The BEST F-104 demo EVER!!! Whistle sounds NO music or talking! 

I totally agree with your comments. But, in my opinion, not a good display aircraft for viewing with the naked eyeball. Impressive display line flypast followed by just a dot in the distance as it does a ‘country wide’ turn before next flypast. The kriegsmarine four ship display team was good VERY LOUD.

Not "one" -- "theeee" most beautiful ac in the World- thanks Kelly!!

+Brian Croft you might have flown that very starfighter during your training at 417, that plane in the video is an old CF-104D

+Brian Croft That company flies 3 old CF-104's 632, 850, and 759. odds are you flew one of them

+Brian Croft My father was a Navy F4 pilot. He used to educate me a lot on military jets. He told me this airplane was difficult to fly, mostly because of the small wing. What was the landing approach speed on this jet?

I discovered this jet through a game.......needless to say now I'm in love with it

Many details about flying the F104 can be found here: www.airplanedriver.net/study/f104.htm

Not bad for a hand-held camcorder =)

+Craig Pennington a BIG thanks for the comment. =)

its an impressive vehicle for sure. like a rocket with a steering wheel.

The roar and whistle of the engines of any aircraft is music

I second the no music! and thanks for a great vid! The 104 is another Kelly Johnson triumph!

Your welcome!

Didn't the Germans design it?

No

@@dennism103 kelly johnson from lockheed--also designed the SR71 among others.

Kelly Johnson's designs are eternal.

I know this is like 3 years too late but what's really cool is the fact it's speed can mach even today's modern fighter jets

Don’t forget the U-2, the design of which started with the 104… with slightly longer wings.

There was a slogan at the old Skunk Works: "looks right, is right".

Sounds right! 👍

This thing was called the widow maker because of all the accidents. It couldn't fly well

@@davidmathews9633 there is an album by Robert Calvert of Hawkwing called "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", released in 1974, which highlights Germanys experience with the Starfighters. One of the tracks is called "The widowmaker".

Mike Hawk Yea I have a video that I made where you could hear the person talking on the PA thoughout the demo and everyone just kept commenting about how they wanted the speaker to be quiet. So now I stay far away from the PA speakers because I do care about what my viewers want.

Can you find any info on a super corsair that my dad said they were building, I don't think it was ever built but I have been wrong before ?

B I N G O ! Air shows and other venues where someone gets a microphone and thinks everyone wants to hear what's on their mind.

totally agree with you

I thought the title was hilarious. "This guy is bragging about his lack of production." But then there's that zen saying "speak only when it is an improvement on silence." I'd like to add "but don't brag about it." ;-) The audio is great. good vid.

AgentJayZ funny seeing you here, long time sub. What are the preformence differences between the standard and low smoke, and why do you think they went with the standard in this case?

I'm a fan of your channel.

@@newdeathscope Sorry for taking a year! What we call standard now was the only thing they had when the engine was first developed. Years later the newer low smoke combustion system was developed as an update, and at the same time the AB nozzle design was altered to eliminate the howling at medium power settings. There is no real performance gain with the low smoke system, but it is a major improvement for a combat aircraft to not leave a trail in the sky that is easily visible by the enemy, eh?

That trail makes it easy to film! =D

@@Xrm150 Nice job. Thanks!

You're welcome =)

I don't know about that. Besides the fact that beauty is totally subjective, the Mirage F.1 is at least as nice looking, in a less impressive way. The F-104 is more striking, the F.1 is more graceful and pretty. The F-16 may be a contender as well.

@@justforever96 Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, indeed!! When I was a little boy, my grandpa bought me the airplane toy of my choice that was in a small store ... and my eyes immediately focused on the F-104 that was among Spitfires, P51 Mustangs, B-52, F4 Phantom, ...I was in love with the lines even at that age! Rose coloured glasses etc. Ha! And I, too, like the lines of the Falcon and Mirage F1 as well.

@@justforever96 Surely you meant Mirage III instead? Other than that I do agree with your statement.

+J Gibbs, PhD nice comment!

Spot on i'd say. The Danish Air Force used them as a "scramble interceptor" and it worked brilliantly in that role. BUT they also used the F100 as a fighterbomber and that worked perfectly too. Each plane used in it's intended role. (The Danes didn't have NEARLY the amount of crashes that the Germans had).

I could tell from that black exhaust that the engine hated to be any lower than 30k. Probably happiest at 50+ and Mach 2 !

Agreed....Blow by the migs and attack the bombers.

but Lockheed themself positioned it as multirole all-weather fighter when they proposed it to international market... it was not just some stupid whim of germans... And don't talk about "lesser skill" - I bet merican pilots would crash just like germans if they were ordered to fly it low and slow.

They tried to out Mig 21 the Mig 21 and it just didn't work

I'm pretty sure they succeeded in making what the wanted.

@@default123default2 the Russians made up for it with the su-27

@Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin I had read something along those lines. Beautiful plane, but a bit hard on pilots.

"My favourite jet when I was a kid." Ditto.

"Starfoam"? Is that a thing, or do you mean "styrofoam"?

@@justforever96 good eye, got me on that one.

Starfoam sounds cooler!

Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

I aim to please

The F-104 is one of my 3 favorite jets. The other two are the A-10 and the F-16.

@@Cognizant-ut9oj Are you German? Germany ordered F-104s that could perform multiple tasks. It was therefore complicated to fly. The German pilots called it the "flying coffin". It is a beautiful plane, though!

@@WelDoneAV A-10 for sure Phantom too.

Amen. It and the B-1.

Doug H They were trying to use it as a tree top fighter bomber when it was designed for high altitude intercepting, unfortunate case of the right plane in the wrong place.

Yes carelessly hit my skull on the wing while checking one out at an air show.ow! That wing in sharp as f#:%=! Very precisely machined.

Oh yeah, mid 70`s I was Part of ACT in Front of Fulda Gap. Sometimes our Car was the "Target"...Unbelievable Moments.

Yup. Easton Airport. I hear they tie a rope to it and have a Starfighter pull.

This plane can go mach 2 and I've gone mach 2 in an F-104.

AND?

As a non airman I often wonder why such planes can't still be in service with updated avionics and control systems.

oldigger In this case, because it was a one trick pony. Fast in a straight line END OF. Couldnt turn, poor ordnance capacity and it killed many a pilot.

+Peter Stubbs it was a one trick pony BUT it was built for it and it did it VERY WELL!!

Your welcome

Andre Rovigatti

I synchronized this very footage of this F 104 to the music of Neil Diamond's "Be"....it was awesome, and fit together like a glove! ;)

+RCScaleAirplanes And I love your channel :D (Huge fan)...I love 104s as well :)

+WumbologyTM Thank you. I'm glad to know that you like my videos. _Cheers, RCSA_

speedy pencil capable of reaching mach 2

That's a great movie.

Me too👍👍👍

Only thing that sounds as good is the thunder of an F4 and it's twin J79's

Yep , there is not a lot of control surfaces on these planes...

first model kit i ever built, in the mid 60s

I have a another video titled f104 turning radius how big is it? Or something like that. It did make a different sound. Maybe it was similar

@@Xrm150 Another highlight back in the day when I had a full set of piano keys in white was two squadrons of English Electric Lightnings being scrambled from RAF Leuchars in Fife. The exact number I can't recall but it was more than 12. They were no more than 50 feet away as they approached the runway. Modern Health and Safety would never allow this now. My hearing is still good after all the years of abuse going to airshows and standing listening to bands like Thin Lizzie and others at the Marquee Club in London.

You're welcome.

Your very welcome.

Your welcome and thank you for watching!

Your very welcome! Thank you for watching.

I read a really interesting interview with Kelly,where they started by asking about re-enginning F-5 into F-20s and such. He liked the idea, and went on to say that an F100 or F110 in a Starfighter would give all the (then current) F series fighters a nighmare or two. It might not be quite care-free in terms of handling, you might need to be a little bit well trained & switched on, but Kelly was quite adamant it would perform, not just climb or go fast, but turn as well.

Just think, only 9 years after WW2, At that time the P-51 was the top dog. Interesting fact. Thanks!

PATTACAT For speed, the Me 262 had a 100mph advantage over the Mustang.

Thank you =)

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Yeah. Right. Like "interceptors" aren't "fighters". If I'm not mistaken the vaunted English Electric Lighting is an "interceptor" and supposedly performed a "stern conversion intercept" on or of a Concorde. The "legend" is that no modern U.S. fighter plane - F-16, F-14, F-15 etc "managed it". Of course its hard to "manage" something you don't try and playing around with passenger planes pretending they're "targets" is about the speed of children who brag about accomplishing things nobody else is stupid enough to try and the immaturity is just amplified by creating clever little statements that imply U.S. aircraft that would smoke a fucking Lightning from 50 miles out before that pilot of that piece of shit even had the gear up. Sure are lots of aircraft and aerial combat "experts" who talk shit about anything and everything American and can't make enough documentaries and RU-vid videos about antique Anglo dogshit but damned if any of those "superior' British planes have EVER flown an HOUR in actual AERIAL COMBAT OR WITHIN A THOUSAND MILES OF AN "AIR WAR" while every American plane they trash has multiple air-to-air kills. Funny thing is how its gotten nothing but more and more dangerous to fuck with anything that has "US" and starts with "F" as long as there have BEEN planes with those characteristics and the Brits haven't fought anything but a Phoney War with their badass "fighters" and haven't built an airplane all by themselves since the 50s and are kings of the fucking airshow and "flypast" but other than that you mainly find all their aerial excellence in the airheads of their fanboys. Really funny when they talk shit about F-104s and trot out the Widowmaker bullshit and use the German example when the Italians managed to fly their F-104s for 30+ years and didn't lose ONE. You can run along now, little boy. Fighter or interceptor is just semantics and an F-104 will be there faster and end the fight faster than anything the Europeans ever "joint ventured" into existence. There's nothing faster on the planet to 100,000 feet and 1500 mph than an F-104 and never will be. The Germans managed to fly them into the ground so effectively and well they crashed four at the same time once trying a formation takeoff with four F-104s in a "cluster" and if that's not asking for four funerals I don't know what is. And if THAT makes F-104s "Widowmakers", I can show you plenty of much better "deathtraps" from THAT side of the pond. Let's start here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Harrier_Jump_Jet_family_losses Now we can go here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_English_Electric_Lightning And we can finish up here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan#Accidents_and_incidents Unless you'd like to keep talking out of your ass, that is.

More like a coffin with wings.

??? Have you ever seen a U-2? A U-2 fuselage (if that is what you mean with airframe) looks completely different to the F-104 fuselage.

Have you ever read the history of the F-104 and the U-2? It's a well-known fact that the U-2 was developed in record time, secretly, by building it around the engine and airframe of the F-104. The external appearance of the U-2 changed from the 104, but the guts were the same. Look again at both of them, side by side if you can. The intakes are the best giveaway.

Ian Mangham It's pretty obvious you know very little about the F-104. It was designed by Kelly Johnson to be a lightweight single purpose fighter. The only well known problem it had was when the Germans re-engined theirs with bigger, hotter engines that those air-frames were not updated properly to handle. The F-104 came out at a time when the Air Force was being controlled by Robert McNamara who had a fetish for multi-role aircraft. As a single purpose aircraft it did it's job remarkably well. Heh, give me speed over turn rates any time. The ability to run away is crucial to the ability to control an engagement. Check out the tactics of Chenault's Flying tigers if you don't believe me. They shot down a crap ton of japanese planes with a slower, less maneuverable P-40 because it had one really big advantage. It could come screaming through the Japanese formation, shoot down a plane and keep going in a high speed diving attack. The Zero's couldn't keep up and so could not fight. The F-104 was fast but it was also much more maneuverable than you seem to know. It won in dogfights against several more "modern" fighters such as the F-4. Johnson was intending to put up a modernized version as a new aircraft to compete for the F-15 contract and was told, "don't bother, McDonald Douglas is going to get the contract.". Stupid politicians. They're a plague on the world.

trust me...much faster than f22....

There wasn't a protective cover on the wings?

+Garry Temple your welcome

i mean becides that it crashed about every 3 days

Well when you don't use it the right way... sure... it will crash.

Your welcome

Funny story about (Snake) Reavevs. He was coming back to the states on Lufthansa and shows up at the gate with his parachute as carry on luggage. He is swarmed by security but is rescued by the pilots of the flight who were reserve pilots of German Air Force and recognized Reaves. He was treated like Royalty and he and his parachute flew back in the flight station Observer seat. This was related to me by Stites Abel who had been a Lockheed Service Rep for German and Greek Air Forces.

I'm still doing that 😛