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The best editor you've never heard of. 

Evan Zhou
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@arne8780
@arne8780 4 месяца назад
Does the video even mention that Zed is MacOS only?
@benmcmullan718
@benmcmullan718 3 месяца назад
Standard Apple fanboys leaving that out.
@Mempler
@Mempler 3 месяца назад
I mean, if you use only 1 platform you tend to forget it.
@stayhome8342
@stayhome8342 3 месяца назад
And do you think the Linux community would allow that ?
@Mempler
@Mempler 3 месяца назад
@@stayhome8342 ofc not lmfao
@ghostinplainsight4803
@ghostinplainsight4803 3 месяца назад
If you're a developer mac is so much faster to compile. It's not even close. It used to take me 23-25 mins to compile Hybris on a beefy gaming Windows machine, it's 3.5mins on M1 mac, 6 mins on Intel. Node frontend builds are much faster too. Worth the investment for that alone.
@wedge_one
@wedge_one 3 месяца назад
People been asking for a Windows version for almost year. And there's not even a Linux version! You could change the title to "The best editor that 95% of coders can't run". But looks very promising!
@hclyrics
@hclyrics 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I can't take a code editor seriously if it isn't cross-platform.
@samsep10l
@samsep10l 3 месяца назад
they're working on the linux version, you can actually compile a build for linux and it kinda works, it does crash from time to time but it's not horrible. would still use vscode for now though.
@xObscureDarkness
@xObscureDarkness 2 месяца назад
95%? Every company I've ever worked at as a software engineer was comprised of like 99% macbooks
@haroldp.sadwood1181
@haroldp.sadwood1181 5 месяцев назад
Once there's Windows and/or Linux support, I'll for sure give it a try. My ass does not own a Mac though.
@anujbarve
@anujbarve 3 месяца назад
Exactly!!
@spectre.garden
@spectre.garden 3 месяца назад
_Mac_Only_ needs to be prominently declared in the video right up front.
@hartvenus
@hartvenus 6 месяцев назад
As much as I love the fact that we’re finally getting vscode competitors, I have to be kinda skeptic about how artificially limited Zed is. Closed source afaik, mac only and no extension api might seem like small inconveniences when the editor is brand new but it means that it will never really have a reason for it to be preferred over vsc for more than toy projects and lightweight file editing (that neovim with a gpu renderer like neovide already does better). However the native collaboration, gpu rendering and installing extensions and LSPs automatically when projects are opened are all really nice features. Wish they were attached to a more production ready editor
@rmdashrfv
@rmdashrfv 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I actually knew about Zed prior to this video. I watched hoping for something more I may not understand, but I ended up just thinking that I'm right where I should be with vim
@m4saurabh
@m4saurabh 4 месяца назад
You are wrong, though I hate the that it's mac only, but I tried it on my friends MacBook, and it's was fast and snappy, and it's supports auto complete, debugging, other basic lsp features, it's build using rust and tree sitter. It's having a memory footprint that vscode could only dream of. Yeah it's not a toy project.
@AllysonTS
@AllysonTS 4 месяца назад
On github they said they have a project to make it open source soon.
@peterwilbrink718
@peterwilbrink718 4 месяца назад
It is open source now
@serge4192
@serge4192 4 месяца назад
it's opensource and Linux support is planned for this year
@ay-c2541
@ay-c2541 6 месяцев назад
Looks really nice, just one more question. Is it possible to auto upload on save using an FTP server? since currently that works flawlessly for me in VScode and is something i rely on for a lot of different tasks.
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 5 месяцев назад
Not yet available! This ties into the whole extensibility thing :)
@bitwise4996
@bitwise4996 6 месяцев назад
There's also the beautiful lite-xl which is so lightweight that it can run on a calculator.
@hallooww
@hallooww 4 месяца назад
which is better? zed or this
@tamalchakraborty5346
@tamalchakraborty5346 3 месяца назад
Using an old Intel mac, god this editor is fast. Opens in seconds. Feels fluid, and had a built in CLI. I use it primarily for python.
@korigamik
@korigamik 5 месяцев назад
Bro this vodeo was cool! Can you tell us what you use for editing the video and how do you syncronize the audio with the text?
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 5 месяцев назад
Davinci resolve :)
@korigamik
@korigamik 5 месяцев назад
@@evanzhoudev what sort of plugins do you use? Can you share your workflow?
@megaxlrful
@megaxlrful 5 месяцев назад
Vim and Neovim are strangely missing from the speed comparison charts.
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 5 месяцев назад
I think they’re referring to GUI editors, but of course vim and nvim are fast choices :)
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 4 месяца назад
@@evanzhoudev GVim exists and is a great choice if someone wants to use a GUI.
@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384
@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 4 месяца назад
even jetbrains is faster on a good machine.. basically zed is another one of those companies which will soon hang up a notice saying, we are stopping development because the vc money is over
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 4 месяца назад
@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 I do not believe this is true. Perhaps something that I wasn’t clear about in the video is that Zed is built by the same people as Atom, and they mean for Zed to be the successor to Atom. Thus, they have plenty of potential. Additionally, not everyone has a “good machine”… even some jb IDEs are decently slow on my Apple Silicon MacBook
@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384
@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 4 месяца назад
@@evanzhoudev isnt zed vc funded?
@Beryesa.
@Beryesa. 3 месяца назад
And now it's open sourced!
@hrqmonteiro
@hrqmonteiro 3 месяца назад
No one cares, actually
@Beryesa.
@Beryesa. 3 месяца назад
@@hrqmonteiro lol, you have no idea.
@youtube.user.1234
@youtube.user.1234 3 месяца назад
That’s actually great, now just waiting for Linux support and I’d try it out! :)
@user-tx3pv1xl6g
@user-tx3pv1xl6g 3 месяца назад
Multiplayer Collaboration looks good until you realize you need to run your code to test it
@0xDEAD-C0DE
@0xDEAD-C0DE 4 месяца назад
As a Vim user that know uses sublime text. I can say rhat sublime is better than most editors out there.
@hardi.stones
@hardi.stones 3 месяца назад
This.
@oraz.
@oraz. 3 месяца назад
I agree completely. It's weird how much it's ignored vs vscode.
@franklin5231
@franklin5231 6 месяцев назад
great video !
@user-xu3so2ug1f
@user-xu3so2ug1f 3 месяца назад
intereseting editor with a lot of potential, but im missing the plugins from vsc, especially the snipets and i would love to have my own icon packs / themes
@geniusbeast3062
@geniusbeast3062 3 месяца назад
everyone a gangster until vim like real monster arrives
@user-rz9sj2up5u
@user-rz9sj2up5u 2 месяца назад
One big missing feature right now is the git integration. I couldn't find my changed files, or some tool to resolve conflicts by looking at them side by side etc
@alexanderzikal7244
@alexanderzikal7244 3 месяца назад
I bought Sublime Text for 2 weeks. I like the speed and the design... The Interface GUI of sublime Text is closed source... I cant use that design in own projects. Now I try iced with Rust. The documentation of Iced is still empty...
@juranch
@juranch 3 месяца назад
Best editor with Exclusive OS not available for everyone, what a joke!
@thatoddshade
@thatoddshade 5 месяцев назад
Misleading title. I've heard of it (I wish it had something like a Flatpak for those poor GNU+Linux users).
@Redyf
@Redyf 4 месяца назад
Eww, flatpak
@adamjones7497
@adamjones7497 3 месяца назад
You are not everyone.
@veewinch
@veewinch 3 месяца назад
There is no functions/methods browser (or known as outline in VS code). And is for Mac only. So, I still prefer VS code because I can use it.
@blocSonic
@blocSonic 2 месяца назад
Without Emmet support, it's definitely not going to be a serious VS Code competitor.
@tristen_grant
@tristen_grant Месяц назад
Without support on things other than Mac, its not going to be a serious competitior.
@banikaritra5328
@banikaritra5328 3 месяца назад
How to use lsp with with it?
@seanknowles9985
@seanknowles9985 3 месяца назад
I press command enter on my keyboard in the assistant panel and nothing happens, no text gets submitted and no response from the AI... I've added my gpt 4 api key etc..
@ayush9790
@ayush9790 3 месяца назад
if you found out how to fix this please update it here, i am facing the same issue
@wt4csm
@wt4csm 3 месяца назад
>only available on macOS LMAO
@zyzzbrah7022
@zyzzbrah7022 6 месяцев назад
summoning salt?
@dantenotavailable
@dantenotavailable 3 месяца назад
Zed always makes me a little sad because i'm hanging out for an editor that isn't built on electron and Zed seemed like exactly what i wanted but it's MacOS only. Still... nothing to do but wait I guess.
@_tylerkinney
@_tylerkinney 6 месяцев назад
Welp I ditched vscode now
@samarthdhawan2229
@samarthdhawan2229 6 месяцев назад
Wtf only for mac os😢
@ryoukaii22149
@ryoukaii22149 3 месяца назад
will it be available for windows?
@namenlos4374
@namenlos4374 3 месяца назад
I hope not. Love hearing broke windows users cry
@scare5602
@scare5602 2 месяца назад
@@namenlos4374 might be the dumbest comment i've read, my windows pc cost more than my m2 mac.
@0xDEAD-C0DE
@0xDEAD-C0DE 4 месяца назад
I have tried this editor and this editor claims it is faster than Sublime text, but it is not. Sublime opens as quick as this editor if not faster
@trejohnson7677
@trejohnson7677 3 месяца назад
0.0001 of time spent is spent on opening…
@maop
@maop 3 месяца назад
It would've been nice to not waste my time if only the video started with "MAC ONLY"
@TheBurntHoney
@TheBurntHoney 5 месяцев назад
I wish it had a debugger
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 5 месяцев назад
Could always be added in future updates!
@TheBurntHoney
@TheBurntHoney 5 месяцев назад
@@evanzhoudev If they manage to implement it well i will probably use it as my daily driver.(I’m trying out anyway though).
@qwerasdfhjkio
@qwerasdfhjkio 3 месяца назад
​@@TheBurntHoney I never understood why people want debuggers? I get it that it may be convinient sometimes, but the way I write code is so that if there is an error on production, I should be able to get all the information I need from the logs
@revengerwizard
@revengerwizard 3 месяца назад
**Talks in MacOS**
@10_bn
@10_bn 28 дней назад
And how does the debugging and code execution work?
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 27 дней назад
I don’t think there is debugging yet, but there is an integrated terminal, from which you can do nearly everything that’s missing :)
@10_bn
@10_bn 27 дней назад
Could link or point out how to debug e.g Python Code using just the shell? I could find any straight forward instructions.
@arubaga
@arubaga 3 месяца назад
Contains secret network code - no thanks
@gmailservice9945
@gmailservice9945 3 месяца назад
does this work on linux?
@qlx-i
@qlx-i 3 месяца назад
Vim works on linux.
@ck-dl4to
@ck-dl4to 3 месяца назад
OaaS, Optimisation as a Service
@soyitiel
@soyitiel 3 месяца назад
VSCode? Did you mean... FiasCode? 😎
@AhmadMughal1
@AhmadMughal1 3 месяца назад
Neovim starts with 58ms and i have a large amount of plugins enabled so 😕
@LudoTechWorld
@LudoTechWorld 3 месяца назад
Yeah, the speed thing struck me too... If 350ms is fast then I don't know which adjective is suitable for Neovim. Not to mention that Neovim has potentially an infinite amount of more features with its plugin system. And it's cross-platform... And it's open-source... Even VScode has those things... Well, Zed is interesting in some ways, but it seems very far to be a viable alternative to anything at the moment.
@AhmadMughal1
@AhmadMughal1 3 месяца назад
@@LudoTechWorld Yes the only way VScode comes even close to neovim is due to the sheer amount of plugins it provides which will never be the case for Zed and in terms of speed it will also never be able to compete with Neovim so it is very far right now from finding a middle ground between these 2 metrics. Not to discredit that Neovim has a lot of plugins too now and they don't also effect the speed of the IDE due to lazy loading and well written lua scripts rather than using Node and Javascript. I did write my own plugin for neovim and honestly it was quite straightforward and works perfectly for me.
@Jonathan-Dsouza
@Jonathan-Dsouza 3 месяца назад
Does anyone know the VS Code theme used in the video ?
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 3 месяца назад
🙋‍♂️I know! (One Dark Pro, my favorite theme and the only one I use!)
@Jonathan-Dsouza
@Jonathan-Dsouza 3 месяца назад
Ohh great is it a paid theme ?
@DavidStarkers
@DavidStarkers 3 месяца назад
Wake me up when it's open-source and doesn't require me buying apple hardware
@dustsucker4704
@dustsucker4704 3 месяца назад
If they get Linux support out, I will try it. Sounds Great, but without Linux or even Windows support, it's not that useful in a not mac exclusive Company. Not to mention the high cost of macs for individuals.
@frenchmike
@frenchmike 3 месяца назад
no github integration to commit and push, that's a drawback currently
@souhailDevv
@souhailDevv 6 месяцев назад
there is like 1000000 videos on youtube talking about the "next ide, the vscode kiler, bla bla bla...." but are people really switching to those code editors ?
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 6 месяцев назад
If you’d watched to the end, you’d know ;)
@stevvns
@stevvns 5 месяцев назад
I did switch to Zed about 7 weeks ago :) I had a journey of Visual Studio -> JetBrains -> VS Code until this year. And then I started experimenting trying Neovim and Helix and some other options. Modal editors are cool and fun, but my wrists hurt terribly after just 3-4 days using neovim full time. Ergonomic keyboards didn't solve this problem for me, so I've resumed my search for a new editor. I did not want to go back to VS Code, just for the reason that I've already been there. So I came across Zed, tried it and loved it. My primary issues about Zed are: - No integration with test frameworks at the moment. - No debugger at the moment. - Automatic indentation is not convenient. It stubbornly adds offsets where they don't belong. But all of those are not show-stoppers for me. I rarely used debugger in VS Code (once in 2 months perhaps), so if I occasionally have to debug from console, it does not bother me at all.
@NoShadowsHere
@NoShadowsHere 3 месяца назад
Switched from Atom to Zed right away after watching this... Atom is good, but it has always felt sluggish to me. Zed feels really snappy!
@TheDataArchitect
@TheDataArchitect 3 месяца назад
Not for Windows?
@GaryChike
@GaryChike 3 месяца назад
Looks like a great editor. But I can't help but think of "Zed is dead" -Kill BIll
@moltony
@moltony 3 месяца назад
Very depressing that it's only for Mac. I'll continue using vim.
@res5ekt
@res5ekt 3 месяца назад
not for windows? why we? 😢
@docteurzoidberg
@docteurzoidberg 3 месяца назад
What is this 'MacOS' thing ? a closed-source distro? Would be great if could be used on a real OS
@evolutionxbox
@evolutionxbox 3 месяца назад
I just wish sublime text was better supported. I miss it
@oraz.
@oraz. 3 месяца назад
It's my main editor. I think it's pretty well supported. Updates keep coming and the popular plugins stay up to date too.
@kartikpodugu
@kartikpodugu 3 месяца назад
As of today, only MacOs is supported.
@vanvothe4817
@vanvothe4817 3 месяца назад
Never, Vim is the best editor
@alexanderzikal7244
@alexanderzikal7244 3 месяца назад
I ckecked the Link -> Open Source and and Folder called .cargo --> Rust... The speed is no surprise, only Zig is faster but not better!
@urssaf343
@urssaf343 3 месяца назад
Speed ? Laughs in Notepad++
@oliverp3464
@oliverp3464 3 месяца назад
When they start with “beautiful”, typical Apple fanboy characteriatic
@juliopcrj
@juliopcrj 3 месяца назад
The best editor is neovim.
@hotmiihir
@hotmiihir 4 месяца назад
zed have a git menu similar to vscode?
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 4 месяца назад
No, unfortunately not… a feature I’m personally waiting for too! CLI is great for some things, but I prefer using GUI for commits and merging lol
@hotmiihir
@hotmiihir 4 месяца назад
@@evanzhoudev me too, i asked for the facility with merge conflicts or similar problems, but thx for the answer :)
@andylees8939
@andylees8939 3 месяца назад
Is it not available on arch linux as zed-editor?
@wolfram4ik
@wolfram4ik 3 месяца назад
it is compiled for arch AUR, but support is not here yet. Package is just not woring as intended.
@Tux0xFF
@Tux0xFF 3 месяца назад
Does it have vim mode? If not, its speed is worthless
@absarrahman9177
@absarrahman9177 3 месяца назад
It has vim mode built-in
@urisinger3412
@urisinger3412 3 месяца назад
it does
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847 3 месяца назад
How is it for Rust?
@dantenotavailable
@dantenotavailable 3 месяца назад
Probably because it's built in rust. Dogfooding and all that.
@no_name4796
@no_name4796 3 месяца назад
The best editor is neovim. Prove me wrong
@nouirabdel319
@nouirabdel319 3 месяца назад
mac os required 😭
@cherryramatis2508
@cherryramatis2508 3 месяца назад
Just use neovim and be happy
@Ca1vema
@Ca1vema 3 месяца назад
MacOS only editor cannot be considered "best".
@fstrent4597
@fstrent4597 3 месяца назад
no windows or linux :(
@cristianinujazznight3044
@cristianinujazznight3044 3 месяца назад
But only for mac
@banchanbet4524
@banchanbet4524 3 месяца назад
its not even available for windows
@dazecm
@dazecm 3 месяца назад
Not cross-platform is a serious fail 😕
@Neehize
@Neehize 2 месяца назад
When Linux?
@tristen_grant
@tristen_grant Месяц назад
Its on the AUR.
@mayorc
@mayorc 3 месяца назад
So basically this is barely fine until extensions arrive and it's macos only. Pass.
@luay_kelani
@luay_kelani 3 месяца назад
I've never clicked the dislike button in my whole RU-vid career... What was that??? It has breadcrumbs as a feature??? And you didn't use it because you click on images and they don't open??? Not to forget it's MacOS only but of course why do we need to mention that of course everyone uses Mac
@I_am_Raziel
@I_am_Raziel 3 месяца назад
Does it support Linux? NO. Does it support extensions? NO. VS Code it is.
@vitalyl1327
@vitalyl1327 3 месяца назад
It's not Emacs, therefore it cannot be a good editor by definition.
@Metruzanca
@Metruzanca 3 месяца назад
Its a shame its MacOS only.
@ghoulblade3970
@ghoulblade3970 6 месяцев назад
What is the font in vscode at 1:00?
@excalizan
@excalizan 6 месяцев назад
it should be one dark pro i suppose
@AcidNeko
@AcidNeko 6 месяцев назад
SF Mono
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 6 месяцев назад
I use Monaspace Neon now, switched from CascadyaCove :)
@rolf2825
@rolf2825 3 месяца назад
Spoiler: No.
@RSWDev
@RSWDev 6 месяцев назад
Mac only makes it completely a non starter for me. I don't waste my money on getting scammed for RAM. I have always done all my development on systems with at least 32 GB of RAM in eother Linux or Windows. And now with WSL developing on Windows is even easier. Sorry Zed, looks like I'll stick tk neovim on Linux and VScode on Windows.
@stevvns
@stevvns 5 месяцев назад
Just give it some time. They really do plan to support other systems.
@pulkitdwivedi8263
@pulkitdwivedi8263 3 месяца назад
32GB?!
@naranyala_dev
@naranyala_dev 3 месяца назад
linux, linux, linux
@eineatombombe
@eineatombombe 6 месяцев назад
Obviously it's mac only🔥
@evanzhoudev
@evanzhoudev 6 месяцев назад
As a devoted Mac user, I’ve never seen a problem with Mac only apps 😅
@eineatombombe
@eineatombombe 6 месяцев назад
@@evanzhoudev well I cant really use a Mac, and i don't understand why they used metal instead of vulkan, like metal isn't easier or anything
@nefrace
@nefrace 6 месяцев назад
And also closed source as I can see.
@GeckoEidechse
@GeckoEidechse 6 месяцев назад
@@evanzhoudev based on Stackoverflow suveys, Mac has the smallest user base among developers so making it Mac only severely limits the amount of exposure it can get.
@technovangelist
@technovangelist 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@eineatombombemetal is far easier than Vulkan when building on Mac.
@jeroboam4486
@jeroboam4486 3 месяца назад
Mac only... how about you save us time and mention it at the beginning of the video?
@con_throlled
@con_throlled 3 месяца назад
too bad its only for macOS, soo
@b.c.2177
@b.c.2177 3 месяца назад
If is only for MacOS, then it is useless. The best OS today, especially for web developers is Windows 10, 11 with WSL.
@isaito789
@isaito789 3 месяца назад
This is extremely soydev coded
@leonss2356
@leonss2356 4 месяца назад
no thanks
@ashwin372
@ashwin372 3 месяца назад
vim is faster
@iamtharunraj
@iamtharunraj 16 дней назад
Visual Studio Code >>> Zed
@asev1969
@asev1969 3 месяца назад
macOS only 💩
@oraz.
@oraz. 3 месяца назад
I like sublime a lot more than vscode for these same reasons.
@ShanyGolan
@ShanyGolan 3 месяца назад
Vim support is trash
@TomaszB
@TomaszB 3 месяца назад
MacOS only, so USELESS!
@pixiedev
@pixiedev 3 месяца назад
🤮 mac only
@candyboober
@candyboober 3 месяца назад
btw atom sucks
@TprocNet
@TprocNet 3 месяца назад
waste of time
@dantemeriere5890
@dantemeriere5890 3 месяца назад
Useless. As useless as this video.
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