The Best Precon Commander Ever for cEDH! | Stella Lee cEDH Deck Tech  

I did figure this out after recording 🤣

couldn't you also do dramatic reversal + the one ring?

I have a question about this line. When the copied timetwister resolves, doesn’t it shuffle cerulean wisp back in the deck? You’re still able to copy it to redraw your deck?

Yeah I was using that in my first iteration but was finding I play so few creatures that the interaction didn't come up as much as I had hoped

what about Molten Duplication? the Dualcaster+Duplication line is just so compact that it feels wrong to cut it...

2 mana sorcery for haste is bad, I've cut it from my lists.

what does izzet mean?

The color combo - red & blue

We're on both 🤷

Welcome aboard 🤠

That's what I found too

I’m running everything else too that combos with her. She is ridiculous.

Infinite mana isn't a win condition though, so we'd need more parts

I don't think Claim meets the brief. here's why: all that Claim is really doing is either giving Stella haste, *or* being used with Stella to get infinite storm count. it's not that either of these things are "bad" per se, just that there are countless ways to achieve the same thing using better, more versatile cards. additionally at a certain point, you reach diminishing returns with enablers for Stella. this is where the fine tuning comes into play, and where we'll have to see just how many enablers become standard for the deck.

​@heirophantpim I like borrowing tymna

​@@syndicate5357 I mean... is that really what this deck wants to be doing? we don't run many creatures to begin with so the likelihood of 2+ Tymna draws seems low; casting Claim just to borrow a Tymna, gain 2 life, then lose 1 life and draw a card seems... not worth it? we don't have ways to abuse threaten effects so Claim doesn't really "handle" Tymna I just don't think it's that impactful; by all means play test it and let me know if it IS impactful... god knows I'm horrible at evaluating cards 😂

@@heirophantpm Claim would be more for providing haste, or stealing a Drannith to be able to cast Stella or stealing on board bowmaster the turn you want to go off

Birgi is an amazing outlet especially on the horn side when you've gotten the blown out. Flesh is great as a dockside copier, bowmasters copier and more

sorry -- I meant, why Duplicate specifically over Image or Imposter Mech or even Metamorph? only reason Flesh gives me pause is the double blue; this deck feels like it runs on the margins and having appropriate colored mana seems critical.

I've definitely seen it, I think the difference between 1 and 0 is indescribably vast

I can help! so the stack works first in, first out. let's say you've cast your 3 required spells. you then cast Twitch targeting Stella. your opponent -- being smart -- doesn't do anything just yet. while Twitch is on the stack, you then activate Stella, targeting Twitch to copy it. so the stack right now is: 1. Twitch 2. Stella Lee activation the activation is allowed to resolve and so now the stack is: 1. Twitch 2. copy of Twitch of note: right now you have a *tapped* Stella Lee. your opponent now casts Flusterstorm, targeting both of your spells (let's assume you can't pay for any of them). the stack is now: 1. Twitch 2. copy of Twitch 3. Flusterstorm and its copies BEFORE Flusterstorm is allowed to resolve and counter the Twitch or copy of Twitch, you then cast Tidal Bore to untap Stella. assuming your opponent is out of interaction, the stack will now be: 1. Twitch 2. copy of Twitch 3. Flusterstorm and copies 4. Tidal Bore Tidal Bore resolves and untaps Stella. then, *before the Flusterstorm copies are allowed to resolve*, you activate Stella again, targeting either the og Twitch or the copy of Twitch. at this point, here's the stack: 1. Twitch 2. copy of Twitch 3. Flusterstorm and copies 4. Stella Lee activation/another copy of Twitch #4 then resolves, untapping Stella and drawing a card. you then reactivate Stella targeting Twitch and repeat the process, drawing your entire deck. to clarify, Tidal Bore doesn't "protect" against Flusterstorm per se -- it just allows you to get another Stella activation on TOP of whatever piece of interaction is being used. hopefully that helps! I'm on mobile so sorry for any typos. :)

@@heirophantpm the hero we didn't deserve 🙏

​@@ComedIanMTG omg notice me senpai! 😍😍😍

You don’t want to copy the intuition though most of the time. Usually you’re just gonna want to have Stella untapped to go for the win.

I was thinking about those too

Bought my copies just in case lol

I don't think glass cannon is accurate at all, it has card advantage and the ability to execute storm really well. There are also several answers to rule of law in the deck....

@@ComedIanMTGI will go and try out the deck after watching your deck tech. Been trying to find a way to play storm in this singleton environment. Thanks Ian.

Bolt+Timetwister

@@ComedIanMTG Ah got it!

the card is dead on its own so we don't need it

Because outside of that the card is dead

Because what are you drawing with?

the issue I've found with Dramatic Reversal is that, yes, it goes infinite, but then you end up having to play outlets for that mana. the best of these I've found is Expansion // Explosion, which... well, idk if I really want to be playing that card 😆

just to add... to be fair, it's possible Expansion // Explosion is the t and turns out to be amazing so I'm open to the idea but I'll let someone else test it before I start incorporating it into my lists 😆

I believe you can use an untap draw card to draw your deck and can then use dramatic reversal after for infinite mana that you can put into an X spell for a clean win instead of something like Gutshot

@@harryturner9201 In the situation you're describing, infinite mana isn't necessary. The cerulean wisps or whatever that draws your deck is already a win. You will have enough 0/1/2 cmc mana rocks and rituals after drawing your deck to cast twisted fealty so the dramatic reversal is irrelevant. The only reason you'd run it is if the deck has a specific secondary combo package that requires it.

Here's to hoping

Tbh I think despite sharing colors you have to evaluate them as wildly different decks

I mean it’s one you can start taking cEDH. A lot of tournaments allow proxies in my area. With 10 to 20 proxy limit in my area I could easily tune Stella to be highly competitive.

This is discussed in the video. Helps to watch

Have I ever covered one of their tournaments?

Dude having to look through multiple tournaments videos to find mono colored decks isn’t really covering via decktech. Cedh pretty much is just copy pasta

@ComedIanMTG I figured you'd probably won one or two lol 😆 I dunno it's just like a weird week and so many cEDH channels that usually cover tournament stuff haven't posted anything And it's mono red ! Woooot

Exactly!