назад

Haha, thank you for appreciating the unnecessary amount of time I put into matching transitions.

@nicoleseidemann 9 месяцев назад

Can someone give me a list of the used songs music used in this video? I love them❤

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 8 месяцев назад

There's a list at the end of the video :)

@DavetheTurnip 4 года назад

Woof. A lot to unpack after watching this. As you said, talking about The Beginner's Guide is thorny, and I guess so is talking about others talking about The Beginner's Guide ^^ I tend to think "bringing our own shit to the table" is the point of analysis, to filter the work through our own lens. To add ourselves to it, and explain how we experienced it. The danger is thinking that's the only way to see the experience, to be too authoritative with an analysis or interpretation. Davey definitely goes beyond this, crossing the boundaries of his friend as he tinkers with the work itself to make it fit his interpretation. At least that's how it comes across to me now. I made an analysis video of The Beginner's Guide about *looks up* yeesh, 4 years ago? Geez. I imagine my thoughts then are a lot different than now. It might be time for a replay. I enjoyed your video. Especially the distinction between intellectually understanding something and emotionally understanding it, and how The Beginner's Guide helps the player to feel that, as rotten as it may feel in the moment. Maybe that's why everyone who writes this game tip-toes around it. I'd be worried if anyone felt good at the end of the game. :)

@wehttam_1 8 месяцев назад

First rule of fight club

@teamakesgames 4 года назад

I've given up on fully understanding this game. It's a bit like the bomb ending in Stanley Parable. If you keep trying, you loose to the game. You fell into the trap.

@alecatnight1540 4 года назад

The crying woman, why do you want to know who she is? Why do you want to know what happened to coda? The game made me ask myself these questions. Bc I care and I want things to be okay now 🥺

@blake.mp4 3 года назад

what font do you use in the end credits?

@BeshoyHolmes 4 года назад

what The Beginner's guide tell us about Davey

@BishopCDN 4 года назад

As somebody who approaches every game to play it as intended. And in this, I realised that the game was abour Davey and Coda and their tupped up relationship. The way you would when a friend talks about a new love interest or a new relationship. In that space we can bring our own judgement, but only of "psuedo-davey" intertextually. The game was cute and sad.

@vidiia 4 года назад

so refreshing to hear a female voice coming from a video essay channel like this. so often it's just white guys, which isn't necessarily bad, but a bit par for the course nowadays. yay diversity! this channel deserves to blow up even more than it has so far.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Yay! Thank you! :D

@michaelbuehler3897 10 месяцев назад

The reason why this story works is that there is a lot of creative types like Davey and Coda, especially on the internet.

@joejester61105 3 месяца назад

You are all EQUALLY important to the game.

@KingJLG 4 года назад

Whats the song at the end?

@skazkatzroy3444 3 года назад

This game honestly seems like the work of someone who has never known actual fear or actual danger. Someone with even a modicum of experience with abuse would never have made this. It seems insufferable.

@vaylonkenadell 4 месяца назад

Yes, most postmodernists tend to be insufferable.

@nameaccount9598 4 года назад

It seems the interpretation of disdain for interpretation is the consensus. But in my own humble opinion, Davey and Coda are the same person. They're an artist who's struggling to balance accessibility with creative freedom. A struggle that proved too powerful for the artist to handle. (Which hit really close to home, as I often struggle with that exact dilemma) But as for the popular interpretation: I think its stance is quite presumptuous. It's assuming that there's harm in one altering another's work or taking a piece of art as a case study on the author. When In reality, a situation like the one presented in the game, where the artist is affected by these actions, would be incredibly rare. Interpretations of art are themselves art. So if the artist is allowed freedom, so should the interpreter.

@maxfarey 4 года назад

Hi Grace, awesome video. I always find your research impressive. I just wanted to say that you could/should phrase some of your language differently. I reject your use of the distinction between knowing something 'philosophically' and knowing something 'practically' (at around 14:40). Epistemology accounts for practical and emotional knowledge too, and there is much written on this in philosophy. Its a very small point but sad times when it is implied philosophy is just intellectual affairs about the mind, and not practical and emotional. I think a better way to phrase the distinction would be knowing something 'intellectually' (having knowledge-that, which is propositional knowledge) and 'emotionally and practically' (having personal emotional knowledge, closer related to knowledge-how, which is knowing what its like to experience something). This is obviously quite a minute point, and not all that important in the grand scheme of things. This video is really well put together and I've loved coming across your channel recently 😊

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Hi, thanks for your comment! I'm a bit confused because 'intellectually' is exactly the word I used! Exact quote of what I said (at 14:10): "Because there's a difference between knowing something, like intellectually, and KNOWING something, emotionally - really feeling and understanding it." I totally agree that philosophy deals with emotion, which is why I didn't say philosophically, haha.

@maxfarey 4 года назад

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat Quite right, I think I mean more about how both are equal in the 'sandpit of philosophy', but are different practically. But I definitely should have been more clear in my original comment 😖

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

Oooooh, I see! Sorry that was just kind of a throwaway jokey comment referring to Robert Yang's 'Not a Manifesto' from earlier, haha. Sorry the wording/context was a bit misplaced.

@maxfarey 4 года назад

@@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat No worries at all! And I didn't put that together, sorry. Thanks for the responses, I look forward greatly to your next projects! All the best!

@theajshortman 4 года назад

i just want intergalactic cat overlords 🐱😸😾

@Overthinking_Media 9 месяцев назад

Very Rarely do I watch videos on X1 speed anymore. When I do it's because it's a video that's really caught me and made me want to spend the time watching it. This video was one of those. Thank you for making the video.

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! :D

@Flakko999 6 месяцев назад

Your cooked bro💀💀 dopamine receptors fried

@Overthinking_Media 6 месяцев назад

@@Flakko999 Yeah, it's something I've been really trying to work on and it has not been going well 😅 But there's a reason my channel is called what it is. I can't shut my brain off

@themountaindude 5 месяцев назад

Not for Me?.. just like the #House of Leaves!

@bacht4799 4 года назад

So it’s like PI the movie by Darren Aronofsky where there is a thing but it’s doesn’t want to be found or something like that.. anyway see PI it’s a very great movie..

@WhatsSoGreatAboutThat 4 года назад

I've seen Pi, it is a great movie. :D

@bacht4799 4 года назад

What's So Great About That? It’s a great movie but I wouldn’t recommend it for people with depression or obsessions thoughts.. hope it’s alright I said this but as one with Asperger Symptoms some of those thoughts you gets now and then makes you almost looking after a drill too do that the trick after in the end.. again hope it’s alright to say stuff like this..

@russellg5022 8 месяцев назад

Dara O'Brien told the joke better 03:10

@trinitylhearts 4 года назад

Insta-share!

@xcelentei 3 года назад

When I play Bethesda games I mod or glitch out the carrying capacity system. Because it's boring and I like shinies.

@vaylonkenadell 4 месяца назад

The Beginner's Guide made me hate Davey Wreden. Everyone has the right to subject media to critical analysis. Everyone. And fuck him for trying to guilt us into not doing that.

@user-no7oj8ud8b 4 года назад

I could never play this cuz the footage makes me feel creeped out

@commenteroftruth9790 Год назад

to seperate author from narrator. and to seperate fiction from reality. that the art is what the art is. and forcing the art to fit your view is all that you would be doing. and so it doesnt matter whose perspective it is. you are the one experiencing the art, you are the audience. the implied reason for the game, a game cannot be a game without the player.

@commenteroftruth9790 Год назад

bro what kinda 16:06 2am adult swim horror block did i just witness

@commenteroftruth9790 Год назад

bruh 16:40 is nightmare fuel

@commenteroftruth9790 Год назад

the ending to this video 10/10

@ThirithCH 4 года назад

I like the video, but I think it conflates interpreting the game too readily with what “Davey” does, which IMO is much more about the relationship between author and audience, the text itself being Instrumentalised to that end. I don’t think the two can be neatly separated at all times, but I never felt that The Beginner’s Guide critiques interpretation, just a very specific kind of interpretation that comes with a lot of baggage and neediness.

@NorthernStar27 4 года назад

I don't really play videogames, so I don't get it ...

@ravenfrancis1476 4 года назад

Then, why are you on a video essay for a video game?

@Rotom2304 3 года назад

This comment isn't for you, it's for me

@Glitch-Gremlin 8 месяцев назад

LOL Soon as you brought in that "Black Trans" Crap "Game" i was O. U. T. OUT!

@crazychicken8290 6 месяцев назад

Game makes no sense

@simonemancuso3576 4 года назад

The game resists interpretation because that's the point. Tha author is dead, so should be the interpreters of his work

@fluffy6923 4 года назад

It's a pretty decent game for people who enjoy walking.

@trinitylhearts 4 года назад

Imagine a walking simulator game where you walk from point A to point B and observe your surroundings in a straight-ish line

@That_One_Xatu 3 года назад

@@trinitylhearts ON RAILS WALKING SIM pogchamp

@shmelvin4659 Год назад

I am a notorious sexist and still watched this video

@iron6672 8 месяцев назад

This trans stuff is really not an issue most people in the world care about. Ask the Palestinians if "trans rights" is ever going to be a question for them, or the Israelis for that matter.

@kristajones7202 7 месяцев назад

Israel has fairly robust queer rights, including national healthcare paying for gender affirming surgeries. Palestine is hit and miss, bit in the past Israel has opened their borders for queer folk seeking asylum.