The best 1/0 ofc wire for yo money! ( 1/0 OFC shootout) 

1/0 OFC Cheat Sheet updated 2/14/21 rb.gy/oe93pb Memphis amp kit amzn.to/3akPKOn (affiliate link) Skar amp kit amzn.to/3aZ5u8A (affiliate link) Stinger Pro 1/0 OFC amzn.to/2N76qzZ (affiliate link)

I went back and watched the whole series last week. Very informative

Get some whip fo yo whip!

Excellent video. Short, clear and concise, with all pertinent specs listed. Great stuff, man!

Results I expected. Welding cable is the best cable period. Great Video Rob!

Grate comparison keep the info coming thanks for all you do for the community.

Great and informative video as always!!

Thanks for your great contributions

I used the flex whip 4 gauge in my last build to run a second battery and, in turn, an amp. I was very happy with it. Super easy to work with and very cost effective.

Good vids as always bro

Oh man. I really wish I had found this video prior to installing the Big 3 on a Chevy truck. 🎉 thanks

Robert you are one of the hardest working guys in the RU-vid car audio universe...👍

Very interesting! That Flexwhip definitely surprised me too! Awesome video, very informative brother.

You need to get more wire soon. Your reviews are great. The honesty you provided is great. Some of the companies wires you did a review have bigger wire as well. Some how need to get more pieces, especially the bigger ones.

I appreciate the video HiFi

Great vid, Vega.

I have dual runs of 1/0 flex whip from ebay in my truck running about 6k watts rated power(not after rise). I'm extremely happy with it, although I wish I had just gone with a single run of 2/0 flex whip. After I did my truck build, I did a build in my girls car using that same exact orange 2/0 flex whip that you tested, and I am also extremely happy with it. It is plenty flexible and really caries the power well.

Great video.

These are by far my favorite series.

The shop I work at part time sells MESA cable. It’s manufactured by Scosche. The kit is 199.99 and the wire off the spool is 6.99 per foot. It’s really nice wire but a bit pricey.

Thanks for all the work you put in on this list, Mr Vega. You have probably helped a couple hundred people pick the right wire for their installation. There's only 1 wire left that I'm personally curious about, and that's the wire you can get at AirGas welding supply stores, as I believe they are very wide spread across the country. I had 2 runs of thier 1/0 wire in my last build, and it did great for me at about 4k watts. I can send you a sample of the 1/0 if you want. I have plenty left. I'd really like to see their 2/0 and 3/0 wire as it was pretty cheap per foot.

I like the 2aught 2/0 welding cable.

I was hoping to see some gp no bs wire in the lineup. Maybe next time. Good video lots of good information here when choosing wire 👍

Cool video!!!

The mesa is available in a 0g amp kit its between 199 and 250. Mobile electronic specialists of america m.e.s.a. they have been around for atleast 6 yrs if not more there pretty decent not necessarily great

The Mesa wire is only sold at car audio stores. My brother in law runs a shop and they sell the Mesa 1/0 for around $8-9 a foot retail.

Keen to get my hands on the new tinned Sky High wire. I love the bright pink colour that Certified Basshead offers

I've always used Sky High Car Audio wire for as long as i have been in car audio Robert your the man

I’d like to see where eb flex welding wire ends up on the board. It’s usually cheeper per foot then the temco especially when they have a sale. I’ve used there 4/0 in most of my vehicles

You should review Cardas Audio products. They are easily one of the best sounding cables in my opinion.

Hardest working man in car audio!!!

Cool video!

Mesa wire can be only found at stores that are part of the mesa group. I don't know if that helps

I honestly thought the CBD, I mean certified bass head wire, was going to be a duplicate of somebody else’s on the market.... it remains a mystery...😛 good upload man!!!

I was beginning to wonder if you were going to test the sample I sent in. You were gathering more samples. That 2/0 is bad ass. When you bent that bastard, I knew we had a winner.

These are neat comparisons. I'd like to see one comparing what lugs and crimpers people like to use.

I'm going to buy index cards!!! Great way to get the thinks organization!!!

Hey Robert going back and watching your first 1/0 shoot outs the welding cable listed as having the most grams of copper (92.7) is mislabeled, it is not Tempco but rather Royal Excelene.

RF ofc is awesome

My thing is this...I never needed much flexibility with my 1/0size wiring I avoid any design that need lots of twits and turns with ANY 1/0 wire but 8/12/10/16/14 yes flexibility is a must

Cool videos hi/fi bud, I run d,d wire tru o tinned ofc!!

That Flex Whip Orange ain't playing no games!

Great comparison, always un bias & fair testing. How about a fast food burger comparison 😂

Great job bro !!! MESA Wire is a Private Company !!! So which is your Favorite Real Og Wire ??? Since that Orange Welding cable was 2g

Stinger makes mesa..its usually found at install shops...have a few buddys who install and they told me about mesa..

Knukonceptz is the only wire that I use. There speaker wire is amazing as well!

This test makes me want to measure the " marine grade" cable I use. Unlike car audio stuff it actually has to meet a standard (UL 1426). Its not nearly as flexible, especially when cold. Fortunately it comes in a bunch of different spool sizes.

Mesa is a custom sounds wire kit

That welding cable is that k or m?..there is a difference.. Im sure its k They say it's tinned..melt the tin off I googled mesa 0 aught and found 4guage lol mesa

Oh hell, ofc death match!!!!! vega you do stay busy man.

What are you guy’s thoughts on the Kicker 0guage wire for 2 L7 15’s 4Ohms

on the last 1/0 video you tested 2/0 ewcs welding wire . in this video you tested memphis 0 gauge wich is a kit w/o rca costs $250 . i just ran 4/0 Gauge EWCS Brand 100% Copper Premium Industrial Grade Extra Flexible Welding Cable 600 Volt - 25 Feet Red that was on amazon for $158 . lets be honest this is the most bang for your buck . im in the middle of doing a el cheapo 160db set up in a explorer sport suv . i pulled the a/c and intalled a 220 amp 1 wire LActrical High Output Black Alternator $158 to 4/0 ewcs wire $158 to 4 Powermall 12V 100AH Sealed Rechargeable Deep Cycle Batterys $155 each . the box will be a tapped horn with 2 gonzo robot underground 18s with mack motors $444 each im building the box out of 3/4 grade a1 WALNUT PLYWOOD . next is what amp ? jp23 the new cab , gonzo 3k , or i found a soundstream xxx for $600 used

Just in time for my upgrade time

That flexwhip cable is sold out most places but you can find it on Ebay for about $128 for a 5' piece. I ended up ordering the Stinger wire for $197.99 plus tax $213 total for a 50' roll. Sky High wire is $259.95 so I got a decent value. I'm curious how much copper JL Audio 1/0 has since it's $500 for a 50' roll.

What about connex?

Yeah I picked up 2 boxes of skar cca speaker wire 12 & 14 gauge. It looks and feels nicer than most of my other speaker wire(Diablo, JC power, scoche, audiopipe,soundqubed, soundstorm plus some Walmart speaker wire and raptor from AutoZone) it's about as good as my orion cobalt. I'd say my knu konceptz & sky high is my favorite. Yeah I buy alot of temco products. I've gotta try their wire.

I want to ask you a repetitive question but it is one I have for the build I am doing as we speak? What do you recommend car audio branded wire or oversized welding cable for your power runs.

9:20 that wire is the same as 2/0 welding cable not 2 gauge. I have both.

I like the NVX wire kits.. Hope you check em out

I got excited when you brought out the Memphis wire. I bought 30’ of that 9 years ago and have been using it ever since in every big car audio setup. I guess if you have only had hamburger you think it’s great, until you try a sirloin steak. That’s my thought on the Memphis wire. It is ok wire but it appears as though it really doesn’t compare to others on the market now. Ohh, and I paid $10 a foot for it!!! But I owed my buddy so I didn’t mind paying MSRP for the wire. Thanks for the testing Rob!!!

Great video and update. I have a question, i have stinger pro 1/0 wire but it doesn't say ofc on it. It is not Stinger Select, it's the Pro and i can't find too much info on it, it looks just like the one you showed on the video and was wondering if it the same wire with different lettering. Thanks for the information man.

Shoot, I had some Kolossus Kable I should have sent to you. Very flexible stuff as well!

I recently purchased a Skar Big 3 wiring kit and was wondering would I be better off going with "SkyHigh" 1/0 gauge??

DEVIANT HAS ARRIVED. Before this starts, I hope u did some Project Farm type testing!!

Dean would be a great person to check with..

I’ll get you the price on the MESA TOMORROW THAT MEMPHIS WAS CRAZY

I believe Mesa wire is exclusive to certain audio shops

LOL... I wish I would've seen this video a month ago, when I started buying my amp kits... At first, I wanted to buy a full Recoil setup (PCK0 and PBG3 kits), but apparently they're eternally sold-out. My big 3 kit ended up being (presently) #12 on the cheat sheet, and unfortunately the full runs haven't been tested... Hopefully not too much farther down the list if it ever does... 😅

when it comes to wire pat said this - There's been some unsolicited promotion lately by, 'independent', reviewers about the benefits of OFC over CCA wire. The fact is that both are fine, it comes down to the capability of the wire and the application, (How you're going to use the wire). This applies both to it's use as speaker wire and power wire... And to throw a wrench into the machine, manufacturers are developing a new type of wire that has the heft of OFC but the capacity of CCA and costs half that of CCA. Last time I heard, it was the addition of tin, so now your wire will rust instead of just turning green. First off, let me debunk the 'testing' that's been going on in some of these videos. Several videos have the wire in coil, which makes for a big inductor.. Never a good idea to test wire this way. This is also not how wire is used when in the car or boat. First, I would use a standard length that's in a kit, say 16'. Second, identify both the wire's material and it's diameter. After that you can actually use a chart to determine what can be used before it affects both performance and your ability to inhale large amounts of toxic smoke. Don't worry about what is, 'spec', or what GA vs AWG mean. Look at the material, diameter and length. (By the way, in the wire industry there are three standards, China wire, Taiwan wire and American wire gauge. That addresses why one brand will say, 4ga and another will say 4ga but the actual wire diameter will be different. It has nothing to do with 'quality'. It has to do with different standards.) Second you have to look at how the wire is applied. Most standardized tests done are for an 'open air' test, meaning the wire is suspended in the air so that it can be cooled by methods of convection. Then on top of that, you have to calculate what the ambient air temperature affects it. Even more calculation if the air is moving, how fast it's moving, is it recirculating or is is coming in from a fresh source.. Just like when you want to cool your amp with a fan. But enough of all that, most of the applications used in car or boat audio are fine with CCA. All wire just has an ampacity. A capability to transfer current. For mobile audio, this is not constant power. It's pulsed which makes a big difference. On top of that, you'll see on many charts what the resistance of a certain gauge wire is at 1000'! That's a big difference than the 16' to 25' that you're using. These charts are up over 100A you can see no difference. Take into account that speaker wire is nowhere near that type of power and is it really that important to have 10 AWG OFC? No. The big push of OFC is in the profit margin vs CCA. The total volume and especially the margins of mobile audio have eroded significantly in the past 20 years. It's no wonder brands would pay to stage an 'independent test'. There's a good chunk of cash on the line, even after all the erosion. In the world of audio, they can even get away with paying people with just product for good reviews instead of the usual chubby envelope given to more 'reputable' sources like magazines. Do you really think people buy $10,000 cables? Ok, ok... An example of power application. Let's take the standard Taiwan spec 8ga CCA used by Metra in their Raptor line, (Just changed to 'full spec' this year). Not getting hot enough to melt the fuse, you can still use this with a crappy, standard AGU glass 60A fuse. This is plenty for most systems. It may even be cheaper and have a lower profile to use multiple strands of 8ga CCA. Of course each strand is good for up to 60A. For 4ga CCA from Raptor, we go up to 100A AGU fuse. Anything beyond that would require 2 or 0ga CCA or multiple runs. Also, I recommend to many clients that get the OFC bug, to just add another run of wire rather than pull out the 'bad' CCA and go all copper. The industry is again employing the snob tactic that you want to be superior over others. This of course only costs you more money, that those, "poor", or "crappy", type of people won't pay. I never agree with these tactics as they create small wars of "us vs them". Apple is famous for using this marketing strategy. In the end however, everyone of the unwashed masses remembers the way snobby people act and they always get taken down a notch or just taken out by an angry, poor mob. As for OFC, if you can get a good price on it, use it. It's not any better than CCA, it just has a greater ampacity than CCA when compared with all other things being equal. Most of the time people never even get close to the ampacity of what the wire can do. Now if you're competing and want to do hair tricks, that's a completely different story. Just because they use it on a $150k demo car, does not mean that you need it for your the single 10" sub you have in your '87 Crown Vic that your grandma left you. Use common sense, use Craigslist and always get more information than you need. Remember that when you buy retail, from a store, you're paying for that store. Nothing good or bad about that. Just remember that you're paying for the store plus product, plus mark-up robotunderground.blogspot.com/2013/

I think knukonceptz wire is the best, come with oversize compare to another brand and have a cheaper wire cca ( KCA ) super super oversize

Mesa high as F. I bought 6 foot of 4 awg wire the other day at a local dealer and it was $4.99 a foot. FOR 4 AWG MY GUY!

Dont the tinned wire conduct less electricity threw it then straight oxygen free non tinned wire?

What’s up Bro I am about to purchase some cable. I see you put the Tamco 2/0 cable on top. Would you recommend the 1/0 cable they offer ?

All I use for power and ground is welding cable. I have people try to argue against it, but how can you argue. It's cheaper, OFC, tends to have stronger jacketing, and it's usually true to size which means no fitment issues

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Very nicely done and very objective. Surprised that Stinger, didn't represent better. Is there any way a Sound deadening shootout is possible?

What's the advantage of tinned wire?

I use the Flex Whip made by Ultraflex. Not only does it have more copper its 99.9% pure copper. Plus the jacket is way more durable than regular car audio wire. I also weld with the Flex Whip.

What are the benefits to having a wire that is tinned ???? Here you mentioned if you need a wire that is tinned … No flex cable that is pure copper well that looks like copper that I know it looks better. Why is the silver stuff that you call Copper better or is it better

HiFi Vega coming in with a new video. I especially like it because it's not CCA.

Is the flex whip wielding cable ofc copper

I've never seen anybody review Russell wongs shok industries shok wire

Can you do something with RCA cables?

No KnuKonceptz?

Jeez I just got the skar 1/0 ofc kit I feel robbed lol 😂 damnit.

why would I NEED tinned wire? Corrosion?

HiFi lam pretty sure it is nickle plated or it should be nickle and not tin they use it for anti corrosion in marine apps PS great work

One of the best value for the money I have ever used imo is the conext link 2/0 on Amazon u can get 20ft for 80$ and it is a true 2/0 maybe even a little over sized which I don't prefer hard to get into connectors or use one size up and don't get a good crimp

That six to find out I paid 100 bux for the scar kit and its realy 2 gauge abs off wire

What’s the best amp wiring kit ??

No rockford cable? Tisk tisk

Why not test Sky High Car Audio wire

What is the benefit of tinned wire vs not?

M.E.S.A.= Mobile Electronics Specialist of America. Try Custom Sounds .com or Santa Fe Auto Sound or ebay. I believe it is made by the same people as Scoche.

Maybe I'll replace my 2/0 CCA

I think you're missing some big name brands

I've downloaded the pdf file lol

Try gpc wire its American made

Im using nothing but Sky High. Great vid tho. Very informative

So bottom line skar wiring kits are ass even if it says ofc