The best keyboard ISN'T Keychron.

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In this video I build the Zoom TKL Keyboard and compare it to the Keychron Q3.
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@HipyoTech Год назад

This video used to feature an ad from Established Titles but in light of everything that has come out against them, I've decided to remove it. Supporting the channel is not worth risking you guys and I won't work with them in the future. You can still get the Zoom TKL and support the channel: Get the Zoom TKL: meletrix.com/r?id=acrru2

@mauree1618 Год назад

Good on you.

@riceyboi7069 Год назад

W Hippo man

@explicitpeach Год назад

The k2 pro is quite good

@Tilt_TM Год назад

Thanks for doing that. Also, which color frame did you use in this video?

@Naokarma Год назад

What has come out against them? They were always known as kindof a joke deal, so did it come out they weren't doing the tree planting thing? Or are people only just now figuring out that "lord" and "lady" aren't legally recognized cause you paid a company like $50?

@MrIamsosmrt Год назад

I really wish more board manufacturers would have their item in stock and not as group buy only. That is the main reason why keychron boards are often recommended because they are one of the few brands that actually have quality boards that are in stock. If I would want to buy a zoom 65 I would have to pay aftermarket prices or hope that the board will go on sale again some time in the future which might not happen at all.

@yushengcen4656 Год назад

This. I bought my Keychron Q3 not long ago with a discounted price of 214CAD (after tax), which is around 160USD, and I received it within 3 days

@Jasha127 Год назад

Same. Got a Keychron Q2 because groupbuy is stupid and if I want to build a keyboard I don’t want to wait a year to do it.

@j7vii768 Год назад

look at the QK75, they are making as many boards that sale from Nov 24 - December 3rd or something like that. Amazing keyboard too :)

@HipyoTech Год назад

Amen, we are definitely getting closer to that, manus are starting production pre group buy to get a 1-2 month window instead of 6-9

@Alex-tu5vu Год назад

@@HipyoTech amen?

@TemperVoid Год назад

Great looking board kit, but the fact that it’s a group buy is a killer for myself.

@core3481 Год назад

What is group buy?

@AHyland33 Год назад

@@core3481 They open it up for sale for a set amount of time, then the keyboard is built. You have to wait after you buy it

@TemperVoid Год назад

@@core3481 basically a preorder for a keyboard, where they put the keyboard up for sale between a certain amount of time (usually a month or so) and then close the sale to start producing the units. In a lot of cases, if not enough people purchase or order something in a group buy, it will not get made.

@ShadowMalice89 Год назад

If you're going to get into the keyboard hobby, you're going to have to accept group buys as being a thing if you're wanting to get premium boards. However, this has a very short lead time for being a group buy and I don't think that should deter you from getting it if you're interested. I'm still waiting on a keyboard that I ordered almost a year ago now (Mercury65) that I don't even really want anymore 🥲

@vincentellsworth7905 Год назад

only like 2 month wait tho...group buy ends nov 29 and it ships in january...not that bad really

@KeRaySh Год назад

What makes Keychron the undisputed mechanical entry leyboard winner besides simply being in-stock is the fact that they also offer ISO versions of their board. If it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't have ever seriously entered the hobby. Now that I've used their boards for a while I felt comfortable enough to spend a shit-ton of money on a custom ANSI GB board and everything around it to make it my endgame board.

@rapidpheasant Год назад

Sorry to respond to an 8 month old comment but wanted to say I totally agree. I got interested in the hobby and needed an GB MAC keyboard and couldn't find one ANYWHERE until I looked at Keychron. The lack of choice is very limiting.

@KeRaySh Год назад

@@rapidpheasant Haha, no problem! Now that I have a premium custom keyboard I give my Keychron K8 the stink eye and rather take my good KB to work and back home again whenever I need to go to the office... I might have to find a second custom keyboard just for work. I have more keycap sets than keyboards so I'm basically forced to, right?

@LeCaleb 10 месяцев назад

I’m getting into mouse and keyboard for the first time and I also want to game with it. Which one should I get?

@KeRaySh 10 месяцев назад

@@LeCaleb Keychron just came out with a specific gaming keyboard line a while ago. I'd say look into that first, but any Keychron should be good for gaming. Just look at which layout you prefer and check those options. As for switches I'd say go linear (red) for gaming, but ultimately it's a preference thing.

@LeCaleb 10 месяцев назад

@@KeRaySh thanks

@dresden5646 Год назад

The zoom tkl ee does include the battery and it shows that you can use it for 4-6 weeks per charge from what I see on the website

@maxmouse3 Год назад

Very cool. I do like that the keychron has Mac/Win switch because I use both but otherwise this board looks better in every way:)

@aMilling Год назад

Great board, but the reason why Keychron is so goated in my book, is that they make ISO nordic boards. Not a lot of the keyboard community does that.

@keonxd8918 Год назад

And no group buys, lots of layouts, lots of authorized distributors so more widely available.

@HipyoTech Год назад

honestly awesome

@gabriellundmark Год назад

Yeah they even released the Q9 as ISO. Not very common seeing a sub 60% ISO board!

@LordManhattan Год назад

Yup, Keychron and Vortex are awesome for including ISO Nordic!

@nicholash8021 Год назад

But keychron does not offer a split spacebar :(

@SittenSpynne Год назад

What makes Keychron the winner is I can buy their stuff. I can't type with a group buy and promises. I ordered a GB keyboard in September with an ETA for the end of October. When October came that ETA changed to November. Now that ETA has moved to January. I don't have time for this. I ordered the keyboard because I needed it, and I'm starting to think most of the MK industry runs on vapor. I'd love to from-scratch build a keyboard but it's hard to stay excited about a project when the parts don't even arrive in the same quarter I order them. I'm a hobbyist who plays video games, not a business making long-term plans, and I don't order my hardware based on projections.

@Hobosdkcheese Год назад

I’m So glad I purchased this keyboard. Hope it can arrive soon.

@technerds1187 Год назад

The shipping cost is 95$ to Australia. that makes this keyboard 274$. Outrageous !!

@ruudschmitz1 Год назад

And you still have to assemble it..... Lol.

@temorinkaari Год назад

$180 for a barebones, and a group buy. I'd rather get 2 keychrons

@nicholash8021 Год назад

YOU MISSED THE #1 FEATURE: Split Spacebar option!!! FINALLY a split spacebar on a TKL board. There IS a god after all. Just take my money--and that evil backspace key.

@nicholash8021 Год назад

SOLD OUT!........ I want to die now.

@RealLuvKraft Год назад

was just about to order a Keychron Q2 but now i feel like i have to watch this

@Unidentifyed Год назад

same lmao

@trifxld. Год назад

@dreamin2much327 Год назад

Actually the title is a bit of clickbait. This is just an alternative choice

@shyrix Год назад

same but q2 is on amazon canada for about 30% less. so hard to choose now. i think i may still end up with the q2 anyways since i can get it now

@keonxd8918 Год назад

One is 65%, the other is 80%

@8bithavok Год назад

I got my Keychron K8 Pro about a month ago and I've been loving it. Excellent deal for $110, unless you're me and got it as a birthday gift, then it's an even better deal c:

@rylissanna6491 Год назад

I just finished building my Zoom TKL (first build ever!) and I really love the sound and feel. I didn't buy the internal weight, but I put in the extra foam they sent (I just cut an indent into it to make space for the cords inside). It sounds great even without the weight! I got the aluminum plate because I didn't think I would like it to be too flexible when typing. Totally worth it!

@priestmarmore6750 Год назад

I hope they make some more Zoom65 (or better, they don't sell them only in GB) or a Zoom65 V2. I think they could switch the Wireless for RGB (the battery concerns me a bit) but I'd love to get that board or even the this new TKL (which looks better than the 65 tbh)

@HB4o8 Год назад

I had mine delivered the first week of February and MAN this thing is amazing. It sounds, feels, and looks amazing with my current config (all foams, pc plate, Banana Split switches, GMK WOB) btw this thing is a beast durability wise. My cousin came over to try my board and accidentally spilled his coffee all over it! I guess you could say I got lucky but hey it's still typing this comment

@key-T Год назад

Hey Hipyo what are your thoughts about Zoom TKL vs QK75 ?

@insertsupport2064 Год назад

Hey Hipyo love the Videos! Modded my first Keyboard recently, though it was just foam and ghetto lubing. Hopefully with more time I’ll be able to work on my 1st creation. Keep up the great Videos.

@teakey Год назад

Sounds awesome. Don’t down play anything. That sounds cool. After all this guy is famous for Play-Doh’

@teakey Год назад

Sounds awesome. Don’t down play anything. That sounds cool. After all this guy is famous for Play-Doh’

@ramble3539 Год назад

I haven't even seen the video yet and I know it's gonna be a banger!

@PawnisherX Год назад

I'm wondering is this keyboard good to buy or not, Thanks Hipyo Tech for reviewing this kit

@Lutielledi2k Год назад

Hoping very much their 75% drops soon, and with a knob! That'd be my ideal board.

@stefanusrianto8781 Год назад

try the upcoming QK75 instead. You can choose to use knob or badge

@Tony-ui2sl Год назад

Zoom 75 coming out and it's modular so you can use a knob or an led screen

@BIackingOut Год назад

I just wish there would be a good custom to buy an in-stock that is ISO hotswap that isn’t Keychron…

@likemarksee Год назад

Except for one small, major catch, there are lots of keyboards to compare until you realise most don’t come in ISO (UK) layout. If you include ISO layout in your requirement list, the options reduce by 90%.

@konnermathew4764 Год назад

zoom tkl vs qk75? specs wise

@opticalneon6392 Год назад

Challenge: dont pick a new best keyboard every two weeks

@HipyoTech Год назад

done

@HoangNguyen-oz4fj Год назад

Impossible!!!

@Tyreinn Год назад

I went with Keychron recently for my first foray into custom keyboards. It was my goldilocks board, giving me hot swap,75%, and ISO format. Before this I was using a realforce topre tkl I picked up while in Japan and I got really used to the JIS layout and wanted to keep my big enter key and @ next to P. I would love to try some other, higher end boards in the future but 75% ISO seems to be a rarity.

@davidcasey1119 Год назад

This is the killer for me, the lack of available 75% ISO options. RK84 and K2 (Come on Keychron and do the K2 Pro as ISO) are the only ones I can actually get my hands on. I've tried using ANSI but ISO is just 100x better for me.

@bobbobson6290 8 месяцев назад

I currently try ANSI after using ISO-DE all my life. It's not too bad. For programming I actually prefer it because the braces can be accessed more easily. But reliably hitting enter was a challenge at first.

@Makalon102 4 месяца назад

@@bobbobson6290 am also an iso switcher and the big left shift is more comfortable

@AHyland33 Год назад

Can't compare the two because one is always in stock and the other is a group buy. Keychron is still the best option for someone looking to get an in stock keyboard

@beccisharp Год назад

Now this is a keyboard I would consider building! My only problem is I can never find any good UK layout keycaps to go with such pretty boards

@cchambers032 Год назад

EnjoyPBT or gmk

@beccisharp Год назад

@@cchambers032 thanks! Will take a look!

@stefanusrianto8781 Год назад

Try Nicepbt from Cannonkeys. Or cherry PBT from Novelkeys. Or the GMK keycaps

@antaeusdk 9 месяцев назад

"Coiled cables are kinda lame". I could not agree more... I have never understood why.

@TheSeanBampton Год назад

Listening to the last 10 seconds of this video, I had a keygasm. That is one sexy sound.

@DmitryGorbushin Год назад

The sound of this keyboard is just .. Wow! So nice!

@vaderman212 Год назад

When they make a full size, I'll be interested honestly

@XumRise Год назад

I missed the Zoom TKL, because I did not see this video until last week, but the Zoom 75. IT WILL BE MINE!

@joegignac1832 Год назад

Sounds great! Hopefully they make a full size one day. Ya I'm one of those people that need the numpad for work. :(

@darklorddylan1316 Год назад

This keyboard looks really cool. If they had it in a 65% or 75% I would buy it but I don't like TKL.

@Agent_Alpha Год назад

man the custom keyboard scene is looking so good since the pandemic hit lol

@p0r5ch3911 Год назад

"I'm not an electrician, so I'm not gonna worry about it." - Best quote.

@Industrialman91 Год назад

Been looking at getting the Sugar Plum edition from Cannonkeys, and you've helped me decide to do it. Just hate that gotta get it before the end of the month. Wish they'd just produce them to stock the vendors over getting in the groupbuy.

@bradyvilhauer4445 Год назад

Group buy claims to only be like 2 months of wait, and it’s probably a lot less expensive this way

@metalskinn460 Год назад

I know it doesn't matter for most but I need that per key RGB. This is the only thing keeping me from buying this. It has everything else I want in an affordable mech.

@NeonLine1982 Год назад

The Zoom Tkl can't really compete with Keychron if its not in stock and in a group buy only.

@cappslock Год назад

honestly, i just bought a keychron kit and it was missing parts (specifically the top of the case), CS decided my kit didn't include that part(?) and refuse to help me get a new part. all over the course of a week or so. never buying from them again so its good to see alternatives.

@silversong4VR Год назад

That sound test though...I need this!

@anon_y_mousse Год назад

Fun fact: all cats possess the skill of teleportation.

@cyphre Год назад

Sure would've been neat if this launched earlier. Now it's QK75 time.

@CarterHurd Год назад

The next random thing you should consider putting in a keyboard to improve sound is removable wall mounting putty. I used it in my latest video to good effect. Imo it worked better than the tape method, while being just as easy.

@horseypeeps5382 Год назад

I've purchased this keyboard and will hopefully see it in May. I have fewer issues with group buys themselves than I do with the promotion of the GB's. New to the hobby, I have a difficult time figuring out when they are happening, where to go, and who is having them.

@nate_wil Год назад

I just got into mechanical keyboards. Bought a Keychron K10 as I love my num pad. Bought it and got it within 1 day. As the saying goes... the best ability is availability. Gimme the great mechanical keyboard I can get within 1 day of buying any day!

@Penguinverse Год назад

Oh my fucking god, that sound test at the end.

@malachi_hatessin3573 Год назад

Bro I'm so glad I didn't buy the q3 before this came out. This keyboard looks and sounds stunning.

@christopherjarrett9067 Год назад

We can all agree the HHKB is the bestest. Couple it with a Heavy Grail--*chef's kiss*

@Verchiel_ Год назад

Was going to throw a hissy fit because i felt the "Seeing a way better option days after buying something" scenario coming. Buuuuut lucky for me the keychron K8 i got nearly a week ago for 120 euro is probably a better deal than 180 euro keyboard i have to build myself.

@AI3Dorinte Год назад

Agreed, sounds good, looks good, really good price for what you're getting.

@ericchen3129 9 месяцев назад

Is there a build guide for this? Preferably a step-by-step that I can follow without getting too confused, and I placed an order for the Zoom TKL. Excited for it to come and I'm hoping it's not too hard to build the keyboard!

@IvanStamenkovicSeemsIndie Год назад

I really recommend royal kludge h81 with cyan switches, reallly good :D

@austinbelch1506 Год назад

Novelkeys nk87 has this layout and I have been in love with it for the last few months I have been using it

@iemp7165 Год назад

Ahhhhhh i love this, but i wish they had full layout options :(

@aaronmichelson5510 10 месяцев назад

No RGB, just in case anybody was interested. I think some of the other Zoom models do, like the 75%. I'd personally rather have RGB for night gaming, rather than a battery.

@Gravoli Год назад

did you get a new camera? looks differnt.

@kayathecloudkid Год назад

Ok, great channel, good job, you got my vote. Just bought my first ever compact keyboard, the keychron k2, which is kind of ok, but looking for something better.

@proteanalias Год назад

I have 3 cats so I know when you say "sometimes" you really mean "mostly when she is asleep"

@BuzzaB77 Год назад

I just ordered a K3 pro, so thanks for that timing. nah all good tbh I need the low profile. that looks and sounds ace though

@herobrinexd6705 Год назад

Nice Video! Please do the best 100% Full Size Keyboard 😍

@PtDoughnut Год назад

Went to jump on it as my first keyboard. Only $70 shipping to Canada.

@TheyCallMeHacked Год назад

Will you review some non-standard layout keyboard like the ErgoDox or the Kyria some day or is that not something that interests you?

@Niimu-it5ll Год назад

can you check out the moondrop hifi keyboard?

@SevenandForty 11 месяцев назад

TFW got jebaited by clicking the link and seeing "GB in November, shipping out January" before realizing it was for 2022 and 2023 respectively. Kinda shitty that they keep the old page up for literally a year after it happened as if it's still 2022, without posting updates or changes on the product page.

@jacobleetech Год назад

The battery is surrounded by so much metal I wouldn't worry about it getting warm at all. That aluminum will spread the heat out really well.

@INDABRIT Год назад

Zoom65 and tkl are so nice, waiting for my zoom65 EE R2 :))

@Reanimateryt Год назад

Idk if u saw my message but you know those silicone keycaps you had? You should just put those in the keyboard and see if it’s quiet or not, and then put like something in between the silicone keycaps

@usr-valkyriezh2 Месяц назад

4:45 i dont think bro was talking about keyboards 😭

@Mxzu6 Год назад

Hipyo what kind of keyboard should I buy for the laptop I’m getting for Christmas. Which one should I get?

@mrbonono2951 Год назад

You should look at the parallel sequence, very nice aluminum keyboard

@connorthecorgi Год назад

Great video to watch right after buying a keychron K1

@MrVaultBoy87 Год назад

POV: You spent 75 $ for fancy carrying case and useless plates of a 175 $ keyboard. Best part is, it comes disassembled too. Bonus POV: No 2.4ghz wireless, just bluetooth...

@icry4703 Год назад

i just really wish it had per key rgb, im such a sucker for it.

@matthieusandjivy7925 Год назад

I knew this "lord" stories from years but I renounced as at that time (like 2006 ?) you could only use "laird" as a title. Which is kind of weird. Let's go now.

@lines8877 Год назад

Amazing yum thanks for the sound

@25LQW Год назад

Meletrix shipping to Australia is US$95. Local vendor pricing is better. Just a heads up for anyone thinking of buying.

@stefanusrianto8781 Год назад

yea can try from Dailyclack if from Australia

@25LQW Год назад

@@stefanusrianto8781 yep listed on meletrics site. Along with keebzncables. Even has option for sea shipping to save AU$44 but wait another 4-8 weeks.

@mousepotato581 Год назад

Zoom TKL would be perfect, if it had a knob :D

@TheLivingDeer Год назад

someday our children will have keyboards with actual lego brick keycaps

@GargantuanMetal 8 месяцев назад

I feel like i speak for a large group of people when I ask, Will you do a deeper dive into the MELETRIX WS Quartz switches used in this video pleeeeaaasse???

@GargantuanMetal 8 месяцев назад

There aren't any quality videos about them disassembled/hand lubed. It's basically free content, besides your time lol. However, it's a unique switch and you know it!

@quoostonator 7 месяцев назад

Ordered! But, how the heck do you make your boards sound so good?

@loshan1212 Год назад

I don’t understand why it’s so hard not to include ISO!

@richardj1319 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the vids, Hipyo Thock - I mean tech. Any chance you can throw in a comment on the keyboards if they're available in ISO? Large parts of Europe use ISO layouts. :) You're popular around the globe!

@vinicius18103 Год назад

Keychron also offers QMK, in case someone would like to have this option as well

@TheChpowell Год назад

Revisiting this video because keychron is teasing their Q1HE hall effect 75%. People have been begging for wooting to make a 75% and Keychron just beat them to it

@RJayRoberts Год назад

The per-key RGB is a bit lame when it's south-facing and just glares in your eyes from behind non-shine-through keycaps. Side is ... better? And Yeah, keychrons do ping quite a bit.

@P0LAR07 Год назад

I have a keychron k10 and its pretty pog, sadly i didnt buy the hotswap version but i love the gateron reds that came with it

@neko3154 Год назад

Bought the wowstick cuz of you, honestly an amazing tool haha. Thank you for informing me it exists :D

@alicherif3981 Год назад

Thanks for telling me 2 weeks after buying keychron v4

@KirballsKeys Год назад

Best keyboard is subjective. In my experience there was problems with every single one of the 3 boards I got from Wuque.

@npexception Год назад

Please make sure to give Nola some good scritches and slow blinks.

@eeveeblazelol Год назад

I would have gotten this if i didn’t get my tiger lite already, but this looks amazing!

@rabbitgames1971 8 месяцев назад

I know this video is old, but I'm curious about a comment you made. You said no RGB that's per-key. I don't understand the terminology since I thought this had south-facing RGB. Thanks!