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The SmartCarb SC2 automatically compensates for altitude without changing jets, makes more power and uses less fuel in the process. But is it the best carburettor money can buy or better than a Lectron carb?
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@ChaosCauses
@ChaosCauses 2 года назад
Check out SmartCarbs website if you have any more questions- smartcarbfuelsystems.com
@pascalkargut3237
@pascalkargut3237 2 года назад
For an extra 700 dollars you could have just. Bough a fuel injected bike and not have to fuss around with all that stuff so is it really worth it
@pascalkargut3237
@pascalkargut3237 2 года назад
And you should see if you can do a bike review on an onyx motorbike
@pascalkargut3237
@pascalkargut3237 2 года назад
But great video though
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
@@pascalkargut3237 name any fuel injected dirt bike that is only $700 more than any Yamaha YZ new or used. There are many bikes in the world that aren’t fuel injected that have a lot of life left in them. This SmartCarb offers those riders fuel injection performance and consistency but with carburetor simplicity.
@jiedanloriaga8945
@jiedanloriaga8945 2 года назад
Can i have one? For free Jokes but it is a nice carb bro thanks for sharing
@TornadoCAN99
@TornadoCAN99 2 года назад
In the pre-FI era, it was common to use a Gunson Colortune see-thru sparkplug to visualize the colour of the fuel burning. You then tweak the carb mixture screw and or needle to get a nice blue hue for near ideal mixture. Too yellow means too rich, too white means too lean.
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 Год назад
First time I hear of that, definitely need to check that.
@jeanlawson9133
@jeanlawson9133 Год назад
Exactly I had bungs on my 302 SBC where I could view each exhaust Port...too achieve blue flames.... indexing plugs and length of wire timing... recurve air gap Etc..... Remember the race car called Blue Flame... AIN'T IT JUST AIN'T IT 😜 lols
@francislutz8027
@francislutz8027 Год назад
The ol color tune. I love when people in my motorcycle groups have problems with tuning and I mention the $35 color tune and they have no idea what I'm talking about
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Год назад
all that just for a computer to do all it way better
@Wouter-lf4gn
@Wouter-lf4gn Год назад
​@@ameunier41have one myself. Can recommend.
@romteb
@romteb 2 года назад
Those big claims about fuel economy and power need to be tested, i'm extremely skeptic
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
We agree. Third party testing and verification of our claims is something we welcome. Dirt Bike Magazine, Cycle News, EnduroPro, and most recently MotoVerde in Spain have all done tests and published articles about their results. Pros like Cody Webb, Diogo Vieira, Pol Tarrés, and more have all attested to the gains in power and economy in competition and we've had a hand in setting a number of land speed records with 5 new Bonneville speed records just this last July. Thank you for your interest, we hope you stay tuned.
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 2 года назад
I too find those hard to fathom, there are a number of reasons why 2 strokes are less fuel efficient, but the carburetor is not going to be the main one, if it's working correctly. Mikuni and Keihin have been making wonderful carburetors for many decades and while I'm not blinded to the idea that a different approach could have slight benefits, I do not believe that a properly tuned traditional carburetor is not going to produce almost the same results. Most 2 strokes come from the factory with a tune that is rich to keep engine internal temps down and provide longevity, stock carbs can be tuned accordingly for more power and reduced fuel consumption, but with risks to engine life.
@darkfire8615
@darkfire8615 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems this company is the goat
@sebaf2954
@sebaf2954 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems maybe something for Project Farm to try out
@davidrasmussen2975
@davidrasmussen2975 2 года назад
With only a low and high speed circuit, the mid range will be compromised. This is where fuel economy is usually the greatest due to engine design. The typical mikuni has three circuits in this size range so economy will typically be greater. Fuel injection atomizes fuel to a greater extent than a needle jet and is infinitely variable when has feedback loop.
@daos3300
@daos3300 2 года назад
the catch? the price, obv. as for planet killing - enthusiast bikers, classic car drivers etc. are not the problem. we're a quite sustainable drop in the ocean compared to the real problems.
@tomtemple69
@tomtemple69 Год назад
Yup, the government just loves to ruin any fun for anyone but doesn't touch the rich people who give them donations
@nowhere474
@nowhere474 Год назад
VOLCANIC ACTIVITY.
@jackandblaze5956
@jackandblaze5956 Год назад
Blowing up methane gas pipelines releasing 500,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere equivalent to 30 years worth of pollution from every car and motorcycle ever made might also be an issue.
@onefishtwofish7319
@onefishtwofish7319 Год назад
​@@jackandblaze5956look into ocean shipping. Each shipment wastes more gas than 100k cars will burn through in the entire lifecycle of the vehicle. Once you start doing numbers and adding them in different sectors you realize how wild it is that they want to tax us for driving cars "to save the planet". It's bullshit.
@FedkaSlovanich
@FedkaSlovanich Год назад
also a old car that gets 9mpg with 150k miles is alot better then a new car that gets 20mpg
@doubledragon5750
@doubledragon5750 2 года назад
Smart carb has the best customer service hands down. I reached out after buying one second hand. They helped me thru multiple detailed emails, to get it setup, knowing full on I bought the smartcarb used. Cleaned up the mid range huge on my YZ285 big bore.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro 2 года назад
Good video. I've been running the SC2 on my Sherco for close to a year now. I ride big elevation changes, one ride may be at 2000' and the next at 9000' so not having to make any adjustments and the increased fuel economy is huge for me. It's all the advantages of FI without the added complexity and still retains the performance and feel of a carb.
@NirHason
@NirHason 2 года назад
I really like your channel and my SC2 ;P
@ollie6512
@ollie6512 2 года назад
What kind of increase in fuel economy did you see?m
@mohamednaflan4361
@mohamednaflan4361 2 года назад
Does this carb work on any bike? I have a 180cc Indian bike.
@ShawnBlais
@ShawnBlais Год назад
@@ollie6512 You'll get about 30% more out of a tank, my TE300 does about 110km to a tank now, was about 85 or so before. Seems like the gains are reduced if you're doing lots of hill climbs though, but I haven't been able to measure that in any scientific way.
@matthewmoilanen787
@matthewmoilanen787 8 месяцев назад
There is no great carburetor feel. You are dreaming or have virtually zero knowledge of mechanical principles. Carbs provide no difference in "feel" except when the weather changes and the run worse. Fuel injection is "ALWAYS" superior to carburetion when tuned and is why manufacturers have virtually all went injected. You sound like all my fellow mechanics in the seventies when they said it was the end of the muscle car era. We currently have cars with more HP than was "ever" available in the 70s. Modern cars are more fuel efficient per HP, lighter, better handling, more dependable, quieter and more comfortable to drive. And not one of them has point style ignition, drum brakes and --- carburetors. 90% of guys could be handed two different bikes same size, everything but one has louder exhaust and you'd all say the loud one has more power. If you think carbs are better you also think that WWI, WWII, Spanish flue, the great stock market crash, the depression and polio are what made the good old days so good.
@joeduncan4427
@joeduncan4427 2 года назад
Have the SC2 on my 250 SX, thing was different right off the bat. Instead of being an uncontrolled powerhouse, my bike became gentle and easier to ride thus helping my lap times without losing any noticable power. Gas lasts me 1 week instead of 3 days. Def worth
@rickyprice2805
@rickyprice2805 2 года назад
250sx three wheeler?? I’m interested if so
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 2 года назад
Regarding those stripped screws on the Keihin, have you tried using a JIS screwdriver? Using a normal Phillips on JIS screws (like Japanese carbs) is a recipe for stripped screw-heads. They *look* the same but they aren't.
@Cheezeball99999
@Cheezeball99999 2 года назад
While I personally am aware of that.. *feature* , I don't feel like that's something we should have to deal with. A hex is a hex; if it fits, it fits. Philips/JIS screws suck. I used to hate flatheads, but after hacksaw-converting hundreds of stripped fasteners into flatheads, I definitely prefer them, or hex cap.
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 2 года назад
@@Cheezeball99999 socket head torx are cool especially the ones made of stainless steel.... Expensive but for the one time user and doer not a great expense at all for a single purpose equaling very cost effective.... And by pushing a few buttons on your smartphone will open up the world wide Web where all can be found.... eBay and Amazon's good place to start.... And if you have to you can find where the original manufacturers are located to buy directly from them if necessary..... Just saying I know where you're coming from as I used to work at a vintage Harley-Davidson restoration shop.... Where the motorcycles were previously adjusted and maintained from what looked like hammer and chisel work... And your job was to bring it back to life with modern day technology and performance that can be done for many many cubic dollars versus pounds of fun
@phrodendekia
@phrodendekia 2 года назад
@@donniebaker5984 I use Stihl bolts and screws wherever I can since I'm a Stihl tech 🤣 So T27, T25, T20 for me.
@robertbucknell6180
@robertbucknell6180 2 года назад
Nothing wrong with Japanese fasteners if you use the correct tools; Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) screwdrivers will remove those “Philips head” screws without damaging them. Use the wrong tool and you pay the price!
@randombuilds8336
@randombuilds8336 2 года назад
If you don't have a JIS screwdriver take a #2 phillips and sand the tip down until you get a perfect fit in the screws.
@chrisroberts908
@chrisroberts908 2 года назад
I have one on my KX500 and it was the best decision ever. Runs strong regardless of temp or altitude like they claim, starts easy, and always idles smooth and steady. Just up to you if you want to drop the $800. I'm glad I did.
@DoctorMotorcycle
@DoctorMotorcycle 2 года назад
The reason for this carb being "self adjusting" is the same thing that happens on a normal carb; the thinner air decreases the vacuum signal, less fuel comes from the float bowl, and the bike runs essentially normal. Often times, when you go UP in elevation, the only thing you need to do is increase idle speed a bit. I've gone from 1,800 feet to 8,000 feet on many different 2 strokes (with quad vent keihins and TPS's, I might add) and many different four strokes (CV style carbs found on LTZs, Predator 500's, FCR Carbs on 250/450f's, Mikuni VM's and TM's on my old school vintage bikes) and the only thing I've ever needed to adjust on the four strokes is the idle screw. The only carb's I've ever needed to change jets with to not foul plugs were 2-strokes with the Mikuni TMX 36's and 38's, which are notorious for being very finicky. Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand how having only 1 main form of adjustment from idle to over-rev is an advantage. If you want the ease of adjustment, use a Dial-a-Jet on a normal carb, and save yourself enough money to do the next 3 or four top end jobs, lol.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
The reason this carb compensates for changes in air density better than other carburetors is its use of a metering rod and integrated, internal float bowl venting. We've tested up to 22,000 feet on drone applications with very minimal variance in A/F ratios and we don't take into account the elevations that our customers ride at. No need for it. There's a difference between dialed fueling regardless of large changes in air density and getting by with good enough or not fouling plugs. The advantages of single circuit fueling is that there are no overlaps or transitions between multiple circuits. It's one continuous curve. Of course that does require having the correct fuel curve or metering rod grind installed and positioned. We make it as easy as possible for our customers by selecting the metering rod they need based on information about their setup, mods, fuels, etc and by positioning it for them, erring slightly rich. Most customers lean the rod out a few clicks using the top clicker and tweak the idle RPMs to their liking using the set screw and that's it. No further adjustments required.
@GingerNingerGames
@GingerNingerGames 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems how do them go in dual carb bikes? I might be interested in this just for the fuel saving on my daily. Though getting my mikunis tuned more than just by ear might help too
@steelavocado1
@steelavocado1 2 года назад
I don’t have a dirt bike, but on my street bikes, there is a lot needed to adjust a stock bike to altitude... I’ve brought many bikes from sea level to 5k feet and all of them run too rich. It requires minimal adjustment (either a needle or jet by one size or notch) it still needs it. Just my experience.
@keithpeterson3447
@keithpeterson3447 2 года назад
Save your money. These things are a waste of money.
@DoubleBogeyBaker
@DoubleBogeyBaker 2 года назад
@@GingerNingerGames you should never tune “by ear”. Always tune by what your spark plug is showing you. A carb with a metering rod like Lectrons are really night and day. When I built my drag banshee for 1/8th mile some years ago I switched to gas lectons, picked up a lot of ET. When I switched to methanol Lectrons, it was game over! I’ll never use anything but Lectron on any of my bikes
@Sanguine_Addiction
@Sanguine_Addiction 2 года назад
Installed my SmartCarb on my 2017 YZ250X a few weeks ago and it's a night & day difference from the stock carb. Incredible performance!
@maazahmed9077
@maazahmed9077 2 года назад
Just saw a video by fortnine explaining whether a carb is better or fuel injection. Would recommend.
@vipercraft4426
@vipercraft4426 2 года назад
Saw same video! It was good yes!
@kavemanthewoodbutcher
@kavemanthewoodbutcher 2 года назад
They do make a good argument, for both methods.
@motoboq9606
@motoboq9606 2 года назад
carb = more fat raw power down low from 1000k rpm up EFI= smooth economic power over 6-7k rpm up to red line. non is bbest or worst both are used for racing and dailies etc
@joshsevens9611
@joshsevens9611 2 года назад
Mostly fuel injection is more reliable than a carb and that's about it really
@kakiho6981
@kakiho6981 2 года назад
@@joshsevens9611 Remember that dirtbikes may be the exact example where the carb is more reliable.
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 2 года назад
The PWK is a great carb, I have a worked KTM 380, I had to bore the carb out to 39.5mm from the stock 38mm so I could jet it. I like having 6 adjustment points with the PWK, it took some messing about, a number of different needle tapers etc but the bike is now crisp everywhere over the throttle range.
@jamesstewart8424
@jamesstewart8424 Год назад
I thought the 380 had a 39mm
@jamesstewart8424
@jamesstewart8424 Год назад
I thought the 380 had a 39mm
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 2 года назад
The British SU carburettor uses a metering needle that can be tuned by choosing a different taper or filing a flat on part of the needle. SU has a butterfly valve and constant velocity slide. David Vizard gas flowed the 1.25” to flow the same as 1.5”. There are some tips but it worked very well indeed. Biggest issue for altitude is the relatively narrow range of mixture adjustment for any particular needle. Saying that you can use an old style choke control to raise and lower the main jet. Set it half way for low altitude, full high for high altitude or full low for cold start.
@katywalker8322
@katywalker8322 2 года назад
Most slide carbs can be adjusted by changing the needle. For example Dellorto list loads of different needles for their carbs. Pain and expensive to keep buying and swapping them - there are ~100 choices just for the K type needle and they are ~£12 each.
@Caluma122
@Caluma122 2 года назад
@@katywalker8322 My life right now :p
@garyhoward2490
@garyhoward2490 Год назад
About 10 yeats ago, I bought a 2002 KTM 520 exc, from the original owner. He was/is definately a tinkerer. He was a Canadian guy, who had relocated to SoCal. He was also, big into snowmobiles. The 520 was pristine! He had added a device, known as a dial-a-jet to it. Apparently this is a common mod to snowmobiles.???? I had no prior knowledge of it. He had it all set up, and gave me the manual for the dial-a-jet. After reading, and understanding the unit, I just rode the bike and still do...a lot. Even in very low temperatures, I never have to use the choke! Even first thing in the morning! I have ridden the bike at aea level, or below, and at 9000' elevation. 1 or 2 "clicks" on the dial-a-jet adjuster is all it takes. Incredible! Has anyone else had experience with these?
@TheSnuggs01
@TheSnuggs01 2 года назад
Great carbs, I imported one in 2014 & fitted it on my KX500, Corey from APT assisted me with the setup and it was quite straight forward. I did the quads4quads run from Carnival City down to Ballito without any issues related to the altitude changes. It’s worth the money. Great episode man, I recognized Rhino Park straight away.🤣
@johnlopez9420
@johnlopez9420 Год назад
I had to double take when I saw the NP200, then noticed Rhino Park 🤣
@eweunkettles8207
@eweunkettles8207 2 года назад
one of the great tuners descibed carburation as a controlled fuel leak i have a delloto 40mm pumper on my racing norton with an adjustable main jet a needle moving in and out of an oversized main jet via a threaded drain nut with a gland rotated by an old rev counter cable alongside the tank a long hill is needed turn the knob with wot till the motor comes on song then close the throttle a wee bit if the motor momertarily speeds up its weak so another half turn or so and its bang on then its needle /slde/pilot / cut away for the rest of the range binks made some fantastic carbs in the 20s notable the Rat trap with d shaped port and long reed type throttle plate full bore or nothing
@murraykriner9425
@murraykriner9425 2 года назад
Appears to be a good solution for many who aren't into cleaning or tuning the average carb for their motorcycle. Thanks.
@hoonaticbloggs5402
@hoonaticbloggs5402 2 года назад
Yea, a dumb carb
@jmhofmeyr
@jmhofmeyr 2 года назад
Just discovered this channel sitting in PTA...great channel and great carb...love that someone is improving the high maintenance design.
@Kashak666
@Kashak666 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing (Also, there is a difference between Phillips and JIS screws. dot on the head means Japanese Industry Standard or something like it. Its a good upgrade to the workshop to get a set of JIS screwdrivers))
@ekimandersom4478
@ekimandersom4478 2 года назад
Nobody cares dude
@diavolorosso69
@diavolorosso69 2 года назад
@@ekimandersom4478 People that strip the screws on their carb care, "dude"
@edbennett8257
@edbennett8257 2 года назад
Holley came out with a carb for Harleys using this exact concept, flat sided needle and all. They called it QuikSilver. I have one on my shelf of shame along with a bunch of other carbs. In the beginning, after getting it tuned in, it seemed to be a very good carb. The main problem was that after a year or so of running it became almost impossible to keep running right due to internal wear in the carb body and slide, and in the needle bore. Replaced it with an S&S Super E and the bike has been running perfectly for over a decade. I don't think they lasted long on the market. Of course, this is a new manufacturer, and maybe they've overcome the wear issues.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
Edelbrock, not Holley, QwikSilver, not QuikSilver, and by directive and inspiration of original metering rod carburetor concept inventor William Edmonston, the culmination of his efforts being the SmartCarb. Our SC2 models are all CNC billet aircraft aluminum construction with hard anodized billet throttle slides. Much more durable.
@edbennett8257
@edbennett8257 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems Ok, I stand corrected, I got the company and trademark name spelling wrong, so sue me, LOL. I was just trying to provide some background on the tech that is being touted here as somehow new. What exactly is different between your carb and Lectron or XTNG carbs? I'm relatively sure that all of Edmonston's patents have expired by now. Probably also those assigned to, I'm assuming, his son Micheal. OH, BTW, one of the other carbs on my shelf of shame is an original Edvac carb. Designed by Edmonston for aircraft use, with no float bowl. The fuel passage to the needle bore goes directly from the inlet to the bore, through a tapered needle valve controlled by a cable from the instrument panel. Supposedly the idea was to control mixture at various altitudes with the needle valve to maintain stoich by watching EGT readings. I tried to run it on a Bonneville race bike my manually adjusting based on AFR readings. Didn't work too well for me in the long run, but ran like heck right before I locked it up, LOL.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
@@edbennett8257 no problem, we're happy to keep the story straight. Some of the tech in use with the SmartCarb was developed in prior metering rod carburetor iterations including the QwikSilver and the even earlier Lectron, and some of the tech in use is new and patented by us. The main differences between the SmartCarb and the Lectron and XTNG (Lectron clone) are the SmartCarb's internal, integrated float bowl venting feature (patented), the use of a single circuit (metering rod) to cover the entire throttle range with no power jet or other circuits required, the variable throttle rate venturi shape (the process by which that shape is defined being patented), full external adjustability without tools, and a TPS option. Both Lectron's new Billetron 38 and the 38mm XTNG are 4mm smaller than implied or advertised at 34mm whereas SmartCarbs are true to size if not slightly over. Check out the SmartCarb vs Lectron article on our website for more information. Very curious about the Edvac. We're pulling together a collection of all earlier Edmonston designed/inspired carburetors starting with the Posa-Fuel and are willing to pay well for clean examples. Reach out if that may be of interest to you.
@edbennett8257
@edbennett8257 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems I'm in Kansas City. I could bring it to your Raytown location some day if you'd like to check it out. I also have an EI carb, another iteration of the same concept by Edmonston.
@harolddalesr8365
@harolddalesr8365 Год назад
Yes , I recall that Harley Davidson did come out with a carb of this concept
@NirHason
@NirHason 2 года назад
That was a very well mdare video, mate! I'm running the SC2 on my KTM 300 EXC 2017 for the last 2.5 years and that's the best thing I did for my bike (along with the suspension).
@michaelcaddell8520
@michaelcaddell8520 2 года назад
I'm so glad my 150 came with this carb. It's so simple and the bike runs so clean.
@kavemanthewoodbutcher
@kavemanthewoodbutcher 2 года назад
Brilliant! An innovation as simple as the carburetor itself! The moment I saw it I under stood it, the complexity lies in the profile of the metering rod, which disappears as well once the maths are worked out.
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 11 месяцев назад
i bet you dont understand it at all ;)
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 2 года назад
Thank you for your video, I had never heard of this device before and found it very interesting (as a former motorcycle mechanic). It's good to see that companies are investing in developments that benefit the rider, their motorcycle and are less polluting whilst giving greater fuel range and power.
@moretrash4you
@moretrash4you 2 года назад
Carful reading all these paid comments
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 2 года назад
@@moretrash4you The only 'paid' aspect in my post is that I paid attention whilst writing it! Please post any actual evidence that you have to support your allegations.
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 2 года назад
Having worked with carburetors for 40+ years, I found the SC2 concept to be very interesting. However the only feature that would be beneficial to myself would be the ability to easily adjust for altitude. On a single cylinder, single carb engine, the rest of the tuning is so easily done that it wouldn't be of any real benefit, regarding getting a base setting. When I'm working on a bank of 4 carburetors, then I'm always wondering why there isn't a simpler way as the carburetors have to be removed and replaced several times over as the various circuits are tuned, although that's only really a chore when you have a none standard set up in terms of the engine modifications and different carburetors, so you do not have a stock factory setting to work from. If you are racing then I guess the real crunch is whether the design really gives you all that extra power over a properly tuned stock carburetor, many 2 stokes are setup from the factory to run somewhat rich for engine longevity, rather than all out power and fuel efficiency.
@haydenroyer
@haydenroyer 2 года назад
So you just explained it yourself that, this product Is beneficial on 99% of the platforms its swapped into! Outside of whatever circles your forming, this is beneficial! Who is out here fully constructing a motor from scratch, and does so without doing any prior research to atleast have a basis or point to start from? Come on man, quit bashing! Also, please explain wtf you said in your comment? (Pls don't take my cursing or short temperament as aggression or hate etc directed at you personally)
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 2 года назад
@@haydenroyer When I see some back to back dyno tests with a properly tuned stock carb, vs the SC2 I'll be happy to accept the results, but for now I find it really hard to believe the SC2 can provide drastically better results for anyone, beyond someone whose original carb is either having issues or was never tuned correctly, you can't change the laws of physics. Q: "Who is out here fully constructing a motor from scratch, and does so without doing any prior research to at least have a basis or point to start from?" A: Anyone who has a custom engine setup, my 78 Kawasaki has a big bore kit with high compression pistons and 28mm carbs instead of 26mm from a later model. I bought it that way, the previous owner never had it running correctly. It proved the most challenging set up to tune perfectly, I've worked with so far, as there was no stock starting point and the PO had got it jetted all over the place.
@nathandyess5310
@nathandyess5310 2 года назад
@@fiveowaf454 you're right - you can't change the laws of physics. It's the symphony of the spheres so to speak. But you can work with physics better and in a fuel system like this it comes down to fine control of both air and fuel metering, mixing that air and fuel as homogeneously as possible, all while atomizing that fuel to as fine a degree as possible (increasing surface area and therefore maximizing combustion efficiency) through the entire throttle range. The SmartCarb does just that with its metering rod handling fueling through the entire range without jets or power jets providing sub-optimal atomization. The dyno charts are available on SmartCarb's social media channels and soon more of their website blog posts now that they've acquired an in-house dyno. Stay tuned.
@1crazypj
@1crazypj 2 года назад
@@fiveowaf454 I'm with you on this. I spent years working on modified motors and either swapping to larger carbs or learning how to modify stock carbs to perform 'properly' with modified engines. The 'Cafe Racer' fad of 10~12 years ago still gives me a bit of work as many people want to ditch stock air-box for 'the look' (although only one or two a year now instead of one or two a week) Whatever, the 'advances' over a Lectron seems to be a low speed circuit which the Lectron always needed for anything other than drag strip use
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 2 года назад
@@nathandyess5310 I still can't help think that companies like Mikuni and Keihin have ample experience, resources and development time in their products, that they are not leaving loads of horsepower or efficiency on the table for someone else to suddenly find. As I've said I'll believe it when I see hard data that shows me the SC2 can outperform a properly set up "traditional" carburetor.
@peterhallbus1114
@peterhallbus1114 2 года назад
I think you missed the biggest problem, they are expensive, would love to try one out since I ride summer as winter up in sweden and need to rejet my carb 2 times a year, but for me the sc2 cost twice the price of my bike ;)
@GeorgeTsiros
@GeorgeTsiros 2 года назад
it's easily the most important part of a motorcycle drivetrain
@poorwhiteboy6521
@poorwhiteboy6521 2 года назад
I have same carb on my bike ride one time has lots more power then my mukuni had. Runs great at 3 to 5 clicks leaner. Still trying to get mine to idle as well. Revs great sounds great so smooth very good improvements over stock carbs 👍
@jimciancio9005
@jimciancio9005 2 года назад
Nice! It's about time they've taken a step in a different direction besides the plain Jane same old carburetor and changed the internals more than just the shape of the damn slides! It's about time and long overdue especially for the same fact you bring in up in the video, "the whole ripping a carb apart to tune it" part! Nothing's more frustrating than losing your E clip for the needle in dirt or grass! Can't say how many times it's happened before, but more than I'd like to think about! That's absolutely awesome stuff! Dial tuning just like an adjustable jet use to be. I have a personal problem with fixed jet sizes and have always wondered why? Outside it makes them tamper proof I guess and once it's set up with the right size it's good. VERY very annoying Stuff when you made engine or altitude changes and need more or less fuel! Wow really outside of fuel injection BS, which is OK, you just do not make the same power nor have the same throttle response with FI as opposed to a carb, sorry I've had plenty of experience with both and hands down a carb on the same exact engine will produce a few more HP and the throttle response is instantaneous due to the fact a sensor needs to send a computer the input signals, thus calculate how it needs to be changed, then sent back to the injector and or butterfly valve if it's fly by wire, this all in reality takes nano second's I'm sure to all do? BUT it is a noticeable difference and the dynos don't lie either about fuel injection VS carbs the HP is always a little better on the carbed engine's no matter what it is, doesn't really make sense how a crude mixing valve is capable of creating more power over a computer controlled system??? BUT it's known fact in the engine world, but it's what you gain in ease or startup running and self adjustments, I guess you pay for in a few HP, which really isn't a bad swap....... Very cool Bro, thanks for making this video, never heard of these until now thanks to you, will definitely be checking into one now!
@streetwiseburger
@streetwiseburger 2 года назад
Great upload as always! Repack your silencer, do a video on it while your at it. Mikuni/Keihin use JIS screws, much better than Phillips type.
@Yoda8945
@Yoda8945 2 года назад
And that is why those screws are stripped. Somebody used a Philips screwdriver on it.
@KPMACHINE1
@KPMACHINE1 2 года назад
I’ve been running lectron on a 16 ktm300. It is amazing how awesome it works. I do like the easy adjustability the SC2 provides. Once $ does permit I will try one out. Thanks for the great video.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 2 года назад
Good video, there's more info in your video than on the Smart Carb's own channel. Still waiting for a dyno run and some actual numbers from them after 18 months. In Australia, the cost of the SC2 would buy engine upgrades and a tune. Can't wait to go efi 2 stroke on my own bike 👌
@marvinwaldo32
@marvinwaldo32 2 года назад
Good comment ! Buy a book tune your stock Carb Save Money !!!
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 2 года назад
@@marvinwaldo32 My Keihin runs really well was about $50 worth of jets. That said, I don't ride variable altitudes or conditions much so I can leave my settings along mostly. The SC2 is attractive for people who want to just leave it alone and ride, and also has the benifit of being able to to lie the bike down without draining fuel everywhere. The Smart Carb is just too expensive in Australia to be an option. Really just want an EFI Sherco 🙂👌
@numbzinger350
@numbzinger350 Год назад
It's funny you'd mention the lack of a dyno run on their website. They had a pissing match with Keith Peterson on a previous thread started by DoctorMotorcycle and asked him to post his dyno runs. Neither has put up anything but I'd think that after 11 months something would have been posted on SC's website. If they have already done it then I missed it. Until I see overwhelming proof of the SC's performance vs stock then I'll stick the the Keihin PWK on my '23 YZ125X and save my money for a JD jet kit, plugs, and enough fuel to learn how to properly jet the dang thing myself.
@andymiller5611
@andymiller5611 Год назад
A very informative and educational video dude, done in an easy to understand manner! Well done! 🍻🤘💜
@loganmilliner8734
@loganmilliner8734 2 года назад
I'm curious if this would work for 4 stroke engines as well, or is it possible to make a rack of them for an inline 4 bike. And what about boosted applications?
@ChaosCauses
@ChaosCauses 2 года назад
Yes, definitely possible! I just used one for the 2-stroke since that’s the bike I have. Works with turbos too. Incredible carb!
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
Same question I have, I highly suggest to go to the SmartCarb website (link in description of of this video), leave your contact info (email), and they should email you back with details. Hopefully if enough people inquire about it: 1. We'll find out that the SC2 can be rigged up to a 4-Stroke road going bike, OR 2. They'll see that there's a community out there wanting this for street motorcycles and make an SC3 or such.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
@@MrCODEmaster00 we'll keep an eye out for your email inquiry and get back to you as soon as we can. Our focus has primarily been on the 2-stroke market as that is our riding passion, but we do recognize the needs elsewhere and are growing to serve them. We have equipped 4-stroke bikes with excellent results for years, provided they will fit with a single, top-pull throttle cable. And as for boosted applications, well, we did just play a part in securing 5 new Bonneville Speed Records in July on a turbocharged YZ125/144 in an R6 chassis. Cheers!
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems Thank you for the response, may I ask for directions to see if/what SC2 carb will fit a stock-engine CMX250 (Honda Rebel 250cc, 2005 Year)? Only thing I found was the tool to see what 2-Strokes it's compatible with, do you have a similar thing for 4-Strokes to find out what specific model/size of carb I'd need?
@yveslegrand9826
@yveslegrand9826 2 года назад
700+ dollars for one...it will cost about the price of a new engine... And adjusting 4 carbs is just a pain...
@TheMadManPlace
@TheMadManPlace 2 года назад
This type of carb has been around since the early 70's (rod vs needle) BUT they were VERY expensive and almost impossible to tune because a complete stripdown was needed to make any sort of adjustment. I'm glad to see that someone has made it a lot more user friendly because the old type performed extremely well once you had gotten the setup dialed in but the difficulties simply made it a non-starter.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
1967 actually with the Posa-Fuel. After that there was the Lake Injector, Lectron, Ei Blue Magnum, the QwikSilvers, and ultimately the SmartCarb which offers all of the performance benefits of metering rod fueling with super easy external adjustability.
@MadBiker77
@MadBiker77 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems think Ron Gardner of Gardner Carbs came out with it before 1967, i have a lot of his prototypes from the late 1950's sat around.
@krzysswiston1026
@krzysswiston1026 2 года назад
Man, I do not even have bike, yet wached full movie and enjoyed as F..😃 cool stuff this smart carb. And well made movie
@MikeDLees
@MikeDLees 2 года назад
Your videos are excellent. Very professional. Nice job !!
@derrickanderson2783
@derrickanderson2783 2 года назад
Cool video! I'm currently rockin' a Sherco 300 FST trials and it would be so intersting to see how the SC2 would do at a Utah competition with lower revs, lower compression, and slower speeds.
@prmafrozt2943
@prmafrozt2943 Год назад
I think this design could be adapted to an automotive application. If I was a designer, I’d start with something like a 2 barrel or 4 barrel design usually seen in a classic American car, since they’re so common.
@ryzae6202
@ryzae6202 Год назад
They've done this for ages.
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Год назад
on a car you go EFI if you want power
@t_ag
@t_ag 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing this. I didn't know that it existed. I like that it doesn't have needles, but I wouldn't consider adding it to my fuel injection street bike (if it was possible). I see it much more useful for your type of situation.
@SkitPete
@SkitPete 2 года назад
Hhawu! Mfwethu. Ilana eMzansi?? Ur channel and presentation is so international...I thought ur like a Texan with his own track in the backyard, just speaking like a Dutch Austrian. Great bro, all the best
@Theupstateidiots
@Theupstateidiots 2 года назад
That's a crazy price tag to upgrade. I will say the technology is cool, and I'd run it. But not for that much, and they limited to two stroke bikes. They'd have a lot of opportunities to make money on 4 strokes, and ATVs if they got in to it I think. especially people with older warriors and stuff that they no longer produce oem parts for. The aftermarket just isn't as good.
@kidsalex13
@kidsalex13 2 года назад
i was thinking the same thing, id love to upgrade my 4 stroke, but not for $600
@Theupstateidiots
@Theupstateidiots 2 года назад
@@kidsalex13 there is other aftermarket smart carb options I have found. Pricey still.
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 Год назад
This technology would be amazing for the adventure segment, going across a variety of altitudes without wanting to change carb jetting. I was on their website, just about to buy one, when I realized they only make them for motocross 2-strokes. What a bummer. It doesn't even make sense when motocross bikes won't even be used at high altitudes.
@Theupstateidiots
@Theupstateidiots Год назад
@@theyeetus1428 I do think there is some other companies that make them for different machines.
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 Год назад
@@Theupstateidiots Do you recall the names of those companies?
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 2 года назад
Can I get one for my mower? It's a horizontal Briggs Vanguard 29 hp big block. I mow for a living so more power, better efficiency, cleaner burning would make a big difference in the long haul.
@mattroman5076
@mattroman5076 2 года назад
Edelbrock had these years ago called a quicksilver...kind of a pain.. Tons of different rods,and real time tuning was a nightmare. Exact same setup
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
Nope, not the same. The missing link was internal, integrated float bowl venting, a patented feature of the SmartCarb. It communicates the same air density into the float bowl that the venturi sees (not external vent lines in front of the rear wheel) along with velocity of that airflow, proportionally, to drive fuel flow both ways. Progress. By the way the QwickSilvers were direct predecessors to the SmartCarb. Same inventor. Just needed time to learn and improve.
@chuckfry1227
@chuckfry1227 2 года назад
I have two Xr650r’s both equipped with quick silvers. Once the right metering rod is installed the carbs have not been touched in 4 years. A brilliant carb with a simple design and a pumper to boot. I’ll keep what I have, thanks anyways.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
@@chuckfry1227 happy riding!
@cmb7481
@cmb7481 2 года назад
Edelbrock carbs are like this too. Many people don't like them - I think they are GREAT!!!!!! It's the super pumper carb!!
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
The Edelbrock QwikSilver carbs were a predecessor to the SmartCarb and they were the first to introduce the top clicker adjuster for changing the metering rod position 👍
@chuckfry1227
@chuckfry1227 2 года назад
I own 3 Edelbrocks and I have not seen any carb that is even comparable. Yes super pumper indeed. My 2 XR650R’s love them period.
@KTOTAMHAX
@KTOTAMHAX 2 года назад
3:27 fuel filter wrong orientation))) 4:03 - this right)))
@boltonky
@boltonky 2 года назад
Ease of use vs cost is always a big thing especially if your not inclined to learn how to tune/fix your own bike/cars. I have always wanted to try one but can't justify the cost at $1500nzd when i can barely feed myself, i will stick to changing jets and having a cry (although knowing how to read spark plugs and a lambda sensor are handy) Thanks for upload :)
@MXRiderFiftyTwo
@MXRiderFiftyTwo Год назад
$1500 is a lot of coin. But you can always take it off once you sell the bike
@jferackjr
@jferackjr 2 года назад
I had a edelbrock carb that functioned the same. Metering rod and a red screw on top.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
Yep, the Edelbrock QwikSilvers were predecessors to the SmartCarb and they saw the introduction of the clicker on top. Different function though in some key ways. SmartCarbs internally vent their float bowls and utilize a non-round, variable throttle rate venturi profile, among other differences. There's a long history behind the metering rod carburetor concept.
@ripmesomewelfarechecksandc9203
@ripmesomewelfarechecksandc9203 2 года назад
For single cylinder engines carburetors are superior. Change my mind BRAAAPPPP
@priyag6806
@priyag6806 2 года назад
But can it work on a old carb motorcycle with no electronics or anything smart like throttle position sensor
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
I sent a message to SmartCarb's contact email wondering the same thing, I have a 2005 Honda Rebel 250cc, and I'd *LOVE* to: 1. Replace a carb that I have no clue how to tune/repair if need be. 2. Get a better carb than what I have now. 3. Make it even more fuel-efficient just as a happy accident.
@Andrea_eTi
@Andrea_eTi 2 года назад
@@MrCODEmaster00 let us know
@osiris07lv
@osiris07lv 2 года назад
You can get the carb with or without a throttle position sensor.
@Yoda8945
@Yoda8945 2 года назад
If you are sick of stripping Philips screws, it is because those are not Philips screws on that Keihin Carb. They are JIS and a Phillips screwdriver does just that. Excellent video. I would really like to see some actual dyno information though.
@roocrew86
@roocrew86 2 года назад
So it's basically a SU carb for a motorbike Thats not a bad thing, I did a draw though turbo setup with a SU carb and it worked brilliantly Those style carbs are fantastic
@sidecarbod1441
@sidecarbod1441 2 года назад
Its NOT an SU carb, the slide on this carb is controlled by the rider, on an SU carb the slide is controlled by the vacuum created by the engine. Furthermore the needle in an SU carb is like the needle in most other carbs, it has a round cross section, the Smart carb's needle is not even called a needle as it is not round, hence the term metering rod.
@OrestisRovakis
@OrestisRovakis 11 месяцев назад
The best way to tell if the carb is correctly tuned is the spark plug. If you want to be on the safe side you can check your spark plug after the first 15min of ride. According to you mixture and gasoline it may need minor changes. We used to do that when go Karting. Remember when it's leaner it goes faster so it may trick you.
@gnagsaar_
@gnagsaar_ 2 года назад
When they make advertisment look like a review 😆 Atleast smartcarb finally understod that they need to pay off a few youtubers to keep up with Lectron.
@RGV2300
@RGV2300 2 года назад
You should have mention the throttle body design, as the conventional flap/butterfly design doesn't provide a linear curve of intake air (air being swallowed by the engine), it is more like a quadratic one, which you remove almost the whole air restriction at less than 90 degrees opening. This new design provides an exact intake area (because it is like a slider gate), so at 100% opening throttle body, you'll have 100% of the area available to suck air. Not that i have one or even tested it, but just by how it looks, it seems to me that provides an exact AFR the whole time, after a proper calibration of course.
@TwistedTriggerEnduro
@TwistedTriggerEnduro 2 года назад
Thanks for taking us along on your journey. Good trouble shooting and wise to seek advice like you did. 💪👍
@daviddobeson7509
@daviddobeson7509 Год назад
Thanks to Smart Carb for explaining the differences between SC2 and SU carbs. I was completely wrong. A "superior SC2" metering rod is in no way like an SU metering needle with one side machined off. The SC2 has a flat slide raised by the throttle cable and the SU has a cylindrical slide raised by the vacuum in the venturi. Again; no similarity. The SC2 has an integrated float bowl and SU only used this from 1972. AND the SC2 passes EPA tier2 emissions on PER MILE on 4 strokes. This is obviously very difficult for a small bike compared to a 90's small car. Congratulations. Dave D
@karl6823
@karl6823 Год назад
I just want to thank you for doing this video. I’ve been in the market for a carburetor for a while, and I was not sold on lectron. I’m definitely going to contact smart carb😎
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems Год назад
Reach out anytime. If we have a kit/solution for you we'll gladly set you up. What do you ride?
@megapet777
@megapet777 2 года назад
The smartcarb looks really nice and clean. Imagine having it in a CR 500 :D
@davidwagner2280
@davidwagner2280 2 года назад
I have a lectron on my cr500 and it is night and day from the original carb. There have been a few guys that have tried running the first smartcarb with no luck on the cr500s but haven't heard of anyone trying one of these yet.
@megapet777
@megapet777 2 года назад
@@davidwagner2280 oh interesting
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
You don’t have to imagine it. We’ve equipped hundreds of them with the new SC2 model SmartCarb. We recommend the 38mm size. And like the YZ here a trim inside the airboot is required for proper function.
@megapet777
@megapet777 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems Nice :o
@wheels-n-tires1846
@wheels-n-tires1846 2 года назад
Im picturing it on my 85 ATC250R...hmmmm....
@mrc4912
@mrc4912 Год назад
Just on the surface, it looks like the old air valve carburetor design, such as SU carbs that were used on many vintage European and Japanese performance cars and roadsters. There's a damper chamber filled with fluid (light oil) that delays the rise of the air piston when the throttle is opened, hence eliminating the need for a power jet. The main jet has a tapered needle that admits more or less fuel depending on the throttle pressure. The type of fluid used in the damper chamber is an area for exploration and one of my favorites was brake fluid....
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems Год назад
Dig a little deeper and you'll find that the SmartCarb is a directly throttled flat slide carburetor. Integrated venting isn't used for throttling, but rather proportional fuel delivery for wider elevation/temperature changes. The SmartCarb is the only carb using both at-manifold air density but also velocity for fuel flow and that is why it works without any secondary circuits besides the metering rod.
@midlifeduck7040
@midlifeduck7040 2 года назад
I'm wondering if they do smart carbs for cruisers. I'm always looking for a way to get better gas mileage. An helping the environment even if just a little is a good thing in my book
@ChaosCauses
@ChaosCauses 2 года назад
Absolutely! Check out their website
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
I have seen comments like this a lot, please go to the SmartCarb website (top link in the video description) and scroll down, leave your email contact info and letting them know you're curious if the SC2 _could_ be fitted to a street motorcycle that's 4-Stroke and we'll either: 1. Find out if it's possible to rig it to a 4-Stroke road going motorcycle *OR* 2. Hopefully they'll make an "SC3" or such for this purpose.
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
@@ChaosCauses I love that you reply to comments, but I must ask. Where do you see it for street bikes? I go to their website, and click on "Shop", and only thing there is 2-Strokes. If they do have them for 4-Stroke road-going motorcycles they have done an impressive job at making it hard to find. Edit: thank you for any response you have to this.
@3v068
@3v068 Год назад
This is beautiful. I love building mini bikes and go karts out of Predator and other small generator engines. This could be a game changer for us since we dont need to need to worry about jets or such. This is a fantastic product.
@Cj-yw8cs
@Cj-yw8cs Год назад
Did you try it? Does it work for 4 strokes? The message I got was a 2 stroke able carb. Will it work for a 60 year old bike?
@3v068
@3v068 Год назад
@@Cj-yw8cs I havent, but I dont think there would be any issue trying to fit this onto a two stroke. As long as you have a good oil mix, or an oil feeding system in the engine, you should be good to go with no issues. 2 stroke carbs and 4 stroke carbs arent THAT different from each other, and this one is honestly simpler.
@3v068
@3v068 Год назад
@@Cj-yw8cs and to add onto that, if you go to their website, they have 2 stroke options as well if you wanted to get one for a specific bike.
@Cj-yw8cs
@Cj-yw8cs Год назад
@@3v068 the bike used in the video is a 2 stroke. The website will probably not have info on my machine. The joy of old oddball motorcycles
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 2 года назад
I want four for my Nissan truck now. Best yt video this year. Probably.
@HPRaceDevelopment
@HPRaceDevelopment 2 года назад
Imagine adding individual circuits so you can tune each one independently... "no jets" is just a word play. Jetting refers to fueling - and the other carbs using no jets also requiring fueling adjustments.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
Imagine not having multiple circuits that need independently adjusted... or a carburetor that drives fuel flow proportional to air density from inside of the airbox instead of in front of the rear tire, one that also drives fuel flow proportional to that airflow's velocity right at the manifold. Those features preclude the need for multiple circuits and largely define what a SmartCarb is. Every carb requires adjustments. There's too many variables affecting it from engine health changing over time, modifications, fuel selection, rider preference for different riding conditions, etc. The difference is that these carbs greatly mitigate the adjustment requirement for air density changes. A carb that's dialed is a carb performing at its best. Conventional carbs with jets, and we all know what we mean when we say "no jets," do not stay dialed for even moderate changes in air density, changes that take them out of optimum tune. Furthermore, SmartCarb adjustments, if even required, are made externally, by hand, without tools, in seconds.
@HPRaceDevelopment
@HPRaceDevelopment 2 года назад
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems still wating on my 10-15 percent power and improved bsfc
@evr-mr3cp
@evr-mr3cp 2 года назад
🍿😎
@lappieslabuschagne2428
@lappieslabuschagne2428 Год назад
Im retired bike mech and prefer carbs way above fuel injection . Simpler, cheaper , way easier to fix and more reliable and above all it gives you full performance. No need for mappings and that sort of crap. Once jetted and tuned correctly it remains tuned. Bottom line , I'll choose carbs 10 times out or 10.
@cxbra
@cxbra Год назад
Im def a Keihin guy. I pretty much try to leave the idle and air/screw in the same spot and might go down a jet smaller in summer (less dense air makes it run rich) and one size up in jet in the winter. My bike came extremely rich from the guy I bought it from since he was at much less elevation than I am. I felt like a king that ive learned how to tune my Keihin.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems Год назад
You're exactly the type of customer we look for: Informed. If you should look to not only removing jetting from the equation, but also increasing fuel economy, enjoying greater, yet more linear power delivery throughout, zero fuel spillage, and tool-free carb adjustments for extreme/seasonal elevation/temp changes, we have you covered.
@mftuning2891
@mftuning2891 Год назад
700$ for a carb. No thanks.
@anthonyarmstrong9508
@anthonyarmstrong9508 2 года назад
@ 0:31 Man says to smart speaker," computer, when is a good day to ride?" The smart speaker replied," everyday is a good day to ride." LMAO, I love that clip scene. 😂
@elliothickle3247
@elliothickle3247 2 года назад
While this seems like a cool adjustable carb I didn't see any features that could even remotely classify this as a "smart carb". I was really hoping for a smart carb that could automatically adjust like we have come to expect from their fuel injecting counterparts. A "Smart Carb" should include pressure and temperature sensors for intake and atmospheric conditions as well as a micro processer to monitor/calculate optimal settings and a stepper motor to adjust the screw position accordingly. Maybe a better name for the product would be "Easy Adjust Carb 2 (EAC2)"...
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 2 года назад
I too figured with a name like Smartcarb it was going to do something electronic that you set up from a laptop or the like and that it would adjust itself on the fly. The only real innovation is in the needle design, but even that brings to mind why Mikuni, Keihin etc. have never thought of that idea. I'd like to see a back to back dyno run between one and a properly tuned stock carb to see what the tangible benefits are along with a fuel usage simulation. Many 2 stroke motorcycles have always come from the factory running rather rich because it helps with longevity, so some of the claimed benefits could just be running a weaker mixture, which could be achieved with the stock carb and a few dollars worth of jets and needles. The easy adjustment for altitude is the only thing that jumps out at me as being an immediate benefit.
@rot_studios
@rot_studios Год назад
I thought this would be some complex electronically controlled doodad, but that's actually super simple and ingenious. Would love to have one for my Vespacar but... that probably needs some custom adapter and such. Also just bought the car so need to save up a little first haha. I guess I should contact them and see what's possible once I got the funds.
@StrawDragon
@StrawDragon 2 года назад
wow, you can buy a used bike for the price of that... I was thinking around $250 usd, but its in the $700+ range.... At $250 usd it would be reasonable.
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician 9 месяцев назад
Yep…I’m getting one. For my 2023 Beta 300RR!
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 9 месяцев назад
Right on!
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 2 года назад
It's a lazy man's electron carburetor with all the fun taken out of it of manually adjusting that tapered needle one notch at a time and then when running out of notches you grab into your drawer of a thousand other needles of different tapers and start all over again but you guys have taken all the fun out of it I say by merely pushing a button what fun is that ⁉️ it will only lead to more time on your hands to turn the throttle and wear out your engine completely wfo throwing roost at your buddies pissing them off to the point you will have no friends... As you will be riding while they are still at home changing Jets
@christiansanchez1486
@christiansanchez1486 9 месяцев назад
I put one a a motorized bicycle I built back when I was high school and dude these carbs don’t play best $700 I’ve every spent on a motor mod.
@hakan8997
@hakan8997 2 года назад
At 3:33.. I want the fuel filter the other way, so i can see the dirt build up. Even white plastic shows how dirt builds up inside. Its easy to forget fuel filters, even if they are easy to change.
@chaotic_300
@chaotic_300 2 года назад
Can it fit on a 4 stroke street bike tho?
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
Same question I have, I highly suggest to go to the SmartCarb website (link in description of of this video), leave your contact info (email), and they should email you back with details. Hopefully if enough people inquire about it: 1. We'll find out that the SC2 can be rigged up to a 4-Stroke road going bike, OR 2. They'll see that there's a community out there wanting this for street motorcycles and make an SC3 or such.
@tatecheddar
@tatecheddar Год назад
Idk about the bolt argument. I spent a bit as a mechanic and small hex keyed bolts strip out just as bad or even worse than phillips screw heads in my experience. This can be mitigated by having a really high quality hex socket, I recommend Snap-On for the best, but yeah... They strip out really easily if it's torqued down even a bit over spec.
@motorman111jld
@motorman111jld 2 года назад
Okay Okay I'm half way through the video and I already see the genius simplicity in this carburetor. I love it!!! *EDIT* alright I made it all the way through the video. Finally I find someone that see the low fuel consumption rate to be more environmentally friendly! Thank you!
@thomasraj7205
@thomasraj7205 2 года назад
It's a detailed 👌 examination practically without any compromise. Well done for informative education.
@Subliminal3117
@Subliminal3117 2 года назад
Is it only for dirtbikes? Would be awesome on my aprilia rs 125 :D
@MrCODEmaster00
@MrCODEmaster00 2 года назад
I went to the SmartCarb website (link to it is in the description of this video) and left my contact info wondering the same thing but for a different bike. I highly suggest to leave your contact info too so they can e-mail you as well, hopefully if they get enough people wanting it for 4-Strokes/Road-bikes they might make something if the SC2 can't.
@2strokerides
@2strokerides 2 года назад
your RS has fuel injection
@Subliminal3117
@Subliminal3117 2 года назад
@@2strokerides I've gotten the RS 125 2t now, i sold my 4 Stroke😅
@Subliminal3117
@Subliminal3117 2 года назад
@@MrCODEmaster00 alright, im gonna do the same then👍
@2strokerides
@2strokerides 2 года назад
@@Subliminal3117 my bad than :)
@dragostalks7501
@dragostalks7501 2 года назад
Dude! Your US accent is so good! If it wasn't for that Dacia Logan Pick-up thing made by Lada, I would have never guessed you're russian.
@Tattmemore
@Tattmemore 2 года назад
It looks to good to be true…too simple to work…but I bet cavemen thought that when someone invented the wheel! I’ve visited the website and asked the question if it would fit a 2003 Aprilia RS125 running a 34mm dell’orto carb without a throttle positioning sensor. Will report back their response.
@speeddemonbikes
@speeddemonbikes 2 года назад
This will be interesting to see what they say ...can't see why it wouldn't...🇬🇧😎🏁
@Caluma122
@Caluma122 2 года назад
What's the matter with your Dellorto?
@Badrick16
@Badrick16 3 месяца назад
Any update? because they did not respond to my question for Aprilia RS250 bike.
@dragontechgaming6677
@dragontechgaming6677 2 года назад
i have had a SC2 and i didn't notice any fuel savings at all and it just works like a normal carb but with a gimick. it's not really worth the money just stick with a traditional carb or convert to EFi. don't get me wrong it still works just fine but i didn't notice any difference in any aspect it just ran like a ran like a normal carb.
@infinion3
@infinion3 Год назад
very cool vid, in my shifter kart road racing days, i did use the needle alot when tuning, i like this design
@johnsmith-dm2tq
@johnsmith-dm2tq Год назад
a helpful tip: we often think of things llike mpg and equate this to we need more gallons to make more power, what is confusing about this is we don't burn gasoline....say it again, we don't burn gasoline. we burn air and gasoline is the catalyst that makes it possible. so if you have a fuel air ratio of 25:1 than you burn 25 parts of oxygen to 1 part gasoline. also i am not saying 25:1 is your fuel air ratio, its just an example. also this carb could be a great thing if you like old bikes like i do.
@Maine307
@Maine307 2 года назад
they should get models for generators, power equipment, and ATVs-!!! i would invest then!! for my other carb engines that i depend on! these guys sound awesome
@christophermcnally8782
@christophermcnally8782 2 года назад
The Sonex aircraft I flew for 18 years had an aerocarb they sold that I installed and it worked the same as this carb. I loved it because I could adjust the mixture to go lean of peak at high altitude.
@tomstulc9143
@tomstulc9143 2 года назад
Yeah that's what I'm looking for I want to upgrade a simple updraft carburetor something better on a corvair conversion engine.
@daviddiel
@daviddiel 2 года назад
It means that a smart carburator needs a smarter machanic to install and set it up.
@VolkerVolkach
@VolkerVolkach 2 года назад
hey, i think the fuel filter is in the wrong direction, cause the "bigger" end, must go to the carburetor... But cool Video! I was not aware, that this smart carb's are exist! Top!👍👌
@rusdayatiidrus5401
@rusdayatiidrus5401 2 года назад
Your so very detailed explanation using mathematical figures are very impressive indeed. But for people on the street like me, we need the following simple explanations : is it more economical n longer lasting n more trouble free ? Could you just concentrate on these 3 issues ?
@FreeWVson
@FreeWVson Год назад
I had a yz 490 air cooled two stroke in the 90s it was an 84, and it was a monster.
@billycollins1757
@billycollins1757 2 года назад
Ya need to learn how to read your spark plug in order to fine tune.
@SamChou
@SamChou Год назад
Very concise overview. You're doing well to sell me a Smartcarb with no BS! Love the production value and editing on your videos.
@grndragon2443
@grndragon2443 Год назад
I've seen what is considered a "smart carburetor". It used a AFR sensor, air bleed valve, and a computer monitoring and adjusting off the AFR.
@brandocalifornia3024
@brandocalifornia3024 Год назад
My brother got one for his ktm 300. He's pretty happy with it
@crrc4s
@crrc4s Год назад
Wish they made one of these for my 1953 VW 1.5l motor. Would really make my little kit car come to life.
@bruceharkness4497
@bruceharkness4497 2 года назад
It looks a lot like the old sidedraft carb you saw on old english cars, SU type. On those, you can change the metering rods and adjust them up and down as well.
@BobSmith-cb5xr
@BobSmith-cb5xr 2 года назад
I know nothing about this carb but I know a lectron carb on my yz250x was a god send. Hands down the best add on you can do to any 2 stroke.
@SmartCarbFuelSystems
@SmartCarbFuelSystems 2 года назад
Consider the SmartCarb the next level above that. Full external adjustability without tools (no cap and slide removal), true to size bore (Lectron H Series and new Billetron are 4mm smaller than advertised), variable venturi throttle rate (snappier response down low without compromising the top end), and a TPS option for your YZ250X's 3D ignition mapping (Lectron doesn't offer TPS).
@j.finesseflights1403
@j.finesseflights1403 8 месяцев назад
I ran X-tra rich! As long as I wasn't fouling plugs at WOT! Pre-mix = compression! Compression = Hp with 2-strokes😊!!
@dean-does-stuff-81
@dean-does-stuff-81 2 года назад
the fuel savings alone would make this type of carb interesting to many. Consider when racing you could potentially run a smaller tank. saving weight. of if you were enduro riding, you could ride further between fill ups... and over all, you would be saving money on fuel.
@cloudnurdz6331
@cloudnurdz6331 2 года назад
have you seen the price of them you are now saving nothing
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