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The Best $200 DAC - RU6 vs Modi Multibit 

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@PKAPE004
@PKAPE004 9 месяцев назад
Just got my RU7. Wow! This thing has it all. Analog sounding, details, depth, and space. It makes my LCD-X sound so good and easily beats my $600 iFi Gryphon, which I now use as a LO to get that extra power.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 Год назад
I integrated the RU6 into my 2 channel system, and it blew away my Ares II... More bass, more spaciousness, bigger soundstage and more pleasing clarity. I used a 4.4 TRRS to L/R XLR connectors, and hooked her up to my Denafrips Hades preamp, to Thallo amplifier out to a pair of KLH Model 5 speakers and two SVS SB3000 subs. I am going to play around with this, the Ares II may be going back in its box.
@RiseFall123
@RiseFall123 Год назад
What exact cable you are using? What settings? What volume? I also want to use it in the 2 channel rig.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 Год назад
@@RiseFall123 Settings, I think OS on, volume to max. That is about it. I posted the cable and adapter to your other post.
@JtwasLuck
@JtwasLuck Год назад
You should try out the new RU7, it’s a 1-bit DAC and basically improves upon the RU6. Retaining that warm smoothness while not sacrificing details whatsoever. I’ve been very impressed with it.
@EricRosenfield
@EricRosenfield Год назад
I have both, and I think the RU6 sounds better
@shawnpwatsons1
@shawnpwatsons1 Год назад
I believe Schitt is coming out with a new Modi Multi-bit with Unison USB implementation in the Spring '23 and this will increase the smoothness, spacial cues, etc.
@mtnmankeith9069
@mtnmankeith9069 Год назад
Thanks for the comparison.. I have the modi multibit with the iFi SPDIF iPurifier2. Makes I bigger difference then I thought it would. My end game dac. If the ru6 had optical out I’d definitely try it.
@Luinitari
@Luinitari Год назад
Been eagerly awaiting this one!
@Luinitari
@Luinitari Год назад
What transducer did you use in your testing?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Headphones? Is that what you mean?
@Luinitari
@Luinitari Год назад
@@MrAyrit yep
@Luinitari
@Luinitari Год назад
IEM, headphone, speaker, etc
@patrickthunnus
@patrickthunnus Год назад
Have compared only the RU6 and Modi 3. The RU6 images beautifully with better detail, tho some might feel the highs are a bit rolled off. The Modi 3 has a more forward, splashy presentation but flatter imaging. I favor the RU6 as a DAC that presents the illusion of a musical performance in a non-fatiguing, natural way that is very analog sounding; I also use it full time as my main living room DAC in conjunction with FLAC files, works extremely well. Just wish it supported optical.
@paulcathcart7896
@paulcathcart7896 Год назад
I hope you still get questions on these older videos. You are the only audio expert on RU-vid who answers my questions and I really appreciate it, especially as I buy many of the items you review, such as focal elegia, m1060c and the red tube amp my wife stole from me. So I was wondering would you recommend the Chord Mojo 2 or the Cayin RU6? Only for use with headphones. Please advise and thanks for making great videos.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I’m obviously a huge fan of the RU6 and think it’s an easy rec. the Mojo 2 is good but is it $600 good… I struggle with that.
@vetreportsaei4605
@vetreportsaei4605 Год назад
Have you guys tried the Hiby FC6 multibit. It came out more recently. Some people say it is better than the RU6. Love to hear what you think
@brokenarrow9611
@brokenarrow9611 Год назад
Now that a miniature R2R dac is proven, the next things Cayin should do for V2 is implement an external power supply when we do need the juice (I think R2R itself is bit power hungry tech) and provide a pure line out for high fidelity amping, a bit size increase i'll not mind to achieve this.
@brokenarrow9611
@brokenarrow9611 Год назад
And yes no battery please, I hate batteries as it puts an expiry date on the device.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I could go either way. I think a battery option would be great. Set it up like the Mojo 2, where it will bypass the battery if it is plugged in and fully charged.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 Год назад
Agree, a larger case to easily place within a two channel HiFi system. This RU6 deserves at least that much.
@gee3883
@gee3883 5 месяцев назад
Cheers dude just ordered an RU6.
@ryanchristopher2810
@ryanchristopher2810 Год назад
I've been looking at getting the RU6 for my iems as well as looking for a dac around the same price for my bedroom 2way system. This seems like the perfect solution for both actually. Does the RU6 have a line out mode or something because I've always heard amplifying a signal TWICE is a no no?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
There isn’t a line out mode. I’ve heard the double amping thing as well, but I think it’s one of those things that you just let your ears decide. My ears don’t mind it.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Just for a little perspective, the new Mojo 2 no longer has a line out mode. When i asked Chord about it, they just told me to set the volume to a certain level to get the voltage right. That could probably be figured out with the RU6, if you really wanted to.
@ryanchristopher2810
@ryanchristopher2810 Год назад
@@MrAyrit Ok well thank you for the response. I'll certainly give it some more research and thought. By the way you describe the RU6 it seems to be right up my alley. I use Tidal off my phone on my bedroom system mostly but do listen to cds from time to time as well and of course there is not a usb output on the DVD player I use as a transport but that's a whole other fish to fry. Lol Thank you for all you do. You have the most genuine and practical approach to this hobby that I've seen on RU-vid so far. (And with quality production to boot.) Also thank you for being a teacher. I imagine you being one of the greats out there. We need people like you more and more theses days. Happy listening!
@brokenarrow9611
@brokenarrow9611 Год назад
Yes a slight concern, but in this case I guess it functions as a pre amp, and most peoples impressions suggest that they do like this setup.
@jakkiryanov9859
@jakkiryanov9859 Год назад
Try the Modi Multibit with the OPA2156 mod, it completely unleashes it.
@thespiceofjohnmenu8304
@thespiceofjohnmenu8304 10 месяцев назад
Slightly unrelated, I bought the BIFROST a few days ago used (first gen) and it sound amazing!!! I didn’t want a headphone amp / just a solid dedicated DAC
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 9 месяцев назад
i guess, still not as fatal as z1r or kses which are very unfortunate tbh
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 9 месяцев назад
just add bit identity
@thespiceofjohnmenu8304
@thespiceofjohnmenu8304 8 месяцев назад
identity?@@iikatinggangsengii2471
@joshchacko7729
@joshchacko7729 Год назад
Would this, a "musical" dac amp be a good combination with a "musical" headphone as well like the Hifiman HE-R9 modded by JM? Thank you.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
More of a personal preference thing, but I don’t think so. Amp with make a difference too, or are you using just the RU6?
@joshchacko7729
@joshchacko7729 Год назад
@@MrAyrit i am living a pretty portable lifestyle, so I was thinking of either the Cayin RU6, the Questyle M15, or the Earmen Colibri. Ifi having a slightly warmer, narrower soundstage probably wouldn't help either eh... How about the new Earmen Coribri then? I know the HE-R9s modded by JM don't need much power, but audio synergy wise? Is the Colibri more analytical than the RU6, giving me that perfect yang for the yin of the HE-R9? Thank you so much for helping. ✌🏼
@joshchacko7729
@joshchacko7729 Год назад
@@MrAyrit And how's the bass boost pair with the JM HE-R9?
@theodorezurla496
@theodorezurla496 Год назад
What is your favorite portable amp to use with the RU6?
@hameedn.b7004
@hameedn.b7004 Год назад
You might want to look topping nx4/7
@brian-baker
@brian-baker Год назад
Be curious how the new Multibit 2 stacks up.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Me too
@edwardh2153
@edwardh2153 Год назад
I'm also a fan of the RU6. I've been feeding it through 3.5 SE at about 88 Low gain (just before the power jump) to my Topping A30pro which i find warmer than other Topping amps. Compared to my Delta Sigma dongle the realism is shocking. Now with the release of the RU7 with a line out setting, more power and a true 4.4mm balanced output I'm thinking of trying the RU7. Any thoughts on the RU7?
@cdotwu
@cdotwu Год назад
Which desktop amps do you think pairs well with the RU6?
@carlsitler9071
@carlsitler9071 Год назад
I A/Bed the Multibit and liked the $110 Sanskrit 2 better so bought it. I feed it to my Asgard 3 then to my BasX. They are close so...
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Sounds like you’re zeroing in on your sound. That’s what it’s all about.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Год назад
Have you ever tried the ifi zen streamer? It's got a usb output so I was wondering if it would work with the ru6. I'm not sure as the usb input on the ru6 works both for power and data... If it did it could be a real good system.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I had the Zen Stream for a bit, but didnt have the RU6 at the time. I imagine it would work. I just thought the Zen Stream was expensive for what it was.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Год назад
@@MrAyrit i agree. still it can be found cheaper used. and i mentioned it because it's One of the few "affordable" good streamers that has USB out so it could maybe be used with the ru6. maybe the extra One pays for the ifi could be worth it by being able to use the ru6. it could be my only dac as i could use it in my home system and also on the go.
@kevingest5452
@kevingest5452 Год назад
does the RU6 put out a full line level for use as an input to an integrated amp which would match the other components?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I think you could get it adjusted to where it would work just fine.
@ilanspiro1645
@ilanspiro1645 Год назад
Hi Is it safe/ok to use its outputs tor connection directly to an integrated/ preamp inputs?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I haven’t had any issue doing it.
@ilanspiro1645
@ilanspiro1645 Год назад
Thanks :)
@supermax822
@supermax822 Год назад
astell&kern hc2 or luxury&precision w2 better?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Haven’t tried those yet. Maybe at some point.
@brokenarrow9611
@brokenarrow9611 Год назад
How does the Cayin RU6 compares to the Denafrips Ares II, is the sound quality woth the $550 price difference, especially when connected to a high power amplifier for big headphones.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
We'll see. Someone has offered to send an Ares II, but I've got too much stuff right now. Eventually, I'll get to try it though.
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 Год назад
@@MrAyrit I would love to know
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 Год назад
I have both, and hooked up the RU6 via a TRRS to XLR cable and plugged into my Denafrips Hades preamp out to their Thallo amp, feeding two KLH Model 5's and two SVS SB3000 subs. The Cayin surprisingly outperformed the Ares II in just about every area. It honestly blew me away, the sound was that much more improved. The RU6 is a keeper.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 Год назад
@@eddiebaby22 I like it better than my Ares II, debating on what to do in regards to my HiFi rig... The Ares II may be going back in the box.
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 Год назад
@@michaelwright1602 Brilliant, good to hear it. People go daft spending big on DACs, they are pretty near each other if they are working right. I'm glad the cheaper one worked out for you in your system 👍
@kato2395
@kato2395 Год назад
How do you connect the RU6 to your amp? Or do you simply use its internal amp? I used to have one before selling it, sounds great with grado because it smooths the sound signature out. However, I do think one of the disadvantages of the RU6 is you cannot use the dac only and connect directly to your higher end amp. You always have to go through the internal amp and only amplify the signal from its internal amp through the amplifier you connect it to.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Yeah, I don't stress about that too much. If it sounds good, then I'm happy. I usually run the RU6 at about 60-70 in high gain into my other amps.
@kato2395
@kato2395 Год назад
@@MrAyrit oh yeah just read your reply regarding the chord mojo output where we can match the output signal to the point where we get the best sound quality and let the other amp do all the amplifying and heavy lifting. Interesting theory, might want to try it out myself next time when I got a DAC with a built in amp.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 Год назад
I plugged mine into my preamp, via TRRS and XLR, and used that for output to the amp. But it sounds like you have an integrated amp, so you would have to use the RU6 to control volume.
@cxmxc
@cxmxc Год назад
hey man so YOU USE THE ru6 as dac/pre-amp do you max it out?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
Not usually, I keep it around 75, so I have some wiggle room to tweak.
@edwardh2153
@edwardh2153 Год назад
@@MrAyrit I just wanted to jump in to say that I have been using the Cayin RU7 for a few weeks now. It is very resolving compared to the RU6 especially in DSD 256 mode. Even in DSD 64 it isn't quite as buttery smooth as the RU6 so I'll be keeping both of them. The RU7 has a big soundstage and doesn't sound tinny like the sabre dacs I've heard that drive me crazy. Also the RU7 has more power and it does a great job driving my amp in line out mode. I think it is a win win.
@Reeeepicheep
@Reeeepicheep Год назад
This may be a dumb question but what volume level do you keep the RU-6 on when connected to an external amp?
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I usually keep it in the middle. 50-60. I like to have a lot if range on my amps to dail in the volume.
@Reeeepicheep
@Reeeepicheep Год назад
@@MrAyrit Interesting. 90-100 is what I ended up going with for my Bottlehead Crack which needed the extra volume output.
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
I do not listen loud. Maybe 70db, probably closer to 65 most times. There are often times I use a device and can barely turn the volume knob. I remember the ifi HipDac being like that. I feel like I'm blaring the Lumineers right now with the RU6 at 66 -> Quicksilver at 8 o'clock -> JM Mod Ether CX
@rothgartheviking858
@rothgartheviking858 Год назад
looks like the modi multibit is for sale again.
@chefsteve8381
@chefsteve8381 Год назад
Add this to a tube amp and you have the perfect distortion chain....
@MrAyrit
@MrAyrit Год назад
The perfect distortion chain. That, my friend, is what makes trying audio gear fun.
@Luinitari
@Luinitari Год назад
@@MrAyrit bingo-most of us “try” through you, so Kudos to what you are doing here! 😂
@kerryvanderkamp5051
@kerryvanderkamp5051 Год назад
I have the RU6 and Feliks Echo “distortion chain”. I concur with MrAyrit it is just lovely. Mmmmm. Gotta love 2nd order harmonic distortion…
@chefsteve8381
@chefsteve8381 Год назад
@@kerryvanderkamp5051 Correct some distortion can be good, some not....
@kerryvanderkamp5051
@kerryvanderkamp5051 Год назад
Understood and I do have a very clean chain that is my daily driver but there is something special about the RU6 + Echo + HD6xx combo that I find really enjoyable for a change. Variety is the spice of life for this audiophile. 🙂
@silkhead44
@silkhead44 11 месяцев назад
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