The best of: Class 331 

I see what you mean, there is a slight similarity

@AgentBri_ish the pitches aren't too high pitched like the previous gen 2000s units, 334s/333s/E-stars and 2010 hitachis, these are slightly lower pitch in sound (but low pitch frequencies doesemt nesseccerilly mean better, i guess it depends on the train) it sort of matches the lower powered thyristor sound of the BRUSH 465s (which are amazing) they also sound like copenhagen metro which i can link you. Anyway , i assume its low powered, because modern trains are designed with power efficiency in mind and minimal power with maximum output it would seem.., well with the potential to use less power and operate fast is what I mean.

Depends were you looking, the majority of the 331/1 have mover over into the east. Most stations on the west coast are only big enough for 6 carriages hence the switch to 2x 331/0s

Exactly right

then class 333 which also could be found in ‘Nothern’

@@twilatstuff3971 then the class 334 on ScotRail

yep

Thanks

thats the traction motors under power

Damacy5025 the 195s have the same engine (probably) as the 172s

They do. (Same with the 196 and 197)

They have replaced the Class 321s and Class 322, as well as displaced Class 319s on some routes allowing 319s to be used on other routes routes on the Northern network.

The sister class of the Class 331s known as class 195s, have replaced the Pacer family (142, 143, 144 classes respectively).

Yes, Northern’s entire EMU fleet can reach speeds of over 75MPH. Class 319 100MPH Class 323s 90MPH Class 331s 100MPH Class 333s 100MPH (333s will never reach 100MPH due to line speeds of 90MPH.) In terms of Northern’s DMUs Class 158 90MPH Class 170/4 100MPH Class 195 100MPH

@@lordparma7556 oh no, I meant like the line speed. Apparently their limited to 75mph so the 90 to 100mph trains cant really "breathe" so to speak.

@@bb-3653 Not all lines the 331s operate on are restricted to 75MPH, some lines allow speeds of up to 100MPH for non tilting trains. Not sure what determines line speed, but I know it has nothing to do with “not giving 90-100 mph trains time to breathe” Might have something to do with tight corners or something. Only thing I know that effects line speed is points. Can’t really help much on this one.

@@lordparma7556 well at least I know that some lines are 100mph then . So the trains can indeed "Breathe" haha. Yeah I'm not really sure either what determines line speed.

@@bb-3653 Glad I could help, again sorry I can’t fully help but I’ve explained what I know.

That’s because they’re both built by the same company, CAF.

The same ones who did the Edinburgh trams

Both the 397 and the 331s are from the Civity family, are made by CAF and were built at the same time, so they use the same traction motors, hence why the 331s and 397s sound the same.

Imo, the fronts of the 331/195 look better than the majority of newly delivered trains, like the 777s.

@@slavoslav9175 yeah true , better than the 720s for sure. 777s are okay, but I don't like how the emergency cab door is on the side. But i guess it's for functional reasons. Even so it's ugly to me. I'd prefer these if they looked more like the class 196s Either way older rolling stocks look better tbh. Electorstars. 350s 319s, 321s esspecially and so on. But the new train fronts I like that aren't High speed are the desiro citys, the and the class 730s to me their the exception.