Acasis is neither thunderbolt 4 nor usb4 it is using titan ridge/tahini creek thunderbolt 3. It works well I have 3 of their enclosures. But just wanted to point it out that they’re not using a usb4 or thunderbolt 4 chip. Not that it matters as performance is amazing. They also have a usb3.2 gen 2 chip for connecting to a non thunderbolt USB port.
@@alittlebitgone False. Thunderbolt 3 has a minimum of 16 Gbps, USB4 has a minimum of 20 Gbps. Thunderbolt 4 is guaranteed to be 40 Gbps. Yes All 3 protocols have the same max speed... but TB3 and USB4 have lower minimum speeds.
I bought the Acasis USB 4 NVMe enclosure last year and put an 8tb sabrent drive in it. When I started copying large files to it in MacOS it kept disconnecting itself, and when I contacted their support they told me that 8tb is not supported because it draws too much power. That was never mentioned anywhere in their Amazon listing. Needless to say that I returned it. I then bought an OWC NVMe enclosure and had zero problems. I would recommend that people stay away from this enclosure.
@Lucian M. This was on a Mac Pro (cheese grater) with six thunderbolt 3 ports and it was the only thing plugged in, so I don't think there was any interference. They may have released a newer revision to deal with 8tb drives, but the one in this review looked exactly the same as the one I bought and returned, down to the two thermal pads.
Thanks for mentioning.... What component do you happen to suggest around 8TB. Only needed for storage If you don't mind to share hardware has been working out for you!!!
If you are saying using "OWC Envoy Express" as NVME external enclosure, look for the spec carefully. OWC one does not run full performance, and that's why it can limit the power consumption for 8TB drives.
@@rzkarimi I don't know how you would test that on the iPad. At the moment I have a evo 970pro inside so it should be fairly close to max speed but I know that it caps before PCIE4s speed
I bought the Acasis SSD enclosure and placed a Crucial 4TB SSD inside, which cost me about $300 on Amazon Prime Day. Man, it is blazing fast. I have a 512GB M2 Max Studio and for $300, I added 4TB instead of paying Apple's $1200 to add 4TB to the M2 Max Studio! With that price, one could buy two and use one set as a Time Machine Backup.
@@KlemenKotar I have not done any testing. However, I use it daily as the main storage for my huge DAW files and I can't tell the difference between loading files into the DAW from the Mac Studio vs loading files from the Acasis.
I have the 10 in 1 and find it is really good and versatile. Fast, does run warm--but not a problem. I find the micro sd reader very useful and the usb ports on top pretty useful. Great way to deal with drone files. It would be nice to have the same enclosure with usb 4--may be someday, but would buy again without hesitation.
Oh, and my heat transfer tape does actually work just fine. I opened it up just now and the tape was stuck to both the nvme and the top of housing. It peeled away when I opened.
Wow, this is quality content. Obviously this is something ive wanted to test. but watching you do it saves me lots of money and time, and now I know what I want. Thank you!
yoh bro u been feeding us a lot of great content recently hope you been taking care inbetween aswell, but these look great though wish they weren't thunderbolt 4 only though & be sure you share those benchmark scores for the 12900ks.😂
1000Mbps is not 10Gbps, it is 1Gbps, which means you are using 14% of the speed capacity of that specific NVMe SSD drive with the first product you are showing, if I got it right. The last one did better but still is less than 50% of it's capacity.
You are saying "1000Mbps", i.e. megabits per second. On the box it says 1000 MBps, so megabytes per second. So it's (1000*8)/1024 ~= 7.82 Gbps. It's still far from 10 Gbps but closer than what you said.
I’ve got me a Sabrent XTRM-Q 1TB which is an enclosure with built in SSD, bought it with my M1 MacMini (512GB SSD). The initial idea was to edit off of it in FinalCut Pro. The speeds I’m getting are 1200 Write and 2500 Read. Wasn’t very smooth there so I ended up using it as fast storage, but I freed up lots of space on the internal SSD. That’s great speeds all the way through. And yes, when I started using the Sabrent it had only that FCPX project on it so plenty of space for all rendering, my project grow to some 300GB while editing, maybe sometimes 400GB but still. My FCPX projects have usually up to 2 camera footage, 4K, I might add titles by the best manufacturers like Motion FX, Leno FX etc, but all this will run smoothly only from internal drive. I’m about to get the Mac Studio Max 64GB and I’ll simply opt for the 2TB right from the start. No mtter how fast all those external stuff can be, I’ve learned they’ll never be able to compete with the internal drives. Thanks for a good video, subbed now, like your other content as well.
The Acasis thunderbolt enclosure has dropped on amazon to £135 so snapped one up. Now I need a 4tb nvme, people have commented that certain brands of nvme perform better than others in this enclosure. I was planning to buy the WD nvme.
Thanks for the awesome video! I also own the Acasis SSD enclosure, and regarding the thermal pad, I believe the instructions say to place the pad DIRECTLY ATOP the SSD. I purchased a Western Digital WD_BLACK 4TB SSD and installed it with the thermal pad placed directly on top and it works flawlessly and the drive is super fast hooked up to my Mac Studio. Thanks again for the great video, and keep up the fantastic work! Cheers!
I've purchased sheets of thermal pads in various thicknesses from Amazon. They were not expensive. I suspect a 2mm thick pad would work on the ACASIS USB 4.0 m.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure. I ordered one of those cases, and have various sheets of thermal pads. We'll find out in a few days. Also if you happen to use both Mac and Windows, I expect you can format the NVMe drive as XFAT, which works on Mac and Windows.
So when you see 1000MB/s ratings on the box you know the enclosure is 10Gbps rating. Even though theoretically 10Gbps should give you 1250MB/s in practice you won't see that. And I know there's no 8Gbps enclosures out there... :)
I have the HUB (connected to a Mac Mini M2 Pro), but I put a Gen3 NVMe in it (4tb Crucial P3) as the HUB can't handle the read/write speed the Gen4 offers. I also connected a Crucial X8 4tb (rated for 1050MB/s) to the HUB, and it works great. I'm only using these drives for general media storage though ('only' 10gbps). I do some music production (amateur at best) and I own A LOT of massive instrument libraries. Although the speed the HUB offers is already very decent, I'm planning to get this Thunderbolt 4 enclosure and put a 4tb Gen4 NVMe in it. If this results in the massive speed boost I expect it to, I will get 1 or 2 more enclosures to put my expanding library collection on.
I've tested both the tbu401 and tbu405 m1. IMHO they both have the same flaw. When looking for M.2 nVME SSDs my experience currently is that four out of five devices offered will be Gen4 and one will be Gen3. The ACASYS enclosures I tested are configured for Gen3 drives with no option to support Gen4 at native speed. The tbu405 that I received from Amazon appeared to be a tbu401 with the covers scored for better heat distribution, it did not include an internal fan nor were there holes to allow air distribution. My testing was exclusively with Samsung 980 Pro 2tb, and consitently only attained Gen3 performance (understandable with the way the ACASYS enclosures are configured). HTH
I have bought four the ACASIS hubs to use with SSBs. This gives it the best function vs price. I am using with 5 iPads ( with over 200 movies on the SSDs).
I am using many thunderbolt 4 enclosures with my MacBook M2 with two of there using the 2 thunderbolt 4 ports. I can move 2 TB in just a little more that a hour.
I have a Mac Mini M1 I got a ACASIS Thunderbolt 4 Caddy and a Samsung 2T 980 NVMe Pro Just yesterday. I am getting Write Speed of 2807.5 and Read of 2749.8. It gets Very Hot, so going to add the second Thermal Tape and Use a Blower on the Case.
All those enclosures i've been seeing never make contact with the thermal pads and metal cases, some even have fans blowing to the back of the PCB... I mean, it's quite deceiving markting.
I need a quad nvme jbod with thunderbolt 3 connecters in raid 0 or bigger with maybe 8 nvme drives. That would be fast enough for me. I currently have 2 Sabrent dual mvme enclosure and I am upgrading to OWC Quad enclosure. There are 4 4TB Seagate 530 GEN 4 nvme drives in my dual enclosures. Note that they slow down with heat. When are we going to see a nvme NAS with 10 GB eithernet and Thunderbolt 3 or 4 ports. A nvme JBOD would be even better.
Acasis will be rolling out a TB4/USB4 SSD enclosure with an internal fan within the next month...I have 3 of their enclosure including the TB3 TBU412 hub but holding back my next purchase while waiting for this new enclosure It will be tool-less enclosure as well, so I'm guessing they will be using magnets
5:27 You say USB4.0 and Thunderbolt 4 are exactly the same thing. They aren't. Thunderbolt 4 is a superset of USB4. The Acasis box shown in the video doesn't say Thunderbolt 4, it says USB4.0. In various other marketing promotions, Acasis claims Thunderbolt 3 status , not Thunderbolt 4. For NVMe storage and theoretic transfer speed (40Gbps) the distinctions don't matter, but for other things (e.g Display connectivity) they do matter. Bottom line: This Acasis enclosure is NOT a Thunderbolt 4 product.
hey Ty for the correction- these YT TECH WANNABE SCIENTIST KNOW-NUTHIN’s NOOBIES ARE ALWAYS PONTIFICATING & WAXING POETIC ABOUT WTF THEY KNOW NUTHIN ABOUT-😤😤😳😳😱😱✅✅✅ wtf would there be a TB4 SPEC OUT IF THEY ARE THE SAME AS TB3??? I don’t want yesterday’s technology and TB4 has Stricker Rules for the tech companies and we always being LIED TO WITH THESE ERRONEOUS NAMING SCHEMES i.e. USB TB4 OR TB4 this that??? Thanks for TEACHING US THE REAL FACTS!!!
Regarding heat dissipation, would it help to add a layer of thermal paste between the enclosure wall and the thermal pad? Or is thermal paste only effective for metal-on-metal contact?
Well he mostly means the tech specs not the fact that the “ports” are interchangeable and use the same connection. It it NOT THE SAME AND DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THE LEAST!!! hey Ty for the correction- these YT TECH WANNABE SCIENTIST KNOW-NUTHIN’s NOOBIES ARE ALWAYS PONTIFICATING & WAXING POETIC ABOUT WTF THEY KNOW NUTHIN ABOUT-😤😤😳😳😱😱✅✅✅ wtf would there be a TB4 SPEC OUT IF THEY ARE THE SAME AS TB3??? I don’t want yesterday’s technology and TB4 has Stricker Rules for the tech companies and we always being LIED TO WITH THESE ERRONEOUS NAMING SCHEMES i.e. USB TB4 OR TB4 this that??? Thanks for TEACHING US THE REAL FACTS!!!
To have stable transfer speeds, do you recommend formatting the disk in APFS or MACOS Journaled format? I currently formatted in APFS but I noticed a significant drop in performance after a few minutes of use, from 2500mbs to 90 writing. (ACASIS 40Gbps + Crucial P3 Plus)
it might be bcoz you cache got full bro... first you should know how data is transfered and ditributed in memory cells and types of memeore cells you have... i dont think crucial p3 has good amount of cache..may be that why the speed failed after some time..if you see teh speed failed at the very first instance..then it might be due to cable..or port....and file formats have very less impact on transfer speeds...
Kinda sad that the fastest external SSDs are only reaching budget 3.0 internal SSDs... They really need to upgrade the ports to be able to make use of 4.0 or even 5.0 soon.
Well, according to rumors, Thunderbolt5 will double the data to 80 Gbit/s next year...so we could expect it to reach about 6-6,5 GB/s (with short active cables and massive external enclosures with enhanced cooling design).
Have my Mac Studio a couple of days now, 2 TB 64GB :) Its a fantastical peace of technic for my Logic DAW and UA-Arrow. My question is, what is this tool, that shows your uptime and other things graphicaly? Can't find any information of this... Thanks for all, greets from Germany :)
I had the hub many many months ago from their kickstarter campaign . Ultimately I got rid of it as it ran really really hot even when it wasn’t accessing the NVME. Doubt it if they have sorted out the heat issue.
@@theTechNotice Let me expand on this a bit more, I got the hub around about mid 2021 for the use of my MacBook M1 as it lacked the ports that I wanted to use. I backed their Kickstarter project pretty early on as it seemed to tick all the boxes that I needed. Fast forward to receiving the unit. It was sure looked like the business, however it ran really hot when I initially used it with a 1TB Sabrent Rocket NVME Drive. The Sabrent drive is a Gen 3 which shouldn't get too hot when not in constant use. However the hub was pretty much unbearable to touch after about 20-30 mins plugged into the MacBook with the 65 Watt plugged into the PD passthrough on the hub. So I reached out to Acasis and they refused to refund me, but offered me a partial refund of about £20 for the inconvenience of it being too hot, however they maintained that it was working as intended ? I eventually cut my losses and go rid the hub. Ill never buy from Acasis again from that initial experience from them.
Ahh, I bought this 10-in-1 hub too last month. With the same SABRENT ROCKET Q4 1TB, however, it only gets warm. When transferring 2G files, the Crystal Disk Info shows only around 45 ° C; when IDLE, it is around 35-40 ° C; Generally, its heat dissipation is quite good. And my guess: ACASIS's hub has been upgraded without overheating issue, and the old version is the one you are using. There seems to be a bug in that old one.
@@oasesommer904 Im sure they have silently revised it. However im not prepared to pay for it again at the higher price £80 approx when I got it for about £50 approx on the Kickstarter. I will await for something else by someone else to be released.
hey hey this nvme drive when I looked into MSI website I found out that it's not 1400 TBW for the 1TB it's only 700 and of course 1400 TBW for the 2TB model. and btw Samsung 980 pro is 600 TBW for the 1TB I think something has changed with this MSI drive maybe, i don't know
Thanks for making this video. 😀👍 Would you still recommend the MSI Spatium series for use with a Mac Studio? (The MSI Spatium m461 looks like a killer price and a TBW of up to 3300)
Do any Acasys survive Mac M1 sleep and wakeup? My always stays disconnected and not visible in Disk utility after Mac mini M1 wakeup. I always must unplug and plug it again :(
I bought this case with a 2TB WD SN770 (APFS formatted) and connected to an M1 MacBook Air I get around 2700MBps read and write speeds so this seems a bit slow.
Yeah, placing a Gen 4 M.2 NVMe stick inside a USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosure is OVERKILL to say the least. If anyone is interested in going that route they should save a few coins and get a Gen 3 stick or upgrade to a Thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure. Even then, depending on the setup, you'll get less than half of the potential speed of a M.2 Gen 4 stick which is rated at 7000MB/s. This is what your test showed.
It is not. You just need actual usable knowledge to be able to get that. Nobody cares about the made up maximum speeds, you can raise the worst case scenario numbers, though, which is why people use the top tier Extreme Pro SD cards (the ones that cost double the price of the basic Extreme pro) for pro photo/video, unless they use the "Nikon" cards or an SSD enclosure, ofc. I'd rather have a drive that does all data at 500 MBps (impossible with a single drive yet) than one that fluctuates between 30 and 7k.
Hey can you confirm that these are actually usb 3.2 and not usb 4? Based on the performance, the read/write you're seeing is on par with all the usb 3.2 models on amazon. Satechi just dropped what they are calling "the first usb 4.0 nvme enclosure" yesterday, so I don't think Acasis is being honest here
Great video! I own a Sabrent EC-T3DN Thunderbolt 3 enclosure for 2 NVMe SSDs. I’ve put there a pair of 2TB Seagate Firecuda 510 (PCIe Gen3) that I had in my older MacBooks, and I’m using it in RAID 0. The enclosure is reaching about 2800MB/s write and 2200MB/s read in RAID 0 or 1, but it caps at 1500MB/s on each individual drive. It looks like the NVMe controller is splitting 2 PCIe lanes per drive and that’s why it’s limited to that speed in individual drives setup , but in any RAID configuration is using all 4 PCIe lanes. Each drive individually is much faster than that, with 3450MB/s R/W but for an external enclosure, I’m pretty happy with the current results. One more thing about the drives, even though they’re a bit older, they have a 2600TBW, so I’m not so concerned in using them in RAID 0, and I’m also backing them up on my NAS regularly.
There seems to be ( in Canada ) tw ACASIS USB 4.0 m.2 NVMe SSD Enclosures that look almost identical with a slightly different description - one is 69 dollars more than the other - makes it a little confusing as it might be two different products or one is charging more for the same product. I want one - just don't want to get ripped off - your link goes to a generic page with an Amazon or B&H - when clicking the amazon link the page I get has a bunch of enclosures on it.
better to take some USB flash memory with large capacity and much smaller size. For example USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C and that it. Weird idea to mix hub with ssd case
I'm also thinking about buying an NVME SSD case. However, I couldn't find any cases from brand manufacturers. Are products like Orico or Acasis trustworthy? Can there be no malware on the controller?
dont buy acasis. its too unstable. will overheat. needs a proper 100w pd. even if you find a way to cool it down, it will bug on you when stressed (any creative work). it works great without ssd in it. if you have two ssd connected to it - it will not allow to copy from one of them, or will show errors. best solution is to have an external ssd enclosure and any other hub.
phison e18 controller seems to work well with this. But close to $200 it is hard to justify the additional speed over 1GB/s enclosure which can be obtained under 20 usd. For ex, FireCuda 520 2TB is just at $180.
Hi bro ..i have hp pavilion laptop with 1tb hdd...my laptop supports only sata slot and should i go for sata internal ssd or should i go for external ssd or should i buy internal nvme ssd and enclosure ..my laptop has one usb 3.0 port... Does connecting nvme ssd with enclosure with 3.0 usb is faster than internal sata ssd?
Bro, one question please, as it has no cooling fan, does it overheat or how much longevity can I get of SSD by these enclosure. Please leave a reply. Your vast knowledge of technology must help me. Thank you Brother
Samsung and sabrent both sell optional heat sinks with sabrent even a small one and a large one with pipes! Why arent these enclosure manufacturers simply cutting a big hole in the top for one of those? or leaving clearance for at least the thinner heat sinks? I dont see that case doing very much
It would work very well, but you're paying a lot for too much spec. I'd try something like silicon power US70 2TB model for that, cheaper but still gen4 nvme speeds.
@@theTechNotice I was eager and already ordered it before I saw your reply. But I'm curious to try it out, so will see how it delivers, and maybe later I'll switch it out for something more suitable and put the KC3000 in my workstation. Thanks again!
hi i bought acasis 4.0 and start using with my lap top.. But there are problem in using with my M1 ipad pro.İ can take file fromm acasis but can not send (or write) files to it. What should İ do ?
I bought 2 of the TB3/USB4 acasis TB401 enclosures you have, but only one can be used, cant get 2 at the same time. it will disconnect after sleeping. the mac seems to get confused as they both have same intel chipset? or cant deliver enough power, I tried all ports, front and rear and TB hub in monitor. what is the chipset for the 10 in 1 nvme? I assume it is fully compatible with M1 mac and it wakes from sleep without disconnecting? no one wants to reboot just to see the data drive
Hey man, test the RaidSonic Icy Box IB-1916M-C32. It's USB 3.2 2x2 (20G) which means it should be able to do 2.5GB/s, like it says on their website. And it's only 50$.
I put the thermal pad under the m2. however I formatted to expat and it works on my Mac but my samsung zgold3 does not recognise it. what can I do ? any help would be appreciated
Will this memory work with this device ? acer Predator GM7000 2TB M.2 SSD 2280 NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD, Compatible with PS5 Up to 7400MB/s - BL.9BWWR.106
Is it normal for it to heat up so much? I changed the thermal pad to no avail plus if I try to open the case the pad is detached from the nvme and attached to the lid. Thank you
The ACASIS Hub is limited in speed to 1000, So no point in buying or using an expensive NVMe you're not going to get close. I believe even says in fine print somewhere only going to get 1,000 out of it. All those hubs with NVMe capability are slow. The ACASIS dedicated enclosures however will give you plenty of speed and take advantage of the NVMe capabilities. But as soon as you connect it to the HUB which is connected to your MacBook Pro M1 you lose speed to 1000 again. I'm waiting for a HUB that can take an NVMe and give you full capability in speed 2000 plus. I have both devices you have in the video. I just wish HUB give you the speeds the dedicated enclosure does.
I just bought the Acasis 10-in 1 and so far it seems very unstable. I connected a USB 3.0 HDD and started copying files to my Macbook air. My macbook air charger was connected into the hub and after 10 minutes it lost connection and I got an error message that it stopped copying. I noticed that my laptop was not charging anymore, although it should had been thorugh the hub. So I connected a 20W charger to the hub and I also connected the original charger straight in the macbook. The HDD loses electric connection quite often and my HDD beeps when that happens and for a second the copying stops and then continues. This never happened when the HDD was directly connected to my macmini. I am very dissatisfied. Also the unit was getting very hot, even when I wasn’t moving any files. It got to 56 celsius, which is not good for your ssd in the long term. I will return this enclosure and I would encourage anyone not to buy these enclosures.
Due to the upgrade for M1 chip, all the enclosures show in the market just got write 1100-1400, if you want to got fast write as read as, just use another version.
the first one sukced the second one is better but you need a power thunderbolt hub with that fast drive to see close to its rated speeds .. so that fast drive is a total waste of money if your not going to use a proper case for it.
